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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-455628</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GOOD!!! Comcast SUCKS!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOOD!!! Comcast SUCKS!</p>
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		<title>By: OTiS</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And for those of you who ASS U ME I was referring to just them take a moment and read the other 140 post on this site. 

I don&#039;t care if a single person on here condones the actions. What was done was illegal. 

Not much to discuss there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those of you who ASS U ME I was referring to just them take a moment and read the other 140 post on this site. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if a single person on here condones the actions. What was done was illegal. </p>
<p>Not much to discuss there.</p>
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		<title>By: Comcast Random Rep</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Comcast Random Rep]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OH and for the record....
I never once in all the years working in Tech Support...I have NEVER had a SINGLE person call in saying they were having trouble Seeding...never had ANYONE call in saying Comcast is &quot;throttling&quot; or &quot;Sandvining&quot; their service...never had anyone complain about that kind of problem....why is that?  How come if everyone believes this to be a problem with Comcast...that it&#039;s Comcast doing this...How come nobody calls in to complain about it?  Why&#039;s that?  Hmmmm......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH and for the record&#8230;.<br />
I never once in all the years working in Tech Support&#8230;I have NEVER had a SINGLE person call in saying they were having trouble Seeding&#8230;never had ANYONE call in saying Comcast is &#8220;throttling&#8221; or &#8220;Sandvining&#8221; their service&#8230;never had anyone complain about that kind of problem&#8230;.why is that?  How come if everyone believes this to be a problem with Comcast&#8230;that it&#8217;s Comcast doing this&#8230;How come nobody calls in to complain about it?  Why&#8217;s that?  Hmmmm&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Comcast Random Rep</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Comcast Random Rep]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The whole Concept of ALL my posts, if you were paying attention, from day 1, from the very first post... the whole reason for posting anything on here...was to get people to realize that Comcast is NOT the reason for every single problem that anyone encounters with their internet...I NEVER said Comcast was God, or that they are completely flawless..NEVER.  I simply stated in a series of posts, that most of these stupid ass Comcast customers on here posting &quot;Comcast Sucks!&quot; really have NO IDEA what the problem is...they just simply blame Comcast. If there ISP was AT&amp;T or DirectTV or whoever...every problem those same people have, they would blame them.  If you only knew...95% of the calls we get EVERYDAY (which on average is about 2000+ per day), are issues with either customer owned Routers (which some of us reps know how to fix anyway...we dont have to fix that for you but we do), or problems with their Computers.  9 times out of 10, there is NO problem with the Internet Service they we provide.  I&#039;ve had customers call me and say &quot;Something is wrong with my Internet...My screen wont turn on&quot;.. Plug their damn screen in and everything is peachy.  

That was the whole reason I started posting on here.  People&#039;s misplaced anger. It&#039;s my job to figure out what is wrong with people&#039;s internet...been doing that everyday for a very long time...I&#039;ve seen it all.  Now granted..in some areas...Comcast is in need of some serious upgrades... but unless you are in South Florida, thats not your area.  And in some areas, they really need to hire better Repair Technicians... cuz the Techs suck in most areas... so see, im not saying that Comcast doesn&#039;t have problems...all I&#039;ve basically been saying is look at your situation, use some common sense before you just blame it all on Comcast.

Oh and if you have to call Tech Support for help....when we troubleshoot your situation and then tell you what is wrong...don&#039;t tell us we are wrong...you called US for help...chances are that its not the FIRST time we&#039;ve seen a problem like yours.  Hell 99% of the time...you can tell me what your computer screen says and I can tell you what the problem is and how to fix it...because I&#039;ve fixed it before.  So keep in mind...when you call US for help....we&#039;re here to help YOU....not the other way around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole Concept of ALL my posts, if you were paying attention, from day 1, from the very first post&#8230; the whole reason for posting anything on here&#8230;was to get people to realize that Comcast is NOT the reason for every single problem that anyone encounters with their internet&#8230;I NEVER said Comcast was God, or that they are completely flawless..NEVER.  I simply stated in a series of posts, that most of these stupid ass Comcast customers on here posting &#8220;Comcast Sucks!&#8221; really have NO IDEA what the problem is&#8230;they just simply blame Comcast. If there ISP was AT&amp;T or DirectTV or whoever&#8230;every problem those same people have, they would blame them.  If you only knew&#8230;95% of the calls we get EVERYDAY (which on average is about 2000+ per day), are issues with either customer owned Routers (which some of us reps know how to fix anyway&#8230;we dont have to fix that for you but we do), or problems with their Computers.  9 times out of 10, there is NO problem with the Internet Service they we provide.  I&#8217;ve had customers call me and say &#8220;Something is wrong with my Internet&#8230;My screen wont turn on&#8221;.. Plug their damn screen in and everything is peachy.  </p>
<p>That was the whole reason I started posting on here.  People&#8217;s misplaced anger. It&#8217;s my job to figure out what is wrong with people&#8217;s internet&#8230;been doing that everyday for a very long time&#8230;I&#8217;ve seen it all.  Now granted..in some areas&#8230;Comcast is in need of some serious upgrades&#8230; but unless you are in South Florida, thats not your area.  And in some areas, they really need to hire better Repair Technicians&#8230; cuz the Techs suck in most areas&#8230; so see, im not saying that Comcast doesn&#8217;t have problems&#8230;all I&#8217;ve basically been saying is look at your situation, use some common sense before you just blame it all on Comcast.</p>
<p>Oh and if you have to call Tech Support for help&#8230;.when we troubleshoot your situation and then tell you what is wrong&#8230;don&#8217;t tell us we are wrong&#8230;you called US for help&#8230;chances are that its not the FIRST time we&#8217;ve seen a problem like yours.  Hell 99% of the time&#8230;you can tell me what your computer screen says and I can tell you what the problem is and how to fix it&#8230;because I&#8217;ve fixed it before.  So keep in mind&#8230;when you call US for help&#8230;.we&#8217;re here to help YOU&#8230;.not the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: Steal is such a harsh word</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steal is such a harsh word]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sharing is good. Ever heard the term?
You know there is a video called &#039;I wouldn&#039;t steal&#039; right that defines sharing as sharing, not stealing, like what the MPAA and RIAA want you to think, and darn, its even from a sizable political party in the EU! Guess it&#039;s not credible, and that we&#039;re all committing crimes when SHARING. (sarcasm)

http://www.savetheinternet.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharing is good. Ever heard the term?<br />
You know there is a video called &#8216;I wouldn&#8217;t steal&#8217; right that defines sharing as sharing, not stealing, like what the MPAA and RIAA want you to think, and darn, its even from a sizable political party in the EU! Guess it&#8217;s not credible, and that we&#8217;re all committing crimes when SHARING. (sarcasm)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.savetheinternet.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.savetheinternet.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: As for ketchup</title>
		<link>/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-418190</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[As for ketchup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its more like they forget your entire order.

Also, I know that the hacking wasn&#039;t related to hating comcast (which I will say AGAIN, cause certain people don&#039;t read the comments!). Emphasis again on me arguing at the comcast rep about them not doing evil, not condoning idiot hackers who have nothing better to do and aren&#039;t even doing it for a cause, and since they are doing it, don&#039;t even know how to cover their tracks.

http://www.savetheinternet.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its more like they forget your entire order.</p>
<p>Also, I know that the hacking wasn&#8217;t related to hating comcast (which I will say AGAIN, cause certain people don&#8217;t read the comments!). Emphasis again on me arguing at the comcast rep about them not doing evil, not condoning idiot hackers who have nothing better to do and aren&#8217;t even doing it for a cause, and since they are doing it, don&#8217;t even know how to cover their tracks.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.savetheinternet.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.savetheinternet.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: I wasn't condoning their action</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I wasn't condoning their action]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;d read my posts. I was arguing at the Comcast Rep that his/her claim about Comcast not doing evil was bogus.

I&#039;m actually quite dismayed at it, I thought we&#039;d be better than this (I would say that at least (and I actually oppose hacking, just saying that it would have been better if), if someone hacked, they&#039;d hack their news and maybe insert a message with our plea/argument with a optional click here to learn more about our cause button, while not denying them of any services, that&#039;s all, wouldn&#039;t really harm anyone, or deny anything)
http://www.savetheinternet.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;d read my posts. I was arguing at the Comcast Rep that his/her claim about Comcast not doing evil was bogus.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually quite dismayed at it, I thought we&#8217;d be better than this (I would say that at least (and I actually oppose hacking, just saying that it would have been better if), if someone hacked, they&#8217;d hack their news and maybe insert a message with our plea/argument with a optional click here to learn more about our cause button, while not denying them of any services, that&#8217;s all, wouldn&#8217;t really harm anyone, or deny anything)<br />
<a href="http://www.savetheinternet.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.savetheinternet.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: OTiS</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OTiS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hows this for a little common sense. I hear all these idiots saying &quot;they warned them first&quot; and since comcast blew them off the took that to mean they should break the law.

So lets change the model a little bit. You walk by your neighbors house and see his window is open. You call and tell him about it and he tells you to screw off. So the next day you walk by and the window is open again. You figure the guys was a jerk to you and you need to teach him a lesson. So you climb through his window and hang out in his house for a while. Even if you did nothing to the house, the simple fact that you broke the law in spite of someone still means you broke the law. Why is it that people here are trying to make this issue about Comcast? Ok, so they piss people off. Ok, so they don&#039;t have the best customer service. just because McDonald&#039;s forgets your ketchup it doesn&#039;t give you the right to damage or steal from them. 

Anyone who condones the actions of these two idiots really has no place to speak about morals when it comes to how Comcast conducts business. if you pirate or steal software etc. You also have no real place to speak about the morals of Comcast.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hows this for a little common sense. I hear all these idiots saying &#8220;they warned them first&#8221; and since comcast blew them off the took that to mean they should break the law.</p>
<p>So lets change the model a little bit. You walk by your neighbors house and see his window is open. You call and tell him about it and he tells you to screw off. So the next day you walk by and the window is open again. You figure the guys was a jerk to you and you need to teach him a lesson. So you climb through his window and hang out in his house for a while. Even if you did nothing to the house, the simple fact that you broke the law in spite of someone still means you broke the law. Why is it that people here are trying to make this issue about Comcast? Ok, so they piss people off. Ok, so they don&#8217;t have the best customer service. just because McDonald&#8217;s forgets your ketchup it doesn&#8217;t give you the right to damage or steal from them. </p>
<p>Anyone who condones the actions of these two idiots really has no place to speak about morals when it comes to how Comcast conducts business. if you pirate or steal software etc. You also have no real place to speak about the morals of Comcast.</p>
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		<title>By: Comcast Hacked in BitTorrent Throttling Payback?&#160;at IDTorrent Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Really.....good to see a concession</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Really.....good to see a concession]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What, may I ask, was with the &quot;if the speed&#039;s horribly slow, its the customer&#039;s end&#039;s fault&quot; attitude? Isn&#039;t that strongly implying that the reason we get &quot;random drops&quot; from &quot;sandvining&quot; is some reason other than comcast&#039;s doing. Sure, I concede there&#039;s probably a good amount of users who don&#039;t know why having a router slows down their speed if they can&#039;t port forward or do something else right, and don&#039;t know the difference between uploading and downloading, but there is a significant amount of users who are not like that, who actually understand the difference, who don&#039;t use a router, and who, if the ISP isn&#039;t sending forged RST or doing other deceitful things, shouldn&#039;t have ANY connection issues at all.

Worst customer service attitude I&#039;ve ever heard of.

As for &quot;good reason&quot;:
If it was limited to 200kb/s, I wouldn&#039;t care.
If it was limited to 100kb/s I probably still wouldn&#039;t care. Hey, I can only upload at 300kb/s to media fire, so no big to me.
But if its completely blocked/forged RST packets that&#039;s being used....

I fail to see the logic behind this. I mean, I can either upload at 300kb/s to media fire and use MORE bandwidth, or upload at 75kb/s and use LESS...........anyone with basic math skills can tell you that the 75kb/s is less....and yet, instead of implementing a cap (at say 75, although I&#039;d like it if it were at 100, cause sometimes I want to seed more than one at a time) or even allowing us to upload, your company is completely blocking the protocol, I seem to remember before the sandvining, there was a cap anyway, so why suddenly block it completely?

http://www.savetheinternet.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, may I ask, was with the &#8220;if the speed&#8217;s horribly slow, its the customer&#8217;s end&#8217;s fault&#8221; attitude? Isn&#8217;t that strongly implying that the reason we get &#8220;random drops&#8221; from &#8220;sandvining&#8221; is some reason other than comcast&#8217;s doing. Sure, I concede there&#8217;s probably a good amount of users who don&#8217;t know why having a router slows down their speed if they can&#8217;t port forward or do something else right, and don&#8217;t know the difference between uploading and downloading, but there is a significant amount of users who are not like that, who actually understand the difference, who don&#8217;t use a router, and who, if the ISP isn&#8217;t sending forged RST or doing other deceitful things, shouldn&#8217;t have ANY connection issues at all.</p>
<p>Worst customer service attitude I&#8217;ve ever heard of.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;good reason&#8221;:<br />
If it was limited to 200kb/s, I wouldn&#8217;t care.<br />
If it was limited to 100kb/s I probably still wouldn&#8217;t care. Hey, I can only upload at 300kb/s to media fire, so no big to me.<br />
But if its completely blocked/forged RST packets that&#8217;s being used&#8230;.</p>
<p>I fail to see the logic behind this. I mean, I can either upload at 300kb/s to media fire and use MORE bandwidth, or upload at 75kb/s and use LESS&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..anyone with basic math skills can tell you that the 75kb/s is less&#8230;.and yet, instead of implementing a cap (at say 75, although I&#8217;d like it if it were at 100, cause sometimes I want to seed more than one at a time) or even allowing us to upload, your company is completely blocking the protocol, I seem to remember before the sandvining, there was a cap anyway, so why suddenly block it completely?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.savetheinternet.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.savetheinternet.com/</a></p>
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