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		<title>By: Do copyright holders profit off of their lawsuits? &#171; Matt B</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Do copyright holders profit off of their lawsuits? &#171; Matt B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 23:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 2010. Only recently have courts started to rule in favor of the defendants (the John/Jane Does) when they realized that privately owned IP addresses do not necessarily represent the responsible pa.... For instance if I downloaded something illegally from my father’s Wi-Fi, he would be sent the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2010. Only recently have courts started to rule in favor of the defendants (the John/Jane Does) when they realized that privately owned IP addresses do not necessarily represent the responsible pa&#8230;. For instance if I downloaded something illegally from my father’s Wi-Fi, he would be sent the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What happens to said officers when found out? contempt of court? Blackmail charges?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens to said officers when found out? contempt of court? Blackmail charges?</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bobmail? wow Anon how many aliases do you have on here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bobmail? wow Anon how many aliases do you have on here?</p>
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		<title>By: semwem</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[semwem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pelham123</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pelham123]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Nobody is stealing anything.   If you leave your loaded gun on your table in a room full of people you don&#039;t know, and someone gets shot&quot; then the shooter stole your gun.


I never thought you of all people would argue that taking something that doesn&#039;t belong to you isn&#039;t theft. 



Taking something that is just lying around will get your arrested in NYC. it&#039;s a common sting.


As opposed to making your own copy of somebody&#039;s else property with their permission, which is such a serious problem, we should punish the innocent along with the guilty, just to be sure nobody gets away with something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nobody is stealing anything.   If you leave your loaded gun on your table in a room full of people you don&#8217;t know, and someone gets shot&#8221; then the shooter stole your gun.</p>
<p>I never thought you of all people would argue that taking something that doesn&#8217;t belong to you isn&#8217;t theft. </p>
<p>Taking something that is just lying around will get your arrested in NYC. it&#8217;s a common sting.</p>
<p>As opposed to making your own copy of somebody&#8217;s else property with their permission, which is such a serious problem, we should punish the innocent along with the guilty, just to be sure nobody gets away with something.</p>
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		<title>By: Pelham123</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pelham123]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The suggestion by the court is that the ISPs have no idea who they are providing service to, which suggests that any and all usage based billing is a failure.&quot;

it&#039;s almost beautiful how perfectly wrong you got this.

You don&#039;t need to know who somebody is to bill their account for usage. In fact, you don&#039;t want to know. You don&#039;t verify that usage was done by the account holder. You just charge based on the account. That&#039;s fine for a private contract, just not for the law.

&quot;What the court ruling suggests is that the subscriber is not responsible for how the service is used, which is against the ToS for almost every ISP. &quot;

So what? ToS are not laws. A &quot;no shirt no service&quot; sign does not make it illegal to be shirtless. Failure to arrest someone for shirtlessness does not make the &quot;no shirt&quot; sign invalid, and failure to fine someone for infringement does not invalidate or even address ToS.

As always, I&#039;m impressed by the link between being worried about piracy and being foggy in general.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The suggestion by the court is that the ISPs have no idea who they are providing service to, which suggests that any and all usage based billing is a failure.&#8221;</p>
<p>it&#8217;s almost beautiful how perfectly wrong you got this.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to know who somebody is to bill their account for usage. In fact, you don&#8217;t want to know. You don&#8217;t verify that usage was done by the account holder. You just charge based on the account. That&#8217;s fine for a private contract, just not for the law.</p>
<p>&#8220;What the court ruling suggests is that the subscriber is not responsible for how the service is used, which is against the ToS for almost every ISP. &#8221;</p>
<p>So what? ToS are not laws. A &#8220;no shirt no service&#8221; sign does not make it illegal to be shirtless. Failure to arrest someone for shirtlessness does not make the &#8220;no shirt&#8221; sign invalid, and failure to fine someone for infringement does not invalidate or even address ToS.</p>
<p>As always, I&#8217;m impressed by the link between being worried about piracy and being foggy in general.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; they go after the lowest hanging fruit.&quot;

To be more specific, they are making up fruit. They are inventing fake crimes to punish the powerless, and even punishing powerless people who haven&#039;t committed those fake crimes, rather than addressing the powerful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; they go after the lowest hanging fruit.&#8221;</p>
<p>To be more specific, they are making up fruit. They are inventing fake crimes to punish the powerless, and even punishing powerless people who haven&#8217;t committed those fake crimes, rather than addressing the powerful.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobmail</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobmail]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Actually, the UK courts wisely realized that they cannot and should not 
create a black hole by which everyone can slag off responsibility for 
their actions.  They understood that the buck has to stop somewhere&quot;

Let me clarify. What I meant to say is that it&#039;s better to prosecute an innocent person than nobody at all. 

I also take this attitude with regard to children. I give them all time outs all the time regardless of whether they&#039;ve done anything wrong. That way, I know none of them have gotten away with anything.

Of course, some might argue that anything that punishes the innocent has no value as a deterrent, because you can&#039;t avoid the punishment by complying. To that I say: Derp.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actually, the UK courts wisely realized that they cannot and should not<br />
create a black hole by which everyone can slag off responsibility for<br />
their actions.  They understood that the buck has to stop somewhere&#8221;</p>
<p>Let me clarify. What I meant to say is that it&#8217;s better to prosecute an innocent person than nobody at all. </p>
<p>I also take this attitude with regard to children. I give them all time outs all the time regardless of whether they&#8217;ve done anything wrong. That way, I know none of them have gotten away with anything.</p>
<p>Of course, some might argue that anything that punishes the innocent has no value as a deterrent, because you can&#8217;t avoid the punishment by complying. To that I say: Derp.</p>
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		<title>By: Scary_Devil_Monastery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scary_Devil_Monastery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;You cannot seriously be so fucking stupid that you cannot understand that, can you?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;


Either he doesn&#039;t understand it in which case he is indeed so fucking stupid. See his previous commentary - any of it, more or less.


Or he does, and doesn&#039;t care in which case he&#039;s just a dishonest bastard refusing to openly admit he doesn&#039;t give a rat&#039;s ass how many innocent get accused as long as filesharers get caught.


By definition the latter is called a &quot;fascist&quot;. &quot;Baghdad Bob&quot;-Anon admitted to the latter and has to be acknowledged the balls for that.


Bobmail is either clueless - willfully so - or lacks even the balls shown by Anon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;You cannot seriously be so fucking stupid that you cannot understand that, can you?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Either he doesn&#8217;t understand it in which case he is indeed so fucking stupid. See his previous commentary &#8211; any of it, more or less.</p>
<p>Or he does, and doesn&#8217;t care in which case he&#8217;s just a dishonest bastard refusing to openly admit he doesn&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s ass how many innocent get accused as long as filesharers get caught.</p>
<p>By definition the latter is called a &#8220;fascist&#8221;. &#8220;Baghdad Bob&#8221;-Anon admitted to the latter and has to be acknowledged the balls for that.</p>
<p>Bobmail is either clueless &#8211; willfully so &#8211; or lacks even the balls shown by Anon.</p>
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		<title>By: Scary_Devil_Monastery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scary_Devil_Monastery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;facts&quot;?


This coming from someone who&#039;s been lying through his teeth about what the law says, can&#039;t grasp that law supercedes a ToS, doesn&#039;t appear to know what a &quot;legal precedent&quot; is, how &quot;messenger immunity&quot; is understood to function, and can not understand the concept of &quot;burden of proof&quot;?


We&#039;d love to see you place facts on the table, bobmail. regale us with some...for once.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;facts&#8221;?</p>
<p>This coming from someone who&#8217;s been lying through his teeth about what the law says, can&#8217;t grasp that law supercedes a ToS, doesn&#8217;t appear to know what a &#8220;legal precedent&#8221; is, how &#8220;messenger immunity&#8221; is understood to function, and can not understand the concept of &#8220;burden of proof&#8221;?</p>
<p>We&#8217;d love to see you place facts on the table, bobmail. regale us with some&#8230;for once.</p>
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