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	<title>Comments on: Demonoid Blocks Taiwan and China After DoS Attack</title>
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		<title>By: sad lauwai</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live here in Taiwan and I like the triad theory as a jumping off point, but it&#039;s not that simple. The real problem here is we have super fast connections here in Taiwan compared to most of the world. Most of the locals I know don&#039;t run virus programs or practice safe computing. Even in the fleet of 10 boxes I have moderate control over the only ones clean are the few I maintain, and use an English OS. I harangue my wife and employees to update the virus defs and not click on attachments, but I let my guard down for a few weeks... and boom another infestation that takes hours to sort out. I sadly have to agree that maybe the Taiwanese and Chinese have more than their share of botnets. My guess is that these botnets are created by the chinese communists to use in cyberwarfare against Taiwan and others. The theory they could be leasing them to RIAA contractors and sympathisers is a very good possibility. These botnets may thus be run by the Triads, but I doubt they are actually trying to protect their pirate DVD sales. I don&#039;t go out looking for them, but I never saw many fake DVD&#039;s in my decade in Taiwan, so I doubt these were a big profit center (but I could be wrong). If there is any industry it would NEED access to Demonoid to get high quality source files with which they would hardcode the chinese subtitles or dubs to. Yet Thailand and Indonesia and Vietnam are overflowing with fake DVD&#039;s...because they have poor internet connectivity. 

So sadly, yes it has to be a Chinese (whatever flavour you want of them) thing, as no one seems to be blocking/complaining about the Japanese or the Koreans who have 100MB connections instead of Taiwan&#039;s average 8MB connections. I guess I have to agree that the Chinese/Taiwanese folk here are not the best computer users, sorry.

But all that said I miss Demonoid and hope that they can find some workaround for this. I&#039;ve been a pirating scoundrel since Napster beta 4. I imagine my usage nears a terabyte every few months. I&#039;ve seen so many great sites disappear, but this is hard to take just being banned like this. I haven&#039;t heard of eztv, or any other popular site banning us. With the loss of mininova, TPB seemingly less effective than it once was, Demonoid has a depth for rare stuff that is pretty hard to replicate. Folks above are dissing it but it is one of the best. I&#039;ve been a demonoid member since around 2005, all of those years here in Taiwan, and I was overjoyed when they came back online after the year shutdown... and they still had my login and ratio intact! Because of this I am certain they are working on some ways to get legit users a way to access them. But I&#039;m sad to say it&#039;ll be a lot harder to get Chinese people to maintain their computers. I mean c&#039;mon....they put poison in their own peoples milk and toothpaste, and lead in their kid&#039;s toys to make a few bucks.SPOP]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live here in Taiwan and I like the triad theory as a jumping off point, but it&#8217;s not that simple. The real problem here is we have super fast connections here in Taiwan compared to most of the world. Most of the locals I know don&#8217;t run virus programs or practice safe computing. Even in the fleet of 10 boxes I have moderate control over the only ones clean are the few I maintain, and use an English OS. I harangue my wife and employees to update the virus defs and not click on attachments, but I let my guard down for a few weeks&#8230; and boom another infestation that takes hours to sort out. I sadly have to agree that maybe the Taiwanese and Chinese have more than their share of botnets. My guess is that these botnets are created by the chinese communists to use in cyberwarfare against Taiwan and others. The theory they could be leasing them to RIAA contractors and sympathisers is a very good possibility. These botnets may thus be run by the Triads, but I doubt they are actually trying to protect their pirate DVD sales. I don&#8217;t go out looking for them, but I never saw many fake DVD&#8217;s in my decade in Taiwan, so I doubt these were a big profit center (but I could be wrong). If there is any industry it would NEED access to Demonoid to get high quality source files with which they would hardcode the chinese subtitles or dubs to. Yet Thailand and Indonesia and Vietnam are overflowing with fake DVD&#8217;s&#8230;because they have poor internet connectivity. </p>
<p>So sadly, yes it has to be a Chinese (whatever flavour you want of them) thing, as no one seems to be blocking/complaining about the Japanese or the Koreans who have 100MB connections instead of Taiwan&#8217;s average 8MB connections. I guess I have to agree that the Chinese/Taiwanese folk here are not the best computer users, sorry.</p>
<p>But all that said I miss Demonoid and hope that they can find some workaround for this. I&#8217;ve been a pirating scoundrel since Napster beta 4. I imagine my usage nears a terabyte every few months. I&#8217;ve seen so many great sites disappear, but this is hard to take just being banned like this. I haven&#8217;t heard of eztv, or any other popular site banning us. With the loss of mininova, TPB seemingly less effective than it once was, Demonoid has a depth for rare stuff that is pretty hard to replicate. Folks above are dissing it but it is one of the best. I&#8217;ve been a demonoid member since around 2005, all of those years here in Taiwan, and I was overjoyed when they came back online after the year shutdown&#8230; and they still had my login and ratio intact! Because of this I am certain they are working on some ways to get legit users a way to access them. But I&#8217;m sad to say it&#8217;ll be a lot harder to get Chinese people to maintain their computers. I mean c&#8217;mon&#8230;.they put poison in their own peoples milk and toothpaste, and lead in their kid&#8217;s toys to make a few bucks.SPOP</p>
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		<title>By: Quick &#38; Dirty (19) [décharge] &#171; Journal du Hack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quick &#38; Dirty (19) [décharge] &#171; Journal du Hack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] [TorrentFreak] Un Utilisateur Japonais de BitTorrent évite les virus, mais pas la polie [TorrentFreak] La Justice des Pays Bas doit-elle censurer &#8220;The Pirate Bay&#8221;? [TorrentFreak] Après une attaque DDoS, Demonoid bloque la Chine et Taiwan [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] [TorrentFreak] Un Utilisateur Japonais de BitTorrent évite les virus, mais pas la polie [TorrentFreak] La Justice des Pays Bas doit-elle censurer &#8220;The Pirate Bay&#8221;? [TorrentFreak] Après une attaque DDoS, Demonoid bloque la Chine et Taiwan [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Luo</title>
		<link>/demonoid-blocks-taiwan-and-china-after-dos-attack-100715/#comment-687175</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You see guys, that is not about racism nor Chinese, it&#039;s all about the money, money, and money. A lot of money for the greedy one so that they can married and divorce for many times, buy big houses &amp; limousines, put air conditioner on their dog houses, drugging, and fucking for 24-hours. Our world is sick...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see guys, that is not about racism nor Chinese, it&#8217;s all about the money, money, and money. A lot of money for the greedy one so that they can married and divorce for many times, buy big houses &amp; limousines, put air conditioner on their dog houses, drugging, and fucking for 24-hours. Our world is sick&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: oi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[oi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[demonoid still blocks germany....since the beginning of 2010.

No infos, no change, no nothing.

This sucks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>demonoid still blocks germany&#8230;.since the beginning of 2010.</p>
<p>No infos, no change, no nothing.</p>
<p>This sucks!</p>
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		<title>By: Luo</title>
		<link>/demonoid-blocks-taiwan-and-china-after-dos-attack-100715/#comment-686714</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m living in Taiwan &amp; I hope they (Demonoid) will open the door again for us sometimes after they make it  clear who is the real culprit of their problems. Do not blame some people&#039;s act on the whole country&#039;s people (I suspect it is the gov here that doing that attack, under pressure from, you guess, US gov-back Record Company. Western films &amp; songs are more popular here than the local one. By doing this (the attack), everybody are the winner except for the people that living there....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m living in Taiwan &amp; I hope they (Demonoid) will open the door again for us sometimes after they make it  clear who is the real culprit of their problems. Do not blame some people&#8217;s act on the whole country&#8217;s people (I suspect it is the gov here that doing that attack, under pressure from, you guess, US gov-back Record Company. Western films &amp; songs are more popular here than the local one. By doing this (the attack), everybody are the winner except for the people that living there&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: oldcoconut</title>
		<link>/demonoid-blocks-taiwan-and-china-after-dos-attack-100715/#comment-686339</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 04:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[frustrated since I&#039;m in Taiwan....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>frustrated since I&#8217;m in Taiwan&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: The Haggard</title>
		<link>/demonoid-blocks-taiwan-and-china-after-dos-attack-100715/#comment-685748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Haggard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 05:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live in Taiwan... I have given gifts to Demonoid to maintain their work.  I am angry over being so blocked without warning, without option, and without regard.  There are MANY expats here that depend on Demonoid for english language entertainment and this just STINKS.  Even VPN is not getting through the blocking now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Taiwan&#8230; I have given gifts to Demonoid to maintain their work.  I am angry over being so blocked without warning, without option, and without regard.  There are MANY expats here that depend on Demonoid for english language entertainment and this just STINKS.  Even VPN is not getting through the blocking now.</p>
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		<title>By: mack</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 04:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[China and Taiwan have problem the largest per-capita of botnet/infested/trojaned networks too.....

It really is a security problem for their country.  There are so over-populated they can&#039;t keep tabs on everyone.

The majority of my spam is send from Taiwan and China.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China and Taiwan have problem the largest per-capita of botnet/infested/trojaned networks too&#8230;..</p>
<p>It really is a security problem for their country.  There are so over-populated they can&#8217;t keep tabs on everyone.</p>
<p>The majority of my spam is send from Taiwan and China&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>/demonoid-blocks-taiwan-and-china-after-dos-attack-100715/#comment-685605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#83 &quot;What is with all of the Demonoid hate, exactly? (...) I have been a member of many exclusive private trackers and they were extremely overrated for the most part.&quot;

Since Demonoid bans entire countries, often without any justification or explanation (like with Germany), I think that if you&#039;re from one of those arbitrarily blocked countries, you&#039;re absolutely right to reciprocate their contempt with contempt for them. Blocking whole countries is as elitist as it gets, and they richly deserve the bad comments from there they earned this way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#83 &#8220;What is with all of the Demonoid hate, exactly? (&#8230;) I have been a member of many exclusive private trackers and they were extremely overrated for the most part.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since Demonoid bans entire countries, often without any justification or explanation (like with Germany), I think that if you&#8217;re from one of those arbitrarily blocked countries, you&#8217;re absolutely right to reciprocate their contempt with contempt for them. Blocking whole countries is as elitist as it gets, and they richly deserve the bad comments from there they earned this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is with all of the Demonoid hate, exactly? I get everything that I want from Demonoid at decent speeds. I occasionally find malware in an upload, but nothing like you&#039;d find on TPB. The community successfully identifies most malware and has it removed. Hint: WinRAR and Windows cracks are favorite malware delivery systems.

I have been a member of many exclusive private trackers and they were extremely overrated for the most part. Some of them were fairly close to scams, selling upload credit and banning many perfectly decent users for not being able to seed. Enforcing a ratio of one sounds reasonable, until you realize that over half of users have high speed seedboxes. 

Even the legitimate private trackers are unnecessarily elitist when it come to client software and upload privileges. Honestly, there have only been a few clients that ever really needed to be banned. Banning every client except uTorrent and Azureus is just stupid, especially considering how many modded Azureus clients there were. The only three bad clients still around are BitComet (old versions), BitLord (all versions), and BitThief. There was never anything wrong with BitTyrant, but there would have been no reason to use it on a private tracker.

Private trackers are not any safer from government/corporate snoops either. As a matter of fact, their higher position in the warez chain makes them more attractive. If you think you can keep infiltrators out, you&#039;re an idiot. The typically small number of uploaders are easily targeted. Even your ultra-secret trackers that you think no one knows about are well known to government agencies. I won&#039;t mention any names here out of courtesy, but you know who you are.

This is not the hateful rant of a &quot;n00b&quot; against private trackers. I was sharing warez long before BitTorrent became the next big thing. I have never failed to seed any clean torrent to a ratio of five or greater no matter how long it took. I have never used unfair or subpar clients. Essentially, I am the ideal BitTorrent user and I hate elitist private trackers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is with all of the Demonoid hate, exactly? I get everything that I want from Demonoid at decent speeds. I occasionally find malware in an upload, but nothing like you&#8217;d find on TPB. The community successfully identifies most malware and has it removed. Hint: WinRAR and Windows cracks are favorite malware delivery systems.</p>
<p>I have been a member of many exclusive private trackers and they were extremely overrated for the most part. Some of them were fairly close to scams, selling upload credit and banning many perfectly decent users for not being able to seed. Enforcing a ratio of one sounds reasonable, until you realize that over half of users have high speed seedboxes. </p>
<p>Even the legitimate private trackers are unnecessarily elitist when it come to client software and upload privileges. Honestly, there have only been a few clients that ever really needed to be banned. Banning every client except uTorrent and Azureus is just stupid, especially considering how many modded Azureus clients there were. The only three bad clients still around are BitComet (old versions), BitLord (all versions), and BitThief. There was never anything wrong with BitTyrant, but there would have been no reason to use it on a private tracker.</p>
<p>Private trackers are not any safer from government/corporate snoops either. As a matter of fact, their higher position in the warez chain makes them more attractive. If you think you can keep infiltrators out, you&#8217;re an idiot. The typically small number of uploaders are easily targeted. Even your ultra-secret trackers that you think no one knows about are well known to government agencies. I won&#8217;t mention any names here out of courtesy, but you know who you are.</p>
<p>This is not the hateful rant of a &#8220;n00b&#8221; against private trackers. I was sharing warez long before BitTorrent became the next big thing. I have never failed to seed any clean torrent to a ratio of five or greater no matter how long it took. I have never used unfair or subpar clients. Essentially, I am the ideal BitTorrent user and I hate elitist private trackers.</p>
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