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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2013 01:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a trial he will get access to all the evidence.  He has to appear in a US court with his lawyers to get access to all of the evidence.  He is presently a fugitive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a trial he will get access to all the evidence.  He has to appear in a US court with his lawyers to get access to all of the evidence.  He is presently a fugitive.</p>
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		<title>By: icec0ld</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[icec0ld]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2013 20:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What convinces you Kim Dotcom is not of good character? A few lying scheming corporations that had him shutdown?


Running a successful internet business is no crime.


I consider Kims push to build a cable directly to the US far more important than roads but I digress, we are or are not denying/granting anything based on his contributions to NZs well being.


Kim has no criminal record as per the &quot;clean slate&quot; granted by Germany.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What convinces you Kim Dotcom is not of good character? A few lying scheming corporations that had him shutdown?</p>
<p>Running a successful internet business is no crime.</p>
<p>I consider Kims push to build a cable directly to the US far more important than roads but I digress, we are or are not denying/granting anything based on his contributions to NZs well being.</p>
<p>Kim has no criminal record as per the &#8220;clean slate&#8221; granted by Germany.</p>
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		<title>By: Fredrika</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fredrika]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2013 15:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; &lt;i&gt;&quot;Not strictly true.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

On the contrary, my quote is indeed true, exactly as it was written.

&gt; &lt;i&gt;&quot;Individuals can and do breach or violate human rights.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

No, that&#039;s still impossible.

&gt; &lt;i&gt;&quot;From &quot;EHRC understanding Human rights&quot; the following is clear about this..&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Let&#039;s start by quoting the opening of that passage:

&gt; &lt;i&gt;&quot;Remember, the Act regulates the relationship between individuals and the state..&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

You left that rather relevant part out.

&gt; &lt;i&gt;&quot;But public authorities can use existing laws to ensure that one individual doesn’t &lt;b&gt;abuse&lt;/b&gt; the &lt;b&gt;rights&lt;/b&gt; of another individual.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

A claim that doesn&#039;t go against my claim regarding violation or breaches of &lt;b&gt;human rights&lt;/b&gt;. Your quote either talks about &lt;i&gt;rights&lt;/i&gt; described in national law which is something different than &lt;i&gt;human rights&lt;/i&gt;, or it&#039;s a not so thought through statement in the first place, which i must agree it isn&#039;t, because it did get you confused..

&gt; &lt;i&gt;&quot;If a woman was violently abused by her partner, she couldn’t sue him for breaching her rights.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Correct, because he hasn&#039;t violated her human rights. It&#039;s impossible for him to do so because he isn&#039;t the state.

&gt; &lt;i&gt;&quot;However, the police would be responsible for protecting her human rights by using other laws to convict him for domestic violence, and if they knowingly failed to offer adequate protection this could be a breach of her human rights.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Correct, the police and all authorities is a part of the state, and when they, the state and it&#039;s branches, doesn&#039;t uphold an individual&#039;s human rights, they can be sued for failing to do so.

Nothing in the example that you misunderstood says that the violent man violated, breached or abused any &lt;b&gt;human right&lt;/b&gt;. The opening passage of that section however quite clearly stated that the human right regulate the relationship between state and individual, and therefore logically only a state can violate them.

And did you notice how they shifted between using the term &lt;i&gt;human rights&lt;/i&gt;, and &lt;i&gt;right&lt;/i&gt; alone without the word human in front of it? That alone should have tipped you off.

If there&#039;s anything else that you have misunderstood, please ask for help again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; <i>&#8220;Not strictly true.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>On the contrary, my quote is indeed true, exactly as it was written.</p>
<p>&gt; <i>&#8220;Individuals can and do breach or violate human rights.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>No, that&#8217;s still impossible.</p>
<p>&gt; <i>&#8220;From &#8220;EHRC understanding Human rights&#8221; the following is clear about this..&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s start by quoting the opening of that passage:</p>
<p>&gt; <i>&#8220;Remember, the Act regulates the relationship between individuals and the state..&#8221;</i></p>
<p>You left that rather relevant part out.</p>
<p>&gt; <i>&#8220;But public authorities can use existing laws to ensure that one individual doesn’t <b>abuse</b> the <b>rights</b> of another individual.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>A claim that doesn&#8217;t go against my claim regarding violation or breaches of <b>human rights</b>. Your quote either talks about <i>rights</i> described in national law which is something different than <i>human rights</i>, or it&#8217;s a not so thought through statement in the first place, which i must agree it isn&#8217;t, because it did get you confused..</p>
<p>&gt; <i>&#8220;If a woman was violently abused by her partner, she couldn’t sue him for breaching her rights.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Correct, because he hasn&#8217;t violated her human rights. It&#8217;s impossible for him to do so because he isn&#8217;t the state.</p>
<p>&gt; <i>&#8220;However, the police would be responsible for protecting her human rights by using other laws to convict him for domestic violence, and if they knowingly failed to offer adequate protection this could be a breach of her human rights.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Correct, the police and all authorities is a part of the state, and when they, the state and it&#8217;s branches, doesn&#8217;t uphold an individual&#8217;s human rights, they can be sued for failing to do so.</p>
<p>Nothing in the example that you misunderstood says that the violent man violated, breached or abused any <b>human right</b>. The opening passage of that section however quite clearly stated that the human right regulate the relationship between state and individual, and therefore logically only a state can violate them.</p>
<p>And did you notice how they shifted between using the term <i>human rights</i>, and <i>right</i> alone without the word human in front of it? That alone should have tipped you off.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s anything else that you have misunderstood, please ask for help again.</p>
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		<title>By: echr</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2013 13:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;And the only party that can breach or violate a human right is the state&quot;. 

Not strictly true. Individuals can and do breach or violate human rights. 

From &quot;EHRC understanding Human rights&quot; the following is clear about this &quot;... for example, you can’t sue your neighbour for a breach of human rights.
 But &lt;b&gt;public authorities can use existing laws to ensure that one 
individual doesn’t abuse the rights of another individual&lt;/b&gt;. If a woman 
was violently abused by her partner, she couldn’t sue him for breaching 
her rights. However, the police would be responsible for protecting her 
human rights by using other laws to convict him for domestic violence, 
and if they knowingly failed to offer adequate protection this could be a
 breach of her human rights.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And the only party that can breach or violate a human right is the state&#8221;. </p>
<p>Not strictly true. Individuals can and do breach or violate human rights. </p>
<p>From &#8220;EHRC understanding Human rights&#8221; the following is clear about this &#8220;&#8230; for example, you can’t sue your neighbour for a breach of human rights.<br />
 But <b>public authorities can use existing laws to ensure that one<br />
individual doesn’t abuse the rights of another individual</b>. If a woman<br />
was violently abused by her partner, she couldn’t sue him for breaching<br />
her rights. However, the police would be responsible for protecting her<br />
human rights by using other laws to convict him for domestic violence,<br />
and if they knowingly failed to offer adequate protection this could be a<br />
 breach of her human rights.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tushkanych</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tushkanych]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2013 08:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shows how much you know. Rescinding citizenship by grant takes a governmental approval. Rescinding a PR takes a decision of an officer of the immigration. That&#039;s the big difference.
&quot;Good character&quot; is a very objective requirement. You can hire half the Auckland to write you a a shiny character reference, but if you have a criminal record, you are not of a good character. Period. Look it up at www.dia.govt.nz. Plus, the &quot;clean slate&quot; rule does not apply to crimes committed outside NZ,
One last thing: you are obviously an example of a Kiwi who can be bought with a promise of a better internet connection. Hopefully the rest of us have more integrity than that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shows how much you know. Rescinding citizenship by grant takes a governmental approval. Rescinding a PR takes a decision of an officer of the immigration. That&#8217;s the big difference.<br />
&#8220;Good character&#8221; is a very objective requirement. You can hire half the Auckland to write you a a shiny character reference, but if you have a criminal record, you are not of a good character. Period. Look it up at <a href="http://www.dia.govt.nz" rel="nofollow">http://www.dia.govt.nz</a>. Plus, the &#8220;clean slate&#8221; rule does not apply to crimes committed outside NZ,<br />
One last thing: you are obviously an example of a Kiwi who can be bought with a promise of a better internet connection. Hopefully the rest of us have more integrity than that.</p>
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		<title>By: icec0ld</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[icec0ld]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2013 00:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kim Dotcom happens to be about the only person willing to improve the state of the internet in NZ.


&quot;Good character&quot; is a subjective requirement, one filled by having a number of employers who testify for you and a clean criminal record. I fail to see how he would be denied NZ citizenship if he was inclined to apply at this stage.


Right now he is a permanent resident of NZ. This is virtually the same as a citizenship except you do not hold a NZ passport.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim Dotcom happens to be about the only person willing to improve the state of the internet in NZ.</p>
<p>&#8220;Good character&#8221; is a subjective requirement, one filled by having a number of employers who testify for you and a clean criminal record. I fail to see how he would be denied NZ citizenship if he was inclined to apply at this stage.</p>
<p>Right now he is a permanent resident of NZ. This is virtually the same as a citizenship except you do not hold a NZ passport.</p>
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		<title>By: Derick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 22:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[interview with Kim Dotcom http://scriptfor.me/Internet_Services/kim-dotcom-with-its-new-file-storage-service.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interview with Kim Dotcom <a href="http://scriptfor.me/Internet_Services/kim-dotcom-with-its-new-file-storage-service.html" rel="nofollow">http://scriptfor.me/Internet_Services/kim-dotcom-with-its-new-file-storage-service.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cowardus Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cowardus Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What NZ citizens? The fat slug has not bought NZ citizenship yet. And hopefully never will - because of that nasty &quot;good character&quot; requirement.
New Zealand does not award citizenship to thugs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What NZ citizens? The fat slug has not bought NZ citizenship yet. And hopefully never will &#8211; because of that nasty &#8220;good character&#8221; requirement.<br />
New Zealand does not award citizenship to thugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowardus Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cowardus Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 20:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What discontent? You mean like 30 points lead over Labour despite their &quot;no sales of houses to chinese&quot; discontent?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What discontent? You mean like 30 points lead over Labour despite their &#8220;no sales of houses to chinese&#8221; discontent?</p>
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		<title>By: Tushkanych</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tushkanych]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why, because he is filthy rich and because he plays Robin Hood by giving away some of the stolen stuff for free.
And because, we, Kiwis, love to hate America and will do anything to make you feel uncomfortable. Including giving PR (both as in &quot;Permanent Residence&quot; and &quot;Public Relations&quot;) to a wanted criminal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why, because he is filthy rich and because he plays Robin Hood by giving away some of the stolen stuff for free.<br />
And because, we, Kiwis, love to hate America and will do anything to make you feel uncomfortable. Including giving PR (both as in &#8220;Permanent Residence&#8221; and &#8220;Public Relations&#8221;) to a wanted criminal.</p>
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