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		<title>By: DGB</title>
		<link>/exploring-the-legal-basis-for-the-new-pirate-proxy-war-140809/#comment-1231402</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haha all that for stealing a pen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha all that for stealing a pen</p>
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		<title>By: DGB</title>
		<link>/exploring-the-legal-basis-for-the-new-pirate-proxy-war-140809/#comment-1231401</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think most people would vote to leave the EU at the moment, although it would be a big mistake. The UK is a tiny country and if we leave, America will be out only friend. And America is the friend one likes.  For some reason Brits look down on Europe, but they don&#039;t realise they are well ahead of us in many respects.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most people would vote to leave the EU at the moment, although it would be a big mistake. The UK is a tiny country and if we leave, America will be out only friend. And America is the friend one likes.  For some reason Brits look down on Europe, but they don&#8217;t realise they are well ahead of us in many respects.</p>
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		<title>By: F1Racer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Making the ISPs liable for what their customers do is pure BS.  
But ok, lets follow that logic and make gunshop owners responsible for crimes committed with the guns they sell.  Aren&#039;t they aiding a crime too in a way ?
But they will never happen will it.  Why ?  Because when someone gets shot, big companies don&#039;t purport to lose money. 

At the end of the day it won&#039;t make a difference what FACT do. There will always be ways around things and FACT can&#039;t close all the doors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making the ISPs liable for what their customers do is pure BS.<br />
But ok, lets follow that logic and make gunshop owners responsible for crimes committed with the guns they sell.  Aren&#8217;t they aiding a crime too in a way ?<br />
But they will never happen will it.  Why ?  Because when someone gets shot, big companies don&#8217;t purport to lose money. </p>
<p>At the end of the day it won&#8217;t make a difference what FACT do. There will always be ways around things and FACT can&#8217;t close all the doors.</p>
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		<title>By: Honest, John</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Honest, John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leaving the EU would be a massive mistake. The arts are funded predominantly from EU grants now with some money coming from the National Lottery fund via the Arts Council. Every arts budget coming from central government funding was cut to zero under the current administration.

I&#039;d hate to leave the EU, it&#039;d probably finish off our economy. The EU member states are our largest trading partners and the increase in import/export taxes would stifle the flow of trade into and out of the UK, not to mention the number of UK resident foreign citizens from those member states fulfilling very important jobs would diminish significantly (thanks to increased bureaucracy and paperwork for work visas encouraging those workers to shift to other EU states who would offer an easier entry to their local job markets) resulting in a huge drop in tax revenue to the state which would likely result in the need to increase NI and income tax for every single wage-earner in the UK. It&#039;s not as simple and black and white an issue as the Daily Fail and Britain Furst would like you to believe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leaving the EU would be a massive mistake. The arts are funded predominantly from EU grants now with some money coming from the National Lottery fund via the Arts Council. Every arts budget coming from central government funding was cut to zero under the current administration.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d hate to leave the EU, it&#8217;d probably finish off our economy. The EU member states are our largest trading partners and the increase in import/export taxes would stifle the flow of trade into and out of the UK, not to mention the number of UK resident foreign citizens from those member states fulfilling very important jobs would diminish significantly (thanks to increased bureaucracy and paperwork for work visas encouraging those workers to shift to other EU states who would offer an easier entry to their local job markets) resulting in a huge drop in tax revenue to the state which would likely result in the need to increase NI and income tax for every single wage-earner in the UK. It&#8217;s not as simple and black and white an issue as the Daily Fail and Britain Furst would like you to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: hideandseek4</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2014 13:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi. I like your comment very much. Could you please post some links from specialized legal sources with regards to &quot;The concept of &quot;linking&quot; on the Internet has long debated ... (the Courts) basically conclude that the uploader is at fault along with the hosting site should the site fail to remove it once pointed out it is infringing&quot; Thank you very much in advance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. I like your comment very much. Could you please post some links from specialized legal sources with regards to &#8220;The concept of &#8220;linking&#8221; on the Internet has long debated &#8230; (the Courts) basically conclude that the uploader is at fault along with the hosting site should the site fail to remove it once pointed out it is infringing&#8221; Thank you very much in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: hideandseek4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hideandseek4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Consider the implications of the ruling by the ECJ on SABAM v Netlog (
http://torrentfreak.com/eu-court-bans-anti-piracy-filters-on-hosting-services-120216/ ), especially the following : &quot;The Court noted that the privacy of users is more important than protecting copyright. In addition, it fears that a filter would result in censorship of legitimate content, thereby obstructing freedom of information. [The filter] could potentially undermine freedom of information, since that system might not distinguish adequately between unlawful content and lawful content, with the result that its introduction could lead to the blocking of lawful communications,” the Court writes.

To the ECJ, this is obviously the crux. As long as a website hosts both lawful and unlawful content and as long as a filter, and by extension a blocking of a whole site cannot distinguish between lawful and unlawful content, this blocking &quot;could
potentially undermine freedom of information &quot;.

And when a blocking &quot;could potentially undermine freedom of information&quot;, the same should apply to reverse proxies which allow users to circumvent blocking of sites to which access maybe should not have been blocked in the first place.

Maybe concerned website operators should try and fight attempts to blocking  based on the implications of this ruling by the ECJ. They might stand a good chance, if they can prove that they host many links to lawful content ...

And maybe operators of reverse proxies should try and fight attempts to take
down their sites on the ground that the rulings to block certain websites may
not have been in compliance with this ruling by the ECJ ... It&#039;s a long shot,
but, who knows]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider the implications of the ruling by the ECJ on SABAM v Netlog (<br />
<a href="http://torrentfreak.com/eu-court-bans-anti-piracy-filters-on-hosting-services-120216/" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/eu-court-bans-anti-piracy-filters-on-hosting-services-120216/</a> ), especially the following : &#8220;The Court noted that the privacy of users is more important than protecting copyright. In addition, it fears that a filter would result in censorship of legitimate content, thereby obstructing freedom of information. [The filter] could potentially undermine freedom of information, since that system might not distinguish adequately between unlawful content and lawful content, with the result that its introduction could lead to the blocking of lawful communications,” the Court writes.</p>
<p>To the ECJ, this is obviously the crux. As long as a website hosts both lawful and unlawful content and as long as a filter, and by extension a blocking of a whole site cannot distinguish between lawful and unlawful content, this blocking &#8220;could<br />
potentially undermine freedom of information &#8220;.</p>
<p>And when a blocking &#8220;could potentially undermine freedom of information&#8221;, the same should apply to reverse proxies which allow users to circumvent blocking of sites to which access maybe should not have been blocked in the first place.</p>
<p>Maybe concerned website operators should try and fight attempts to blocking  based on the implications of this ruling by the ECJ. They might stand a good chance, if they can prove that they host many links to lawful content &#8230;</p>
<p>And maybe operators of reverse proxies should try and fight attempts to take<br />
down their sites on the ground that the rulings to block certain websites may<br />
not have been in compliance with this ruling by the ECJ &#8230; It&#8217;s a long shot,<br />
but, who knows</p>
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		<title>By: Links 11/8/2014: DEFT 8.2, Linux Mint on Debian Stable &#124; Techrights</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Links 11/8/2014: DEFT 8.2, Linux Mint on Debian Stable &#124; Techrights]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2014 08:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] EXPLORING THE LEGAL BASIS FOR THE NEW ‘PIRATE’ PROXY WAR [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] EXPLORING THE LEGAL BASIS FOR THE NEW ‘PIRATE’ PROXY WAR [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: This week, UK police took unprecedented action by shutting down and arresting the operators of proxies that restore access to The Pirate Bay and KickassTorrents &#8211; sites blocked by ISPs as the result of a court order. &#124; My Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[This week, UK police took unprecedented action by shutting down and arresting the operators of proxies that restore access to The Pirate Bay and KickassTorrents &#8211; sites blocked by ISPs as the result of a court order. &#124; My Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/exploring-the-legal-basis-for-the-new-pirate-proxy-war-140809/" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/exploring-the-legal-basis-for-the-new-pirate-proxy-war-140809/</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: chivey101</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They can&#039;t, banks, schools, government and companies use them in one form or another just to name a few. It would be such a mess legally if they did. 
Could be funny if they tried.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can&#8217;t, banks, schools, government and companies use them in one form or another just to name a few. It would be such a mess legally if they did.<br />
Could be funny if they tried.</p>
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		<title>By: chivey101</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know anyone in the UK, who would choose to stay in the EU as it is. It&#039;s just a money pit and the embodyment of corruption.
 Bring on the referendum and give Democratic choice back to the people.
As for the police taking down proxies what a waste of time and money as you can just use opera or a VPN and go  to the web sites.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know anyone in the UK, who would choose to stay in the EU as it is. It&#8217;s just a money pit and the embodyment of corruption.<br />
 Bring on the referendum and give Democratic choice back to the people.<br />
As for the police taking down proxies what a waste of time and money as you can just use opera or a VPN and go  to the web sites.</p>
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