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	<title>Comments on: Graduated Piracy Response Coming To Australia, Or Else</title>
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		<title>By: Davo</title>
		<link>/graduated-piracy-response-coming-to-australia-or-else-110711/#comment-817372</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Davo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No but it is coming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No but it is coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Donotreply</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donotreply]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You forgot to mention &#039;voluntary&#039; (voluntary for the ISP, mandatory for their customers) web filters from Telstra Bigpond (think of them as being the microsoft of ISPs for those not in Australia) and soon iPrimus (smallish ISP) and Optus (fairly large ISP, not as big as Telstra).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot to mention &#8216;voluntary&#8217; (voluntary for the ISP, mandatory for their customers) web filters from Telstra Bigpond (think of them as being the microsoft of ISPs for those not in Australia) and soon iPrimus (smallish ISP) and Optus (fairly large ISP, not as big as Telstra).</p>
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		<title>By: As ISPs Mull Pact To Fight AFACT, Pirate Party Condemns ‘Extortion’</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[As ISPs Mull Pact To Fight AFACT, Pirate Party Condemns ‘Extortion’]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Nevertheless, this is a position Australia’s ISPs find themselves in today. They have a created final from a Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft, a anti-piracy organisation financed by a large Hollywood studios. Received final week, a memo gives a ISPs until tighten of business currently to give their joining to entering into talks to impede online file-sharing – or suffer a consequences. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nevertheless, this is a position Australia’s ISPs find themselves in today. They have a created final from a Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft, a anti-piracy organisation financed by a large Hollywood studios. Received final week, a memo gives a ISPs until tighten of business currently to give their joining to entering into talks to impede online file-sharing – or suffer a consequences. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Skt</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 08:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so too am I]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so too am I</p>
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		<title>By: As ISPs Mull Pact To Fight AFACT, Pirate Party Condemns ‘Extortion’ &#124; Links Daily</title>
		<link>/graduated-piracy-response-coming-to-australia-or-else-110711/#comment-815080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[As ISPs Mull Pact To Fight AFACT, Pirate Party Condemns ‘Extortion’ &#124; Links Daily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Nevertheless, this is the position Australia&#8217;s ISPs find themselves in today. They have a written ultimatum from the Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft, the anti-piracy group financed by the big Hollywood studios. Received last week, the memo gives the ISPs until close of business today to give their commitment to entering into talks to hinder online file-sharing &#8211; or suffer the consequences. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nevertheless, this is the position Australia&#8217;s ISPs find themselves in today. They have a written ultimatum from the Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft, the anti-piracy group financed by the big Hollywood studios. Received last week, the memo gives the ISPs until close of business today to give their commitment to entering into talks to hinder online file-sharing &#8211; or suffer the consequences. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[use a VPN and you are safe]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>use a VPN and you are safe</p>
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		<title>By: Scary Devil Monastery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scary Devil Monastery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Scarlet&quot;? Dare i hope it&#039;s your autocomplete malfing? :)

And yes, telcos and their bloody billing errors. I&#039;ve done my share of finding providers and in the end actually settled for the one providing substandard coverage but excellent service/support and which had good rates to boot.

Honestly, if the local walmart sells their cookies at ten times the price and keep them on the shelves past their best-before date, then even an idiot would grab the recipe and &quot;copy&quot; the cookie batch in his own home.

The exact same reasoning applies to most noncommercial infringements of copyright. It&#039;s not rocket science.

Only problem is that we&#039;ve been stuck with the illogical nonsense called copyright for so long people can&#039;t see the utter lack of common sense inherent in the concept. Human nature, i guess.

If a trend was created mandating everyone to wear ten-pound barbells suspended by alligator clips from their scrotums we&#039;d end up fifty years later with everyone taking that trend for granted. Anyone questioning hanging weights from their testicles would be ostracized - especially by the lobby of &quot;Heavyweight ballsack decorations ltd.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Scarlet&#8221;? Dare i hope it&#8217;s your autocomplete malfing? :)</p>
<p>And yes, telcos and their bloody billing errors. I&#8217;ve done my share of finding providers and in the end actually settled for the one providing substandard coverage but excellent service/support and which had good rates to boot.</p>
<p>Honestly, if the local walmart sells their cookies at ten times the price and keep them on the shelves past their best-before date, then even an idiot would grab the recipe and &#8220;copy&#8221; the cookie batch in his own home.</p>
<p>The exact same reasoning applies to most noncommercial infringements of copyright. It&#8217;s not rocket science.</p>
<p>Only problem is that we&#8217;ve been stuck with the illogical nonsense called copyright for so long people can&#8217;t see the utter lack of common sense inherent in the concept. Human nature, i guess.</p>
<p>If a trend was created mandating everyone to wear ten-pound barbells suspended by alligator clips from their scrotums we&#8217;d end up fifty years later with everyone taking that trend for granted. Anyone questioning hanging weights from their testicles would be ostracized &#8211; especially by the lobby of &#8220;Heavyweight ballsack decorations ltd.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Scary Devil Monastery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scary Devil Monastery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not workable. Yes, MPAA does that, fine. Then RIAA wants in. Then CRIA, IFPI, AFACT, any &quot;stakeholder&quot; who thinks &quot;their&quot; work is shared in any nation.

Next time you look at the ISP bill you&#039;ll find claims from a thousand NGO&#039;s around the world, many of whom started up right after the levy was introduced just to get in to the action.

Bear in mind that these are the companies who implemented a business model consisting of a protection racket involving mass-mailed legal threats based on intimidation without evidence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not workable. Yes, MPAA does that, fine. Then RIAA wants in. Then CRIA, IFPI, AFACT, any &#8220;stakeholder&#8221; who thinks &#8220;their&#8221; work is shared in any nation.</p>
<p>Next time you look at the ISP bill you&#8217;ll find claims from a thousand NGO&#8217;s around the world, many of whom started up right after the levy was introduced just to get in to the action.</p>
<p>Bear in mind that these are the companies who implemented a business model consisting of a protection racket involving mass-mailed legal threats based on intimidation without evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Scary Devil Monastery</title>
		<link>/graduated-piracy-response-coming-to-australia-or-else-110711/#comment-814987</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scary Devil Monastery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t matter whether 99% of the citizenry are &quot;abusing&quot; their civic rights or not. In most countries the suspension of fundamental civil rights simply because those civil rights can be abused isn&#039;t even an issue. Only during wartime or mass disasters is there an &quot;opt-out&quot; clause specified.

As a luminating example of this bear in mind that privacy laws are in effect despite the widespread crimes of murder, drug dealing and arms sales. Now if we only abolished search and seizure restrictions we could probably solve over half of these crimes far faster.

As the Sovjet Union and the DDR amply demonstrated, this is &lt;b&gt;not a good idea&lt;/b&gt;.

I.e. it doesn&#039;t really matter how many people indulge in filesharing, it still isn&#039;t an excuse for trying to abolish personal privacy én másse.

Oh, and incidentally, any such attempts will fail anyway as savvy filesharers utilize darknets anyway. So the only people for whom privacy gets abolished will be John Q Doe who believes he has no reason to hide.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter whether 99% of the citizenry are &#8220;abusing&#8221; their civic rights or not. In most countries the suspension of fundamental civil rights simply because those civil rights can be abused isn&#8217;t even an issue. Only during wartime or mass disasters is there an &#8220;opt-out&#8221; clause specified.</p>
<p>As a luminating example of this bear in mind that privacy laws are in effect despite the widespread crimes of murder, drug dealing and arms sales. Now if we only abolished search and seizure restrictions we could probably solve over half of these crimes far faster.</p>
<p>As the Sovjet Union and the DDR amply demonstrated, this is <b>not a good idea</b>.</p>
<p>I.e. it doesn&#8217;t really matter how many people indulge in filesharing, it still isn&#8217;t an excuse for trying to abolish personal privacy én másse.</p>
<p>Oh, and incidentally, any such attempts will fail anyway as savvy filesharers utilize darknets anyway. So the only people for whom privacy gets abolished will be John Q Doe who believes he has no reason to hide.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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