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		<title>By: Scarlet kan geen illegale content blokkeren &#124; Computertaal</title>
		<link>/isp-its-impossible-for-us-to-stop-illegal-p2p-080923/#comment-511879</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scarlet kan geen illegale content blokkeren &#124; Computertaal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] mooie overwinning dus voor de gewone gebruiker. Sabam houdt overigens wel vol dat het de filters kan gebruiken. Alleen lijkt Sabam er niet zo van [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mooie overwinning dus voor de gewone gebruiker. Sabam houdt overigens wel vol dat het de filters kan gebruiken. Alleen lijkt Sabam er niet zo van [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>/isp-its-impossible-for-us-to-stop-illegal-p2p-080923/#comment-499685</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once upon a time  - in the days of mainframe computers - at a certain university computer centre somewhere in the northwest of England they used to test the lineprinters using picture files -  some of you may remember those days - the Mona Lisa cleverly rendered with lineprinter characters.

Now the users of this system liked to print out these files to put on their office/bedroom walls. The centre management decided - in their &quot;wisdom&quot; that this was a waste of money and so they removed the picture files from the system. 
Unfortunately for them a few people had made copies of these files - and promptly shared them with their friends - so the printing of pictures continued - but now of course much (at that time scarce) disk space was now being used to store multiple copies of these files. 
So the managers set about deleting these files from the users&#039; disk allocations (at considerable cost in time and effort).

Of course the users quickly realised that this was happening and so they encrypted their files - and dressed them up to look like numerical data files.

The printing of pictures continued.

The waste of storage space increased.

AND  - now valuable (at the time) processing resources were being used.

Over the past 30 years I have watched with amusement as the same merry dance repeats again and again - 

the moral of the tale:

1. You can&#039;t stop technically savvy people from doing what they want to with technology

2. Every effort you make to do so will ultimately just cause you further loss.

When will they ever learn....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once upon a time  &#8211; in the days of mainframe computers &#8211; at a certain university computer centre somewhere in the northwest of England they used to test the lineprinters using picture files &#8211;  some of you may remember those days &#8211; the Mona Lisa cleverly rendered with lineprinter characters.</p>
<p>Now the users of this system liked to print out these files to put on their office/bedroom walls. The centre management decided &#8211; in their &#8220;wisdom&#8221; that this was a waste of money and so they removed the picture files from the system.<br />
Unfortunately for them a few people had made copies of these files &#8211; and promptly shared them with their friends &#8211; so the printing of pictures continued &#8211; but now of course much (at that time scarce) disk space was now being used to store multiple copies of these files.<br />
So the managers set about deleting these files from the users&#8217; disk allocations (at considerable cost in time and effort).</p>
<p>Of course the users quickly realised that this was happening and so they encrypted their files &#8211; and dressed them up to look like numerical data files.</p>
<p>The printing of pictures continued.</p>
<p>The waste of storage space increased.</p>
<p>AND  &#8211; now valuable (at the time) processing resources were being used.</p>
<p>Over the past 30 years I have watched with amusement as the same merry dance repeats again and again &#8211; </p>
<p>the moral of the tale:</p>
<p>1. You can&#8217;t stop technically savvy people from doing what they want to with technology</p>
<p>2. Every effort you make to do so will ultimately just cause you further loss.</p>
<p>When will they ever learn&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: gatman712</title>
		<link>/isp-its-impossible-for-us-to-stop-illegal-p2p-080923/#comment-498683</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gatman712]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[at number 5 what the fuck you doing here then bitch get lost, you over here spying on us so you can snitch to your fucking isp. go suck there dicks homie and get the fuck out of this site u dick ridin bitch, go block dicks from going into yours moms pussy hoe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at number 5 what the fuck you doing here then bitch get lost, you over here spying on us so you can snitch to your fucking isp. go suck there dicks homie and get the fuck out of this site u dick ridin bitch, go block dicks from going into yours moms pussy hoe.</p>
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		<title>By: SomKen</title>
		<link>/isp-its-impossible-for-us-to-stop-illegal-p2p-080923/#comment-498301</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SomKen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a Verizon customer and I download stuff using Bittorrent.  unless this magic stuff isn&#039;t on in my area (which I doubt), there is no way it will work.  ISP won&#039;t understand that bittorrent, usenet, FTP, and many others to, to name a few, have legit uses.  I use bittorrent to download the latest version of CentOS. As we know, CentOS is Linux and its also free. The only way to block all of P2P would be to read everypacket, invasion of privacy, and block all bad packets.  However, that in its self is hard.  Enecryption is just the stake in the heart of that idea.  

When will ISPs just relize there is nothing they can do.  Would a phone company of cut your phone if you pireted stuff back in the BBS days? no.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Verizon customer and I download stuff using Bittorrent.  unless this magic stuff isn&#8217;t on in my area (which I doubt), there is no way it will work.  ISP won&#8217;t understand that bittorrent, usenet, FTP, and many others to, to name a few, have legit uses.  I use bittorrent to download the latest version of CentOS. As we know, CentOS is Linux and its also free. The only way to block all of P2P would be to read everypacket, invasion of privacy, and block all bad packets.  However, that in its self is hard.  Enecryption is just the stake in the heart of that idea.  </p>
<p>When will ISPs just relize there is nothing they can do.  Would a phone company of cut your phone if you pireted stuff back in the BBS days? no.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabba</title>
		<link>/isp-its-impossible-for-us-to-stop-illegal-p2p-080923/#comment-497805</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gabba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, Dave, I don&#039;t buy it. 

There is no way you can reliably distinguish the legality or otherwise of all or even 85% of traffic, especially with the modest resources available to the average ISP. Dude, the NSA wouldn&#039;t be able to do it.

Encryption, reduced data transfer rates, privacy issues, the problem of false positives, etc, etc, etc. No way you are going to solve all those serious technical and legal hurdles.

I call complete bullshit on your claim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Dave, I don&#8217;t buy it. </p>
<p>There is no way you can reliably distinguish the legality or otherwise of all or even 85% of traffic, especially with the modest resources available to the average ISP. Dude, the NSA wouldn&#8217;t be able to do it.</p>
<p>Encryption, reduced data transfer rates, privacy issues, the problem of false positives, etc, etc, etc. No way you are going to solve all those serious technical and legal hurdles.</p>
<p>I call complete bullshit on your claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can&#039;t say it better than chronnoss]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t say it better than chronnoss</p>
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		<title>By: DaThinker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DaThinker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Dave: That would not satify the judge. The ruling required the illegal files to be &quot;blocked&quot;, not &quot;diminished&quot;.

What you are saying is -- to a lawyer -- like a convicted serial killer saying &quot;I&#039;m cured, now I kill only once per month, not one a day&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave: That would not satify the judge. The ruling required the illegal files to be &#8220;blocked&#8221;, not &#8220;diminished&#8221;.</p>
<p>What you are saying is &#8212; to a lawyer &#8212; like a convicted serial killer saying &#8220;I&#8217;m cured, now I kill only once per month, not one a day&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: oneplusone</title>
		<link>/isp-its-impossible-for-us-to-stop-illegal-p2p-080923/#comment-497700</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[oneplusone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;55 Sep 23, 2008 at 20:22 by PedoPhile

    catch pirates is a good thing

    we should have death penalty against pirates&quot;

Riiiight. Could you possibly need MORE attention?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;55 Sep 23, 2008 at 20:22 by PedoPhile</p>
<p>    catch pirates is a good thing</p>
<p>    we should have death penalty against pirates&#8221;</p>
<p>Riiiight. Could you possibly need MORE attention?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/isp-its-impossible-for-us-to-stop-illegal-p2p-080923/#comment-497697</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave

  &quot;...leaving legitimate traffic along.&quot;

I don&#039;t understand how you could be sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave</p>
<p>  &#8220;&#8230;leaving legitimate traffic along.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand how you could be sure.</p>
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		<title>By: oneplusone</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[oneplusone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SABAM lies! 

Old stupid judge. 

Verizon should sue SABAM for damages, now. If I were a Verizon customer, I&#039;d be on the phone right quick, forcing Verizon to react.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SABAM lies! </p>
<p>Old stupid judge. </p>
<p>Verizon should sue SABAM for damages, now. If I were a Verizon customer, I&#8217;d be on the phone right quick, forcing Verizon to react.</p>
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