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		<title>By: Rubinski</title>
		<link>/kiwis-delay-draconian-file-sharing-law-090223/#comment-536364</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I work for an NZ ISP. There is no incentive for an ISP to police this law. In little old NZ we charge per meg so ISP make a great deal of money from pirates and pirating. The worst that would happen is we would make them move onto a new account. It is not worth making all this fuss about.
If you look closely at the law there are gaps a 100 feet wide in it.
IMHO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for an NZ ISP. There is no incentive for an ISP to police this law. In little old NZ we charge per meg so ISP make a great deal of money from pirates and pirating. The worst that would happen is we would make them move onto a new account. It is not worth making all this fuss about.<br />
If you look closely at the law there are gaps a 100 feet wide in it.<br />
IMHO</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>/kiwis-delay-draconian-file-sharing-law-090223/#comment-534828</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MHM yes looks like plutocracy indeed. If you look at the democracy index you see that they are targeting and spending a lot of time to try and get some of the (probably most of them) top 10 democratic countries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MHM yes looks like plutocracy indeed. If you look at the democracy index you see that they are targeting and spending a lot of time to try and get some of the (probably most of them) top 10 democratic countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>/kiwis-delay-draconian-file-sharing-law-090223/#comment-534820</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 01:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey wow I just realized something. Well in NZ your allowed to breach copyright for the purposes of reviews and some other reasons. Well how do they know that your download was breaching copyright laws or not. All you need to say is that my download was strictly for the purposes of reviewing and therefore don&#039;t cut of my internet or I see you in court for malpractice. And if you get caught uploading you say well excuse me uploading isn&#039;t a crime. Because their are legitimate reasons that people could be downloading it from you which do not break the law (like reviews) and unfortunately you can not stop people downloading it illegally. And you can say you where unaware that anyone was downloading it illegally from you and that you think that they should prosecute them if they know it was illegal and have proof.

And because of this the law will never work. Because people could be downloading their copyrighted content over a P2P network and be either illegally or legally doing it (as in breaking or not breaking the law).

Also the monitoring methods are really bad. They have been known to be so wrong that a law firm contracted to fine people for breaching corporates copyrights has even fined a dead/blind/old person that didn&#039;t know anything about p2p and didn&#039;t download anything. Also they keep reporting things like printers and other devices that are in no way capable of piracy on a p2p network.

Disconnecting someone&#039;s internet connection does not help the content makers in anyway. Even if piracy has a negative impact on sales (which I doubt as many company&#039;s already put me of their products) disconnecting their internet temporarily will not do anything to help sales as they can still manually share with a mate. And their internet will be back up within a week. Their not even getting money out of it. And the only way to stop online piracy is to kick online pirates of the internet. This will not solve piracy so why do it?

This just makes things worse for everyone.

If the government disconnects my internet permanently I will fly to  the parliament building and stand outside and not eat until I get my internet on and my rights back.

RIAA have been caught and charged of price fixing. RIAA have sued against damages in sales but then never given the royalties over to the artists (taking someone&#039;s royalties is called stealing). RIAA support only a few companies which do not makeup the entire industry (however they claim to support the entire industry) and each of those companies do not work for the artists as they have shares and work for the shareholders. So to sum it up the RIAA work for a few companies (not all companies) in the music industry whose sole goal is to make money for the shareholder. Given that the RIAA have been caught price fixing, have restrictive DRM, operate in anti-competitive ways, been charged for price fixing, sues school children wrecking their lives with debt forever, and have even stolen from the artists it raises huge amounts of doubt to their so called motive &quot;supporting artists + making the world nicer&quot;. That coupled with the fact that they do not represent the majority of people and that in a democracy the majority decides what to do makes the law dum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey wow I just realized something. Well in NZ your allowed to breach copyright for the purposes of reviews and some other reasons. Well how do they know that your download was breaching copyright laws or not. All you need to say is that my download was strictly for the purposes of reviewing and therefore don&#8217;t cut of my internet or I see you in court for malpractice. And if you get caught uploading you say well excuse me uploading isn&#8217;t a crime. Because their are legitimate reasons that people could be downloading it from you which do not break the law (like reviews) and unfortunately you can not stop people downloading it illegally. And you can say you where unaware that anyone was downloading it illegally from you and that you think that they should prosecute them if they know it was illegal and have proof.</p>
<p>And because of this the law will never work. Because people could be downloading their copyrighted content over a P2P network and be either illegally or legally doing it (as in breaking or not breaking the law).</p>
<p>Also the monitoring methods are really bad. They have been known to be so wrong that a law firm contracted to fine people for breaching corporates copyrights has even fined a dead/blind/old person that didn&#8217;t know anything about p2p and didn&#8217;t download anything. Also they keep reporting things like printers and other devices that are in no way capable of piracy on a p2p network.</p>
<p>Disconnecting someone&#8217;s internet connection does not help the content makers in anyway. Even if piracy has a negative impact on sales (which I doubt as many company&#8217;s already put me of their products) disconnecting their internet temporarily will not do anything to help sales as they can still manually share with a mate. And their internet will be back up within a week. Their not even getting money out of it. And the only way to stop online piracy is to kick online pirates of the internet. This will not solve piracy so why do it?</p>
<p>This just makes things worse for everyone.</p>
<p>If the government disconnects my internet permanently I will fly to  the parliament building and stand outside and not eat until I get my internet on and my rights back.</p>
<p>RIAA have been caught and charged of price fixing. RIAA have sued against damages in sales but then never given the royalties over to the artists (taking someone&#8217;s royalties is called stealing). RIAA support only a few companies which do not makeup the entire industry (however they claim to support the entire industry) and each of those companies do not work for the artists as they have shares and work for the shareholders. So to sum it up the RIAA work for a few companies (not all companies) in the music industry whose sole goal is to make money for the shareholder. Given that the RIAA have been caught price fixing, have restrictive DRM, operate in anti-competitive ways, been charged for price fixing, sues school children wrecking their lives with debt forever, and have even stolen from the artists it raises huge amounts of doubt to their so called motive &#8220;supporting artists + making the world nicer&#8221;. That coupled with the fact that they do not represent the majority of people and that in a democracy the majority decides what to do makes the law dum.</p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stone age is right.

Iv had to explain to quite a few foreigners the situation within new zealand.

In short:
&#039;we pre much have a monopoly situation, where one company owns most of the infrastructure and the only pipe out of the country&#039;

Many are quite surprised and horrified to hear that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stone age is right.</p>
<p>Iv had to explain to quite a few foreigners the situation within new zealand.</p>
<p>In short:<br />
&#8216;we pre much have a monopoly situation, where one company owns most of the infrastructure and the only pipe out of the country&#8217;</p>
<p>Many are quite surprised and horrified to hear that.</p>
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		<title>By: New Zealand, Ewe Should Come &#171; The Zooniverse</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New Zealand, Ewe Should Come &#171; The Zooniverse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] starts creating laws restricting things, the internet won&#8217;t be the same. I&#8217;ve read on other sites that the government in New Zealand is trying to set up a &#8220;three strikes&#8221; policy for [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] starts creating laws restricting things, the internet won&#8217;t be the same. I&#8217;ve read on other sites that the government in New Zealand is trying to set up a &#8220;three strikes&#8221; policy for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Siva</title>
		<link>/kiwis-delay-draconian-file-sharing-law-090223/#comment-534678</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Siva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why dont these oraganisation understand.....


theier old system of working is a thing of past !!!!

http://www.Urssiva.com


Hope they change..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why dont these oraganisation understand&#8230;..</p>
<p>theier old system of working is a thing of past !!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.Urssiva.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Urssiva.com</a></p>
<p>Hope they change..</p>
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		<title>By: Skip</title>
		<link>/kiwis-delay-draconian-file-sharing-law-090223/#comment-534480</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NZ&#039;s internet is like being in stone age.

It&#039;s funny how France came up with the idea of 3 strikes and then they didn&#039;t implement it but some other &quot;democratic&quot; nations are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NZ&#8217;s internet is like being in stone age.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny how France came up with the idea of 3 strikes and then they didn&#8217;t implement it but some other &#8220;democratic&#8221; nations are.</p>
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		<title>By: Pickle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pickle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, the blacked out profile images was incredibly effective. The campaign was simmering along getting some traction, but it was the blackout that made it front page news. 

I think it&#039;s because people who&#039;d never even heard of the issue suddenly noticed half their Facebook or Twitter friends&#039; faces turning into black squares. When they asked &quot;WTF?&quot; they started learning (a) what the issue was, and (b) how many people cared about it. Pretty soon they also blacked out their profiles and started following tweets and links and - hey presto! It became a truly viral protest.

Hats off to everyone involved - this was NZ&#039;s first real taste of the power of online activism. Hopefully it won&#039;t be the last.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the blacked out profile images was incredibly effective. The campaign was simmering along getting some traction, but it was the blackout that made it front page news. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s because people who&#8217;d never even heard of the issue suddenly noticed half their Facebook or Twitter friends&#8217; faces turning into black squares. When they asked &#8220;WTF?&#8221; they started learning (a) what the issue was, and (b) how many people cared about it. Pretty soon they also blacked out their profiles and started following tweets and links and &#8211; hey presto! It became a truly viral protest.</p>
<p>Hats off to everyone involved &#8211; this was NZ&#8217;s first real taste of the power of online activism. Hopefully it won&#8217;t be the last.</p>
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		<title>By: Linkdump 36 &#124; ettf.net</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The poor New Zealanders can breathe for another month whilst the terrible file sharing law has been delayed [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The poor New Zealanders can breathe for another month whilst the terrible file sharing law has been delayed [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/kiwis-delay-draconian-file-sharing-law-090223/#comment-534248</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Conspiracy Crazies
&quot;The people here throwing around words like “fascist” and “plutocracy” are ...&quot;

Right on the money. If you think this 3-strikes legislation is neither fascist nor plutocratic, then you need to learn what the words &lt;i&gt;fascist&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;plutocratic&lt;/i&gt; mean. 

You&#039;re right that New Zealand was founded on democratic principles, which means those who let this legislation pass are acting as traitors to their own country. Until they&#039;re purged from the government, it can&#039;t rightly be called a democracy. 
 
I&#039;m sure this is all lost on you and your two braincells, however.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Conspiracy Crazies<br />
&#8220;The people here throwing around words like “fascist” and “plutocracy” are &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Right on the money. If you think this 3-strikes legislation is neither fascist nor plutocratic, then you need to learn what the words <i>fascist</i> and <i>plutocratic</i> mean. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right that New Zealand was founded on democratic principles, which means those who let this legislation pass are acting as traitors to their own country. Until they&#8217;re purged from the government, it can&#8217;t rightly be called a democracy. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure this is all lost on you and your two braincells, however.</p>
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