You’re not really arguing against the points I make here.

Imo the people who believe in Kickstarter as some kind of saviour can also be accused of gullibility.

Here’s another look at it:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/10/haunts-kickstarter-failure-highlights-the-risks-of-crowdfunding/

Open source competes with free…..by being free?
Movies and music can be compressed so games have a slight upper hand sizewise when it comes to filesharing. They also usually have some kind of copy protection and then you have to really trust whoever provides the crack to not supply you with an unexpected “gift”.

And if this article has anything right, it seems the pc game market isn’t that healthy: http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2012/08/22/ubisoft-ceo-yves-guillemot-pc-gaming-piracy-levels-up-at-95/

Ever think about why so many games try to have an online component that costs money these days?

We already talked about trademarks. The idea of trademarking a file is silly.

In a fair market, price is based on demand and everyone doing the supplying has to operate under similar conditions (which in this case is compensating the creator). Piracy doesn’t operate under these conditions and therefore can’t be considered fair competition.

People create for various reasons. People publish for 2-3 reasons. The ego gratification, the paycheck and possibly from the need to communicate something. Once production starts to cost serious money it becomes hard to justify publishing and creating for reasons of ego and communication alone.

Your analysis isn’t that thorough.

sourceforge. Linux. pretty much anything open source.
The Humble Bundle. Steam. Fuck man, Evian for christ’s sake. It’s easy to complain that it can’t be done if you’re not willing to try.

As far as fair market, I don’t think you understand the term. “Fair Market” means not imflating the price point to pay for a technology that was paid off decades ago. “Fair Market” refers to a market in which the entrepreneur sees a need and matches his product to fit it, not tries to get the law changed to stop people from doing the same thing they’ve been doing for centuries.

thereby making it easier for them to focus on creating.

If you’re creating for a paycheck, then you’re in the minority. People have been creating for centuries, without the option of copyright, and that didn’t stop them from trying. There is no shortage of people that want to create…no, scratch that, that can’t ~help~ but create, because the need is driving them.

Your argument falls apart at the very first inkling of analysis.

The entertainment industry, the middle men of the RIAA and MPAA, with their lobbying and their inability to actually represent the artists of today, that are only looking to maintain their profit margins in an age when the public are not buying the bullshit hype anymore, do not have the public’s good faith. Nobody agrees with their goals anymore, except the very gullible.

(that’s you)

Competing with free is very hard. Competing with something that isn’t operating under the principles of a fair market shouldn’t even have to be considered.

It promotes the useful (subjective) arts because it gives creators a possibility to sell their products, thereby making it easier for them to focus on creating. The possibilty of creating stuff being at least part of making a living will also help in enticing new creators into the game.

I forgot. Tl;dr argument > all.

Tl;dr summary:

If piracy becomes norm it will condition people to think of music as free -> It will become even harder to sell. See Spain.
Study shows no one wants t-shirts = selling t-shirts not substitute.

Kickstarter:
Mainstream rules. Selling odd stuff through kickstarter hard since fanbase small. Expensive productions likely to fail. If kickstarter becomes only option -> intense competition -> many good projects likely to fail. Likely to lead to less diversity.

Kickstarter illegal in Finland. Why bad from consumer pov? Because 1. Fraud 2. Greater likelihood of crap quality since payment made in advance.

Why propose kickstarter since current model is kickstarter model without payment in advance?

That should be it. For a more elaborated argument read the long version.

The Falkvinge snippet is kind of silly, because makers of movies, records and books do provide something people are willing to pay for. What they need is the same protection any business owner has when it comes to having their products taken for free.

I can’t help but notice that as soon as someone offers a suggestion (because you insist that it’s up to those of us who say that the old way isn’t working to come up with a new solution), that you spout off 800 words of why it won’t work. That’s a sound strategy to turn the tables and put people on the defensive, as long as nobody notices.

Here’s the simple fact:

http://falkvinge.net/2011/01/31/how-shall-the-artists-get-paid/

Specifically:

In most of the world, we have a market economy. That means it is up to each and every one of us to find a paying job; I will not and can not dictate how a particular person is going to make a living. In a market economy, everybody need to find their own way to contribute to the economy and make a living off of it.

The instant somebody goes from playing their guitar in the bedroom and at parties to wanting to make money off of it, they are no longer an artist, but an entrepreneur and a business owner. The same rules apply to them as to every other entrepreneur on the planet: They need to provide something which somebody else is prepared to pay for.

If they can do that, they need no law to sustain their business. If they can’t do that, no conceivable law can save their business.

you already know the answer to this. Instead of pressuring people to change through threats and intimitadtion, give them a reason to buy. Compete with piracy. It can be done, and it’s a lot cheaper than litigating against the entire population and lobbying for bills that get shot down by the masses.

And it’s not just “their” culture

No, it’s everyone’s culture, that’s the point. But locking it up does what, exactly, for society? How does that promote the useful arts?