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		<title>By: madlars</title>
		<link>/mpaa-not-done-with-torrentspy-yet-071012/#comment-321940</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i forgot to mention.
torrentspy is ideal for people who lost a cd of theyr game.
i did a few times, i downloaded, put in MY serial, and it was legal.
for example, i have age of mythology. i lost the cd, couldent find it, searched on torrentspy, downloaded it, inserted the serial key froom the guide in it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i forgot to mention.<br />
torrentspy is ideal for people who lost a cd of theyr game.<br />
i did a few times, i downloaded, put in MY serial, and it was legal.<br />
for example, i have age of mythology. i lost the cd, couldent find it, searched on torrentspy, downloaded it, inserted the serial key froom the guide in it.</p>
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		<title>By: madlars</title>
		<link>/mpaa-not-done-with-torrentspy-yet-071012/#comment-321934</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[torrents arent illegal, they&#039;re invented for programmers to let people test theyr programs, even with movies. and some programs are just free, its user submitted, should torrentspy die because of some guys submitting illegal content?
i think that sux. i always used torrentspy.
ofcourse i&#039;ve donloaded illegal things, but was it meant for that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>torrents arent illegal, they&#8217;re invented for programmers to let people test theyr programs, even with movies. and some programs are just free, its user submitted, should torrentspy die because of some guys submitting illegal content?<br />
i think that sux. i always used torrentspy.<br />
ofcourse i&#8217;ve donloaded illegal things, but was it meant for that?</p>
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		<title>By: LoCoPyRo</title>
		<link>/mpaa-not-done-with-torrentspy-yet-071012/#comment-321315</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think everyone is missing the point of the article.  It doesn&#039;t even matter if bittorrent is legal or illegal (in a civil or criminal sense -of which it can be either- depending on which charges are brought up).  This case deals with a much bigger issue that is going to have a profound effect on all future generations.  

It illustrates the danger to net neutrality.  

If the MPAA can convince US courts to force organizations like torrentspy to hand over logs (which they dont even have in the first place) then what stops them from making ISPs to make logs and then hand them over?  Currently ISPs in America and most of the world are not required to log internet activity and are not responsible for the actions of their users.  But, in 20 years it could be completely possible that all of your internet activities will be monitored and restricted to prevent you from getting to parts of the internet (like torrent sites or whatever is deemed &#039;dangerous&#039; by the government or even the ISP  or just what they feel like blocking on that day of the week). If the middlemen who provide access to information on the internet (ISPs and search engines) become responsible for the way their users use the internet things are going to go sour pretty fast.  The laws on all this are still pretty loose and they are going to be set in stone soon by court cases such as this.

I support Torrentspy in their endeavors much as I support someone who goes to court to try and protect their freedom of speech or press or anything.  It doesn&#039;t matter if their original reasons were illegal or even stupid, they are still doing the right thing by trying to protect a right they have. 

Furthermore, saying Torrentspy did something illegal is inane.  They would probably not be convicted if this issue had gone to court.  The analogy to a phone book is probably the best example anyone gave.  Also the fact that they are doing the exact same thing as a site like google, who doesn&#039;t get persecuted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone is missing the point of the article.  It doesn&#8217;t even matter if bittorrent is legal or illegal (in a civil or criminal sense -of which it can be either- depending on which charges are brought up).  This case deals with a much bigger issue that is going to have a profound effect on all future generations.  </p>
<p>It illustrates the danger to net neutrality.  </p>
<p>If the MPAA can convince US courts to force organizations like torrentspy to hand over logs (which they dont even have in the first place) then what stops them from making ISPs to make logs and then hand them over?  Currently ISPs in America and most of the world are not required to log internet activity and are not responsible for the actions of their users.  But, in 20 years it could be completely possible that all of your internet activities will be monitored and restricted to prevent you from getting to parts of the internet (like torrent sites or whatever is deemed &#8216;dangerous&#8217; by the government or even the ISP  or just what they feel like blocking on that day of the week). If the middlemen who provide access to information on the internet (ISPs and search engines) become responsible for the way their users use the internet things are going to go sour pretty fast.  The laws on all this are still pretty loose and they are going to be set in stone soon by court cases such as this.</p>
<p>I support Torrentspy in their endeavors much as I support someone who goes to court to try and protect their freedom of speech or press or anything.  It doesn&#8217;t matter if their original reasons were illegal or even stupid, they are still doing the right thing by trying to protect a right they have. </p>
<p>Furthermore, saying Torrentspy did something illegal is inane.  They would probably not be convicted if this issue had gone to court.  The analogy to a phone book is probably the best example anyone gave.  Also the fact that they are doing the exact same thing as a site like google, who doesn&#8217;t get persecuted.</p>
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		<title>By: TorrentSpy Shuts Down : Half Spy</title>
		<link>/mpaa-not-done-with-torrentspy-yet-071012/#comment-320373</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TorrentSpy Shuts Down : Half Spy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] was not enough for the MPAA, who argued that TorrentSpy had ignored the court decision. The legal battle continued, and this eventually led to a preventative closure [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was not enough for the MPAA, who argued that TorrentSpy had ignored the court decision. The legal battle continued, and this eventually led to a preventative closure [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/mpaa-not-done-with-torrentspy-yet-071012/#comment-309678</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: visit</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: guide</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>/mpaa-not-done-with-torrentspy-yet-071012/#comment-231623</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ceri</title>
		<link>/mpaa-not-done-with-torrentspy-yet-071012/#comment-216642</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Torrent sites and profit... Hmm, trying to think of any torrent site I know that profits from the copyright infringement. Nope none come to mind. Though most have donation links the donations go where they&#039;re meant to in most if not all cases, to help cover server costs.
And many the site administrators have no part in downloading/uploading torrents so they don&#039;t profit in that manner either.

Learn to phrase things better if you meant something different. The moment a torrent site makes profit from breaking the law that takes things to a whole other level, professional piracy which only **AA has to rights to judging from these court battles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torrent sites and profit&#8230; Hmm, trying to think of any torrent site I know that profits from the copyright infringement. Nope none come to mind. Though most have donation links the donations go where they&#8217;re meant to in most if not all cases, to help cover server costs.<br />
And many the site administrators have no part in downloading/uploading torrents so they don&#8217;t profit in that manner either.</p>
<p>Learn to phrase things better if you meant something different. The moment a torrent site makes profit from breaking the law that takes things to a whole other level, professional piracy which only **AA has to rights to judging from these court battles.</p>
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