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		<title>By: Jimbori</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimbori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Internet 2 is going to shut everything down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Internet 2 is going to shut everything down.</p>
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		<title>By: Scooby</title>
		<link>/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637685</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scooby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HELLZ YA CHOCO UGG BOOTS FTW]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HELLZ YA CHOCO UGG BOOTS FTW</p>
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		<title>By: Scooby</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scooby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude I am SOOOO gonna go que up some chocolate Ugg boots on my uTorrent!  For some reason I can&#039;t stop thinking about them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude I am SOOOO gonna go que up some chocolate Ugg boots on my uTorrent!  For some reason I can&#8217;t stop thinking about them.</p>
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		<title>By: Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent Blocking &#171; Descent Into Darkness</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent Blocking &#171; Descent Into Darkness]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent&#160;Blocking  February 1, 2010 Leave a comment Go to comments    This is really bad business&#8230; Ignited by the Comcast fiasco in the US, the concept of Net Neutrality has been brought into the mai... [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent&nbsp;Blocking  February 1, 2010 Leave a comment Go to comments    This is really bad business&#8230; Ignited by the Comcast fiasco in the US, the concept of Net Neutrality has been brought into the mai&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: La net neutrality non impedirà il blocco del traffico BitTorrent</title>
		<link>/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637587</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[La net neutrality non impedirà il blocco del traffico BitTorrent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] al 2008, al tempo della decisione della FCC contro Comcast, sembrava quasi che l’ISP bloccando il traffico BitTorrent, per risolvere gli ingorghi della banda, si [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] al 2008, al tempo della decisione della FCC contro Comcast, sembrava quasi che l’ISP bloccando il traffico BitTorrent, per risolvere gli ingorghi della banda, si [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike K</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ernesto Said:

&quot;Under the proposed plans, ISPs could simply manage their networks by slowing down connections that use “too many” TCP connections&quot;

I have Comcast and this new method began about a year ago when they stopped the previous &quot;Reset connection&quot; method.

While BitTorrent is not directly affected, any web traffic is slowed down.  This includes talking to the tracker, which uses HTTP.

The more TCP connections, the slower it gets.  Web traffic is completely blocked when you join a torrent with thousands of users, regardless of how much you restrict the upload or download speed.  However, BitTorrent transfers between peers are completely unaffected.

I have found that setting the &quot;Max connections&quot; to 50 or less helps for torrents with hundreds peers.

(In case you are wondering if my computer or router is at fault, I have been using BitTorrent for many years and this never happened before about a year ago.  Also, I have tried multiple clients on both Linux and Windows.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ernesto Said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Under the proposed plans, ISPs could simply manage their networks by slowing down connections that use “too many” TCP connections&#8221;</p>
<p>I have Comcast and this new method began about a year ago when they stopped the previous &#8220;Reset connection&#8221; method.</p>
<p>While BitTorrent is not directly affected, any web traffic is slowed down.  This includes talking to the tracker, which uses HTTP.</p>
<p>The more TCP connections, the slower it gets.  Web traffic is completely blocked when you join a torrent with thousands of users, regardless of how much you restrict the upload or download speed.  However, BitTorrent transfers between peers are completely unaffected.</p>
<p>I have found that setting the &#8220;Max connections&#8221; to 50 or less helps for torrents with hundreds peers.</p>
<p>(In case you are wondering if my computer or router is at fault, I have been using BitTorrent for many years and this never happened before about a year ago.  Also, I have tried multiple clients on both Linux and Windows.)</p>
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		<title>By: Borderliner</title>
		<link>/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637504</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Borderliner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ 54 / Anon
It&#039;s called &quot;steganography&quot; and while in theory it&#039;s great there are a bunch of problems with it in practice. For starters the overhead, which can be up to 50% or more, depending on the container you use for hiding. In other words - if you have a 100MB file then you have to upload 200+ megs. Main reason why BT is so popular in the first place is that it&#039;s protocol overhead is rather small compared to other P2P systems. Secondly it&#039;s not hard to determine that something is hidden in an image. Not what is hidden, but the hiding fact itself. There are several studieas about this and if I&#039;m not mistaken then atleast one program out there to automatically check images for hidden data. It&#039;s not really hard for ISPs to deploy solutions like that to unencrypted traffic. Thirdly: if you encrypt the RARs there&#039;s no point in using hiding at all. Sure, there are a couple of cyberlockers which don&#039;t allow crypted RARs, but they&#039;re a minority, also most image hosters don&#039;t support images larger than a couple of MBs so they&#039;re not really usable as RAR hosters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 54 / Anon<br />
It&#8217;s called &#8220;steganography&#8221; and while in theory it&#8217;s great there are a bunch of problems with it in practice. For starters the overhead, which can be up to 50% or more, depending on the container you use for hiding. In other words &#8211; if you have a 100MB file then you have to upload 200+ megs. Main reason why BT is so popular in the first place is that it&#8217;s protocol overhead is rather small compared to other P2P systems. Secondly it&#8217;s not hard to determine that something is hidden in an image. Not what is hidden, but the hiding fact itself. There are several studieas about this and if I&#8217;m not mistaken then atleast one program out there to automatically check images for hidden data. It&#8217;s not really hard for ISPs to deploy solutions like that to unencrypted traffic. Thirdly: if you encrypt the RARs there&#8217;s no point in using hiding at all. Sure, there are a couple of cyberlockers which don&#8217;t allow crypted RARs, but they&#8217;re a minority, also most image hosters don&#8217;t support images larger than a couple of MBs so they&#8217;re not really usable as RAR hosters.</p>
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		<title>By: linux user</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[linux user]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by the way they are just being cheap when they throttle the bandwidth it saves them money electrical power and upgrade time and support costs this includes security its easy to watch a slow network not really a joke but Comcast seems to think so  since they do not need to dedicate time to a more open bandwidth so much for technology when it involves money or real effort and the entire internet world has to suffer so that they can control everything over a simple torrent issue which they do not even have any idea wtf they are actually going to damage because there so busy throwing fax copies like moneys throwing shit in the zoo people are just going to find another system of downloading there FREE files]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way they are just being cheap when they throttle the bandwidth it saves them money electrical power and upgrade time and support costs this includes security its easy to watch a slow network not really a joke but Comcast seems to think so  since they do not need to dedicate time to a more open bandwidth so much for technology when it involves money or real effort and the entire internet world has to suffer so that they can control everything over a simple torrent issue which they do not even have any idea wtf they are actually going to damage because there so busy throwing fax copies like moneys throwing shit in the zoo people are just going to find another system of downloading there FREE files</p>
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		<title>By: linux user</title>
		<link>/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637463</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[linux user]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this is so retarded considering the isp throttle has been shoving torrent users around  for awhile but it will deny and directly effect Linux because it is a main form of file protocol a lot of important files for the o/s run use torrents run upgrade or install host software locally and to free there own websites bandwidth another words those bloody assholes will b able to impede my and other windows/mac/alternative computer operating systems from functioning properly never mind the downloads can u say lawsuits maybe i want to download upgrades for ubuntu9.10 or maybe i would like to populate a list for  the open source freeware and download the necessary programs or drivers to partition or hear my music these things do not infringe on anyone that is perfectly legal money grubbing bastards ....no one even thinks of this???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is so retarded considering the isp throttle has been shoving torrent users around  for awhile but it will deny and directly effect Linux because it is a main form of file protocol a lot of important files for the o/s run use torrents run upgrade or install host software locally and to free there own websites bandwidth another words those bloody assholes will b able to impede my and other windows/mac/alternative computer operating systems from functioning properly never mind the downloads can u say lawsuits maybe i want to download upgrades for ubuntu9.10 or maybe i would like to populate a list for  the open source freeware and download the necessary programs or drivers to partition or hear my music these things do not infringe on anyone that is perfectly legal money grubbing bastards &#8230;.no one even thinks of this???</p>
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		<title>By: anonino</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do you programatically determine unlawful content?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you programatically determine unlawful content?</p>
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