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	<title>Comments on: Newzbin2 Uses TOR To Kill Domain Blocking Before It Even Happens</title>
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		<title>By: herrblau</title>
		<link>/newzbin-uses-tor-to-stop-domain-blocking-before-it-even-happens-110327/#comment-782923</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[herrblau]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 22:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[using bittorrent over tor isn&#039;t safe, and it can also compromise your other tor activities see https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>using bittorrent over tor isn&#8217;t safe, and it can also compromise your other tor activities see <a href="https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea" rel="nofollow">https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea</a> </p>
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		<title>By: lol</title>
		<link>/newzbin-uses-tor-to-stop-domain-blocking-before-it-even-happens-110327/#comment-781324</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 12:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Email Ed Vaizey, and tell him domain blocking will NOT work! He&#039;s the man behind the UK&#039;s plans to block ThePirateBay.

vaizeye@parliament.uk
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Email Ed Vaizey, and tell him domain blocking will NOT work! He&#8217;s the man behind the UK&#8217;s plans to block ThePirateBay.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:vaizeye@parliament.uk">vaizeye@parliament.uk</a></p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>/newzbin-uses-tor-to-stop-domain-blocking-before-it-even-happens-110327/#comment-780906</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TOR if you don&#039;t care how long it takes]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOR if you don&#8217;t care how long it takes</p>
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		<title>By: Arancaytar</title>
		<link>/newzbin-uses-tor-to-stop-domain-blocking-before-it-even-happens-110327/#comment-780839</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arancaytar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t even get where Young is going with this. Is he claiming that the government might use and support Tor in order to use it for anonymity? Well, yes; Tor is anonymity software and you can&#039;t publically provide anonymity software while simultaneously restricting access to entities you dislike. If the government uses Tor, this is a good thing because they cannot do that and simultaneously impede or harm it. The benefit of individual citizens securely communicating online infinitely outweighs the cost of the government also doing so, particularly in view of last year&#039;s Wikileaks disclosures being entirely unimpeded by the availability of Tor to the government.

Or is he claiming that there is a backdoor in the publically available source code because the original invention comes from declassified military research, without being able to show evidence? Because that kind of claim is on a level with 9/11 &quot;truth&quot;, the birther movement and creationism.

While I rarely take Young at his word, I usually took him seriously so far, even when his words sounded paranoid. However, it&#039;s hard to do so while reading this, because the reasoning seems to run counter to the foundations of mathematics and science. If a theorem or algorithm is proven to be correct, then it is correct irrespective of its origin.

Onion Routing and tor have known flaws when improperly used, which its developers consistently warn about. However, the concept and implementation are publicly documented. Any criticism of tor&#039;s integrity must come either show evidence from its public source code or from cryptological evaluation. Attacking it based on the origin of the research is disingenuous, fallacious and dishonest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t even get where Young is going with this. Is he claiming that the government might use and support Tor in order to use it for anonymity? Well, yes; Tor is anonymity software and you can&#8217;t publically provide anonymity software while simultaneously restricting access to entities you dislike. If the government uses Tor, this is a good thing because they cannot do that and simultaneously impede or harm it. The benefit of individual citizens securely communicating online infinitely outweighs the cost of the government also doing so, particularly in view of last year&#8217;s Wikileaks disclosures being entirely unimpeded by the availability of Tor to the government.</p>
<p>Or is he claiming that there is a backdoor in the publically available source code because the original invention comes from declassified military research, without being able to show evidence? Because that kind of claim is on a level with 9/11 &#8220;truth&#8221;, the birther movement and creationism.</p>
<p>While I rarely take Young at his word, I usually took him seriously so far, even when his words sounded paranoid. However, it&#8217;s hard to do so while reading this, because the reasoning seems to run counter to the foundations of mathematics and science. If a theorem or algorithm is proven to be correct, then it is correct irrespective of its origin.</p>
<p>Onion Routing and tor have known flaws when improperly used, which its developers consistently warn about. However, the concept and implementation are publicly documented. Any criticism of tor&#8217;s integrity must come either show evidence from its public source code or from cryptological evaluation. Attacking it based on the origin of the research is disingenuous, fallacious and dishonest.</p>
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		<title>By: R00ted</title>
		<link>/newzbin-uses-tor-to-stop-domain-blocking-before-it-even-happens-110327/#comment-780631</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R00ted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only weakness I can see, would be going after the domain name itself.....

.tor2web.org

Or.......pressuring .tor2web.org to &quot;give up&quot; the secure service at that address......

Direct IP address navigation for the win? :P

Sure, this makes one step more secure......but how secure really?

They can still go after each host along the route to .tor2web.org and get the route shutdown/blocked.....

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only weakness I can see, would be going after the domain name itself&#8230;..</p>
<p>.tor2web.org</p>
<p>Or&#8230;&#8230;.pressuring .tor2web.org to &#8220;give up&#8221; the secure service at that address&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Direct IP address navigation for the win? :P</p>
<p>Sure, this makes one step more secure&#8230;&#8230;but how secure really?</p>
<p>They can still go after each host along the route to .tor2web.org and get the route shutdown/blocked&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Troll Basher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Troll Basher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, look at all the trolls in this thread! If the trolls want to believe something that&#039;s incorrect, let them. Why would you want to educate a troll? That&#039;s dangerous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, look at all the trolls in this thread! If the trolls want to believe something that&#8217;s incorrect, let them. Why would you want to educate a troll? That&#8217;s dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Mieux vaut Tor que jamais</title>
		<link>/newzbin-uses-tor-to-stop-domain-blocking-before-it-even-happens-110327/#comment-780477</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mieux vaut Tor que jamais]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] [Source et photo] [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Tor fue creado por el gobierno de EE.UU como herramienta de c&#243;digo abierto para el espionaje. &#124; RocKdrigoMusiC.net</title>
		<link>/newzbin-uses-tor-to-stop-domain-blocking-before-it-even-happens-110327/#comment-780446</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tor fue creado por el gobierno de EE.UU como herramienta de c&#243;digo abierto para el espionaje. &#124; RocKdrigoMusiC.net]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 05:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] navegación anónima evitando (hasta el caso de Irán) la identificación de los usuarios. Incluso el indexador de Usenet Newzbin 2 se encuentra en fase de implantación para evitar la censura. Es por esto que el valor de una [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] navegación anónima evitando (hasta el caso de Irán) la identificación de los usuarios. Incluso el indexador de Usenet Newzbin 2 se encuentra en fase de implantación para evitar la censura. Es por esto que el valor de una [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Borderliner</title>
		<link>/newzbin-uses-tor-to-stop-domain-blocking-before-it-even-happens-110327/#comment-780251</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Borderliner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing is certain - if they use the benefits the network provides, then the right thing to do is give a little back to the network. In this case - set up a server or two to provide bandwith for Tor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing is certain &#8211; if they use the benefits the network provides, then the right thing to do is give a little back to the network. In this case &#8211; set up a server or two to provide bandwith for Tor.</p>
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		<title>By: Scary Devil Monastery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scary Devil Monastery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My my...we could assume you&#039;re just a troll but for the benefit of the sane readership:

Intellectual Property ceases to exist in any civilization which has access to mass communication. It&#039;s that simple. And any civilization where the market allows, for example, Rebecca Black to earn a cool million iTunes sales of a song which cost 2000 to record, or where Trent reznor can sell a million copies of an album he already gave away for free, your comparison to parasitism fails.

However, i will yield to you on one point - idiots clinging to the horse-and-cart business model in an age of automobiles will no doubt perish.

And that is a good thing.

So, &quot;Bob&quot;, with any luck there should still be an opening in the line for the homelessshelter. I&#039;d advise you get in line now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My my&#8230;we could assume you&#8217;re just a troll but for the benefit of the sane readership:</p>
<p>Intellectual Property ceases to exist in any civilization which has access to mass communication. It&#8217;s that simple. And any civilization where the market allows, for example, Rebecca Black to earn a cool million iTunes sales of a song which cost 2000 to record, or where Trent reznor can sell a million copies of an album he already gave away for free, your comparison to parasitism fails.</p>
<p>However, i will yield to you on one point &#8211; idiots clinging to the horse-and-cart business model in an age of automobiles will no doubt perish.</p>
<p>And that is a good thing.</p>
<p>So, &#8220;Bob&#8221;, with any luck there should still be an opening in the line for the homelessshelter. I&#8217;d advise you get in line now.</p>
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