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		<title>By: Global Geek News Podcast #47 &#124; Global Geek News</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Global Geek News Podcast #47 &#124; Global Geek News]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Anti-piracy group to DRM breaker:  OK to break the law [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Anti-piracy group to DRM breaker:  OK to break the law [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DyscultureD Podcast Episode #60 is now live! &#171; Andrew Currie on WordPress</title>
		<link>/o-break-the-law-091203/#comment-625434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DyscultureD Podcast Episode #60 is now live! &#171; Andrew Currie on WordPress]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the usual suspects are present as topics for discussion, including the CRTC, fair use and Facebook. We also take some pot shots at the city of Edmonton just for [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the usual suspects are present as topics for discussion, including the CRTC, fair use and Facebook. We also take some pot shots at the city of Edmonton just for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/o-break-the-law-091203/#comment-623248</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What if I buy a DVD, and thus the right to watch its content.

Now suppose I invite you to my house, and we watch that DVD together.

Have I not effectively &quot;distributed&quot; the content to you, since your memory will now be one that has seen the movie, the songs might run through your head, and things you see or hear in life can now recall to you scenes and bits of dialogue from the movie?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if I buy a DVD, and thus the right to watch its content.</p>
<p>Now suppose I invite you to my house, and we watch that DVD together.</p>
<p>Have I not effectively &#8220;distributed&#8221; the content to you, since your memory will now be one that has seen the movie, the songs might run through your head, and things you see or hear in life can now recall to you scenes and bits of dialogue from the movie?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>/o-break-the-law-091203/#comment-622989</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Try www.torrenttree.com. Don&#039;t let the government slow down your torrent use just by shutting down Mininova. Just search multiple sites from one location.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try <a href="http://www.torrenttree.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.torrenttree.com</a>. Don&#8217;t let the government slow down your torrent use just by shutting down Mininova. Just search multiple sites from one location.</p>
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		<title>By: N0b0dy</title>
		<link>/o-break-the-law-091203/#comment-622642</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[N0b0dy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and people are surprised?

seriously, modern copyright laws being  put into place are not rigid.  

modern copyright policy is designed for one-way flexibility. It empowers the rights holders to &quot;decide&quot; what is considered covered under the legislation, within the baseline boundaries in which it was created. There is absolutly no consistancy, and the consumers have to do whatever the other party decides, with no basic rights to the same flexibility as the other party. It is simply put, an unfair advantage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and people are surprised?</p>
<p>seriously, modern copyright laws being  put into place are not rigid.  </p>
<p>modern copyright policy is designed for one-way flexibility. It empowers the rights holders to &#8220;decide&#8221; what is considered covered under the legislation, within the baseline boundaries in which it was created. There is absolutly no consistancy, and the consumers have to do whatever the other party decides, with no basic rights to the same flexibility as the other party. It is simply put, an unfair advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: xyz</title>
		<link>/o-break-the-law-091203/#comment-622611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xyz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 10:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The copyright holders don&#039;t want to allow personal copying, but they know that disallowing personal backups is unpalatable for some so they disguise the ban with this &quot;anti-circumvention&quot; nonsense.

The same thing is true in the US. In theory libraries and other educational institutions have the legal right to make copies of digital works for archival and other purposes, but they don&#039;t have the right to circumvent the copy protection so they can actually copy the works. 

An interesting challenge would be to start a service that converts media sent to them to any format the customer wants. You send them a DVD, they send you a XviD.

Or console modding, so people can play copied games. I bet you&#039;re not allowed to sell mod chips, but you are apparently allowed to backup your games.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The copyright holders don&#8217;t want to allow personal copying, but they know that disallowing personal backups is unpalatable for some so they disguise the ban with this &#8220;anti-circumvention&#8221; nonsense.</p>
<p>The same thing is true in the US. In theory libraries and other educational institutions have the legal right to make copies of digital works for archival and other purposes, but they don&#8217;t have the right to circumvent the copy protection so they can actually copy the works. </p>
<p>An interesting challenge would be to start a service that converts media sent to them to any format the customer wants. You send them a DVD, they send you a XviD.</p>
<p>Or console modding, so people can play copied games. I bet you&#8217;re not allowed to sell mod chips, but you are apparently allowed to backup your games.</p>
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		<title>By: 1234566</title>
		<link>/o-break-the-law-091203/#comment-622604</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1234566]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have a lot of nice boots on our website: http://www.uggnetshop.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a lot of nice boots on our website: <a href="http://www.uggnetshop.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.uggnetshop.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ninja</title>
		<link>/o-break-the-law-091203/#comment-622518</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ninja]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why push DRM shit on the consumers then? I mean, it just annoys the hell out of us and the ones that want to distribute it to 3rd parties will do it anyway....

Fail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why push DRM shit on the consumers then? I mean, it just annoys the hell out of us and the ones that want to distribute it to 3rd parties will do it anyway&#8230;.</p>
<p>Fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler from USA</title>
		<link>/o-break-the-law-091203/#comment-622485</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyler from USA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@oldman
Watch this space:
http://turnyourselfin2010.org]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@oldman<br />
Watch this space:<br />
<a href="http://turnyourselfin2010.org" rel="nofollow">http://turnyourselfin2010.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Borderliner</title>
		<link>/o-break-the-law-091203/#comment-622455</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Borderliner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...which is the whole problem: eighter enforce the existing law or change it so there would be no need to enforce it. Why forbid something if those for whom it&#039;s forbidden openly say that it&#039;s not needed? The only thing we get from this exactly the same confusion we have now.

I personally believe such a law is kept in place as a backdoor which allows (additional) accusations against suspects. Because it doesn&#039;t matter that your computer was confiscated, let&#039;s say, as a part of a drugraid, what matters is that there are DRM-broken materials on the PC. And even if no evidence is found about you being a druglord they still have your machine that is full of illegal stuff so they can smack you with that. Not as hard as they would have for drugtrafficing, but still.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;which is the whole problem: eighter enforce the existing law or change it so there would be no need to enforce it. Why forbid something if those for whom it&#8217;s forbidden openly say that it&#8217;s not needed? The only thing we get from this exactly the same confusion we have now.</p>
<p>I personally believe such a law is kept in place as a backdoor which allows (additional) accusations against suspects. Because it doesn&#8217;t matter that your computer was confiscated, let&#8217;s say, as a part of a drugraid, what matters is that there are DRM-broken materials on the PC. And even if no evidence is found about you being a druglord they still have your machine that is full of illegal stuff so they can smack you with that. Not as hard as they would have for drugtrafficing, but still.</p>
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