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		<title>By: Scary_Devil_Monastery</title>
		<link>/parents-not-responsible-for-their-teenagers-music-piracy-121116/#comment-999202</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 09:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not everyone sits on 50-100 Mbit/sec like me. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not everyone sits on 50-100 Mbit/sec like me. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Scary_Devil_Monastery</title>
		<link>/parents-not-responsible-for-their-teenagers-music-piracy-121116/#comment-999201</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 09:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The law is quite clear in most nations that you are unable to sign yourself into a responsibility which you are practically incapable of fulfilling.

&lt;b&gt;In most household todays the teen of the house also tends to be the system administrator since the parents don&#039;t know how the computer works.&lt;/b&gt;
(I&#039;m all for teaching adults to use computers and security, btw. In my experience, the ones that can be taught become fairly avid filesharers almost automatically.)

&lt;b&gt;And so, NTP, you are in fact advocating that only adult people with the skillsets to be a system administrator, IT tech support, or a DBA should be legally allowed to subscribe to internet access.&lt;/b&gt;

Much the same way you can not buy a car and without knowing it hold yourself responsible for what the car does if it has been hijacked or stolen.

If you knew anything about IT, once again, you would know this. Since you have claimed expertise and years of experience with IT for four years in a row, your argument simply isn&#039;t sound on any level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The law is quite clear in most nations that you are unable to sign yourself into a responsibility which you are practically incapable of fulfilling.</p>
<p><b>In most household todays the teen of the house also tends to be the system administrator since the parents don&#8217;t know how the computer works.</b><br />
(I&#8217;m all for teaching adults to use computers and security, btw. In my experience, the ones that can be taught become fairly avid filesharers almost automatically.)</p>
<p><b>And so, NTP, you are in fact advocating that only adult people with the skillsets to be a system administrator, IT tech support, or a DBA should be legally allowed to subscribe to internet access.</b></p>
<p>Much the same way you can not buy a car and without knowing it hold yourself responsible for what the car does if it has been hijacked or stolen.</p>
<p>If you knew anything about IT, once again, you would know this. Since you have claimed expertise and years of experience with IT for four years in a row, your argument simply isn&#8217;t sound on any level.</p>
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		<title>By: Scary_Devil_Monastery</title>
		<link>/parents-not-responsible-for-their-teenagers-music-piracy-121116/#comment-998845</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, we have the cheat sheet in hand here.

Senior couples have been sued for &quot;downloading&quot; german gay porn, atari games, and music.

&lt;b&gt;Dead people&lt;/b&gt; have been used in court cases as part of people downloading music.

Peopler who don&#039;t own computers have been receiving extortion letters claiming they downloaded.

And so on. The problem is that the industry has spent a lot of wordwalling burying this avalanche of notices that their method simply doesn&#039;t work.

They won&#039;t ever listen. Ever. So the answer is that the consumers and most of all, voters, do not give them the choice anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, we have the cheat sheet in hand here.</p>
<p>Senior couples have been sued for &#8220;downloading&#8221; german gay porn, atari games, and music.</p>
<p><b>Dead people</b> have been used in court cases as part of people downloading music.</p>
<p>Peopler who don&#8217;t own computers have been receiving extortion letters claiming they downloaded.</p>
<p>And so on. The problem is that the industry has spent a lot of wordwalling burying this avalanche of notices that their method simply doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>They won&#8217;t ever listen. Ever. So the answer is that the consumers and most of all, voters, do not give them the choice anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Scary_Devil_Monastery</title>
		<link>/parents-not-responsible-for-their-teenagers-music-piracy-121116/#comment-998843</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A clear sign that someone&#039;s been spending too much time close to 4chan&#039;s less supervised section there...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A clear sign that someone&#8217;s been spending too much time close to 4chan&#8217;s less supervised section there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scary_Devil_Monastery</title>
		<link>/parents-not-responsible-for-their-teenagers-music-piracy-121116/#comment-998841</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are any number of parents whose &quot;model child&quot; turned out to be a date rapist and a casual hooligan beating people on a regular basis.

The problem is this - as a parent, YOU are NOT the &quot;normal&quot; environment the child emulates. That would be the environment where s/he spends his/her days.

Which is school, or hanging out with their friends. If said friends are mainly crap, that&#039;s how your child turns out as well.

There&#039;s even a biological imperative built right into us that as soon as we hit the teens and approach full maturity, we are compelled to rebel and start cutting the cord in preparation for assuming an independent existence.

So no...you can&#039;t ever take responsibility for your child unless you actually are in full awareness of what the child is doing. And there&#039;s no politician ever lied so much to his constituency as a child lies to their parents come the teens. Usually.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are any number of parents whose &#8220;model child&#8221; turned out to be a date rapist and a casual hooligan beating people on a regular basis.</p>
<p>The problem is this &#8211; as a parent, YOU are NOT the &#8220;normal&#8221; environment the child emulates. That would be the environment where s/he spends his/her days.</p>
<p>Which is school, or hanging out with their friends. If said friends are mainly crap, that&#8217;s how your child turns out as well.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s even a biological imperative built right into us that as soon as we hit the teens and approach full maturity, we are compelled to rebel and start cutting the cord in preparation for assuming an independent existence.</p>
<p>So no&#8230;you can&#8217;t ever take responsibility for your child unless you actually are in full awareness of what the child is doing. And there&#8217;s no politician ever lied so much to his constituency as a child lies to their parents come the teens. Usually.</p>
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		<title>By: Scary_Devil_Monastery</title>
		<link>/parents-not-responsible-for-their-teenagers-music-piracy-121116/#comment-998839</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a civil action it is even more important to ensure that civilians do not take on police powers. Or should be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a civil action it is even more important to ensure that civilians do not take on police powers. Or should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Scary_Devil_Monastery</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the point - you have to realize the point &quot;Anon&quot; comes from (assuming he&#039;s not just trolling while aiming at ruining the rep of the pro-copyright crowd).

And that point is this: If the world at large accepts that ip adresses aren&#039;t valid grounds for a suit &lt;b&gt;some 99% of the legal ground the copyright industry has to stand on falls out from underneath their feet.&lt;/b&gt;

That being the case, anyone sympathetic to the MPAA/RIAA or Ifpi will be out in force, grasping any argument what so ever as long as it can retain the concept that an ip-holder should be held accountable by law.

Because if that bastion can not be held, copyright &lt;b&gt;can not in reality be enforced anymore&lt;/b&gt;. That bastion just cracked wide open in Germany.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the point &#8211; you have to realize the point &#8220;Anon&#8221; comes from (assuming he&#8217;s not just trolling while aiming at ruining the rep of the pro-copyright crowd).</p>
<p>And that point is this: If the world at large accepts that ip adresses aren&#8217;t valid grounds for a suit <b>some 99% of the legal ground the copyright industry has to stand on falls out from underneath their feet.</b></p>
<p>That being the case, anyone sympathetic to the MPAA/RIAA or Ifpi will be out in force, grasping any argument what so ever as long as it can retain the concept that an ip-holder should be held accountable by law.</p>
<p>Because if that bastion can not be held, copyright <b>can not in reality be enforced anymore</b>. That bastion just cracked wide open in Germany.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] According to TorrentFreak, the record companies argued in court that the parents could be held responsible for their child&#8217;s action because they didn&#8217;t fulfill their parental obligations. By that, the plaintiffs meant that the parents didn&#8217;t do enough to educate and monitor their child in the first place, which led to the aforementioned uploading of songs. The District Court agreed with the record companies and ordered the couple to pay €5,380. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] According to TorrentFreak, the record companies argued in court that the parents could be held responsible for their child&#8217;s action because they didn&#8217;t fulfill their parental obligations. By that, the plaintiffs meant that the parents didn&#8217;t do enough to educate and monitor their child in the first place, which led to the aforementioned uploading of songs. The District Court agreed with the record companies and ordered the couple to pay €5,380. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Should Parents Be Held Responsible For Their Child’s Online Behavior? &#124; LocalSearchMoz.Com</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] According to TorrentFreak, the record companies argued in court that the parents could be held responsible for their child&#8217;s action because they didn&#8217;t fulfill their parental obligations. By that, the plaintiffs meant that the parents didn&#8217;t do enough to educate and monitor their child in the first place, which led to the aforementioned uploading of songs. The District Court agreed with the record companies and ordered the couple to pay €5,380. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] According to TorrentFreak, the record companies argued in court that the parents could be held responsible for their child&#8217;s action because they didn&#8217;t fulfill their parental obligations. By that, the plaintiffs meant that the parents didn&#8217;t do enough to educate and monitor their child in the first place, which led to the aforementioned uploading of songs. The District Court agreed with the record companies and ordered the couple to pay €5,380. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Parents Not Responsible For Their Teenager&#039;s Music Piracy &#8230; &#124; The Child Defense Software</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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