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		<title>By: robthom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[robthom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2014 03:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its only a fashionable modern trend for every plain old fashioned tyranny to label themselves as a freedom loving democracy through controlling the access to information and a carefully orchestrated media.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its only a fashionable modern trend for every plain old fashioned tyranny to label themselves as a freedom loving democracy through controlling the access to information and a carefully orchestrated media.</p>
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		<title>By: Goblin Openbytes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Goblin Openbytes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Have these people for one moment thought&quot;

No.  That&#039;s the problem, they don&#039;t think. Every time they get permission to speak in public from their Hollywood superiors they spout the nonsense Fyfe has.  License for websites? What, planet wide or just the UK? If they can&#039;t &quot;police&quot; what they have now then what hope is there to introduce yet another scheme?



The worrying thing is, the UK government would take no convincing about Website Licenses.....just think of the revenues.....and fines for those not following the rules...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Have these people for one moment thought&#8221;</p>
<p>No.  That&#8217;s the problem, they don&#8217;t think. Every time they get permission to speak in public from their Hollywood superiors they spout the nonsense Fyfe has.  License for websites? What, planet wide or just the UK? If they can&#8217;t &#8220;police&#8221; what they have now then what hope is there to introduce yet another scheme?</p>
<p>The worrying thing is, the UK government would take no convincing about Website Licenses&#8230;..just think of the revenues&#8230;..and fines for those not following the rules&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Oblong of Orange</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oblong of Orange]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2014 15:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. There are no lost revenues.
2. The Chinese do not give one fuck about Western IP laws.
3. Piracy laws were invented to support a government-imposed industrial monopoly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. There are no lost revenues.<br />
2. The Chinese do not give one fuck about Western IP laws.<br />
3. Piracy laws were invented to support a government-imposed industrial monopoly.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricardo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ricardo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2014 19:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This could mean that not everyone is allowed to launch a website, but that a license would be required, for example.&quot; WTFFFFF??????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This could mean that not everyone is allowed to launch a website, but that a license would be required, for example.&#8221; WTFFFFF??????</p>
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		<title>By: Scary_Devil_Monastery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scary_Devil_Monastery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 09:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Wishing to sell ones products and not wanting their product outside of that realm is information control?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Preventing people from communicating is indeed information control. Wishing to SELL is another issue entirely and quite unrelated. Since you can not enforce copyright where individual communication is concerned, that part of your business model is out the window in the same manner as the stagecoach drivers in the 18th century when the automobile came along.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Exactly how is one suppose to make a living online? In &lt;strike&gt;your&lt;/strike&gt; &lt;b&gt;the real&lt;/b&gt; world, nothing would have a price tag online.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

FTFY

If you want to control information you have only two choices - keep the information secret or remove all means of communicating it. No other options exist.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Your mindset is considerably corrupt and&#124;or you are such a freeloader that you aren&#039;t able to fathom what it means to financially maintain ones livelihood.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

If your &quot;livelihood&quot; is that of a 16th-century priest complaining that the printing press is putting all the monastery scribes out of business then yes, I have little sympathy for it. In my world you get paid for work you&#039;ve just done, not repeatedly for the same work you did yesterday. Your argument is like that of a plumber insisting he ought to be paid every time someone flushes the toilet he fixed. Given your prior arguments I&#039;ll take your opinion of my mindset as high praise.


I earn quite a lot of money every month by being a very successful analyst, so I&#039;m afraid your wishful thinking that i don&#039;t know how business works will have to remain just a figment of your imagination.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;You obviously have no respect for ones talents in which brings about a given product. Rather, you rape its very existence by considering it a gift to your kind, rather then a product.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

First you advocate amputation as a suitable penalty for making a copy, and now you compare the act to rape...I wish I could say that was low, even for a copyright cultist, but the hyperbole is unfortunately entirely within expectation.

And the only thing you undermine with those assertions is the opinion everyone else has of you upon reading what you&#039;ve written. Hope someone is at least paying you something for putting down such nonsense.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;One key element that plays in the minds of those that are religious fanatics is that they are incapable of reason. Such as yourself.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;


Of the two of us the only one thinking there&#039;s some magical difference between information of type X and information of type Y is you. In the real world it doesn&#039;t work that way, &lt;b&gt;irrespective&lt;/b&gt; of your belief that you can magically separate the two without breaking the internet far worse than even China has.


&quot;My&quot; kind has predicted how this will pan out since the days of napster. So far we&#039;ve always been correct. Your kind relies on wishful thinking and distinctions which aren&#039;t there other than in your own imagination - and you&#039;ve been dead wrong every time you made a statement. For all that time.


Reason, logic, and empirical fact pans out to the pirate view. Your arguments were dead and buried in much the same way marxism was. That is the core of the religious fanatic - the inability to conform their views to how the world actually works.


Go right on denying empirical fact and real knowledge. You do us pirates a good service every time you bark up the wrong tree and call for impossibilities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Wishing to sell ones products and not wanting their product outside of that realm is information control?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Preventing people from communicating is indeed information control. Wishing to SELL is another issue entirely and quite unrelated. Since you can not enforce copyright where individual communication is concerned, that part of your business model is out the window in the same manner as the stagecoach drivers in the 18th century when the automobile came along.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Exactly how is one suppose to make a living online? In <strike>your</strike> <b>the real</b> world, nothing would have a price tag online.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>FTFY</p>
<p>If you want to control information you have only two choices &#8211; keep the information secret or remove all means of communicating it. No other options exist.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Your mindset is considerably corrupt and|or you are such a freeloader that you aren&#8217;t able to fathom what it means to financially maintain ones livelihood.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>If your &#8220;livelihood&#8221; is that of a 16th-century priest complaining that the printing press is putting all the monastery scribes out of business then yes, I have little sympathy for it. In my world you get paid for work you&#8217;ve just done, not repeatedly for the same work you did yesterday. Your argument is like that of a plumber insisting he ought to be paid every time someone flushes the toilet he fixed. Given your prior arguments I&#8217;ll take your opinion of my mindset as high praise.</p>
<p>I earn quite a lot of money every month by being a very successful analyst, so I&#8217;m afraid your wishful thinking that i don&#8217;t know how business works will have to remain just a figment of your imagination.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;You obviously have no respect for ones talents in which brings about a given product. Rather, you rape its very existence by considering it a gift to your kind, rather then a product.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>First you advocate amputation as a suitable penalty for making a copy, and now you compare the act to rape&#8230;I wish I could say that was low, even for a copyright cultist, but the hyperbole is unfortunately entirely within expectation.</p>
<p>And the only thing you undermine with those assertions is the opinion everyone else has of you upon reading what you&#8217;ve written. Hope someone is at least paying you something for putting down such nonsense.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;One key element that plays in the minds of those that are religious fanatics is that they are incapable of reason. Such as yourself.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Of the two of us the only one thinking there&#8217;s some magical difference between information of type X and information of type Y is you. In the real world it doesn&#8217;t work that way, <b>irrespective</b> of your belief that you can magically separate the two without breaking the internet far worse than even China has.</p>
<p>&#8220;My&#8221; kind has predicted how this will pan out since the days of napster. So far we&#8217;ve always been correct. Your kind relies on wishful thinking and distinctions which aren&#8217;t there other than in your own imagination &#8211; and you&#8217;ve been dead wrong every time you made a statement. For all that time.</p>
<p>Reason, logic, and empirical fact pans out to the pirate view. Your arguments were dead and buried in much the same way marxism was. That is the core of the religious fanatic &#8211; the inability to conform their views to how the world actually works.</p>
<p>Go right on denying empirical fact and real knowledge. You do us pirates a good service every time you bark up the wrong tree and call for impossibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: JamieA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JamieA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps you should mention The US Supreme Court ruling (the actual name of case i cannot recall at moment) where they stated in their ruling that it wasn&#039;t theft of property nor was it stealing of property and neither was it depriving the original owner of their property as the person (the one claiming theft of their property) was still in actual possession of the property and they wasn&#039;t deprived of their property either and it wasn&#039;t theft of copyright either as the owner of the copyright was still in possession of their copyright and neither were they deprived of their copyright.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you should mention The US Supreme Court ruling (the actual name of case i cannot recall at moment) where they stated in their ruling that it wasn&#8217;t theft of property nor was it stealing of property and neither was it depriving the original owner of their property as the person (the one claiming theft of their property) was still in actual possession of the property and they wasn&#8217;t deprived of their property either and it wasn&#8217;t theft of copyright either as the owner of the copyright was still in possession of their copyright and neither were they deprived of their copyright.</p>
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		<title>By: ktetch</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It sounds like, then, your products offer no benefit to buying them, and almost certainly a negative.

&quot;This is thievery. Yes. It is. You are stealing ones profits for your own personal gain.&quot;
The same can be said of competition. It&#039;s not stealing to take something you don&#039;t have but think you should, else every other failed busines owner can scream theft too..

The whole &#039;theft&#039; thing is an attempt to appeal to emotions through lies. It&#039;s not what the law says, and every court has been pretty clear on that, despite your feeling of entitlement.
So no more bull about &#039;its theft&#039; ok? It&#039;s not, never has been, and more claims that it is will now be treated as trolling, and deleted with the rest of the spam, ok?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like, then, your products offer no benefit to buying them, and almost certainly a negative.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is thievery. Yes. It is. You are stealing ones profits for your own personal gain.&#8221;<br />
The same can be said of competition. It&#8217;s not stealing to take something you don&#8217;t have but think you should, else every other failed busines owner can scream theft too..</p>
<p>The whole &#8216;theft&#8217; thing is an attempt to appeal to emotions through lies. It&#8217;s not what the law says, and every court has been pretty clear on that, despite your feeling of entitlement.<br />
So no more bull about &#8216;its theft&#8217; ok? It&#8217;s not, never has been, and more claims that it is will now be treated as trolling, and deleted with the rest of the spam, ok?</p>
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		<title>By: US_Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[US_Citizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excuse me? Wishing to sell ones products and not wanting their product outside of that realm is information control?
Exactly how is one suppose to make a living online? In your world, nothing would have a price tag online.
Your mindset is considerably corrupt and&#124;or you are such a freeloader that you aren&#039;t able to fathom what it means to financially maintain ones livelihood.

You obviously have no respect for ones talents in which brings about a given product. Rather, you rape its very existence by considering it a gift to your kind, rather then a product. Clown? Ironic, isn&#039;t it :)

Speaking of religious fanatics. One key element that plays in the minds of those that are religious fanatics is that they are incapable of reason. Such as yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me? Wishing to sell ones products and not wanting their product outside of that realm is information control?<br />
Exactly how is one suppose to make a living online? In your world, nothing would have a price tag online.<br />
Your mindset is considerably corrupt and|or you are such a freeloader that you aren&#8217;t able to fathom what it means to financially maintain ones livelihood.</p>
<p>You obviously have no respect for ones talents in which brings about a given product. Rather, you rape its very existence by considering it a gift to your kind, rather then a product. Clown? Ironic, isn&#8217;t it :)</p>
<p>Speaking of religious fanatics. One key element that plays in the minds of those that are religious fanatics is that they are incapable of reason. Such as yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Scary_Devil_Monastery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scary_Devil_Monastery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 08:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;I totally disagree with how the Chinese Government monitors their citizens and forces them to adhere to certain ideals. I am all for free speech. What I am against, is a artist or whomever that is creating a product which they have not only spent a great deal of (money) in 
producing but...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

And that rant of yours is why I insist there&#039;s no way you could work in anything IT-related. Information is information. Control of information is information control.

Whether it&#039;s the chinese government opposing someone distributing information they don&#039;t want distributed or it&#039;s a private party &lt;b&gt;it&#039;s all one and the same thing.&lt;/b&gt; The one and only way to keep information from being spread is by initially ensuring that information is kept a secret. Or by removing all venues of communication.

Anything else you have to say about that boils down to something akin to claiming it&#039;s unfair that gravity works the same on living people as on inanimate objects.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;And, then comes the torrenter&#039;s taking these products and in turn distribute this product at a massive scale...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;Any individual &quot;torrenter&quot; distributes, at most, a copy to three-six other people on average&lt;/b&gt;. That&#039;s how torrents work. Meaning there&#039;s no one performing any form of &quot;massive distribution&quot;. Your beef, again, is with any communications network which works efficiently. Once again it boils down to freedom to communicate and nothing else.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I personally would like to lock-in a download per eye-scan. Once torrenters have re-engineered that, the left arm, right leg or ones head would do... Got to survive man! Pay the bills! So off with your head!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;


And the troll reveals himself. Not even China or Syria ever even touched on legislation that far-fetched...
...and suffice to say not even the gibbering insane would suggest &lt;b&gt;re-engineering and rebuilding every tech industry in the world along with all the infrastructure, according to guidelines lifted from the STASI handbook.&lt;/b&gt;


The religious fanatics from the copyright cult might. And there they&#039;re just in the same page with a third-rate forum troll trawling for shitz&#039;n&#039;giggles.


I think we&#039;re done here. Your game is up, clown.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I totally disagree with how the Chinese Government monitors their citizens and forces them to adhere to certain ideals. I am all for free speech. What I am against, is a artist or whomever that is creating a product which they have not only spent a great deal of (money) in<br />
producing but&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>And that rant of yours is why I insist there&#8217;s no way you could work in anything IT-related. Information is information. Control of information is information control.</p>
<p>Whether it&#8217;s the chinese government opposing someone distributing information they don&#8217;t want distributed or it&#8217;s a private party <b>it&#8217;s all one and the same thing.</b> The one and only way to keep information from being spread is by initially ensuring that information is kept a secret. Or by removing all venues of communication.</p>
<p>Anything else you have to say about that boils down to something akin to claiming it&#8217;s unfair that gravity works the same on living people as on inanimate objects.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;And, then comes the torrenter&#8217;s taking these products and in turn distribute this product at a massive scale&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p><b>Any individual &#8220;torrenter&#8221; distributes, at most, a copy to three-six other people on average</b>. That&#8217;s how torrents work. Meaning there&#8217;s no one performing any form of &#8220;massive distribution&#8221;. Your beef, again, is with any communications network which works efficiently. Once again it boils down to freedom to communicate and nothing else.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I personally would like to lock-in a download per eye-scan. Once torrenters have re-engineered that, the left arm, right leg or ones head would do&#8230; Got to survive man! Pay the bills! So off with your head!&#8221;</i></p>
<p>And the troll reveals himself. Not even China or Syria ever even touched on legislation that far-fetched&#8230;<br />
&#8230;and suffice to say not even the gibbering insane would suggest <b>re-engineering and rebuilding every tech industry in the world along with all the infrastructure, according to guidelines lifted from the STASI handbook.</b></p>
<p>The religious fanatics from the copyright cult might. And there they&#8217;re just in the same page with a third-rate forum troll trawling for shitz&#8217;n&#8217;giggles.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re done here. Your game is up, clown.</p>
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		<title>By: Interessante Links und Nachrichten 30.09.2014ff - Pirat Aleks A.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Interessante Links und Nachrichten 30.09.2014ff - Pirat Aleks A.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2014 18:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Altes Buch zum Internet zum Frühstück gehabt? &#8220;Piracy Police Chief Calls For State Interference to Stop Internet Anarchy&#8221; <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/piracy-police-chief-calls-for-state-interference-to-stop-internet-anarchy-14&#038;#8230" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/piracy-police-chief-calls-for-state-interference-to-stop-internet-anarchy-14&#038;#8230</a>; [&#8230;]</p>
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