“their bandwidth/hard drive for something else. They stop seeding”
->
“their bandwidth/hard drive for something else, but because”

“I know people with who”
->
“I know people who”

“people like you, who do whatever is within their power to seed end up being hurt by ratio systems,”
->
“people who do whatever is within their power to seed despite limited resources (like you), end up being hurt by ratio systems”

Sorry, but my grammar OCD compels me to correct my mistakes.

Should be:

“@43: A small pipe may not be able”

I agree that it is more important to seed the under-seeded swarms than the well-seeded ones. But I think *the* most important thing is ensuring that you are utilizing as much of your upstream bandwidth as possible. No need to stop seeding a well-seeded torrent if you aren’t going to be putting that bandwidth to use elsewhere. Same thing with hard drive space: don’t delete unless you need the space.

Now, you ARE fully utilizing your bandwidth and you DO need the space, so that’s fine. But most people I know stop seeding a torrent not because they want to use their bandwidth/hard drive for something else. They stop seeding because they think they’ve tried *enough*. I know people with who, even though they have a 50mb/s uplink (college lol), stop seeding as soon as they get the chance, even though they still have the file on their computer and have plenty of spare bandwidth. Or they delete the files even though they have 500GB of free space on their hard drive. It’s as if they find seeding to be a *chore*, something which they must weasel their way out of at all costs.

So while yes, people like you, who do whatever is within their power to seed end up being hurt by ratio systems, those same systems do wonders when it comes to keeping people liked the ones I described in check. And the latter group far outnumbers the former, unfortunately.

With a small pipe you can never compete with a seedbox. It’s even worse when you have a small pipe and you have to share your connection.

I will rarely seed out to 1:1 on a well seeded torrent. I concentrate my bandwidth on underseeded torrents. My rule is if the torrent has 10 or more seeds I remove it from the queue and leave the torrents that have under 10, and seed them out until they get over 10 seeds.

I feel it’s pointless to waste what little bandwidth I have on a large swarm. It’s much better to build up the little swarms.

In the end though when it comes to ratio’s, it’s just more elitist crap. If I want to go on a “downloading spree” whats it to you in the end. If I want to use a ratioed tracker and a non-ratioed, now I’m really screwed because every byte I upload on the non-ratioed isn’t going to be counted?

Everyone has hit and run, it’s pointless getting your panties all in a bunch about it and imposing draconian ratio restrictions that if not met will result in a ban. A quarter of the files I download I watch and delete in a day or two. I don’t have the hard drive space to keep and seed them, and most of them aren’t worth the bandwidth anyway, hence the reason they end up in the digital round file.

In the end it’s all a moot point. Internet 2 is on the way. That will seriously put a damper on p2p, or any other freedom on the internets.

If you don’t fuck up and go on downloading sprees while your new on a tracker those seedboxes won’t have an effect on you, on the contrary, you’ll *love* the constant fast download speeds.

Favourite quote from a forum on one of those trackers: “I bet the author is on ratio watch”. Nuff said.