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		<title>By: Parliamentary Comms Group Says ‘No’ to UK 3-Strikes &#124; CyberLaw Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Parliamentary Comms Group Says ‘No’ to UK 3-Strikes &#124; CyberLaw Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Motion from a member of Lord Mandelson’s own party, and more recently ISPs have talked about the futility of the suggested [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Proposed Anti-Piracy Legislation is Flawed, ISP Says &#124; Gadget Mania Gadgets and Gadget News</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Duh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Duh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...First and foremost the content industry must develop new business models to make content more easily available and more affordable...&quot;

Cutting ties with record sellers and DIY selling should be the first move.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;First and foremost the content industry must develop new business models to make content more easily available and more affordable&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Cutting ties with record sellers and DIY selling should be the first move.</p>
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		<title>By: Parliamentary Comms Group Says ‘No’ to UK 3-Strikes @ blog.idtorrent.org</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Parliamentary Comms Group Says ‘No’ to UK 3-Strikes @ blog.idtorrent.org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] from a member of Lord Mandelson&#8217;s own party, and more recently ISPs have talked about the futility of the suggested [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Proposed Anti-Piracy Legislation is Flawed, ISP Says : Porn Newz - Adult Industry News, Events &#38; Articles</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ISP británico comprueba los problemas de la Ley antipiratería de ese país&#160;&#124;&#160;UR-VE.COM</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ISP británico comprueba los problemas de la Ley antipiratería de ese país : Blogografia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ISP británico comprueba los problemas de la Ley antipiratería de ese país : Blogografia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ninja</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They only said the obvious. The media industry needs a new model.

I went to the US these days and you can find several open wireless connections wherever you go. Even in the neighborhood I stayed, with people I know, I could find several unsecured spots. I mean, you can&#039;t just go and disconnect a person because you saw the IP somewhere, there are several factors that make it impossible to prove whether it was that person downloading or not.

But as I said and the ISP above said, the problem could be solved by changing the way MAFIAA and merry friends act, by working together with the consumers they are currently attacking...

Well, they are idiots so they&#039;ll only see their mistakes in the future, just like Nokia noticed years after they couldn&#039;t use mass production models everywhere and got their butts kicked in the US ;D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They only said the obvious. The media industry needs a new model.</p>
<p>I went to the US these days and you can find several open wireless connections wherever you go. Even in the neighborhood I stayed, with people I know, I could find several unsecured spots. I mean, you can&#8217;t just go and disconnect a person because you saw the IP somewhere, there are several factors that make it impossible to prove whether it was that person downloading or not.</p>
<p>But as I said and the ISP above said, the problem could be solved by changing the way MAFIAA and merry friends act, by working together with the consumers they are currently attacking&#8230;</p>
<p>Well, they are idiots so they&#8217;ll only see their mistakes in the future, just like Nokia noticed years after they couldn&#8217;t use mass production models everywhere and got their butts kicked in the US ;D</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@70

There are so many problems with this.

1) You don&#039;t need to upload anything to download things off Usenet/Direct Connect/HTTP sites/FTP servers/etc

Only torrents would be effected.

2) This can only be applied to residential users, as servers in datacenters upload a LOT more than they download.
If that&#039;s the case, an easy way to get around your problem is to rent a seedbox for £5 a month, and let the server do all the torrenting. Once it&#039;s downloaded to the seedbox, download it via http from your server and you&#039;re done.


The real problem with trying to prosecute people who do naughty things on the internet is that:
a) An IP doesn&#039;t relate to an individual or even an individual PC.

b) Why should I be responsible for the things that are sent to my IP address?  I don&#039;t own the internet, i don&#039;t even own the cable in my house - the ISP owns it. I literally own nothing, but they want me to take all the responsibility? Get real.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@70</p>
<p>There are so many problems with this.</p>
<p>1) You don&#8217;t need to upload anything to download things off Usenet/Direct Connect/HTTP sites/FTP servers/etc</p>
<p>Only torrents would be effected.</p>
<p>2) This can only be applied to residential users, as servers in datacenters upload a LOT more than they download.<br />
If that&#8217;s the case, an easy way to get around your problem is to rent a seedbox for £5 a month, and let the server do all the torrenting. Once it&#8217;s downloaded to the seedbox, download it via http from your server and you&#8217;re done.</p>
<p>The real problem with trying to prosecute people who do naughty things on the internet is that:<br />
a) An IP doesn&#8217;t relate to an individual or even an individual PC.</p>
<p>b) Why should I be responsible for the things that are sent to my IP address?  I don&#8217;t own the internet, i don&#8217;t even own the cable in my house &#8211; the ISP owns it. I literally own nothing, but they want me to take all the responsibility? Get real.</p>
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		<title>By: CasualT</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@70. You CANT limit the upload speed, especially not to 1kbps, lmao. Guess what now I can&#039;t play online games cause I&#039;m taking waaaaay too long to upload data to the server/players. This wouldn&#039;t just apply to computer games either, XBox or PS3 games online play would suffer hugely.. meaning the gaming industry would suffer. Try upload a photo to facebook lets say a nice quality one of around 1MB and wait like 20 minutes while it does it (btw you wouldn&#039;t be able to browse at the same time..)Upload speeds right now need to be improved more than download speeds in most areas and this is not for illegal download reasons.. 
You wouldn&#039;t be able to enforce a global upload limit either..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@70. You CANT limit the upload speed, especially not to 1kbps, lmao. Guess what now I can&#8217;t play online games cause I&#8217;m taking waaaaay too long to upload data to the server/players. This wouldn&#8217;t just apply to computer games either, XBox or PS3 games online play would suffer hugely.. meaning the gaming industry would suffer. Try upload a photo to facebook lets say a nice quality one of around 1MB and wait like 20 minutes while it does it (btw you wouldn&#8217;t be able to browse at the same time..)Upload speeds right now need to be improved more than download speeds in most areas and this is not for illegal download reasons..<br />
You wouldn&#8217;t be able to enforce a global upload limit either..</p>
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