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		<title>By: Google Takedown Notices Soar Almost 712,000% SInce 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google Takedown Notices Soar Almost 712,000% SInce 2008]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2014 20:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] paper documents an important change in the use of DMCA takedown notices and coincides with ongoing discussions between copyright holders and online service providers on how to improve the DMCA takedown process. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] paper documents an important change in the use of DMCA takedown notices and coincides with ongoing discussions between copyright holders and online service providers on how to improve the DMCA takedown process. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Google Takedown Notices Surge 711,887 Percent in Four Years &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google Takedown Notices Surge 711,887 Percent in Four Years &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2014 22:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] paper documents an important change in the use of DMCA takedown notices and coincides with ongoing discussions between copyright holders and online service providers on how to improve the DMCA takedown process. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Google Takedown Notices Surge 711,887 Percent in Four Years &#124; We R Pirates</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google Takedown Notices Surge 711,887 Percent in Four Years &#124; We R Pirates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2014 22:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Google Takedown Notices Surge 711,887 Percent in Four Years - TorrentScene &#124; TorrentScene</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2014 21:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] paper documents an important change in the use of DMCA takedown notices and coincides with ongoing discussions between copyright holders and online service providers on how to improve the DMCA takedown process. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Google Takedown Notices Surge 711,887 Percent in Four Years &#124; TorrentFreak</title>
		<link>/riaa-wants-google-end-piracy-whack-mole-140314/#comment-1198567</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google Takedown Notices Surge 711,887 Percent in Four Years &#124; TorrentFreak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2014 21:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Siti Internet Aziendali &#187; USA, il copyright che l&#8217;industria vorrebbe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Siti Internet Aziendali &#187; USA, il copyright che l&#8217;industria vorrebbe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 18:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] attanaglia altri detentori dei diritti, dalle case editrici come Elsevier all&#8217;onnipresente RIAA, in prima linea a rappresentare gli interessi dell&#8217;industria della musica statunitense: tutti [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] attanaglia altri detentori dei diritti, dalle case editrici come Elsevier all&#8217;onnipresente RIAA, in prima linea a rappresentare gli interessi dell&#8217;industria della musica statunitense: tutti [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
		<link>/riaa-wants-google-end-piracy-whack-mole-140314/#comment-1197262</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 22:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Piracy would not be a thing if RIAA and the MPAA played fair with content. They continually hold the hand of content buyers and tell them how they can and cannot use the content they bought,  Treat content as a lease rather than a buy to continually add restrictions to content.


Piracy is the best solution cause it removes the restrictions and makes content straight forward and easy to watch and listen to. These companies need to grow up and get out of dying business models and most importantly learn to accept the internet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Piracy would not be a thing if RIAA and the MPAA played fair with content. They continually hold the hand of content buyers and tell them how they can and cannot use the content they bought,  Treat content as a lease rather than a buy to continually add restrictions to content.</p>
<p>Piracy is the best solution cause it removes the restrictions and makes content straight forward and easy to watch and listen to. These companies need to grow up and get out of dying business models and most importantly learn to accept the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few thoughts on the matter...


1.) How exactly is the &quot;wack-a-mole&quot; issue Google&#039;s responsibility to fix?  Google uses automated bots to scour the web to build it&#039;s index.  If Warner Brothers can claim no fault for their bot&#039;s automated take down requests, I&#039;d imagine Google could equally claim no responsibility for re-adding links, especially when uploaders get creative enough to dodge MAFIAA&#039;s bots, I&#039;d imagine it would confuse Google&#039;s bots into thinking it&#039;s new, non-blacklisted material.  And if MAFIAA agents can&#039;t be bothered to fine-tune their detection algorithms to lower the number of false positives why do they feel they have the right to demand Google tweak theirs, with the primary intent of benefiting them and not Google... 


2.) The only way I could really see this happening would be if Google totally de-lists all of TPB and other sites that MAFIAA has issue with.  But just because it&#039;s not on Google doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not on the internet.  All it means is I have to go to TPB, KAT, etc myself and use each site&#039;s search feature myself to find what I&#039;m looking for, rather than searching all of the sites with a single Google search.  A little more time consuming, but I doubt not enough to deter someone with even the slightest motivation.  


Of course then where do we draw the line?  If MAFIAA gets the ability to say what cannot be on Google, why not other groups?  Recipe trading websites encourage you to eat at home more often, hurting the National Restaurant Association&#039;s bottom line (now not only am I not going out to the cinema, I&#039;m not going out to dinner either)...  Should we ban those as well?  Or maybe atheist sites swaying people from the church, thus hurting their bottom line...  


3.) Even if Google bends over backwards and becomes the MAFIAA&#039;s b!tch gives them full control of their database, there is another issue.  They&#039;ve stated some sites have the audacity to think just because they&#039;re foreign, US law doesn&#039;t apply to them.  I could see one of these sites creating their own Google of pirate sites, as a backlash for forcing Google to remove all the &quot;naughty&quot; links...  If the MAFIAA can&#039;t force them to permanently remove a single file, I don&#039;t see them having any better luck getting a whole website offlined.


4.) Based on their wishlist, I don&#039;t think they exactly understand how Google&#039;s autocomplete feature works...  First off, Google could let them add as many words to the autocomplete black list as they want (I believe Google already humored them by removing &quot;Torrent&quot; and other pirate friendly keywords) but that&#039;s not going to stop someone from manually typing the word in...  And the results are going to be the same, regardless if I manually type my keywords in, or use one of Google&#039;s auto complete suggestions...


5.) A few times in the wishlist they suggested using &quot;objective criteria, like the number of legitimate take down requests sent&quot;...  Who determines if they are in fact legitimate requests?  I&#039;d imagine MAFIAA would argue they never send one that isn&#039;t.  Going by that, HBO, Comcast, Showtime, Facebook, IMDb, iTunes, and Amazon have all received several legitimate requests.  So when I&#039;m trying to buy a movie, Google should down-rank (or de-list) iTunes and Amazon...  




Over all, I&#039;d really suggest they should put their focus on trying to figure out how to compel these foreign sites into compliance with US law, rather than complaining that another independent company isn&#039;t doing enough to protect their interests.  Not only would it take care of their issues with Google, but it would also remove a lot of the material from the net, which would still be there, even if Google shut it&#039;s doors...  Well, ultimately, I&#039;d suggest they try to find new innovative ways to get us content at decent prices and all that...  But we know that&#039;ll never happen...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few thoughts on the matter&#8230;</p>
<p>1.) How exactly is the &#8220;wack-a-mole&#8221; issue Google&#8217;s responsibility to fix?  Google uses automated bots to scour the web to build it&#8217;s index.  If Warner Brothers can claim no fault for their bot&#8217;s automated take down requests, I&#8217;d imagine Google could equally claim no responsibility for re-adding links, especially when uploaders get creative enough to dodge MAFIAA&#8217;s bots, I&#8217;d imagine it would confuse Google&#8217;s bots into thinking it&#8217;s new, non-blacklisted material.  And if MAFIAA agents can&#8217;t be bothered to fine-tune their detection algorithms to lower the number of false positives why do they feel they have the right to demand Google tweak theirs, with the primary intent of benefiting them and not Google&#8230; </p>
<p>2.) The only way I could really see this happening would be if Google totally de-lists all of TPB and other sites that MAFIAA has issue with.  But just because it&#8217;s not on Google doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not on the internet.  All it means is I have to go to TPB, KAT, etc myself and use each site&#8217;s search feature myself to find what I&#8217;m looking for, rather than searching all of the sites with a single Google search.  A little more time consuming, but I doubt not enough to deter someone with even the slightest motivation.  </p>
<p>Of course then where do we draw the line?  If MAFIAA gets the ability to say what cannot be on Google, why not other groups?  Recipe trading websites encourage you to eat at home more often, hurting the National Restaurant Association&#8217;s bottom line (now not only am I not going out to the cinema, I&#8217;m not going out to dinner either)&#8230;  Should we ban those as well?  Or maybe atheist sites swaying people from the church, thus hurting their bottom line&#8230;  </p>
<p>3.) Even if Google bends over backwards and becomes the MAFIAA&#8217;s b!tch gives them full control of their database, there is another issue.  They&#8217;ve stated some sites have the audacity to think just because they&#8217;re foreign, US law doesn&#8217;t apply to them.  I could see one of these sites creating their own Google of pirate sites, as a backlash for forcing Google to remove all the &#8220;naughty&#8221; links&#8230;  If the MAFIAA can&#8217;t force them to permanently remove a single file, I don&#8217;t see them having any better luck getting a whole website offlined.</p>
<p>4.) Based on their wishlist, I don&#8217;t think they exactly understand how Google&#8217;s autocomplete feature works&#8230;  First off, Google could let them add as many words to the autocomplete black list as they want (I believe Google already humored them by removing &#8220;Torrent&#8221; and other pirate friendly keywords) but that&#8217;s not going to stop someone from manually typing the word in&#8230;  And the results are going to be the same, regardless if I manually type my keywords in, or use one of Google&#8217;s auto complete suggestions&#8230;</p>
<p>5.) A few times in the wishlist they suggested using &#8220;objective criteria, like the number of legitimate take down requests sent&#8221;&#8230;  Who determines if they are in fact legitimate requests?  I&#8217;d imagine MAFIAA would argue they never send one that isn&#8217;t.  Going by that, HBO, Comcast, Showtime, Facebook, IMDb, iTunes, and Amazon have all received several legitimate requests.  So when I&#8217;m trying to buy a movie, Google should down-rank (or de-list) iTunes and Amazon&#8230;  </p>
<p>Over all, I&#8217;d really suggest they should put their focus on trying to figure out how to compel these foreign sites into compliance with US law, rather than complaining that another independent company isn&#8217;t doing enough to protect their interests.  Not only would it take care of their issues with Google, but it would also remove a lot of the material from the net, which would still be there, even if Google shut it&#8217;s doors&#8230;  Well, ultimately, I&#8217;d suggest they try to find new innovative ways to get us content at decent prices and all that&#8230;  But we know that&#8217;ll never happen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bovski</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bovski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 19:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The RIAA wants to have their cake and eat it. 
The RIAA wont let you use their music in a commercial way without paying more for it, it&#039;s only fair that google do the same.
Google should start charging for commercial usage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The RIAA wants to have their cake and eat it.<br />
The RIAA wont let you use their music in a commercial way without paying more for it, it&#8217;s only fair that google do the same.<br />
Google should start charging for commercial usage.</p>
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		<title>By: Chilling Effects DMCA Archive is “Repugnant”, Copyright Group Says &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chilling Effects DMCA Archive is “Repugnant”, Copyright Group Says &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 08:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] detailed in our previous reports (1,2), this week various rightsholders and service providers have been giving statements on the [&#8230;]]]></description>
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