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		<title>By: Russia&#039;s Leading Social Network VKontakte Cleared Of Copyright Infringement - Copywrong</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russia&#039;s Leading Social Network VKontakte Cleared Of Copyright Infringement - Copywrong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Nov 2013 22:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] VKontakte is not only the largest social networking site in Russia, but is also one of the biggest unauthorized repositories of copyright music, thanks to its file-hosting service. Given the moves to clamp down on copyright infringement in Russia, it seemed only a matter of time before VKontakte found itself in hot water because of this. And yet, as Torrent Freak reports, something unexpected has happened&#8230; [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] VKontakte is not only the largest social networking site in Russia, but is also one of the biggest unauthorized repositories of copyright music, thanks to its file-hosting service. Given the moves to clamp down on copyright infringement in Russia, it seemed only a matter of time before VKontakte found itself in hot water because of this. And yet, as Torrent Freak reports, something unexpected has happened&#8230; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always thought enigmax was Andy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought enigmax was Andy</p>
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		<title>By: ---</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 02:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[unless they&#039;re gay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unless they&#8217;re gay.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Reba</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Reba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 01:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can get a disposable number cheaply.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get a disposable number cheaply.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardvaark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ardvaark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Socialism is tantamount to slavery, certainly bonded servitude. You either submit to vastly excessive taxation, imposed with force or you live destitute on the streets.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Whoa there.
Now that&#039;s some serious exaggeration.

First of all, the tax level in socialist countries is not that much different than the level in the US.
There are exceptions to this like Norway and Sweden but they also reap a lot more benefits. For example, college is free and you also get a scholarship which essentially amounts to being paid to study.

The difference is only in the use of tax money and the general mindset.

Additionally, Socialism&#039;s goal is to &lt;b&gt;avoid&lt;/b&gt; that you end up with the streets if something goes wrong or you can&#039;t sustain yourself.
So that statement is pretty much contradictory.

&lt;blockquote&gt;A large part of the money taken from you by force is then distributed to those you wouldn&#039;t piss on to extinguish a fire or to politicians&#039; pet projects.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

All tax money on every country is taken from you &quot;by force&quot;.
That statement is also incredibly deceiving. If you don&#039;t approach taxes in the US with the same mindset of it being taken by force (which is a safe assumption given your tone) you&#039;re being two faced.

Secondly, the money is passed to those in &lt;b&gt;need of it&lt;/b&gt; if you plan to suck on state money for the rest of your life, you&#039;re not gonna get far.
Faking sickness, not wanting to work and any other things will just ensure you run out of time and support &lt;b&gt;very&lt;/b&gt; quickly.
This varies from country to country of course but I&#039;ve lived in enough countries and know enough people to tell you this is the norm in the vast majority.

Finally, is it not true that spending tax-money on politician&#039;s pet projects and corporations of friends of politicians also happens (and with a bigger degree) in the US?
In fact, is it not true that one of the biggest problems with the US is corporations demanding and spending tax money inefficiently???

&lt;blockquote&gt;Do not confuse those taxes people are prepared to pay, would pay voluntarily, for healthcare, schooling and so on.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You don&#039;t pay taxes FOR healthcare and whatnot. You&#039;re taxed on a lot of things (purchases, income etc) and the difference is in how that money is funnelled.
People willing and unwilling to pay for social security would be taxed on the exact same things.

&lt;blockquote&gt;In the UK people work for about a day per week for the things they would choose and another 2 days for the things they would not, accounting for direct and indirect taxation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And so they would in non socialist countries.
In fact, most people in the US are taxed the &lt;b&gt;same way&lt;/b&gt; as people in the UK or anywhere else in Europe.
Like I said above it&#039;s all a matter of how the money is funnelled.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Let people give to those non basics BY CHOICE. Bet not many do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course not.
Most people don&#039;t think of others problems, especially that which they can&#039;t see.
However when the shit hits the fan they&#039;re the first to ask for help, but then they wouldn&#039;t get any because everyone else things like they thought before.
To prevent this, everyone steps in and helps each other. It&#039;s a very selfless thing.

In the US this is, however, taken to an extreme level of selfishness where not only you don&#039;t give a fuck but you also would ask for it when you need it and probably complain when people don&#039;t.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Socialism is Le Petit Communism. It is a step on the road, Socialism &gt; Dictatorship of the Proletariat &gt; Communism&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So Socialism, a &lt;b&gt;slightly&lt;/b&gt; controlled capitalist model to ensure that everyone has a comfortable life above a certain threshold that could otherwise be ignored for pure capitalist reasons is worse than communism?
Communism, the model which abolishes private property, several freedoms and even tramples on basic market rules and capitalistic measures??

That&#039;s putting the money above the person. Something terribly inhumane and cold. Even amoral.

I&#039;m not even sure if you&#039;re just full of misinformation at this point or just blindly hating on something you don&#039;t fully understand.
I&#039;ll hope it&#039;s the first which is easily solved if you don&#039;t have a dogmatic mindset.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Socialism is tantamount to slavery, certainly bonded servitude. You either submit to vastly excessive taxation, imposed with force or you live destitute on the streets.</p></blockquote>
<p>Whoa there.<br />
Now that&#8217;s some serious exaggeration.</p>
<p>First of all, the tax level in socialist countries is not that much different than the level in the US.<br />
There are exceptions to this like Norway and Sweden but they also reap a lot more benefits. For example, college is free and you also get a scholarship which essentially amounts to being paid to study.</p>
<p>The difference is only in the use of tax money and the general mindset.</p>
<p>Additionally, Socialism&#8217;s goal is to <b>avoid</b> that you end up with the streets if something goes wrong or you can&#8217;t sustain yourself.<br />
So that statement is pretty much contradictory.</p>
<blockquote><p>A large part of the money taken from you by force is then distributed to those you wouldn&#8217;t piss on to extinguish a fire or to politicians&#8217; pet projects.</p></blockquote>
<p>All tax money on every country is taken from you &#8220;by force&#8221;.<br />
That statement is also incredibly deceiving. If you don&#8217;t approach taxes in the US with the same mindset of it being taken by force (which is a safe assumption given your tone) you&#8217;re being two faced.</p>
<p>Secondly, the money is passed to those in <b>need of it</b> if you plan to suck on state money for the rest of your life, you&#8217;re not gonna get far.<br />
Faking sickness, not wanting to work and any other things will just ensure you run out of time and support <b>very</b> quickly.<br />
This varies from country to country of course but I&#8217;ve lived in enough countries and know enough people to tell you this is the norm in the vast majority.</p>
<p>Finally, is it not true that spending tax-money on politician&#8217;s pet projects and corporations of friends of politicians also happens (and with a bigger degree) in the US?<br />
In fact, is it not true that one of the biggest problems with the US is corporations demanding and spending tax money inefficiently???</p>
<blockquote><p>Do not confuse those taxes people are prepared to pay, would pay voluntarily, for healthcare, schooling and so on.</p></blockquote>
<p>You don&#8217;t pay taxes FOR healthcare and whatnot. You&#8217;re taxed on a lot of things (purchases, income etc) and the difference is in how that money is funnelled.<br />
People willing and unwilling to pay for social security would be taxed on the exact same things.</p>
<blockquote><p>In the UK people work for about a day per week for the things they would choose and another 2 days for the things they would not, accounting for direct and indirect taxation.</p></blockquote>
<p>And so they would in non socialist countries.<br />
In fact, most people in the US are taxed the <b>same way</b> as people in the UK or anywhere else in Europe.<br />
Like I said above it&#8217;s all a matter of how the money is funnelled.</p>
<blockquote><p>Let people give to those non basics BY CHOICE. Bet not many do.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course not.<br />
Most people don&#8217;t think of others problems, especially that which they can&#8217;t see.<br />
However when the shit hits the fan they&#8217;re the first to ask for help, but then they wouldn&#8217;t get any because everyone else things like they thought before.<br />
To prevent this, everyone steps in and helps each other. It&#8217;s a very selfless thing.</p>
<p>In the US this is, however, taken to an extreme level of selfishness where not only you don&#8217;t give a fuck but you also would ask for it when you need it and probably complain when people don&#8217;t.</p>
<blockquote><p>Socialism is Le Petit Communism. It is a step on the road, Socialism &gt; Dictatorship of the Proletariat &gt; Communism</p></blockquote>
<p>So Socialism, a <b>slightly</b> controlled capitalist model to ensure that everyone has a comfortable life above a certain threshold that could otherwise be ignored for pure capitalist reasons is worse than communism?<br />
Communism, the model which abolishes private property, several freedoms and even tramples on basic market rules and capitalistic measures??</p>
<p>That&#8217;s putting the money above the person. Something terribly inhumane and cold. Even amoral.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not even sure if you&#8217;re just full of misinformation at this point or just blindly hating on something you don&#8217;t fully understand.<br />
I&#8217;ll hope it&#8217;s the first which is easily solved if you don&#8217;t have a dogmatic mindset.</p>
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		<title>By: FreeBSD</title>
		<link>/russian-facebook-not-responsible-for-users-pirate-music-uploads-131026/#comment-1151330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FreeBSD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2013 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[judge has shares in vk? its russia, after all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>judge has shares in vk? its russia, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Hogspace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hogspace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2013 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Huh? Get real. China morphed into a Fascist state. No better no worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh? Get real. China morphed into a Fascist state. No better no worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Hogspace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hogspace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2013 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Socialism is tantamount to slavery, certainly bonded servitude.  You either submit to vastly excessive taxation, imposed with force or you live destitute on the streets.  A large part of the money taken from you by force is then distributed to those you wouldn&#039;t piss on to extinguish a fire or to politicians&#039; pet projects. Do not confuse those taxes people are prepared to pay, would pay voluntarily, for healthcare, schooling and so on.  In the UK people work for about a day per week for the things they would choose and another 2 days for the things they would not, accounting for direct and indirect taxation. Let people give to those non basics BY CHOICE. Bet not many do. 

Socialism is Le Petit Communism. It is a step on the road, Socialism &gt; Dictatorship of the Proletariat &gt; Communism]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Socialism is tantamount to slavery, certainly bonded servitude.  You either submit to vastly excessive taxation, imposed with force or you live destitute on the streets.  A large part of the money taken from you by force is then distributed to those you wouldn&#8217;t piss on to extinguish a fire or to politicians&#8217; pet projects. Do not confuse those taxes people are prepared to pay, would pay voluntarily, for healthcare, schooling and so on.  In the UK people work for about a day per week for the things they would choose and another 2 days for the things they would not, accounting for direct and indirect taxation. Let people give to those non basics BY CHOICE. Bet not many do. </p>
<p>Socialism is Le Petit Communism. It is a step on the road, Socialism &gt; Dictatorship of the Proletariat &gt; Communism</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Dutrow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Dutrow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2013 01:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even Russia is more sympathetic of users vs copyright holders. WOW]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even Russia is more sympathetic of users vs copyright holders. WOW</p>
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		<title>By: cherilyu175</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cherilyu175]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 23:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[мʏ ƈօ-աօʀĸɛʀ&#039;ѕ ѕтɛք-мօтнɛʀ мαĸɛѕ $74/нʀ օɴ тнɛ ƈօмքυтɛʀ. ѕнɛ нαѕ вɛɛɴ օυт օғ աօʀĸ ғօʀ 7 мօɴтнѕ вυт ʟαѕт мօɴтн нɛʀ քαʏ ƈнɛƈĸ աαѕ $15127 ʝυѕт աօʀĸιɴɢ օɴ тнɛ ƈօмքυтɛʀ ғօʀ α ғɛա нօυʀѕ. ɢɛт мօʀɛ ιɴғօʀмαтιօɴ Zap22&amp;#46com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>мʏ ƈօ-աօʀĸɛʀ&#8217;ѕ ѕтɛք-мօтнɛʀ мαĸɛѕ $74/нʀ օɴ тнɛ ƈօмքυтɛʀ. ѕнɛ нαѕ вɛɛɴ օυт օғ աօʀĸ ғօʀ 7 мօɴтнѕ вυт ʟαѕт мօɴтн нɛʀ քαʏ ƈнɛƈĸ աαѕ $15127 ʝυѕт աօʀĸιɴɢ օɴ тнɛ ƈօмքυтɛʀ ғօʀ α ғɛա нօυʀѕ. ɢɛт мօʀɛ ιɴғօʀмαтιօɴ Zap22&amp;#46com</p>
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