Comments on: The 16th Century Religious Wars And Today’s Copyright Monopoly Wars Have More In Common Than You Think

By: Hiro Protagonist

Hiro Protagonist — Sun, 12 May 2013 12:08:00 +0000

I think eBook
collections and audiobook collections are much less likely than movies
and pop music to activate enforcement, but this is just the beginning. I think it is shame that all file
sharing is linked together, it gives them an excuse. There is a lot of media that would be
unavailable without file sharing websites. Not Just for free but at all.
Media that has to do with understanding science, survival, real
information about what is happening in the world. A lot educational
material in my view should be available regardless of whether a person
can afford it. People who can afford usually just buy it. To enrich
society some things must be tolerated. I could give a fart about movies
and pop music being restricted, but when demonoid went down I lost rare
audiobook eBooks and research materials. all because the greedy rich.. This New Orld ORder SUcks.
Obviously our supposedly capitalist system is a failure. All money is
only created by fiat from private bankers who lend it to govt’s and
thier “friends” so they get the most buying power out of it, then it
trickles down to us and when we deposit it in the bank(the elite
families), the bank can create more money from nothing and lend it out
with interest. The problem money must be lent before it exists, but they
always charge interest( for what, entering numbers on a screen. now ,
too much money has been created to stay ahead of the interest on the
debt, but it is a shell game. already the world wide debt owed is not
only many of times the money supply, it would take the entire planets
gross domestic product for 200 years to pay off what is owed to the
global elite, who have done nothing to deserve these payments except
quietly set up central banks everywhere, using thier ability to create
money to trade it for REAL GOODS, REAL PROPERTY, and REAL INFLUENCE.. We
need to cut them off, deny the debt and take back what they have stolen
in gold and property and in the public ownership of energy corporations
and financial corporation, with dividends going to everyone who claims a
share( who needs it). We need to stop paying for our own enslavement!
Internet censorship is what they are aiming for, piracy is a red
herring, a Digital Pearl Harbor, like the war on terror, just another
excuse to take our freedoms away. Don’t watch TV, it will imprison your mind w/o you knowledge or consent.
David Icke is right about most things as bizarre as that sounds. look
into it. Read “the Franklin Cover-up” to realize the network they have
created( written by senator John DeCamp who reveals that many of our
politicians and community leaders are involved in satanism , mind
control, ritual abuse and murder of children. He is Republican and
wasn’t expecting this and doesn’t go into implication in the book, but
the book is a well documented and will help create to the cognitive
dissonnance you need to stop believing in “the world that is pulled over
your eyes to blind you from the truth” After that read “And the truth
shall set you free” as welll as other David Icke books, Even if you can’
except everything he says, the vast majority is verifiable information
about who owns the system and how it operates. If we will stop a
global fascist state, We need to realize our true potential. This world is not sane 4 a reason, We are being led by people tat have given their will to dark forces- possibly demons, but Im not Christian at all, but this info really requires us to take an expanded view. We are awake! We say (kNOw More).

By: Cris Alvarez

Cris Alvarez — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:26:00 +0000

Good essay but I disagree that the religious wars were wars between the elite and the masses. Many (most probably) of the noblemen who embraced the new language and new interpretations were simply trying to wrest financial control of church lands for themselves. I suppose the wars resulted in the redistribution of wealth but I doubt many of the protestant nobles were looking to help out the masses with their wars.

By: GreenPirate

GreenPirate — Sat, 02 Feb 2013 23:44:00 +0000

Looks as thought somebody fixed whatever bug was causing this. Suddently I don’t feel as god-like. :(

By: SoundnuoS

SoundnuoS — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:08:00 +0000

I told you exactly what I do and why I’m writing here. This line of arguing is comparable to blocking your ears and refusing to listen. Handy in keeping the faith, but…
The arguments I make are there for anyone to read, the research and links i dig up is there for anyone to see and judge for themselves. No lies there.

By: Gene Poole

Gene Poole — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:21:00 +0000

As far as I’m concerned SoundnuoS has completely undermined himself. He’s made claims that he’s a starving musician and that he needs copyright to stay out of a cardboard box and eat…yet when I tried to get a link to his blog so that I could actually purchase some perfectly legal music from the guy, he isn’t willing to offer it up. He’s completely full of shit and anything out of his mouth is invalid because of his lies.

By: SoundnuoS

SoundnuoS — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:46:00 +0000

Counter claims only require the same statement of good faith as the original DMCA. Hardly a strenuos effort. If it moves on after that then it’s the court’s decision, based on who can prove ownership.
The suggestion you gave as alternative implementation for DMCAs is already mostly implemented. I.e. perjury for false claims and opening the claimant up to being sued.
This means frivolous and unjustified claims are risky to make.
Considering this, and that the max period something stays down after a counter claim is made will be 14 days, I do think this is justifiable.

Copyright won’t be in conflict with civil or human rights of free speech nor with property ownership no matter how many times you repeat it.

By: SoundnuoS

SoundnuoS — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:30:00 +0000

The product creates an experience. Sex, like breathing is an experience. Difference. Sloppy wording on my part, but the meaning should be clear from the rest of my post.
In the end all manufactured property, intellectual or not, is about providing a service.
IKEA doesn’t charge for the chair because it’s made of wood. They charge for the design, sourcing of the material, building the parts, the logistics of getting it there etc.
Only IKEA can sell or give away IKEA branded chairs and they are free to set a price.
Only the creator of the art has the right to decide who gets to distribute the art and for what price it should be shared.

By: SoundnuoS

SoundnuoS — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:42:00 +0000

I’ll defer to you on the technical details of the internet, but your statement at the end can’t be taken seriously.

They’ve had strikes schemes in France, NZ, and more than that in South Korea. Their net is still up, people are free to communicate and they are free to continue up- and downloading non-copyrighted work.

The only thing being done is that destructive aspects of technology are being regulated, in this case file-sharing of copyrighted material. Functionality is never an end in itself. If something can be done with technology that isn’t desireable it gets controlled.

We have cars that can go 200+kph, but we have speedlimits. Cars are not rendered unfunctional.
We have guns and they are heavily regulated, but still available for hunting and competitive shooting.
We have atomic power and that sure is hell is regulated as to who gets to do what with it.
Every industry has regulations to limit various aspects of their functionality, there’s nothing new here.

By: Scary_Devil_Monastery

Scary_Devil_Monastery — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:19:00 +0000

“How costly?”

Physical in-depth scan of the routers solid state memory. Last time I saw a bill for this it was the equivalent of 7500 €.

“I think we’ll be moving towards more regulation on this, regardless of strikes schemes.”

As SOPA, PIPA and ACTA indicated, we are moving toward LESS regulation.

You see, regulation impedes functionality. We are already at the limit where we either accept that individuals will be able to communicate whatever they wish with whomever they wish unimpeded…or we abolish the internet.

“Like I said, the internet isn’t just a harmless toy and bringer of knowledge.”

I think I know the internet in it’s details to a far greater extent than you do. And whatever you say, and whatever your opinion is on how the internet is used, the only real choice you actually do have is this:

1) An internet where people communicate unhindered.

2) No internet.

Other options do not exist. For the same reason that you can never realistically block people from saying certain words while still allowing them the option to speak.

By: Scary_Devil_Monastery

Scary_Devil_Monastery — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:47:00 +0000

“It doesn’t work the same as other kinds of ownership, because it’s not the same kind of product. It’s immaterial, an experience. “

Then it is not property. Simple as that. The definition of what you describe is a service.

Going by your argument, “having had sex” would count as a property as well. As would “breathing”. “Immaterial property” is impossible to describe logically, and indeed, the law itself doesn’t even attempt to.

Which is why copyright is always described in terms of a privilege, and intellectual “property” always very clearly defined. It requires extraordinary exceptions written in.