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		<title>By: Change</title>
		<link>/torrentspy-one-year-after-the-shutdown-090324/#comment-543623</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Change]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Pirating&quot; has changed the way consumers consume.  They purchase just as much as they did before, but now they can pick and choose more carefully what it is they feel is worth paying for.  And in many cases, still view films in the theatre first because they are paying for the experience.  The big image and sound.  

Independent or lesser known artists have a much bigger soapbox to stand on in order to turn heads and gather attention.  Entertainment markets can no longer be cornered easily.  The consumers cash has been spread out over a much larger surface area.

Example: HEDpe use to be on a major label.  THat label forced their creative input on them and the band did not do well.  HED pe now resides on an independent label under their own creative direction and still sruvive with a relativly large fanbase.  Before the digital age, this was not a healthy alternative.  But the MUSIC is thier passion and the fans see the genuity of it so they are willing to pay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pirating&#8221; has changed the way consumers consume.  They purchase just as much as they did before, but now they can pick and choose more carefully what it is they feel is worth paying for.  And in many cases, still view films in the theatre first because they are paying for the experience.  The big image and sound.  </p>
<p>Independent or lesser known artists have a much bigger soapbox to stand on in order to turn heads and gather attention.  Entertainment markets can no longer be cornered easily.  The consumers cash has been spread out over a much larger surface area.</p>
<p>Example: HEDpe use to be on a major label.  THat label forced their creative input on them and the band did not do well.  HED pe now resides on an independent label under their own creative direction and still sruvive with a relativly large fanbase.  Before the digital age, this was not a healthy alternative.  But the MUSIC is thier passion and the fans see the genuity of it so they are willing to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/torrentspy-one-year-after-the-shutdown-090324/#comment-543551</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[$110 million is a biiiiiig fine , but one that this dude wont be able to pay so he probably wont need to stress over it too much . Speaking from a musician&#039;s point of view , I think it&#039;s cool to see some views from people on here who understand that if musicians cant get paid for their work then they wont be able to record and get their music out to the public as they would want to .
If I need to get some dollars in to pay the rent and put food on the table for my family I expect to get paid for my music . If I believe in a cause and want to put on a gig or give a track to a charity I support or put a couple of free tracks on a blog then that&#039;s for me to decide .
I cant speak about Justin Bunnell cos I&#039;ve never met him , but I am very suspicious about one of the dudes who owns The Pirate Bay - the one who is the heir to a multi-million dollar crispbread empire ! lol . Sounds like the missing scene from Spinal Tap !!! 
I think people like him are just money-obsessed hypocrites trying to build personal website fortunes on the back of musicians and producers work - hope he gets everything that&#039;s coming to him - he sounds like a shitty little SOB]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$110 million is a biiiiiig fine , but one that this dude wont be able to pay so he probably wont need to stress over it too much . Speaking from a musician&#8217;s point of view , I think it&#8217;s cool to see some views from people on here who understand that if musicians cant get paid for their work then they wont be able to record and get their music out to the public as they would want to .<br />
If I need to get some dollars in to pay the rent and put food on the table for my family I expect to get paid for my music . If I believe in a cause and want to put on a gig or give a track to a charity I support or put a couple of free tracks on a blog then that&#8217;s for me to decide .<br />
I cant speak about Justin Bunnell cos I&#8217;ve never met him , but I am very suspicious about one of the dudes who owns The Pirate Bay &#8211; the one who is the heir to a multi-million dollar crispbread empire ! lol . Sounds like the missing scene from Spinal Tap !!!<br />
I think people like him are just money-obsessed hypocrites trying to build personal website fortunes on the back of musicians and producers work &#8211; hope he gets everything that&#8217;s coming to him &#8211; he sounds like a shitty little SOB</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/torrentspy-one-year-after-the-shutdown-090324/#comment-543529</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Politics in the U.S. was originally a voluntary, service-oriented calling. Politicians worked normal jobs, and were given little or no compensation. Of course, this changed at some point (probably with the increasing level of complexity in the American political system). 

Even today, politicians rarely accept money from lobbies for personal gain. They accept it, instead, to fund their favorite projects and reelection campaigns. The whole political problem boils down to corporate lobbies and special interest projects as opposed to personal greed.

That being said, Torrentspy&#039;s  legal troubles are a result of a lack of understanding of BitTorrent. Trying to get a judge or jury of people over forty to understand that no files are hosted on a tracker is incredibly difficult. This lack of understanding causes that tracker to be made the target of everyone&#039;s frustrations instead of the real criminals...the users.

Even so, BitTorrent trackers are different from search engines such as google, yahoo, or ask. Those search engines cooperate with artists to curb infringement, whereas some torrent sites are extreme opponents to any censorship. Even those that do try to stop infringement, are simply treated as if they were TPB.

In the good ol&#039; days, there was the scene and a few communities of talented people who pirated whatever they wanted to. They did NOT do this for personal gain, but rather for a challenge. Frankly, p2p networks are ruining piracy by distributing stolen goods to the masses who could not have stolen the media themselves. This results in much larger domestic losses to piracy than ever before, causing a panic in the industries (rightly so).

This is not a BBS, this is the internet. It is large scale and will one day have billions of users. This form of mass piracy is NOT sustainable. p2p lamers have DRIVEN corporations to suing their own customers. If p2p pirates keep this up, eventually you will kill the groups who produce the stolen goods you acquire, along with the industry.

So, later all. Long live the scene, and inb4 TL:DR.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politics in the U.S. was originally a voluntary, service-oriented calling. Politicians worked normal jobs, and were given little or no compensation. Of course, this changed at some point (probably with the increasing level of complexity in the American political system). </p>
<p>Even today, politicians rarely accept money from lobbies for personal gain. They accept it, instead, to fund their favorite projects and reelection campaigns. The whole political problem boils down to corporate lobbies and special interest projects as opposed to personal greed.</p>
<p>That being said, Torrentspy&#8217;s  legal troubles are a result of a lack of understanding of BitTorrent. Trying to get a judge or jury of people over forty to understand that no files are hosted on a tracker is incredibly difficult. This lack of understanding causes that tracker to be made the target of everyone&#8217;s frustrations instead of the real criminals&#8230;the users.</p>
<p>Even so, BitTorrent trackers are different from search engines such as google, yahoo, or ask. Those search engines cooperate with artists to curb infringement, whereas some torrent sites are extreme opponents to any censorship. Even those that do try to stop infringement, are simply treated as if they were TPB.</p>
<p>In the good ol&#8217; days, there was the scene and a few communities of talented people who pirated whatever they wanted to. They did NOT do this for personal gain, but rather for a challenge. Frankly, p2p networks are ruining piracy by distributing stolen goods to the masses who could not have stolen the media themselves. This results in much larger domestic losses to piracy than ever before, causing a panic in the industries (rightly so).</p>
<p>This is not a BBS, this is the internet. It is large scale and will one day have billions of users. This form of mass piracy is NOT sustainable. p2p lamers have DRIVEN corporations to suing their own customers. If p2p pirates keep this up, eventually you will kill the groups who produce the stolen goods you acquire, along with the industry.</p>
<p>So, later all. Long live the scene, and inb4 TL:DR.</p>
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		<title>By: bricl</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[politicians should stay in politics period. they shouldn&#039;t be allowed to get any sort of money, especially not the music industry, or any type of industry! i mean what the hell is this? can you pay a guy on the street to go beat the sh1t of someone? NO! it&#039;s illegal, so why are they doing it? hypocrites plain and simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>politicians should stay in politics period. they shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to get any sort of money, especially not the music industry, or any type of industry! i mean what the hell is this? can you pay a guy on the street to go beat the sh1t of someone? NO! it&#8217;s illegal, so why are they doing it? hypocrites plain and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: chewbie</title>
		<link>/torrentspy-one-year-after-the-shutdown-090324/#comment-543455</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh yes! I found shoutwire via Torrentspy and I must say that I would probably be a less informed, less free-thinking individual if I didn&#039;t. I owe a great bit of that to Justin. Don&#039;t give up man! Be strong!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yes! I found shoutwire via Torrentspy and I must say that I would probably be a less informed, less free-thinking individual if I didn&#8217;t. I owe a great bit of that to Justin. Don&#8217;t give up man! Be strong!</p>
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		<title>By: Hungry APE</title>
		<link>/torrentspy-one-year-after-the-shutdown-090324/#comment-543396</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FUCK THE LAW....TORRENT ALL DAY !!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FUCK THE LAW&#8230;.TORRENT ALL DAY !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: chet</title>
		<link>/torrentspy-one-year-after-the-shutdown-090324/#comment-543382</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@42 
your conception is wrong about Hitler depending on time your time line of him that is what becomes of him you talk of his demise the man was a political genus of his time most all his ppl believed i him in the beginning. of which Hitler prospered and so did Germany for most of his time in power. his demise came quickly when it happened as he turned the world against his crazy ideas. 

but this seems to be the direction the world gov are taking today is what he offered in the beginning it sounds great on paper but of which can only lead down a very dark bleak roads for all of us!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@42<br />
your conception is wrong about Hitler depending on time your time line of him that is what becomes of him you talk of his demise the man was a political genus of his time most all his ppl believed i him in the beginning. of which Hitler prospered and so did Germany for most of his time in power. his demise came quickly when it happened as he turned the world against his crazy ideas. </p>
<p>but this seems to be the direction the world gov are taking today is what he offered in the beginning it sounds great on paper but of which can only lead down a very dark bleak roads for all of us!!!</p>
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		<title>By: iiiears</title>
		<link>/torrentspy-one-year-after-the-shutdown-090324/#comment-543376</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Torrent sites are havens for property theft.

 That said so are a dozen other regular web page indexing search engines. Where does the witch hunt stop? What more do we sacrifice to swell the balance sheets of large corporate interests?
 Simply, There has been always been theft and there always will be.
Entertainment is a luxury and the more there is the more each of us wants.
 Provide quality, convenience and price and we will give you our dollars.
 Free media from a torrent isn&#039;t free in peace of mind. Each of us knows that something of worth is being taken and feels guilty for doing so.
 Make your service satisfy the need for instant gratification, let each of us quiet that small voice inside and make us feel good about supporting the artists and technicians that created it by providing a convenient and secure method of payment. 
 Never make restrictions on how your customer can use their purchase.
 Intimidating your customers by punishing other customers doesn&#039;t make money for you. Entertainment is a desirable luxury that becomes more desirable as we are exposed to it. 
  A large library of music. games, movies makes a better customer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torrent sites are havens for property theft.</p>
<p> That said so are a dozen other regular web page indexing search engines. Where does the witch hunt stop? What more do we sacrifice to swell the balance sheets of large corporate interests?<br />
 Simply, There has been always been theft and there always will be.<br />
Entertainment is a luxury and the more there is the more each of us wants.<br />
 Provide quality, convenience and price and we will give you our dollars.<br />
 Free media from a torrent isn&#8217;t free in peace of mind. Each of us knows that something of worth is being taken and feels guilty for doing so.<br />
 Make your service satisfy the need for instant gratification, let each of us quiet that small voice inside and make us feel good about supporting the artists and technicians that created it by providing a convenient and secure method of payment.<br />
 Never make restrictions on how your customer can use their purchase.<br />
 Intimidating your customers by punishing other customers doesn&#8217;t make money for you. Entertainment is a desirable luxury that becomes more desirable as we are exposed to it.<br />
  A large library of music. games, movies makes a better customer.</p>
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		<title>By: uughzee</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[im sad to see you go justin but it seems to me that if the &quot;GOLIATH&quot; sees anyone having fun they need to either profit from it or shut it down cause they know that its not $$$ that buys happiness and in turn need to oust you so they feel better about their addiction to profit fishing.
 I&#039;m at the point in my life, looking back on all the things governments have been doing and anarchy is looking really good through my window!!!  stay strong Justin!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im sad to see you go justin but it seems to me that if the &#8220;GOLIATH&#8221; sees anyone having fun they need to either profit from it or shut it down cause they know that its not $$$ that buys happiness and in turn need to oust you so they feel better about their addiction to profit fishing.<br />
 I&#8217;m at the point in my life, looking back on all the things governments have been doing and anarchy is looking really good through my window!!!  stay strong Justin!!</p>
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		<title>By: www.10ch.org</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@41 bowelmover
But unlike the situation with Hitler, at least we still have political freedom. Will we toss our political freedom away and sit here, doing nothing, and let the MAFIAA achieve all of its aims?

We should all organize a simple street protest against the MAFIAA, for the lack of a better idea. At least something is better than nothing, and a street protest is nothing. Pirates of the world, unite! Organize some kind of street protest as a kind of token effort, even if it shall be ineffective. Are you with me? If you are, say &quot;aye!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@41 bowelmover<br />
But unlike the situation with Hitler, at least we still have political freedom. Will we toss our political freedom away and sit here, doing nothing, and let the MAFIAA achieve all of its aims?</p>
<p>We should all organize a simple street protest against the MAFIAA, for the lack of a better idea. At least something is better than nothing, and a street protest is nothing. Pirates of the world, unite! Organize some kind of street protest as a kind of token effort, even if it shall be ineffective. Are you with me? If you are, say &#8220;aye!&#8221;</p>
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