Comments on: Traffic Shaping, Good or Bad?

By: gelidadalt

gelidadalt — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:03:56 +0000

My ISP (Net Virtua) in Brazil shapes my bandwidth even befora I reach my quota. I am really upset about, called them a thousand times and they say nothing is wrong with it. Totally dening. The worst thing is that it is still the best ISP in my city, so I have to put up with it.

By: AnarchistGenius

AnarchistGenius — Mon, 12 May 2008 21:42:21 +0000

First and foremost, we’re talking about legal monopolies engaging in a practice that effectively locks out consumers from getting the product they want. Why not get rid of public policy that prevents electricity companies from charging too much, or cigarette companies from advertising their products as “healthy,” or let meat-processing plants include human blood and feces in their canned product? Oh, wait, that’s right — because getting rid of the regulations that control the industry means sacrificing an invaluable service to the public.

As Peter Griffin said, “What kind of world are we living in where we can’t even trust the oil companies anymore?” But it’s not just oil cartels that hold legal monopolies over billions of people. It’s communication industries. And if you don’t like the products they offer, if they shut you out, if they turn off your water and electricity and heat because you don’t like THEIR TERMS, THEIR PRODUCTS, AND THEIR SERVICE AGREEMENT, then you can go without it. That’s a free market, baby! It means you have no choice.

Naturally, the problem to this isn’t going to come through technology. We actually need to overthrow the state.

By: mml

mml — Mon, 12 May 2008 02:29:01 +0000

“Here in France, isp don’t face those problems (up to now) and some of them provide 20mbps for about 35$ per monthâ€¦”

Are you fucking kidding me?

By: X

Mon, 12 May 2008 02:25:45 +0000

here in saudi arabia we have unlimited connection 1-10mb i am paying 65$ a month for unlimited 1mb (afaq dsl shameel) which i think is okay but the bad thing is i am kind of experiencing traffic shaping…

By: Asoke

Asoke — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:14:13 +0000

It’s easy to get around this issue. Purchase a VPN at http://www.strongvpn.com or the Relak place. They are cheap, and provide security too. My issues were gone, and I have other uses for it too.

By: danish guy

danish guy — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:01:17 +0000

i got a 10/1 mbit connection and its unlimted i pay 350kr a mounth.. but you could use relakss (secure vpn) and you and you will be could use you internet at fast speed they cant limit this one https://www.relakks.com/?cid=gb&PHPSESSID=bdd9022cb706405f54f1ea104bffbaab&PHPSESSID=bdd9022cb706405f54f1ea104bffbaab

By: Draicone

Draicone — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:26:44 +0000

“the way we explain it to our customers is like an ‘$5.99 all you can eat buffet’. If you pay your $6, and eat a reasonable amount, no problem.
…
Where this falls apart with internet usage is that 10% of your users belly up to the salad bar, pay their $6 and then eat 1000 lbs of food. It’s not that the restaurant is mean or evil or stupid, but that’s just not a sustainable business model.”

So you slow down your refilling of the pasta and salad bars so much that nobody gets a decent meal with pasta or salad, while leaving the desserts plentiful? I appreciate that ISPs need to shape traffic, but blanket shaping is the only way they can do it. And if they blanket shape, they need to make it very clear to their users.

By: reqreq

reqreq — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 03:02:00 +0000

An ISP shouldn’t care what protocol is being used. Nobody wants to buy protocols. People want to buy a effin connection. They should be able to use it 24-7 100% at whatever they want.
Otherwise the ISP should be obligated to put their limitations along with the advertising.

By: zxcasd

zxcasd — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 06:46:21 +0000

also… i forgot to add, the speed that ur torrent client shows is NOT the actual amount of data passing through your modem. get a bandwidth monitor program, u’ll see that the actual data transfering is about 10% more… due to the fact that ur torrent client has to send/receive data for syncing with other clients

if u have a 10mbps connection, figuring the above crap and other factors, be happy if you get 900kb/s…..

By: zxcasd

zxcasd — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 06:42:18 +0000

i have a 7mbps connection(thru triple play), my ISP doesnt seem to limit connection as far as i can tell, cause i can hit about 700kilobytes/s during peak hours for http and maybe 500kilobtyes/s bittorrent depending on the seed/peers….