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	<title>Comments on: UFC Wants $320K From Gym That Played Fights Without Permission</title>
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		<title>By: Mayhem</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mayhem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 14:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unless the gym was located in a business zoned district(which is not always the case) or the owner incorporated it as a business, then the cable service was likely set up as a residential service and he just paid the normal 50 bucks or whatever it is for the PPV. If he was screening the show as an open to the public, but you pay a cover charge to get in deal, then i don&#039;t blame Zuffa at all for wanting compensation. BUT, if he simply invited a few of his members and students over to watch a professional PPV, in the vein of the sport in which they are training, without charging them, Zuffa are being dicks. That would be no different then having a few friends over to your house to see the show. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless the gym was located in a business zoned district(which is not always the case) or the owner incorporated it as a business, then the cable service was likely set up as a residential service and he just paid the normal 50 bucks or whatever it is for the PPV. If he was screening the show as an open to the public, but you pay a cover charge to get in deal, then i don&#8217;t blame Zuffa at all for wanting compensation. BUT, if he simply invited a few of his members and students over to watch a professional PPV, in the vein of the sport in which they are training, without charging them, Zuffa are being dicks. That would be no different then having a few friends over to your house to see the show. </p>
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		<title>By: Mhgport</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mhgport]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 03:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re all a bunch of morons who like to argue with each other.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re all a bunch of morons who like to argue with each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Millais</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ophelia Millais]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 02:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;If you want it, you pay what they ask. If that price is too high, not enugh people will buy it and it will come down.&lt;/i&gt;

Except when it doesn&#039;t. In the music industry alone in the past 11 years there have been multiple class-action lawsuits and settlements against the majors for a fraction of the price-fixing they&#039;ve been screwing us with over the years. You think we just forget about things like that? And when we give you money for quality movies we like, you turn around and give us Big Momma&#039;s House 3. And you still think you are entitled to get whatever you demand from consumers, and when they don&#039;t buy enough, you claim it&#039;s all the pirates&#039; fault.

Also, I do indeed have a shitty job and can&#039;t afford hardly anything. I don&#039;t see how that is supposed to be proof that it&#039;s not about the price for me. It most certainly is about the price. If I were really into UFC, and hadn&#039;t already spent my entertainment budget on the myriad other things that compete for my attention, $5 sounds like a reasonable price to watch a live match which could run anywhere from a few minutes to the full duration. 

I don&#039;t agree with what the gym did, but how much money they took in for the screening is something probably quite easily determined, and certainly wouldn&#039;t be an amount that justifies the absurd damages being sought. By seeking such egregious amounts in these lawsuits, the entertainment industry only proves to consumers that they&#039;re ultimately in business to screw us out of as much as they possibly can, and to blame us for all of their problems. Why should I want to fund such shenanigans?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If you want it, you pay what they ask. If that price is too high, not enugh people will buy it and it will come down.</i></p>
<p>Except when it doesn&#8217;t. In the music industry alone in the past 11 years there have been multiple class-action lawsuits and settlements against the majors for a fraction of the price-fixing they&#8217;ve been screwing us with over the years. You think we just forget about things like that? And when we give you money for quality movies we like, you turn around and give us Big Momma&#8217;s House 3. And you still think you are entitled to get whatever you demand from consumers, and when they don&#8217;t buy enough, you claim it&#8217;s all the pirates&#8217; fault.</p>
<p>Also, I do indeed have a shitty job and can&#8217;t afford hardly anything. I don&#8217;t see how that is supposed to be proof that it&#8217;s not about the price for me. It most certainly is about the price. If I were really into UFC, and hadn&#8217;t already spent my entertainment budget on the myriad other things that compete for my attention, $5 sounds like a reasonable price to watch a live match which could run anywhere from a few minutes to the full duration. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with what the gym did, but how much money they took in for the screening is something probably quite easily determined, and certainly wouldn&#8217;t be an amount that justifies the absurd damages being sought. By seeking such egregious amounts in these lawsuits, the entertainment industry only proves to consumers that they&#8217;re ultimately in business to screw us out of as much as they possibly can, and to blame us for all of their problems. Why should I want to fund such shenanigans?</p>
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		<title>By: Moze304</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moze304]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 23:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[clown]]></description>
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		<title>By: Moze304</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moze304]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what i&#039;m wondering is, how would the UFC rights holders even know about some hole in the wall gym showing the fight? only thing i can think of is that the cable providers keep in their records if you&#039;re a business or residential customer. If the cable company does do this, than they should be liable also for letting someone from a business order the fight. Maybe the guy from the gym can counter sue?.lol..just seems kinda shady if the cable company knows he is not allowed to do this, lets him do it, then turns him into the rights holder?? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what i&#8217;m wondering is, how would the UFC rights holders even know about some hole in the wall gym showing the fight? only thing i can think of is that the cable providers keep in their records if you&#8217;re a business or residential customer. If the cable company does do this, than they should be liable also for letting someone from a business order the fight. Maybe the guy from the gym can counter sue?.lol..just seems kinda shady if the cable company knows he is not allowed to do this, lets him do it, then turns him into the rights holder?? </p>
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		<title>By: Crash</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, everyone who thinks the customer is always right is a &quot;Worthless POS&quot;?
Not enough people are buying. That&#039;s the point.
Sounds like you should take your own advice in your last para.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, everyone who thinks the customer is always right is a &#8220;Worthless POS&#8221;?<br />
Not enough people are buying. That&#8217;s the point.<br />
Sounds like you should take your own advice in your last para.</p>
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		<title>By: lovepuma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lovepuma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 09:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lakatwat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lakatwat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 23:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[UFC sues MMA gym, full of biggest fans. UFC is teh_clevuh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UFC sues MMA gym, full of biggest fans. UFC is teh_clevuh.</p>
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		<title>By: Lothor The Evil</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lothor The Evil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 21:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You could record it and upload it then sue people for not paying to see it lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could record it and upload it then sue people for not paying to see it lol</p>
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		<title>By: Ninja</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ninja]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 19:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Typical copywrong moronic troll. As you pointed out, the original poster only wishes to be treated properly by the companies instead of watching them biting the hand that feeds them.

When I started reading up there and saw lakawak commenting I knew I would see some amusing bs from him at some point in the comment. He&#039;s one of our pet trolls, he needs feeding ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical copywrong moronic troll. As you pointed out, the original poster only wishes to be treated properly by the companies instead of watching them biting the hand that feeds them.</p>
<p>When I started reading up there and saw lakawak commenting I knew I would see some amusing bs from him at some point in the comment. He&#8217;s one of our pet trolls, he needs feeding ;)</p>
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