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		<title>By: ??????????????????????????????????? &#124; kurox</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Reasoned Mind</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 09:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@128 Godlike

&quot;Actually I see it as the complete opposite. Copying and sharing has been in society since its very cradle. History is full of examples of copied ideas which succeeded thanks to somebody, but were in fact from somebody else.&quot;

Yes, copying and sharing that which is yours to copy or to share. Not the property of someone else. At no time in history has the fundamental covenant of barter or exchange ever been broken like this until now. There is no precedent in business history, not in food, clothing, shelter or any other product or commodity, where the public simply stole it because there was a technical way to achieve possession without paying, then justifying it because &quot;it&#039;s all crap&quot; or &quot;artists don&#039;t deserve to be paid&quot; or &quot;this is a freedom of speech issue&quot; (which is a howler.). The most fundamental agreement of all in an organized culture is always &quot;one party works and creates things we need, another person pays for the things they wish to take from the first party.&quot;
The simple notion of a fair business exchange.

This is not going to change anytime soon. Government and industry will do whatever they need to do to maintain this one-to-one correspondence. Piracy is a momentary online lunacy that will fade with the privacy priviliges that it needs to survive.

And anyone who cannot or chooses not to make the obvious distinction between things you can and should copy and distribute and things that belong to someone else and you may not, is kidding themselves and harming the image of &quot;sharing&quot; and doing irreversible damage to privacy on the internet in the process. Piracy as an attempt to chance the general order of civilization and the quid pro quo of business will inevitably fail, and is remarkably stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@128 Godlike</p>
<p>&#8220;Actually I see it as the complete opposite. Copying and sharing has been in society since its very cradle. History is full of examples of copied ideas which succeeded thanks to somebody, but were in fact from somebody else.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, copying and sharing that which is yours to copy or to share. Not the property of someone else. At no time in history has the fundamental covenant of barter or exchange ever been broken like this until now. There is no precedent in business history, not in food, clothing, shelter or any other product or commodity, where the public simply stole it because there was a technical way to achieve possession without paying, then justifying it because &#8220;it&#8217;s all crap&#8221; or &#8220;artists don&#8217;t deserve to be paid&#8221; or &#8220;this is a freedom of speech issue&#8221; (which is a howler.). The most fundamental agreement of all in an organized culture is always &#8220;one party works and creates things we need, another person pays for the things they wish to take from the first party.&#8221;<br />
The simple notion of a fair business exchange.</p>
<p>This is not going to change anytime soon. Government and industry will do whatever they need to do to maintain this one-to-one correspondence. Piracy is a momentary online lunacy that will fade with the privacy priviliges that it needs to survive.</p>
<p>And anyone who cannot or chooses not to make the obvious distinction between things you can and should copy and distribute and things that belong to someone else and you may not, is kidding themselves and harming the image of &#8220;sharing&#8221; and doing irreversible damage to privacy on the internet in the process. Piracy as an attempt to chance the general order of civilization and the quid pro quo of business will inevitably fail, and is remarkably stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: ZeroCool</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The court said that the end justifies the means&quot;

Cool does that mean its ok to hack the bank accounts of Logistep to keep our privacy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The court said that the end justifies the means&#8221;</p>
<p>Cool does that mean its ok to hack the bank accounts of Logistep to keep our privacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two things -

The quickest and easiest way to make money is real estate.

An example of something that succeeded only because it was pirated - Windows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things -</p>
<p>The quickest and easiest way to make money is real estate.</p>
<p>An example of something that succeeded only because it was pirated &#8211; Windows.</p>
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		<title>By: piracy is the real art</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[piracy is the real art]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 11:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@129

Stealing means taking something that belong to someone else :) Do 0 and 1 belong to Hollywood? So just because some people call this &quot;piracy&quot; and &quot;theft&quot; doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s just that. 

Ohh yeah Hollywood people work hard for the content they release. Ofc someone who really works in a factory to produce things others need to live make 1% or less of what a so called star actor makes for a few weeks of making a movie. Yes it&#039;s indeed hard work, harder than the fuckers that work to fields so ignorants like can read the internet and get sucked up by propaganda. 

You buy something you own it. Ok I understand we don&#039;t sell copies of it (that i can understand) but let&#039;s face it you pay for it you can give it to anyone. Or they should only rent things, but let&#039;s see who&#039;ll pay k&#039;s of dollars for something they&#039;ll never have actually.

Music and movie making isn&#039;t even an art these days. It&#039;s all for money, it&#039;s only normal that free sharing of real art work take place, even if in this process this crap hollywood is shared worldwide. If there would really be quality control for movies and music then things would be different. But seen many movies with a great trailer but nothing really to see at the actual movie or so called artists releasing one decent song in one album and rest make your ear drums blow up :(

This isn&#039;t about what they talk at all. They just scared that with the file sharing now documentaries and real art can be easily downloaded by almost anyone. That what scares them, not so called losses than no independent study ever quantified. 

F*cked up world we live in. Same people who invade others so they defend freedom and justice now tells the world we all criminals and our freedom is less important then their profits. Way to go forward ... to the dark ages :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@129</p>
<p>Stealing means taking something that belong to someone else :) Do 0 and 1 belong to Hollywood? So just because some people call this &#8220;piracy&#8221; and &#8220;theft&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s just that. </p>
<p>Ohh yeah Hollywood people work hard for the content they release. Ofc someone who really works in a factory to produce things others need to live make 1% or less of what a so called star actor makes for a few weeks of making a movie. Yes it&#8217;s indeed hard work, harder than the fuckers that work to fields so ignorants like can read the internet and get sucked up by propaganda. </p>
<p>You buy something you own it. Ok I understand we don&#8217;t sell copies of it (that i can understand) but let&#8217;s face it you pay for it you can give it to anyone. Or they should only rent things, but let&#8217;s see who&#8217;ll pay k&#8217;s of dollars for something they&#8217;ll never have actually.</p>
<p>Music and movie making isn&#8217;t even an art these days. It&#8217;s all for money, it&#8217;s only normal that free sharing of real art work take place, even if in this process this crap hollywood is shared worldwide. If there would really be quality control for movies and music then things would be different. But seen many movies with a great trailer but nothing really to see at the actual movie or so called artists releasing one decent song in one album and rest make your ear drums blow up :(</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t about what they talk at all. They just scared that with the file sharing now documentaries and real art can be easily downloaded by almost anyone. That what scares them, not so called losses than no independent study ever quantified. </p>
<p>F*cked up world we live in. Same people who invade others so they defend freedom and justice now tells the world we all criminals and our freedom is less important then their profits. Way to go forward &#8230; to the dark ages :)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You ask any professional business man whats the easiest and best way to make a good amount of money, they will say music.&quot;
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL

you. are. an. idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You ask any professional business man whats the easiest and best way to make a good amount of money, they will say music.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>LOLOLOLOLOLOL</p>
<p>you. are. an. idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: .neo.$ty&#124;e</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Actually I see it as the complete opposite. Copying and sharing has been in society since its very cradle. History is full of examples of copied ideas which succeeded thanks to somebody, but were in fact from somebody else.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
...Which is probably why ideas aren&#039;t copyrighted, but the way they can be presented can and almost always is.

In order to make this look like an example where copying was beneficial, you might want to give more information about this alleged time when it was..

Just stop paying for music and movies, don’t go to the theather, buy a ball and go play in the park and wait those thiefs from the industry die of starvation.
Piracy never ceases to amuse, that&#039;s for sure.  It has this incredibly ironic tendency to reverse roles.

You call hollywood thieves when YOU are the one taking what&#039;s theirs without paying.  Just because you are expected to give something back to them (ever heard of paying for things? Probabaly not), you act all incensed, like they are trying to wrong you.  Pirates are the ones who anxiously grab everything in site and yet they call hollywood greedy. Pirates are the ones who think that they are the only thing that matters are thus robbing hollywood of billions of dollars every year, yet THEY call hollywood evil.

Oh my gawsh! We steal their things and they aren&#039;t letting it slide??! They R soooo evvilll :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Actually I see it as the complete opposite. Copying and sharing has been in society since its very cradle. History is full of examples of copied ideas which succeeded thanks to somebody, but were in fact from somebody else.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;Which is probably why ideas aren&#8217;t copyrighted, but the way they can be presented can and almost always is.</p>
<p>In order to make this look like an example where copying was beneficial, you might want to give more information about this alleged time when it was..</p>
<p>Just stop paying for music and movies, don’t go to the theather, buy a ball and go play in the park and wait those thiefs from the industry die of starvation.<br />
Piracy never ceases to amuse, that&#8217;s for sure.  It has this incredibly ironic tendency to reverse roles.</p>
<p>You call hollywood thieves when YOU are the one taking what&#8217;s theirs without paying.  Just because you are expected to give something back to them (ever heard of paying for things? Probabaly not), you act all incensed, like they are trying to wrong you.  Pirates are the ones who anxiously grab everything in site and yet they call hollywood greedy. Pirates are the ones who think that they are the only thing that matters are thus robbing hollywood of billions of dollars every year, yet THEY call hollywood evil.</p>
<p>Oh my gawsh! We steal their things and they aren&#8217;t letting it slide??! They R soooo evvilll :(</p>
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		<title>By: godlike</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Reasoned Mind

&quot;You break moral and ethical covenants in place through civilization LONG before the concept of corporation ever came into view.&quot;

Actually I see it as the complete opposite. Copying and sharing has been in society since its very cradle. History is full of examples of copied ideas which succeeded thanks to somebody, but were in fact from somebody else.

It has always happened, and never before has the mess been so big. Of course, if means of communication grow and prosper, it is only logical to think that these things will increase. And personally I don&#039;t see a problem there. Both things come hand in hand. If there was no Internet, but there was a way to connect and communicate from people around the world fast, effectively and cheaply, the same thing would happen.

Either you accept both of them, or accept neither of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Reasoned Mind</p>
<p>&#8220;You break moral and ethical covenants in place through civilization LONG before the concept of corporation ever came into view.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually I see it as the complete opposite. Copying and sharing has been in society since its very cradle. History is full of examples of copied ideas which succeeded thanks to somebody, but were in fact from somebody else.</p>
<p>It has always happened, and never before has the mess been so big. Of course, if means of communication grow and prosper, it is only logical to think that these things will increase. And personally I don&#8217;t see a problem there. Both things come hand in hand. If there was no Internet, but there was a way to connect and communicate from people around the world fast, effectively and cheaply, the same thing would happen.</p>
<p>Either you accept both of them, or accept neither of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Better buy a dog and name it RIAA and make him fetch your balls for ya LoL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better buy a dog and name it RIAA and make him fetch your balls for ya LoL</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just stop paying for music and movies, don&#039;t go to the theather, buy a ball and go play in the park and wait those thiefs from the industry die of starvation.

Remember every time you buy something from them you are selling your freedoms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just stop paying for music and movies, don&#8217;t go to the theather, buy a ball and go play in the park and wait those thiefs from the industry die of starvation.</p>
<p>Remember every time you buy something from them you are selling your freedoms.</p>
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