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		<title>By: Kultura 2.0 &#187; Archiwum bloga &#187; Bailout - czy w kolejce ustawi? si? tak?e przedstawiciele Hollywood?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kultura 2.0 &#187; Archiwum bloga &#187; Bailout - czy w kolejce ustawi? si? tak?e przedstawiciele Hollywood?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 05:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] - zosta? niedawno &#8220;s?owem roku sieciowego s?ownika Merriam-Webster&#8221;. Wed?ug Bena Jonesa ze skrajnie propirackiego serwisu TorrentFreak nast?pnym kandydatem domagaj?cym si? wsparcia pa?stwa mog? by? bran?e filmowa i [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; zosta? niedawno &#8220;s?owem roku sieciowego s?ownika Merriam-Webster&#8221;. Wed?ug Bena Jonesa ze skrajnie propirackiego serwisu TorrentFreak nast?pnym kandydatem domagaj?cym si? wsparcia pa?stwa mog? by? bran?e filmowa i [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roze</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now you (who may be a hired industry advocate) are grasping at straws. It is downtrodden by money because it makes the culture non-existent. Also, the MAFIAA ought to be brought down so that they will change their ways, or go extinct. They are the dinosaurs, and they ought to go extinct. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you (who may be a hired industry advocate) are grasping at straws. It is downtrodden by money because it makes the culture non-existent. Also, the MAFIAA ought to be brought down so that they will change their ways, or go extinct. They are the dinosaurs, and they ought to go extinct. </p>
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		<title>By: Nealefelaen</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 06:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the industry was brought down we would still have things to download - there is a system where people are making things that are not tied in with how you are seeing copyright. Creative Commons. That you think there wouldn&#039;t be any content is ridiculous, people will still write, people will still sing, people will still make movies. We do not need a distribution industry in this day and age where the distribution can be done for free. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the industry was brought down we would still have things to download &#8211; there is a system where people are making things that are not tied in with how you are seeing copyright. Creative Commons. That you think there wouldn&#039;t be any content is ridiculous, people will still write, people will still sing, people will still make movies. We do not need a distribution industry in this day and age where the distribution can be done for free. </p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>/will-hollywood-be-the-next-bailout-candidate-081223/#comment-521607</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe the industry could go kill themself. Look at steam and valve their doing great because they give a fuck about something. Giving a fuck isnt hard but most are to lazy and dum to think about it. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the industry could go kill themself. Look at steam and valve their doing great because they give a fuck about something. Giving a fuck isnt hard but most are to lazy and dum to think about it. </p>
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		<title>By: ragnarok</title>
		<link>/will-hollywood-be-the-next-bailout-candidate-081223/#comment-521606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ragnarok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you know all those poor actors in NYC who will work for practically nothing? 
 
i&#039;m sure you could screen them and find some decent ones in there... ones that won&#039;t cost millions. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know all those poor actors in NYC who will work for practically nothing? </p>
<p>i&#039;m sure you could screen them and find some decent ones in there&#8230; ones that won&#039;t cost millions. </p>
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		<title>By: Phoebe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phoebe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t believe Hollywood would ever ask for a bailout anyway. Let&#039;s leave it to the bankers and automakers... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t believe Hollywood would ever ask for a bailout anyway. Let&#039;s leave it to the bankers and automakers&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: ALIS</title>
		<link>/will-hollywood-be-the-next-bailout-candidate-081223/#comment-521680</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ALIS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Come on, does anybody really think hollywood needs a bailout? If they go and ask, it just means they are greedy bastards. If they make billios of dollars every year you really think they run out of money because people dont buy their crap for a while? If they cant survive with one billion less then let them burn. 
 
Maybe they should try a few good ways to not lose so much money. Pay &quot;actors&quot; 10 million instead of 25. Even 10 million is way too much for little acting in some crappy movies... Make less movies, most of the shit they produce isn&#039;t even watchable. And last but not least, MAKE BETTER MOVIES. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, does anybody really think hollywood needs a bailout? If they go and ask, it just means they are greedy bastards. If they make billios of dollars every year you really think they run out of money because people dont buy their crap for a while? If they cant survive with one billion less then let them burn. </p>
<p>Maybe they should try a few good ways to not lose so much money. Pay &quot;actors&quot; 10 million instead of 25. Even 10 million is way too much for little acting in some crappy movies&#8230; Make less movies, most of the shit they produce isn&#039;t even watchable. And last but not least, MAKE BETTER MOVIES. </p>
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		<title>By: NubCakes</title>
		<link>/will-hollywood-be-the-next-bailout-candidate-081223/#comment-521676</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NubCakes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The banking collapse of recent weeks has brought many questions to people&#8217;s minds. How can an industry with no apparent self control or desire to self-regulate, lose billions in an orgy of greed and opulence, making bad decision after terrible decision with no consequences?&quot; 
 
Many commentators would disagree with that view entirely.  Put extremely simply, in the early 1990s Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac were forced, via legislation no less, to provide loans to low income borrowers, so called sub-prime loans.  These loans carried a high risk of the borrowers defaulting.  Freddie and Fannie&#039;s boards both disagreed with the legislation due to the risk of default.   These loans were then sold to other entities and spread throughout the world economy, people defaulted in large numbers and credit was thus harder to come by.  The root cause of this current crisis is at the US governments feet. 
 
The movements of  markets is largely due to people&#039;s confidence and perception about what the future holds rather than inherent attributes of the companies within it. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The banking collapse of recent weeks has brought many questions to people&rsquo;s minds. How can an industry with no apparent self control or desire to self-regulate, lose billions in an orgy of greed and opulence, making bad decision after terrible decision with no consequences?&quot; </p>
<p>Many commentators would disagree with that view entirely.  Put extremely simply, in the early 1990s Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac were forced, via legislation no less, to provide loans to low income borrowers, so called sub-prime loans.  These loans carried a high risk of the borrowers defaulting.  Freddie and Fannie&#039;s boards both disagreed with the legislation due to the risk of default.   These loans were then sold to other entities and spread throughout the world economy, people defaulted in large numbers and credit was thus harder to come by.  The root cause of this current crisis is at the US governments feet. </p>
<p>The movements of  markets is largely due to people&#039;s confidence and perception about what the future holds rather than inherent attributes of the companies within it. </p>
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		<title>By: NubCakes</title>
		<link>/will-hollywood-be-the-next-bailout-candidate-081223/#comment-521667</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NubCakes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Roze: &quot;The only way to oppose this is through the popular will. In a democratic government, no business can ever trump the will of the people.&quot; 
 
Oh yes they can.  I dont live in the USA but it seems to me that when people are happy some of them choose not to vote and vice-versa&quot;.  Basically at the moment it seems to me the vast majority of voters are not interested in copyright issues and hence wont vote on it. 
 
&quot;Now, I know that some people here think that there is a massive conspiracy between lobbyists and the government, and that somehow the lobbyists have so much power, that they can dictate the policies of government. That is completely untrue.&quot; 
 
Once again your too black and white in your thinking.  Business interests would not spend large amounts of money on lobbyists if they recieved nothing in return at least some of the time.  It&#039;s hardly a conspiracy, it&#039;s a well-known and established procedure. 
 
&quot;To impose copyright on non-commercial usages is to claim ownership of ideas and thoughts for private usages, and to enforce it is thus tantamount to thought police&quot; 
 
No it does not.  Copyright applies to any expressible form of an idea or information that is substantive and discrete.  A thought is not substantive in any fashion. 
 
&quot;Rather, it is their own fault for bad business practices (such as failing to create good movies).&quot; 
 
Creating a bad movie is not a &quot;bad business practice&quot;.  If there was a way to make every movie good don&#039;t you think that movie studios would be onto it?  It is impossible to ensure that every work is &quot;good&quot; and hence and point not worth making in your  arguement against copyright.  And who decides what is &quot;good&quot; in any case?  One way is popular opinion, which means it makes a lot of money which is in opposition to your idea that &quot;money makes art bad&quot;.   
 
&quot;The idea that they should just be given money because they are a business is just ridiculous.&quot; 
 
That isn&#039;t what&#039;s happening here. 
 ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roze: &quot;The only way to oppose this is through the popular will. In a democratic government, no business can ever trump the will of the people.&quot; </p>
<p>Oh yes they can.  I dont live in the USA but it seems to me that when people are happy some of them choose not to vote and vice-versa&quot;.  Basically at the moment it seems to me the vast majority of voters are not interested in copyright issues and hence wont vote on it. </p>
<p>&quot;Now, I know that some people here think that there is a massive conspiracy between lobbyists and the government, and that somehow the lobbyists have so much power, that they can dictate the policies of government. That is completely untrue.&quot; </p>
<p>Once again your too black and white in your thinking.  Business interests would not spend large amounts of money on lobbyists if they recieved nothing in return at least some of the time.  It&#039;s hardly a conspiracy, it&#039;s a well-known and established procedure. </p>
<p>&quot;To impose copyright on non-commercial usages is to claim ownership of ideas and thoughts for private usages, and to enforce it is thus tantamount to thought police&quot; </p>
<p>No it does not.  Copyright applies to any expressible form of an idea or information that is substantive and discrete.  A thought is not substantive in any fashion. </p>
<p>&quot;Rather, it is their own fault for bad business practices (such as failing to create good movies).&quot; </p>
<p>Creating a bad movie is not a &quot;bad business practice&quot;.  If there was a way to make every movie good don&#039;t you think that movie studios would be onto it?  It is impossible to ensure that every work is &quot;good&quot; and hence and point not worth making in your  arguement against copyright.  And who decides what is &quot;good&quot; in any case?  One way is popular opinion, which means it makes a lot of money which is in opposition to your idea that &quot;money makes art bad&quot;.   </p>
<p>&quot;The idea that they should just be given money because they are a business is just ridiculous.&quot; </p>
<p>That isn&#039;t what&#039;s happening here. </p>
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		<title>By: NubCakes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NubCakes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the industry was bought down you would have nothing to download because very few if any people are going to spend their own moneyto make films &amp; TV to give away for nothing. 
 
If America is not a culture why the hell are you always rambling about culture being downtrodden by money and this can be fixed by taking money out of the equation then? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the industry was bought down you would have nothing to download because very few if any people are going to spend their own moneyto make films &amp; TV to give away for nothing. </p>
<p>If America is not a culture why the hell are you always rambling about culture being downtrodden by money and this can be fixed by taking money out of the equation then? </p>
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