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		<title>By: Borderliner</title>
		<link>/zut-alors-french-government-deny-bittorrent-piracy-allegations-120101/#comment-864634</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Borderliner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep... except the first just displays the info, while the second gathering is the basis for cutting access to the Internet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep&#8230; except the first just displays the info, while the second gathering is the basis for cutting access to the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Lectures by redisdead - Pearltrees</title>
		<link>/zut-alors-french-government-deny-bittorrent-piracy-allegations-120101/#comment-863774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lectures by redisdead - Pearltrees]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Zut Alors! French Government Deny BitTorrent Piracy Allegations &#124; TorrentFreak        société 9 Culture numérique Open Data surveillance vidéosurveillance [+]   News in French tsunami friday open data espagne lieux HAKIM BEY pirates Programme Nucleaire Iranien nucléaire Société paresse Internet Illimité mouël devront Open Data style opendata loppsi vente Voie elfique taille origine PENSÉES gentrification réformons imprisoned Propriété intellectuelle michel Data nicolas company Militarisation Sécuritarisme loppsi Novembre partie Loppsi extrêmement police liberticide Open-Data juridique thematic bibliothèques O, grand rêve de l&#039;impossible... spectateur Res Publica environmental bercy économie When the web looks at his bellybottom explorateurs internet À lire ... remembrance owners Histoire marqué village image Livres encore DOCS #OWS street impulsion-création-y&#039;a d&#039;l&#039;idée libre rencontre expertise divers pratiques filmer Les liens de la semaine (5 novembre) médias indignés lieux libre librologies loisirs disposition jur indian police killers Numerique france virus facteurs MEDIAS ET WEB SOCIAL veracruz réseaux kinect TAZ hakim eEducation ligne VRAC pointe Données ouvertes hbgary France décoller infographie DataViz métro france HADOPI encore alors wireless OPEN DATA focus general le CNNum ou CNNumérique génération un peu de tout économie prices Numérique anonymous website Accès à internet devront illimité communiquer       home &#8226; contact &#8226; blog &#8226; fb &#8226; twitter  to experience pearltrees activate javascript. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Zut Alors! French Government Deny BitTorrent Piracy Allegations | TorrentFreak        société 9 Culture numérique Open Data surveillance vidéosurveillance [+]   News in French tsunami friday open data espagne lieux HAKIM BEY pirates Programme Nucleaire Iranien nucléaire Société paresse Internet Illimité mouël devront Open Data style opendata loppsi vente Voie elfique taille origine PENSÉES gentrification réformons imprisoned Propriété intellectuelle michel Data nicolas company Militarisation Sécuritarisme loppsi Novembre partie Loppsi extrêmement police liberticide Open-Data juridique thematic bibliothèques O, grand rêve de l&#039;impossible&#8230; spectateur Res Publica environmental bercy économie When the web looks at his bellybottom explorateurs internet À lire &#8230; remembrance owners Histoire marqué village image Livres encore DOCS #OWS street impulsion-création-y&#039;a d&#039;l&#039;idée libre rencontre expertise divers pratiques filmer Les liens de la semaine (5 novembre) médias indignés lieux libre librologies loisirs disposition jur indian police killers Numerique france virus facteurs MEDIAS ET WEB SOCIAL veracruz réseaux kinect TAZ hakim eEducation ligne VRAC pointe Données ouvertes hbgary France décoller infographie DataViz métro france HADOPI encore alors wireless OPEN DATA focus general le CNNum ou CNNumérique génération un peu de tout économie prices Numérique anonymous website Accès à internet devront illimité communiquer       home &bull; contact &bull; blog &bull; fb &bull; twitter  to experience pearltrees activate javascript. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Franse overheid ontkent piraterij Nicholas Sarkozy Computertaal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Franse overheid ontkent piraterij Nicholas Sarkozy Computertaal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] beveiligingen te omzeilen zijn. Vandaar misschien dat de Franse overheid toch aangeeft een audit uit te voeren, misschien? AKPC_IDS += &quot;23841,&quot;;  Stem of voeg toe aan :&#160;&#160;               [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] beveiligingen te omzeilen zijn. Vandaar misschien dat de Franse overheid toch aangeeft een audit uit te voeren, misschien? AKPC_IDS += &quot;23841,&quot;;  Stem of voeg toe aan :&nbsp;&nbsp;               [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/zut-alors-french-government-deny-bittorrent-piracy-allegations-120101/#comment-862709</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d be happy to do that. However, according to the french government, once a finger is pointed at a presumtive downloader, it&#039;s up to the accused to prove his innocense.

Going by their own policy and law it is up to them to prove the accusation false, not the other way around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be happy to do that. However, according to the french government, once a finger is pointed at a presumtive downloader, it&#8217;s up to the accused to prove his innocense.</p>
<p>Going by their own policy and law it is up to them to prove the accusation false, not the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/zut-alors-french-government-deny-bittorrent-piracy-allegations-120101/#comment-862708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...and it&#039;s telling that even given static numbers, it&#039;s a given that many of them will be false.

Aside from that, Trident Media guard is talking complete and utter bull when they say their method is much better than that employed by YHD. They both rely on the same fundamentally flawed &quot;evidence&quot; to draw a conclusion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and it&#8217;s telling that even given static numbers, it&#8217;s a given that many of them will be false.</p>
<p>Aside from that, Trident Media guard is talking complete and utter bull when they say their method is much better than that employed by YHD. They both rely on the same fundamentally flawed &#8220;evidence&#8221; to draw a conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/zut-alors-french-government-deny-bittorrent-piracy-allegations-120101/#comment-862705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;On the one hand illegal downloads are apparently impossible, but on the other the Ministry has seen fit to commission an audit. They don’t sound confident, that’s for sure.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Anyone making a statement on how it&#039;s &quot;impossible&quot; to use torrent protocols from within an intranet obviously never spoke with the network tech in charge.

And the latter sentence tells me that &lt;i&gt;someone&lt;/i&gt; within the government DID speak to a network tech and was enlightened as to the use of tunnels, simple proxies and of course, the use of nonstandardized setups.

Back in the golden olden days where network administrators and system superusers were more common you might have had a prayer at supervising what went down on your network but today? My guess is the french government is lucky if there is one part-time consultant they call in on a regular basis to restart the routers.

In order to achieve any form of network security, most organizations would have to up their IT overhead by at least an order of magnitude. And thus, police officers keep getting caught watching child porn on &quot;supposedly secure&quot; police networks and government officials are implicated in illegal filesharing as no organization wants to justify the expense of human supervision of the network.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;On the one hand illegal downloads are apparently impossible, but on the other the Ministry has seen fit to commission an audit. They don’t sound confident, that’s for sure.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Anyone making a statement on how it&#8217;s &#8220;impossible&#8221; to use torrent protocols from within an intranet obviously never spoke with the network tech in charge.</p>
<p>And the latter sentence tells me that <i>someone</i> within the government DID speak to a network tech and was enlightened as to the use of tunnels, simple proxies and of course, the use of nonstandardized setups.</p>
<p>Back in the golden olden days where network administrators and system superusers were more common you might have had a prayer at supervising what went down on your network but today? My guess is the french government is lucky if there is one part-time consultant they call in on a regular basis to restart the routers.</p>
<p>In order to achieve any form of network security, most organizations would have to up their IT overhead by at least an order of magnitude. And thus, police officers keep getting caught watching child porn on &#8220;supposedly secure&#8221; police networks and government officials are implicated in illegal filesharing as no organization wants to justify the expense of human supervision of the network.</p>
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		<title>By: Ninja</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ninja]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think YHD collection method is pretty much public?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think YHD collection method is pretty much public?</p>
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		<title>By: Ninja</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ninja]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It works fella, not perfect but it works. No network is foolproof as the French Govt goons want to make believe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It works fella, not perfect but it works. No network is foolproof as the French Govt goons want to make believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Ninja</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ninja]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not to mention the infamous IP spoofing. One can always spoof an IP and use it to download child porn. Can you blame the rightful subscriber for the said IP for the crimes carried by others? Nowadays with all the pressure it has become pretty common to spoof IPs. I&#039;ve checked my IP on YHD and it has both things I did download (one of them pretty far from any mainstream content so I&#039;m sure it was my download) and a few other stuff I&#039;m sure no1 downloaded at home (I&#039;m the only bt user there). So we have 3 possibilities here: 1- some1 used my wi-fi to download (the open portion) 2- My IP was spoofed 3- In the very rare events where I&#039;m running TOR (I set myself as an exit spot) some1 downloaded that and I got the data.

Regardless of what really happened there, it&#039;s obvious that I&#039;m not responsible for part of the downloads. If I were in France I&#039;d get a few dozen strikes.

BUT, BUT.... SECURE WI-FI! Tell that to all those cities with free connections all over the place ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention the infamous IP spoofing. One can always spoof an IP and use it to download child porn. Can you blame the rightful subscriber for the said IP for the crimes carried by others? Nowadays with all the pressure it has become pretty common to spoof IPs. I&#8217;ve checked my IP on YHD and it has both things I did download (one of them pretty far from any mainstream content so I&#8217;m sure it was my download) and a few other stuff I&#8217;m sure no1 downloaded at home (I&#8217;m the only bt user there). So we have 3 possibilities here: 1- some1 used my wi-fi to download (the open portion) 2- My IP was spoofed 3- In the very rare events where I&#8217;m running TOR (I set myself as an exit spot) some1 downloaded that and I got the data.</p>
<p>Regardless of what really happened there, it&#8217;s obvious that I&#8217;m not responsible for part of the downloads. If I were in France I&#8217;d get a few dozen strikes.</p>
<p>BUT, BUT&#8230;. SECURE WI-FI! Tell that to all those cities with free connections all over the place ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 04:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is what it is and sometimes we need to see what it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is what it is and sometimes we need to see what it is.</p>
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