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100,000 P2P Users Sued in US Mass Lawsuits

The avalanche of copyright infringement lawsuits in the United States, mainly against BitTorrent users, are about to hit a dubious milestone. In total 99,924 defendants have been sued in the last 12 months, and new cases are being filed at a rapid rate. Adult companies in particular have embraced the profitable pay-up-or-else scheme where tens of millions of dollars are at stake.

Mass P2P lawsuits have been filed all across the United States in recent months, especially by companies dealing with adult content. They have embraced this new revenue stream by the dozen and new studios are joining every month.

Through these mass lawsuits the copyright holders are trying to obtain the personal details of (mostly) BitTorrent users who allegedly shared their material online. Once this information is handed over, they then offer the defendant the opportunity to settle the case for a few hundred up to a couple of thousand dollars, thereby avoiding a full trial and potentially even bigger financial penalties.

In the United States the judicial system is currently being overloaded with new cases, but the scope of the issue was never really clear until now. An anonymous TorrentFreak reader has spent months compiling a complete overview of all the mass P2P lawsuits that have been filed in the US since the beginning of 2010, listing all the relevant case documents and people involved in a giant spreadsheet.

The research shows that between 8th January 2010 and 21st January 2011, a total of 99,924 individuals have been sued. The vast majority of the defendants have allegedly used BitTorrent to share copyrighted works but a few hundred ed2k users are also included.

Of the 80 cases that were filed originally, 68 are still active, with 70,914 defendants still in jeopardy.

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What’s further worth noting is that although the makers of the Hurt Locker were one of the first to sue, this scheme has now been hijacked by copyright trolls and adult movie studios. Nearly all the cases filed recently involve adult material, and the law firm behind the pioneering United States Copyright Group has now accepted its first adult cases as well.

The mass lawsuits have had quite a lot of criticism from consumer rights organizations, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) in particular. One of the main points of critique is that the copyright holders have no intention of going to a full trial against each of the defendants. They are out to get a settlement, which means that the (possibly weak) evidence will never be tested in court.

Two weeks ago the EFF filed an amicus brief in which it asked an Illinois judge to quash subpoenas issued in pay-up-or-else lawsuits involving alleged illegal file-sharing of pornography.

“Copyright owners have a right to protect their works, but they can’t use shoddy and unfair tactics to do so,” said EFF Intellectual Property Director Corynne McSherry. “We’re asking the court to protect the rights of each and every defendant, instead of allowing these copyright trolls to game the system.”

All the information regarding these mass P2P cases can be accessed by the public though this Google spreadsheet that will be regularly updated.

“I am hoping that having the data available will stimulate discussion and that it could be of value to people actively resisting/fighting the suits. Even if that is overly optimistic, public access to the information that shows the scope of this bullshit is, in and of itself, a good thing,” the anonymous spreadsheet creator told TorrentFreak.

Stopping the lawsuits wont be easy though, considering the huge amounts of money that can be made by the suing parties. Just multiply the 100,000 defendants by an average settlement proposal of $1000 dollars and it’s clear that tens of millions of dollars can be made with this dubious scheme.

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  • DJDANKVT

    Very depressing…..Good article tho.

    • DJDANKVT

      Hopefully your boat gets raided by pirates :)

    • FrankU

      suicide is an option-all of you freetards are such losers

  • Question

    how can u sue a distinct unique person with a ip thats not really unique to anything….can somone clairify …

    if someone steals ur car and commits a robbery the owner isnt responsible…so how can a router at a ip point to a person, u dont know who or what is using that connection mite be public mite be hacked how can they ever prove this without a confession or something???

    • TF

      in murder convictions sometimes paperwork and logs and confessions dont even work they must have certain proof like a motive and guns and evidence, a log and a ip doesnt mean jack , unless u go into there computer physically and know its on there drive…which i know isnt happening , so explain this someone….

      • http://twitter.com/Denidorm DnD

        I can only agree. They may be suing… but getting convicted? No way.

        • 111

          dont know how a ip would work when some peoples routers and systems are dynamic or static….a number cant idenitfy a person ….this will never hold…only if u admit it ur self

        • Anonymous

          Personally, I run off pirated WiFi… So they’re never catching me. I have a large botnet setup as well.

          But it really seems all in vain, since most of the crap people sue over is garbage that wouldn’t make any money in the first place.

        • Mack

          the issue is, they arent aiming to take you to court proof is irrelevant. they just want a settlement which is out of court

        • Qasdfa

          of course a number can identify you. your social insurance number for ex… your ip just isn’t necessarily unique to you. some isps try to make the subscrible accountable for all downstream use in their terms of service, but i don’t know what legal effect it has…

          (as an aside: if everyone made/watched amateur porn instead of commercial porn, these copyright trolls would quickly go out of business and get real jobs…)

    • Adversaryan

      That is what I am thinking. So what your telling me porn company is you want to sue me for that time my roommates drunk friend came over and used my computer to download porn? I don’t even know who that guy was…..

      • THIS

        THIS ^
        yea circumstance evidence is fine when u have loads of it , but when ur talking about the law i can never see this flying….prob why its mostly adult companies, lol i would pay to get it off me and run even if it was my room mate lmao not the attention most grown ups need…

      • afrowolf

        That was me, sorry about that ^__^;

      • afrowolf

        That was me, sorry about that ^__^;

      • afrowolf

        That was me, sorry about that ^__^;

    • Ven

      The court will look at who all has access to your computer/IP, but that’s about it.

      As to the reason why the adult entertainment industry is having the most success: I am positive that they have some kind of statistic that tells them the percentage of people who don’t want to be slapped with a theft lawsuit by an adult entertainment company. It could potentially hurt your reputation, marriage, and career depending on what you do.

      Most people are willing to fight and force copyright holders to prove we did it. But if those people actually did download adult content, and there is a chance they could stand up in front of their world and get caught, they will pay up to keep their secrets secret.

    • Guest

      The ISPs keep a log of everything you do online. This includes the list of all IP addresses in use by time and subscriber, and thus your personal or business address, name, and everything. A recently won lawsuit has also set a precedent that the internet subscriber (that’s you) are legally and financially responsible for anything that happens on your home or business network. That means that if someone is using your internet connection with your open WiFi access point, you are liable for anything they do. If your PC is infected with a virus, and it’s acting as a torrent node, you can be sued for file sharing.

      Not to sound paranoid here. Really. The corporations have control of our Government and Judiciary system. We have become a nation of complacent citizens, giving up more of our civil rights every day. We are at a point where only a strong, pointed, civil rights movement will change the tide.

      • Guest

        Which case established that account holders are responsible for everything over their network? I thought one of the RIAA cases established exactly the opposite.

        That would be a crazy precedent. Millions of Americans could be sued for millions of dollars in copyright infringement, just for plugging in a wifi router in an urban environment. If so the wifi router manufacturers are recklessly endangering the public. And if criminal activity happens over their open wifi network is the account holder an accomplice? Insanity.

      • Noddy

        And which “A recently won lawsuit” exactly was it that established this precedence? If you don’t cite a reference then perhaps someone may think that you’re just making this up….. just sayin’

    • ^^^this guy is an idiot^^^

      oh i love how that word “hack” has been thrown around in the last years with no relevance what-so-ever. guess its time to update the definition since so many people seem to think hack is something completley different than what they are using it for.

  • Antonima

    BULLSH!T !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Sue for XXX ? WTF WTF WTF ?

    F**K you MPAA / RIAA, i will download 10 times more now. Enjoy ;)

    • James

      WTF does the RIAA/MPAA have to do with porn companies suing to protect their work? Are you a moron?

      • Asdf

        >porn companies suing to protect their work
        From the article, it seems that they’re not out to protect their work, but only intend to gain revenue through out-of-court settlements.

    • FUp2pgeeks

      do you even know how much of a loser you are?

  • LOL

    yes, disconnect urselves from the internet and use the money to join the gym, or to go out more, fck these corporate f4gots, stop buying media, and go to the pub n drink beer, tht way u can watch em rot in hell via live news in pubs xD…. but anyway, big corporate + corrupt f4gots -.- the top 2% of america make the rest of their citizens look like asshats, america fails -.-

  • Adult31

    Are people actually wondering why adult only content providers are mostly suing….imagine u go to get ur mail in the morning and u see ur being sued by a adult video dude who has ur info and legal crapolo , u REALLY think
    ur going to fight that when u have a family and kids that would find out , and ur work and friends… this is black mail ..simple

    • lawlz

      “Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels” all over again.. Finally someone who knows what’s up.

      • Anonymous

        If i base this on the movie titles i saw in the ACS-Law case than i can understand that. Not being a family man i would defend myself against most, but even i would settle to get out of a Granny-XXX lawsuit.

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  • Cnn

    im just suprised this story and the bittorrent sites shutdown with those rap blogs never make the news…torrent freak = cnn

  • Joeblo

    Hey everyone just make more
    Torrent sites
    Trackers
    Indexers
    Download sites.
    Give out out invites if you have them.

    F^ck the MPAA/RIAA

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  • George RidDICK

    George Riddick here. I’m something of an expert when it comes to copyright, just google my name.

    Copyright is a cash cow waiting to be milked if you have your ducks in a row. Each and every one of you little bastards trying to steal George Riddick’s clip art will be on the receiving end of a demand letter (some call it extortion, I call it “public officials enforcing the laws I helped get passed”).

    I’m a one-man wrecking crew on my way to a pot of gold. My http://www.imageline2.com domain is impenetrable – the email & web servers are locked down tight. Don’t even think about putting out a bounty for someone to hack into my account. It can’t be done.

    • LMAO

      lmao
      i really never laughed out my chair on a tf article before but this ridDICK guy had me on the floor…
      which i could walk to girls and be like…
      “just google my name…”

      • Maroan

        Oh yeah, this is riDICKulous… ;-)

      • Samefag

        i smell samefagging

    • Anonymous

      hmm, i remember a similar comment made a couple of articles back by someone else, along the line of “Imma screw you if you download, my website is invincible, can’t be hacked, don’t waste your time, blah blah”. Probably just some trollfaces trying to impersonate him and stirring up shit

      Oh, and George RidDICK huh? More like George ShitDick

    • Hackers Wanted

      Someone please blacklist this guy from the internet…..

      • one

        I think he meant it as a joke. He spelled DICK in the upper caps

        • Hackers Wanted

          I know, lol Regardless of weather this was the real George Riddick or an imposter, the guy’s still a copyright troll….lol

    • Rawr

      “Major web site upgrade
      coming in November 2009!”

      Stay classy Georgey.

    • Idonthaveone

      Yea never even commented on crap like this but George RidDICK with dick in caps is obviously gay

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  • Anonymous

    I’m done with BT, I moved on to Usenet a few weeks ago and will never go back. Being almost completely safe is worth the $20 I pay per month.

    Too many fucking lawsuits.

    • one

      It is safe NOT! There are people get sued for downloading IDIOT!

      • afrowolf

        I’d like to hear more about this concept, as I have never heard of anyone getting sued for downloading from usenet. Can you back this up with references?

      • afrowolf

        I’d like to hear more about this concept, as I have never heard of anyone getting sued for downloading from usenet. Can you back this up with references?

      • afrowolf

        I’d like to hear more about this concept, as I have never heard of anyone getting sued for downloading from usenet. Can you back this up with references?

        • one

          Grrr… you still don’t get it don’t ya? *forehead smack*

        • one

          Grrr… you still don’t get it don’t ya? *forehead smack*

        • one

          Grrr… you still don’t get it don’t ya? *forehead smack*

    • sigh

      usenet is just as susceptible to these issues as bittorrent or file hosting sites are.

      but by all means…continue to think your paying for safetly

      • Free-Up-Loader

        People get paid to upload eh? Your living in a fantasy world.

        • TF

          lol wierd they would delete that comment and replace wit this fantasy world one…of course people get paid to upload to fileserve and hotfile thats why theres so many blogs

        • No

          People are so lazy… They will even not visit like a Hotfile website, and see that they are indeed paying per thousand downloads. That is i.e. why Rapidshare lost it’s popularity, as they have stopped paying, and others took their place… Personally, I am using One-click-hosters, and always in a free mode. I can find easily everything I want, and as my connection speed is 1Mbps, I am always getting a full speed in free mode, so there is really no reason for a premium account.It is enough to get a new IP for downloading next file, and even that can be done automatically.
          I’m not from the US, so even with BT I would be preatty safe, but I’ve decided to change from BT, as with o-c-h there is no need to upload stuff, so there is no “sharing” on my side. Uploaders still are getting paid, so it is a fair set.
          Also, I have noticed that I am using pirated stuff not so much as in the past, mostl because VoD (paid and free) have developed so much (at least in my country), and in case of the software – I am buying it, because it is my tool for my work.

        • No

          People are so lazy… They will even not visit like a Hotfile website, and see that they are indeed paying per thousand downloads. That is i.e. why Rapidshare lost it’s popularity, as they have stopped paying, and others took their place… Personally, I am using One-click-hosters, and always in a free mode. I can find easily everything I want, and as my connection speed is 1Mbps, I am always getting a full speed in free mode, so there is really no reason for a premium account.It is enough to get a new IP for downloading next file, and even that can be done automatically.
          I’m not from the US, so even with BT I would be preatty safe, but I’ve decided to change from BT, as with o-c-h there is no need to upload stuff, so there is no “sharing” on my side. Uploaders still are getting paid, so it is a fair set.
          Also, I have noticed that I am using pirated stuff not so much as in the past, mostl because VoD (paid and free) have developed so much (at least in my country), and in case of the software – I am buying it, because it is my tool for my work.

        • No

          People are so lazy… They will even not visit like a Hotfile website, and see that they are indeed paying per thousand downloads. That is i.e. why Rapidshare lost it’s popularity, as they have stopped paying, and others took their place… Personally, I am using One-click-hosters, and always in a free mode. I can find easily everything I want, and as my connection speed is 1Mbps, I am always getting a full speed in free mode, so there is really no reason for a premium account.It is enough to get a new IP for downloading next file, and even that can be done automatically.
          I’m not from the US, so even with BT I would be preatty safe, but I’ve decided to change from BT, as with o-c-h there is no need to upload stuff, so there is no “sharing” on my side. Uploaders still are getting paid, so it is a fair set.
          Also, I have noticed that I am using pirated stuff not so much as in the past, mostl because VoD (paid and free) have developed so much (at least in my country), and in case of the software – I am buying it, because it is my tool for my work.

        • Free-up-loader

          Nobody specified where the uploader was uploading or what he was uploading…..I upload torrents at a top-class tracker (which will remain nameless) and I don’t get a dime….I do it all for recognition and to help the community

          SHARING IS CARING!

  • Keeganh93

    So if you get one of these notices do you HAVE to settle? Or can you just disregard it and no one will remember? Because to me it seems like this is just a scare tactic that works with most people but they won’t really come after those who don’t “settle”

    • scaretactic

      Seems you have the option to settle, but if you choose not to, you will apparently have a date in court.

      The settlement is a scare tactic at first, but for some its the cheaper/easier solution than going to court.

  • Go EFF

    The EFF needs to be involved in all of these lawsuits. Their involvement in the West Virginia porn cases led to them being dismissed due to joinder, except for the first defendant in each case. Those same cases were re-filed by US Copyright Group in the DC Federal court with new lists of IPs, so I hope the EFF goes to the DC court as well. Also, the EFF was involved in the Mick Haig case by Evan Stone, one of the most prolific copyright trolls and most active by cases lately. The case was just dismissed by Stone due to the court and ISPs holding up the subpoena process, so they weren’t able associate IPs with names. I hope that the EFF is successful in the Illinois cases. The troll in those cases, John Steele (most of the trolls have porn star type names), has been sending extortion type letters demanding $2,900 or $7,500 if he doesn’t receive the $2,900 in two weeks. The judge in his latest case filed in December was already denying the subpoena process for all but the first IP in the case due to joinder before the EFF got involved.

    The lawsuits also don’t detail on how they’re collecting IPs. Many trackers send out fake IPs to throw off legal firms. The only way to know for sure that someone has the file is to receive part of the file and verify it. The receiving of the file in many of these cases would be illegal, since the “research firms” are checking torrents before getting approval from copyright holders and then selling the IP lists.

  • Jojo

    this will not end well for anyone

  • Ninja

    Dear US govt. Please tell me how you plan to jail those ppl and support their unemployment later. Thanks.

  • Bubba

    100000 virgin rectums for bubba in prison….mmmm yummy yummy

  • Scotty3gsm

    I like to see them try to sue me, I would laugh & toss the summons into my trash can. What a joke these people are, plus I don’t ever download porn, I may watch it every once In a while at somewhere like “PornTube” but I certainly Never ever ever download it.

  • Guest

    “Just multiply the 100,000 defendants by an average settlement proposal of $1000 dollars and it’s clear that tens of millions of dollars can be made with this dubious scheme.”

    Just like the RIAA loses $24.99 for every album downloaded!

  • Allyourbasebelongtous

    We need to sue the RIAA/MPAA

    and knock them up against the ropes

  • Gargamel

    Thank God I don’t live in the States :)

    • TF

      yea but jus keep listening to there music , movies, art , food
      lol

    • TF

      yea but jus keep listening to there music , movies, art , food
      lol

    • TF

      yea but jus keep listening to there music , movies, art , food
      lol

  • None

    Yeah, because porn is such an honest and ethical business to be involved in. It makes sense to also use honest and ethical tactics to enforce your content protection.

    Just think of all of those drug dealers being supported by the industry, single moms and their delinquents they raise, the “honesty” of these companies reporting their taxes…People, we have to make sure the porn industries “rights” are protected, or else we might not have a need for jails and the welfare system!

    This whole “porn companies have rights too” just reeks of prisoners demanding rights, even when they’re convicted of murder and have 30 years of appeals because of “rights”. The porn companies are criminals, the criminals are criminals, these lawsuits are criminal, and yes, file-sharing is technically criminal.

    Do two wrongs make a right, and do the ends ever justify the means? Nope. Of those 100,000 ‘sued’, maybe a handful will ever see a courtroom.

    In other words: Nothing to see here, move along. Make a donation to the EFF if you really want to make a difference – Last time I did, it was around 100$ and they sent me a buncha cool swag.

    • Anonymous

      Nice try sneaking that in, file-sharing is not technically criminal. Criminal implies the lawsuit is in criminal court and not in civil court. This is not a case by the police or state against you. File-sharing is also a very broad definition that also covers me sharing a home made movie with someone. And may i add that it is these kind of misconceptions (assuming this was ignorance) you help spread that make this such a lucrative scheme.

    • Anonymous

      Nice try sneaking that in, file-sharing is not technically criminal. Criminal implies the lawsuit is in criminal court and not in civil court. This is not a case by the police or state against you. File-sharing is also a very broad definition that also covers me sharing a home made movie with someone. And may i add that it is these kind of misconceptions (assuming this was ignorance) you help spread that make this such a lucrative scheme.

    • Anonymous

      Nice try sneaking that in, file-sharing is not technically criminal. Criminal implies the lawsuit is in criminal court and not in civil court. This is not a case by the police or state against you. File-sharing is also a very broad definition that also covers me sharing a home made movie with someone. And may i add that it is these kind of misconceptions (assuming this was ignorance) you help spread that make this such a lucrative scheme.

      • Ipiratedyourmom

        You’re right, it’s not technically criminal, it’s unlawful. But if the people concerned are committing copyright infringement, then it’s the owner of the copyright’s perogative to sue if they do so desire. That’s how the law works. While not so bad that it should land you in prison unless you’re doing it on a grand scale, it’s still illegal. Don’t split hairs.
        And yes, file sharing covers you sharing a home movie with someone, but YOU own the copyright in that so it is YOURS to share. If you don’t own the copyright to something and you share it, you are committing an unlawful act and are wide open to being sued.
        Seriously, how fucking dense are you peopl that you can’t get past this simple distinction of what you own and can decide what to do with, and what you don’t? Or are you so blinded by your OWN greed – not monetary perhaps, but the greed that pushes you to have absolutely everything you want, regardless of your means to properly acquire it – that you simply refuse to accept that what you do isn’t right in a civilised society?

        • Sword_of_rassilon

          Uh no & your a moron…
          Gee I should be sued for inviting my friends over to watch that new flick since they didnt pay to see it… God why are ppl today so fucking stupid anymore so brainwashed by government and media they actually defend the criminal MPAA communist scum… Please where is the next ship off this rock too many stupid retards living here…

        • Ipiratedyourmom

          The difference being, I assume you don’t hand out copies of the movie to your friends to keep and watch whenever they like when they leave. I’ll say it again – are you so fucking dense that you can’t get your head around this simply distinction?
          (I’d imagine the answer to that has to be yes, given that you think the MPAA are a bunch of Communists… I mean, seriously? Don’t use big words you don’t understand just to try and make yourself look clever)

        • Anti-Red

          Let’s not kid ourselves – the MPAA and 99% of Hollywood for that matter embrace EVERY radical Leftist agenda one could think of. Communists? Maybe not – but you can’t deny Hollywood leans heavily to the Left. Fact!

        • Ipiratedyourmom

          Where I come from, to the Left you’ve got socialism leading to Communism in its extreme, and to the right you have conservatism leading to Facism in its extreme. I’ve always associated heavily Capitalist leanings with the right (and no matter what side of the line you sit on with regards to piracy, surely we all agree that the industry standing is a Capitalist one, right?). I’m curious as to how you think Hollywood leans heavily to the left – and not trying to start a fight here (this time!), just genuinely curious as to your reasons. Do you mean as in the ethos of the individuals involved e.g. actors, or the ethos of the industry as a whole?

        • Guest

          These suits are typically reserved for civil court and resolve with judgments. It should be along the lines of a speeding ticket or jaywalking – in that its illegal, a lot of people do it, there isnt much of a stigma, and its just not a high priority.

        • Negrodamus

          May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits, you law loving, capitalist pig.

          We will take what we want and you will like it or die , it is very simple there is no other choice.

        • Ipiratedyourmom

          At least you know the difference between Capitalist and Communist. As for the rest, that’s, like, only your opinion, man. Take what you like for as long as you like, just don’t bitch and moan if the authorities decide to one day catch up with you and sue your ass into bankruptcy for it, that’s all

      • Ipiratedyourmom

        You’re right, it’s not technically criminal, it’s unlawful. But if the people concerned are committing copyright infringement, then it’s the owner of the copyright’s perogative to sue if they do so desire. That’s how the law works. While not so bad that it should land you in prison unless you’re doing it on a grand scale, it’s still illegal. Don’t split hairs.
        And yes, file sharing covers you sharing a home movie with someone, but YOU own the copyright in that so it is YOURS to share. If you don’t own the copyright to something and you share it, you are committing an unlawful act and are wide open to being sued.
        Seriously, how fucking dense are you peopl that you can’t get past this simple distinction of what you own and can decide what to do with, and what you don’t? Or are you so blinded by your OWN greed – not monetary perhaps, but the greed that pushes you to have absolutely everything you want, regardless of your means to properly acquire it – that you simply refuse to accept that what you do isn’t right in a civilised society?

      • None

        Alright, I cant say its “Criminal”. Thats up to the courts to debate and these charges havent really been tried in court as much as the powers that be would have liked.

  • None

    The x axis on the graph in the article doesn’t look very linear, making it somewhat useless.

  • None

    The x axis on the graph in the article doesn’t look very linear, making it somewhat useless.

  • None

    The x axis on the graph in the article doesn’t look very linear, making it somewhat useless.

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  • No

    It would seem they are hitting the major cities, if you sort by district.

    • No

      No, the lawyers are in major cities (foir the most part). The “Does” in the cases are all over the place

  • No

    It would seem they are hitting the major cities, if you sort by district.

  • sue me

    Sue me!

  • sue me

    Sue me!

  • sue me

    Sue me!

  • Pong

    Well, what are they going to to sites like xvideos.com and the others, where you just upload whatever you want?

    And I’ve told it before, and will tell it again, pissing off your own customers is not a good business strategy.

  • harry krishna

    guess i’m safe – 5 minutes is my max on a video. wish there was a search function for “<5min" on xhamster,etc.

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  • http://twitter.com/techlooser Tech Looser

    This is crazy. You can sue everyone in the states but what are you going to do about the millions and millions of people in other countries. Yes, you can put pressure on there governments but for how long.

    I am sure, someone will come up with another program to share files with more security and protection. This cat and mouse race is going to continue.

    Regards
    techlooser.com

  • cdcase

    100,000 doubt is the real number the porn studios may be trying to got those ids but how many of those have people even gotten letters?

    judges are already dismissing many of these cases cable companies like twc have already said we are not going to give the ids so i am sure 1000,000, is nowhere near the real number

  • radioman

    check http://zeitgeistmovingforward.com/ the dark side getting desperate ;}

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  • https://thepiratebay.org/user/man-o-tor/ manOtor

    Settlements shuold be forbidden in these kind of lawsuits!
    That would solve the problem – they’d never get a conviction in court, thus they had to stop their blackmail scheme.

  • Guest

    Does anyone know the answer to the earlier question – can the registered IP holder be held liable for what someone else does without their knowledge?

  • Anonymous

    Wait, is the porn industry claiming they can’t control who downloads pornography over the internet?

    That doesn’t seem very safe to me. It seems like our children might have access to pornography because of these producers. I think they should be fined for making pornography available to our children.

    Apparently, by their own claims, at least 1000,000 people were able to obtain the pornography they produced without anyone checking to verify that they were over 18.

    What’s the sentencing guidelines for 1000,000 counts of distributing porn to minors?

    Please, think of the children or else the terrorists win our family values!!!

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  • Negrodamus

    People who create material for public consumption, lose the right the right to compensation PERIOD.

    So Either all you actors, musicians, authors, software makers, etc… go out of business or contribute your works for free.

    Death to the capitalist pigs of the world!

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  • rxsteady

    maybe scawl an apology letter telling them your only 15 and you really enjoyed their movie and perhaps they would send you catalog so your when your parents get home from Coopers Barnes & Loyd they could help select just what to watch next, in a bluff, having not remembered anything about what exactly they downloaded

    • George

      they are the copyright holders, so there must be some kind of paternity to that… just as the United States is responsible to who they sell nuclear weapons to… or don’t, it’s just a matter of paternity and how responsible someone is when they in good faith produce a product for market which is moot such as in the case of land mines, cigarettes, and nuclear weapons. Do these porn industries murder innocence?

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  • Vagary

    I always wonder how these production companies get hold of the IP’s of the downloaders.
    In fact they must use a torrent client to identify the IP’s, hence, they are liable to lawsuits themselves, even if they share their own movie, it is not allowed as stated by their own conditions. But no one seems to bother where the “evidence” is being obtained from…..what about these judges, dont they think there is always cause and effect and investigate the origin of this IP “evidence” ???

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    Vagary: “In fact they must use a torrent client to identify the IP’s, hence, they are liable to lawsuits themselves, even if they share their own movie, it is not allowed as stated by their own conditions. ”

    You obviously have very little understanding of the basics of copyright law. Seriously my three year old has the concept and what it allows down better than you.

    • Vagary

      Well, maybe your 3 year old could explain why that is, instead of you just complaining like a 5 year old.

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  • Cantsay

    Google “Graham Syfert”, you can get legal defense documents for $20

  • Guest

    i can download music from searching through google…they must shut down google!

  • Zack

    Why do you have to be anti-semitic about a topic that has nothing to do with religion?

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  • JohnR

    I just got a Settlement letter from Steele yesterday for 2900$, I signed the papers and sent it into the mail since people are getting sued. Didnt know what else to do.

  • FUp2pgeeks

    ha ha-i hope all you freetards get sued and lose your house! I can’t wait! go kill yourself losers!

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