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Anti-Piracy Boss Denies DoS Attacks, Torrent Site Refutes Claim

Anti-piracy outfit AiPlex Software made the news last week when its boss was quoted in the press admitting that his company launched DoS attacks against uncooperative torrent sites. Although the reports and quotes were quite specific, the company is now trying to distance itself from the claims. However, correspondence obtained by TorrentFreak shows another side to these unorthodox Bollywood anti-piracy enforcers.

“When we detect a website offering a link or a download, we contact the server hosts and intimate them about the illegal activity. They issue a notice to the site owner,” said AiPlex Software’s Girish Kumar a couple of weeks ago. “If the site owner does not comply, the site is either suspended or dismissed.

AiPlex, a company working for Bollywood studios and charging between $4,290 and $8,580 to protect a movie, go further than your average anti-piracy outfit when people don’t co-operate with them.

“The problem is with torrent sites, which usually do not oblige,” said Kumar. “In such cases, we flood the website with requests, which results in database error, causing denial of service as each server has a fixed bandwidth capacity. At times, we have to go an extra mile and attack the site and destroy the data to stop the movie from circulating further.”

Understandably there’s a bit of a ‘wow factor’ associated with these claims, not least that carrying out DoS attacks against sites is a criminal offense in many countries around the world, even if you do happen to be working for the all-powerful movie industry.

Although TorrentFreak contacted AiPlex for a comment but never received a reply, others have had more luck. Last week AiPlex contacted the BitSnoop torrent site with a copyright takedown demand for a movie they are protecting on behalf of a studio. In their correspondence, BitSnoop took the opportunity to ask AiPlex about their unorthodox approach to dealing with uncooperative torrent sites. Surprisingly Managing Director Girish Kumar denied the claims.

“Our claim with the Editor [of the publication originally publishing his comments, article still online, unedited] was pointblank that we go an extra mile in identifying the IP addresses & other contact info of such illegal sites & pass such information to the production houses to pursue with the cyber crime police,” he told BitSnoop.

“Further if the govt. provides a permission to cyber police to attack such sites, Aiplex can help the cyber police in providing the technical inputs. That said, one of the common method one can bring down the site is DDOS attack is what was explained. This does not mean that we are doing such illegal activates while we are sending the copyright notices to Infringed sites.”

So given this statement it was quite interesting to speak with the admins at ICTorrent, a private Desi tracker mentioned specifically as an AiPlex target in the original article.

“This company has contacted us 100s of times in the past; None of their emails had a PROPER Copyright Infringement Notice,” TorrentFreak was told. Indeed, we saw copies of several emails where AiPlex demanded proactive action from ICTorrent to remove movie torrents that weren’t even on the site yet.

But scrappy takedown notices aside, what happened when ICTorrent failed to comply with AiPlex’s demands? Did they DoS the site or not?

“Yes, they have done it many times and failed,” an admin explained while showing us an email from AiPlex which stated simply: ict attack on. enjoy :)

“We have been dealing with this shit since Dec/2009 from them. We usually get attacked Thursday night till Sunday as this is our primetime to release PDVDs. They DDoS attacked us by sending 1 million requests from 10 to 100 IPs, we had to block all IPs. Our servers are installed with all modules so they will block automatically.”

“I have also made a call to the company and had talked to them to stop DDOS attacks,” an admin told us.

TorrentFreak was also shown a particularly surprising email exchange where a member of AiPlex’s staff asked for a copy of a movie due to him being “a die hard fan” of a particular Bollywood actor. ICTorrent refused the request and told him to download it from the site instead.

Another email clearly suggested that money could be made by both parties if an agreement was reached and ICTorrent was “helpful” with takedowns.

ICTorrent also showed TorrentFreak other documents which showed which movie company AiPlex were acting on behalf of, but asked us not to publish them. Yet.

Reading between the lines it seems that ICTorrent want to give AiPlex another opportunity to stop their DoS attacks.

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  • Arb

    aka they are breaking the law to stop a site from breaking the law.

  • rae

    but the site isn’t breaking a law as linking doesnt equal copyright infringement

  • Yarick

    So basically not only is AiPlex DDOSing a site, it is also threatening, conspiring to commit copyright infringement, and downright blackmailing. To me that is worse than sharing a movie.

    Please for the love of god release the name of the company so we can all know who the slimy bastards are that are funding these guys. All of this would be very embarrassing, if not completely damaging PR for any company.

  • lol

    Further if the govt. provides a permission to cyber police to attack such sites, Aiplex can help the cyber police in providing the technical inputs.

    cyber puhlecee

    you dun goofed

  • lulz

    Hahahahahaha.

    Now that that is out of my system, on to the commentary.

    I surely hope that ICTorrent is pursuing legal ramifications on the matter. They could nail that company and a studio to the wall with this one!

  • Anonymous

    All DoS attacks are not created equal.

    Just try doing this to Amazon.com or fbi.gov and see what happens.

  • Wilson Andrew Bolton

    Was this site down for anyone else for the last 8 hours? It was for me.

    Anyway, who wants to bet how much bribe money is going to the gov’t official from the company that hired Aiplex? My bet is at least 3.2 million dollars in bribe money, and I bet a banana.

  • Jessie Slaughter

    Consequences will never be the same :(

  • ahem

    Remember guys, in order for them to stop people from breaking the law, they have to break the law to achieve this outcome. And doing something as drastic as attacking a website Then admitting to it Always solves the problem, it never comes back to haunt anyone later on.

    /s

  • the dwarfer

    @ Wilson Andrew Bolton

    Yes torrentfreak has been down for me all day. DDos from AiPlex because they are being outed?

    [TF - our host has been doing upgrades to their main routers, should be all fixed now]

  • awesome

    obvious noobs are obvious

  • lulz

    @6

    What ICTorrent could do is setup a dns entry so that anything coming from those 10-100 IP’s for a DDoS would be sent over to whitehouse.gov or something.

    That would be freaking awesome. Worst case they get in trouble to aiding/abetting the DDoS, best case, AIPlex gets in serious shit.

  • Wilson Andrew Bolton

    @dwarfer

    I wouldn’t put it past a gang of thugs, so I wouldn’t put it past an anti piracy group. Is anyone else astonished the parallels between real gangs and these anti pirate groups? Also, how much bribe money is passing between hands behind the scenes?

  • BIOS HazarD

    This type of attack is akin to being The Batman. You can’t just take the law into your own hands and DoS as website. The ends may justify the means (and I personally disagree with their practices), but it gets them nowhere in terms of progress to stop these sites from hosting the media they are trying to stop from being posted.

    And going even further, its stories like this that make me go, “ICTorrent… orly? I will have to check that out.” How may people do you think now know about all these sites or about the existence of piracy at all. This is all a direct result of these ridiculous public attacks.

  • Wilson Andrew Bolton

    @15
    At least batman did something worthwhile, albeit difficult. These anti-pirates are trying to take on an impossible challenge. The only way to stop illegal piracy is to make piracy legal.

    And why does 14 remember me of the FreedomVPN guy?

  • Kaptain Krunch

    What’s the point with DoS attacks anyway? When one site is down, there are several others to choose from. Those ass clowns are not only using illegal tactics, but they are wasting time and money as well.

  • Pharaoh

    They backtraced it

  • Booger Bender

    I would suggest people to consider writing an api open sourced to create a hydra ricochet firewall to prevent dos attacks. for instance. On linux it is known to redirect attacks using specific options to nmap terminal triggers. Redirect attacker’s force to it’s own ip and log the ip to a blocker. Now, If you sever or kill a bot that redirects traffic 10 more are virtually spawned to pipe all traffic that’s defined within legal rules.
    Something like this would solve so much hassle. Anyone interested in starting an open source hydra ricochet firewall with plugins capability?

    Just a thought ya know..

  • nerds!

    If I worked for an “anti-piracy” firm whose only means to combat downloading was a DOS attack I would be embarrassed as hell! These guys can’t track down the people running that site and break some legs with baseball bats? Sorry but this looks like amateur hour to me.

  • p_m

    looks like some n00b with a bit of IT knowledge had the bright idea that he can make some money by being the ‘cyber police’.

    so easy to visualise him in an unironed suit sitting at the table of a Bollywood studio and explaining how he can provide security for their films “You’ve got a nice film here. We would not want anything bad to happen to it, would we?”

  • Bollywood movies?

    Not even worth illegally downloading. The movie companies are flattering themselves.

  • Annoying

    Who would want to download Gollywoog movies anyway :P

  • x

    @6… a zombie network with 1500 nodes should be enough to severely disrupt amazon’s availability (if you know how to lock up the maximum number of open connections the web server is configured to allow – it’s not that difficult).

    Many sites (ones that have just one dedicated web server) can often be nailed by just 250-500 zombie network nodes) – a network that can be gathered with a single nefarious torrent being released. ;)

    It’s too easy. Good thing distributed networking can be much harder to break when it’s built well! – kinda gives us the edge if stupid corporations want to be so idiotic that they choose to fight with denial of service attacks while it is they who are actually the most vulnerable to such efforts.

  • x

    Oh, and let’s not pretend this is anything new.

    The fasttrack network used to get flooded to death in attempts to exploit file-hashing weakness from a range of IP addresses belonging to PSI-Net a decade ago.

    Indeed, torrent trackers have been attacked like this in the past too – but instead of corrupting data, they only manage to flood users with data that gets rejected – having little more effect than temporarily slowing things down! :)

    Same thing as with most anti-piracy operations… they make it sound like they’ll be effective but truthfully, it’s just more artist/consumer money being pissed away in efforts that amount to nothing more than futility.

  • ex – desi

    i would like to know this retard running this company who happens to be SEO and as well in medical transcrpition whateva the hell it is, that WHICH act of IPC he is using or acting in, indian copy right acts in governed from act of 1958 , who dumb ass, there is no provisions in it for digital copying of files, i guess he knows that so he can’t even send real take down notice as there is none in current indian p2p scene , the studois also know it so they can’t act too , so they hire this ass who has IT guys working for him and think they can ddos anyone where ddos is crime under IT act of 2008 , he could be up the shit creek if some of those ip’s turn out to stateside , ict should into those ip’s and report abuse , and this guys is done forever. he is so lazy or cheap that he can’t even hire a real lawyer to worl on this , again for 2 reasons he just milking money form even more retatrted studios guys who live in 50′s , 2nd no lawyer will touch this as there no written law where p2p is applies . till date not single case has ever been filled in indian courts on this . they have to change the copy right act to even act on this :P though amendment to that act is in parliament which does have some provisions for p2p but knowing how things work it could be some years before it is even passed.

    for those who don’t know Indian govt already has as-secs to every ISP in real time to monitor for security they are least bothered about file sharing . while this guy is already breaking a written law for a ‘law’ which he is making up , both he and the movie studio could be in real serious shit if some ones acts on this.

    or so do the easy thing and put him out of his misery , just post his site link on slashdot or 4 chan the anons will take care him :P

  • Whatever

    Just 10-100 IP addresses, doesn’t seem they have a big network (if they are all sequential then it could even be from one physical site).

    Having an E-mail saying they are under attack and also a company employee asking for a movie seems more than enough evidence for the (cyber?) police to go after aiplex.

    @23 X
    I think #6 meant “treated equal”, if those sites are attacked there would be a few agencies landing on your house within hours.

  • Monster

    “and intimate them about the illegal activity.”

    The use of the word “intimate” here just dosn’t seem right, I even checked if there was another meaning that would make this a proper sentance.

    There isn’t as far as I can tell.

  • anon

    Aiplex Software Pvt. Ltd.

    Contact Address: No. 2943/E, 1st floor, Opp Maruthi Mandir,
    Service Road, Vijayanagar,
    Bangalore – 560 040,
    Tel: +91 80 2330 5411/12/13
    Mobile: +91 98451 28280
    Email: girish@aiplex.com
    Website: http://www.aiplex.com

  • x

    @26.. thanks, re-reading his post I see what you mean now. ;)

  • Anonymous

    Truly disgusting. Now they’re lying about it too.
    These are the real criminals.

    No government agency or organization within the public sector would consult people like this for advice on taking down a site if they had a legitimate claim to do so. They would also need to do so legally, and it would be in the form of a co-ordinated physical raid, not a cyber attack.

    The only people who would gain from this are the music and movie industry and they have absolutely no power to authorize anything of the sort.

    If absolutely anyone is attacked by these people at any time, record the IPs.

    If the IPs for a DDoS attack are coming from computers around the world it means they’ve probably got infected computers they’ve either bought as part of a botnet or infected themselves to initiate the attacks.
    If these bots are from the US they’re gonna be in a whole load of shit.

    If it’s just a simple DoS attack it should be easy enough to set something up to deny those specific IPs they have set up from doing anything. It’s also very important to report all of this straight away.

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  • FuzzyX

    AiPlex is in deep shit if you ask me.

    Not only do they do unlawful attacks on websites but they freely confess to their crime in the press. Then to top it off evidence of actual attacks are proved by one or more victims.

    Would the Police please ask their local court for a search and seizure warrant so all of AiPlex’s crimes be exposed along with the unlawful acts of those they worked for.

    Remember peeps it only takes one victim to report this and bye bye AiPlex.

  • Anon

    Im ashamed to be Indian

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  • Anonymous

    “Further if the govt. provides a permission to cyber police to attack such sites,”

    This guys is an idiot and a liar. There is no way the government will give permission to DDOS a site for any reasons. That would still be illegals in most countries.

    Ddos attacks are damaging to the net infrastructure because it causes a bandwidth hog affecting other sites.

  • Anonymous

    These morons at AiPlex leave evidence of their illegal activity all other the internet with their Ip address well exposed. But this not enough. They still fell the need to brag about it officially and send incriminatory Emails.

    What a pack of idiots!

    Just let sue them to BK.

  • Anonymous

    You sir, smell of curry and DDoS.

    Bollywood. I’d rather pound my balls flat with a wooden mallet as watch any of their fail culture. Their business model seems to revolve around making movies that are so cheesy and bad that they would have to pay the viewer to watch them.

    The whole thing is a huge waste of time. It’s akin to building a museum with state-of-the-art security to house the world’s biggest dog turd.

  • Gnu mad

    If I could just interject for one moment:

    “Piracy”

    Publishers often refer to copying they don’t approve of as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that it is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them. Based on such propaganda, they have procured laws in most of the world to forbid copying in most (or sometimes all) circumstances. (They are still pressuring to make these prohibitions more complete.)

    If you don’t believe that copying not approved by the publisher is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it. Neutral terms such as “unauthorized copying” (or “prohibited copying” for the situation where it is illegal) are available for use instead. Some of us might even prefer to use a positive term such as “sharing information with your neighbor.”

  • Ninja

    I said it once. It’s Bollywood… Shitty content.

    And India doesn’t have a fair legal system as far as I could get from the news lately..

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  • mave

    AiPlex is going get ripped by Indian geeks (who like cheesy Bollywood movies xD)

  • TerribleTony

    “Cyber Police” lol!

    You now have 15 seconds to comply.

  • Robin

    torrentfreak is a big player in associating filesharing with criminal “piracy”

    it is largely due to the efforts of this site that filesharers are today broadly viewed as murderers and thieves

  • Girlish Cum…aaaaaarrrh!

    Aaaaarrh, me rum swiggin’ brig rats – ye can has torrents. Savvy? =)

  • ca1v1n

    I wonder if this explains why rarbg has been so darn slow the last 72 hours…

  • hi

    Give me the name, and I will **** their severs up

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  • Mr. Giggity

    “When we detect a website offering a link or a download, we contact the server hosts and intimate them about the illegal activity. They issue a notice to the site owner…”

    Did you mean to type intimidate? I’m confused here lol!

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  • smew

    India you say?

    Huh.

    Yeah, there’s a surprise.

    Mad skillz.

  • smew

    Oh dear dog. From their site. Exaggerated claims, poor english, and abuse of tired jargon. How very India of them:

    Welcome To AiPlex

    Aiplex Software Pvt. Ltd. is one of the leading providers of healthcare (Medical Transcription), Net Vigilance (Anti movie piracy) and Search Engine Optimization (SEO) services to clients across the globe.

    Aiplex has a blend of technology savvy & process driven dedicated team bringing about a paradigm shift in rendering customized solutions to its clients. We have steadily grown in reach and service offerings with a favorable cost-benefit ratio & keeping pace with the emerging business needs of our customers.

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  • Aamir Khan

    Its by Aamir Khan Productions. google it and fuck ‘em.

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  • Angie

    stop porking mann.
    ict is just doing an great job ….
    serving 1000 of ppllsss with entertainment…
    keep up the goodwork ICT…

    long live ICT…

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