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Anti-Piracy Group Responds to Media, Not DRM Breaker

This week a man reported himself to an anti-piracy group, confessing to breaking the DRM on more than one hundred movies and TV shows, in an attempt to draw attention to unhelpful copyright laws. Now the anti-piracy group has taken the time to respond, not yet to the man in question, but to the press.

Frustrated Danish citizen Henrik Anderson recently reported himself to anti-piracy outfit Antipiratgruppen for breaking the DRM on more than one hundred legally purchased DVD movies and TV shows for use on his media center.

“As the law is today, you can not have a media center without breaking the law,” he told TorrentFreak.

“When I think of a media center it is a place where you have all your movies, pictures and music together. You can only do that by having a digital copy of the movie.”

Henrik told us that he had taken this action to draw attention to laws which allow him to copy DVDs for his own personal use, but forbid him to remove the DRM in order to do so. In his confession he asked Antipiratgruppen for a response by December 1st, indicating if they are prepared to take action against him.

The group has announced that Henrik will indeed get a response, but didn’t tell him directly, instead preferring to comment via the press.

“It is a political matter, and we have sent it to the Association of Danish Videodistributors so they can consider it. But Henrik Andersen will get a reply by 1st December,” said Antipiratgruppen lawyer Thomas Schlüter to Comon.

Schlüter went on to say that proving this type of infringement is usually impossible.

“Unless people confess, then it’s impossible to prove that they have broken copy protection. We can not break down the door to people’s homes and explore what they have available on their media server,” he said.

Poul Dylov, director for Warner Bros Denmark and chairman at the Association of Danish Videodistributors, said they will have a meeting next week to decide whether to report the matter to the police.

Dylov added they have not previously encountered a similar event, and consider the confession to be a media event, an assessment with which Henrik agrees.

“Of course, until now the film industry has not met the intentions of the law and as the culture minister will not force the film industry [to allow copying by removing DRM] by changing the law, then there must indeed be an awareness of the problem through the media,” he explains.

“But the whole problem lies in a sense with the Minster of Culture who does not follow its own interpretation of the law and the intentions of it. This gives the film industry an easy ride to the detriment of consumers,” he added.

All will be revealed here, on or before December 1st.

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  • Mr. Wacko

    oh well…

  • http://www.eZee.se www.eZee.se

    “Unless people confess, then it’s impossible to prove that they have broken copy protection. We can not break down the door to people’s homes and explore what they have available on their media server”….. UNTIL ACTA comes into effect anyway.

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  • WTF

    Copying your own DVD’s that you have bought onto your computer/media centre is a infringement?

  • skakidd

    @3 read the entire archives of torrentfreak for a detailed example

  • jimmy

    In what countries is removal of DRM on bought items a cival offense?

    Also has anyone ever been sued for this?

  • Lothor The Evil

    @3 WTF
    Quote: “Copying your own DVD’s that you have bought onto your computer/media centre is a infringement?” End quote.

    The law states a person can have a digital copy of media that they have bought legally. Then the law states that a person can not break the copy protection, decrypt, crack, or whatever, to copy it. So it is a catch 22 damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. Personally I think the laws are contradicting. Says one thing, then turns around and says another. :P

  • Anonymous

    it is in denmark, dont think anyone been sued for it yet

  • Anonymous

    Obviously they’re trying to decide if smashing this guy into dust will help or hurt their image…

  • Sendaii

    Poul Dylov, director for Warner Bros Denmark and chairman at the Association of Danish Videodistributors, said they will have a meeting next week to decide whether to report the matter to the police.

    I think I might be missing something here. They can’t seriously be thinking of reporting something this trivial to the police. I mean, CSS can be broken in seconds by any modern computer. For God’s sake, he purchased the DVDs legally, and they are going as far to consider criminalising a paying customer?

    Oh, wait, that’s nothing new.

  • NDyA

    In Poland if it’s impossible (or illegal) to make a backup copy, you can have distributor send you one free of charge (so says the law). That’s the theory, I didn’t try it in practice. Some say it works, but is totally troublesome, as distributors aren’t keen to do this. I even hard of case where a customer took the distributor to court and won his right to free of charge backup.

    Well, but it still comes with crappy DRM, so it’s not a solution really. It used to be legal to do whatever you want with your purchase.

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  • lol

    @9 well he openly admitted breaking the laws of his country so no one is criminalizing him for anything he did that himself. There is NO other way to look at it. However I can see his point of view if he does indeed get arrested and charged with this offense it’s going to look even worse for the anti piracy group, as well as make the law look like a complete ass, because it’s clearly contradicting itself. I hope he manages to pull something from this because everyone knows DRM is useless.

  • Nea

    @8: they’ve never really cared about anything else than money, I thought that was obvious.

  • realityBytes

    If anyone should walk away from these comments remembering one phrase or sentence of what was said here, it is simply what Sendaii posted:

    “He purchased the DVDs legally, and they are going as far to consider criminalising a paying customer.”

    ^^ There’s your MPAA/RIAA characterized in a brief statement right there, it’s perfect.

  • prodigydancer

    FAILED
    they have

  • AlienDK

    This whole thing is kinda lame. He BOUGHT these fucking movies/tv shows and he can’t do what he wants with it? Whats next? You cannot paint your house red if the International Association of People Agaisn’t Red Houses does not want your house to be red?

  • Johnny

    So there is no difference between watching a movie you paid for on your computer and a movie you downloaded without paying… both are illegal! Why would you even bother to buy a copy then?

  • Lothor The Evil

    @15 Johnny
    Quote: “So there is no difference between watching a movie you paid for on your computer and a movie you downloaded without paying… both are illegal! Why would you even bother to buy a copy then?”

    Exactly. They treat us like criminals just for buying their products. Just more proof online “piracy” is the industry’s fault.

  • Paul London UK

    my understanding is that had he had just downloaded the items he already owned on disk, then that would have been less serious, perhaps because he could have claimed that somebody else did the codebreaking.

    This guy is very brave. But it puts the media companies in a very tight corner, if they dont sue to protect their rights – then it would look like condoning it for all to follow. On the other hand they may have to sue what would otherwise be a perfect loyal a big spending customer.

  • albinoblackrabbit

    Drm is just encoragement for piracy. I bet people would buy the stuff if there was a decent alternative with no drm to
    creat situations like this.

  • Sendaii

    @11: That’s not the point. There was no way that he could rip the DVDs to his machine without breaking the DRM. It’s a catch 22. The media companies get their cash AND they are considering reporting him to the police for what any sane person would class as fair use, against the law or not. If he had ripped the films to upload to the Internet, I could understand if Warner Bros. wanted the police involved. However, he ripped them so that he could use them with his media centre, and he stated that in his letter. The fact that something like this can be against the law in a civilised country is ridiculous, and there is no way that you can convince me otherwise.

  • Seamus McG

    Can’t wait to see how this turns out. This guy should the “Brass Balls of the Century” for his effort.
    If I could I would buy him a beer or whatever he prefers (or as many as he can drink). A real man amongst men. This is the kind of selfless act that makes heroes of ordinary men. If he is made to “walk the plank”, people should protest it the way they did for TPB.

  • Seamus McG

    Damn, add “get” between “should the”!
    Stupid no edit thing!

  • knux

    Isn’t this the same AP group that is shutting down? Now I’m freaking confused…

  • Sendaii

    @22: Not shutting down. They have just dispensed with suing individual people as they kept losing in court because of insufficient evidence.

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  • CDXX

    If you actually read all the copyright laws, they pretty much state that if you do anything with the media that you just BOUGHT, other than leave it at the store after you bought it, you are committing copyright infringement. I mean, look at that lady that got the letter for trying to throw the Harry Potter themed dinner. Right there they were telling everyone,”Sure we encourage you to go buy our shit. But if you do anything with it, even what it was intended for, we will sue you. Just leave it in the package and put it in your closet.” I mean, seriously, you can go to Wal-mart and buy Harry Potter themed party supplies, but according to them, you can’t use them.
    The copyright laws need to be changed for the better of the public. Right now they are set up to help the major companies ONLY. Not even the people that create the works are getting any use out of these laws. It is ridiculous. There needs to be a law that puts people that file frivolous lawsuits in jail…

  • diarRIAA

    I’m sure they’re meeting at this very moment behind closed doors brainwashing law makers right now removing peoples right to have a backup of their media purchases.

    I’m quite sure of it…my pirate senses are tingling….feeling…weak….feeling….can’t…..type….oh noooooooooooooooo

    *blip*

  • Haha,,,

    This guy is either very smart or very stupid…
    We’ll see which one it is soon.

    Regarding breaking the DRM to make a copy – when you watch a movie using DVD software, the DRM is broken and a non-DRM copy is created in memory.

    So either watching a movie is illegal and the company is liable for a making defective product, or you can grab the non-DRMed copy into a file legally to get a back-up.

  • Anonymous

    Intellectual property is the leftover from the combustion process.

    Like the sun consumes hydrogen so does the market, it consume ideas and as more and more are spend the market starts to dim because there is not enough fuel to burn anymore individual particles can’t interact with spent fuel and the light dies LoL

    Intellectual property locks away the resources needed for a vibrant market and it will fail catastrophically eventually like a supernova :)

  • Holly

    What an idiot, if he felt that bad, couldn’t he, you know, stop doing it? Instead of possibly ruining his life? Like a fine he’ll most likely never pay off, criminal charges, jail. I could understand if he felt guilty for killing someone but piracy? Some people..

  • kos

    well its all the movie and music industry’s fault they created this mess in the first place for what they created they should be taking the blame on what they have done they should be a shamed of them self

    shame on u this is not what the Intellectual property were meant for

    shame shame shame on the music and movie industry’s

  • Anonymous

    @27
    I see what you are saying but in today’s world that doesn’t happen. About the time a company runs out of ideas, they simply purchase a smaller company that has fresh new ideas. After a little rebranding and repackaging the parent company has a new idea that they can make money from.

  • hmmm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement

    ^crazy stuff… A little scary actually.

    Id recommend that every makes regular practice of the use of encryption with a program such as truecrypt.

  • Anonymous

    “It is a political matter”

    Yes it is. Let get ride of all these corporate parasites.

    They did enough damage to our societies already.

  • Anonymous

    I will wait until they sue me then I will declare to the court that I was just kiding!

    Then I will stick my middle finger at them!

  • BritSwedeGuy

    Mandelson laughs sinisterly and strokes his white Persian cat.
    “So, we need confessions do we?
    MWA HA HA HA HA!”

  • steve

    Look at the amended copyright designs and patents act 1988 and you will see that breaking DRM is a civil breach in the UK.

  • Anonymous

    sdewqe3k xcvghui

  • Jigsy

    “Unless people confess, then it’s impossible to prove that they have broken copy protection. We can not break down the door to people’s homes and explore what they have available on their media server,” he said.

    How long before the British gov’t decide to do this?

  • Brandon

    Yeh, Those Media Centers, DVD players, dvr’s dvdrw’s blank dvd’s all should be banned. You should spend at least 20 bucks a dvd (even though its a steaming pos) to Watch it at least once. We dont want those maffiaa gangs to go hungry…

  • aussiebear

    At Post #5…

    “In what countries is removal of DRM on bought items a civil offense?”

    => I know Australia is one. Read through their amended copyright laws. (changes were made after we agreed to sign a Free Trade Agreement with the USA).

    Essentially, breaking any form of copy protection in Australia is technically illegal.

    “Also has anyone ever been sued for this?”

    => Interestingly enough, anti-piracy groups have no interest in taking legal action against individuals in Australia…They see ISPs as the gateway to the web, and so they have gone after them instead. Hence, the reason why AFACT vs iinet case.

    Of course, who knows what will happen if AFACT loses.

  • Anonymous

    @30 Nov 08, 2009 at 07:04 by Anonymous:

    How do a big company buy a smaller company that don’t exist?

    Patents kills small business that can’t afford the legal costs for securing and defending it.

    Why do you think the internet is so vibrant?

    Because it has a lot of control?

  • No-name

    “Unless people confess, then it’s impossible to prove that they have broken copy protection. We can not break down the door to people’s homes and explore what they have available on their media server,” he said.

    And yet, they do the same things with our “digital house”, invading our privacy. It’s the exact same thing when you think of it.

  • gorehound

    Hey this is just one reason why I no longer bother to buy any new movies.I HAVE STOPPED !!!! I am supporting Indie Films & Music not corporate assholes.
    Just wait for ACTA……cause if it comes to USA I do hope all hell breaks loose for the greedbags.

  • Whatever

    Missing the MAFIAA support comments here… But then again its not a working day.

    But very strange that:
    a. the antipirate organization is incapable of taking the decision themselves.
    b. The (an)other organisation needs a (board)meeting to decide IF they should tell the police that a single customer has done something illegal.
    c. They call it a “political issue” instead “the law is the law”.

    If one confessing paying customer can use up so much time and resources of those 2 organizations then more Danish people should confess (to a slightly different offence each) to bring those organizations to a halt.

    Nice how he has given them a catch22 .To sue or not to sue. Both may result in the laws being reviewed and maybe even changed.

  • Rboy

    I guess the solution is buy the media and download the media. That way you have a digital copy which you did not personally break the drm.

    Stupid ass copyright jerks

  • Ninja

    Actually, on the HP themed case they warned the woman because she was actually making money out of the party and it was themed with their copyrighted stuff. However the action they took was a shot in the foot as she just had to change the words to make it legal and they got quite a few angry people turning against them. Bad marketing move. The sensible thing would be toe explain the situation to the promoter of the party and asking to offer HP official products to the people in the establishment to make things legal. Easy, painless and good for their image. I’ve come across some kiddy super heroes themed party here where they were getting $10 per head to cover the expenses. Technically you can’t prove all the money was used to the party…

    Anyway, the point Mr Anderson is trying to show the world is how copyright laws need revision. So far he has succeeded into drawing people’s attention to the matter. He has steel balls for sure if you considered how far the media industry can go to suck money from the people. However it is also true he left them in a very delicate position where any path they take is a losing one. If they sue they’ll ruin their image even more, if they don’t they will lose money and admit their methods are wrong. Either way the damage has been done and the word has been spread.

    Let us hope it leads to a sensible review of the laws and maybe, just maybe, the industry is knocked back to its sense and starts finding a business model that can co-exist with the so called ‘piracy’ actually giving them money. Ideas for that can be found reading consumers and pirates opinions. And that’s one of the things that make internet a so damn wonderful thing.

  • your name here

    [blockquote]“Unless people confess, then it’s impossible to prove that they have broken copy protection. We can not break down the door to people’s homes and explore what they have available on their media server,” he said.[/blockquote]
    But I’m sure they’d like to, god forbid somebody would copy a movie they legally bought onto their own media center!

  • MD3

    I see the end of DRM looming.

  • Anonymous

    brave fellow :)

  • Kickass_Sid

    Waiting for December the 1st

  • United Hackers Association

    and it took me 3 minutes to make a VERY VERY scarey looking ip list screenshot with utorrent

    further proof that not only can such evidence be faked that with more time you could make it impossible to tell

    in other words all evidence using computer screen shots cannot be reasonable evidence of a crime as there is reasonable doubt as to authentication of said evidence being heresy

  • Alex G

    Fuck em.

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