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Anti-Piracy Patent Stops Students From Sharing Textbooks

A new patent granted this week aims to stop students from sharing textbooks, both off and online. The patent awarded to economics professor Joseph Henry Vogel hopes to embed the publishing world even further into academia. Under his proposal, students can only participate in courses when they buy an online access code which allows them to use the course book. No access code means a lower grade, all in the best interests of science.

For centuries, students have shared textbooks with each other, but a new patent aims to stop this “infringing” habit.

The patent in question was granted to Professor of Economics Joseph Henry Vogel. He believes that piracy, lending and reselling of books is a threat to the publishing industry.

“Professors are increasingly turning a blind eye when students appear in class with photocopied pages. Others facilitate piracy by placing texts in the library reserve where they can be photocopied,” Vogel writes.

The result is less money for publishers, and fewer opportunities for professors like himself to get published. With Vogel’s invention, however, this threat can be stopped.

The idea is simple. As part of a course, students will have to participate in a web-based discussion board, an activity which counts towards their final grade. To gain access to the board students need a special code, which they get by buying the associated textbook.

Students who don’t pay can’t participate in the course and therefore get a lower grade.

The system ensures that students can’t follow courses with pirated textbooks, as tens of thousands are doing today. Lending books from a library or friend, or buying books from older students, isn’t allowed either. At least, not when the copyright holders don’t get their share.

Vogel’s idea leaves the option open for students to use second-hand textbooks, but they still have to buy an access code at a reduced price. This means publishers can charge multiple times for a book that was sold only once.

Needless to say, publishers are excited about gaining more control in the classroom. Anthem Press of London has already expressed interest in the system and Pat Schroeder, president of the Association of American Publishers, also welcomes the idea.

“For every rogue site that is taken down, there are hundreds more demanding similar effort. I can’t think of a more timely example of the need for additional tools,” she says.

On the surface the idea might seem well-intentioned, but to proponents of an open knowledge society it goes completely in the wrong direction. If anything, the Internet should make it easier for students to access knowledge, not harder or impossible.

While it’s understandable that publishers want to stop piracy, preventing poor students from borrowing textbooks from a library or friend goes too far.

Perhaps it’s a better idea to approach the problem from the opposite direction.

Thanks to the Internet, publishers are replaceable. And since many of the textbook authors are professors who get paid by universities, it is not hard to release books in a more open system.

Professor Vogel believes that sending more money to publishers helps academia, which might be a flawed line of reasoning. Isn’t it much better to strive to make knowledge open and accessible, instead of restricting it even further?

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  • http://twitter.com/unthekno nthekno

    this is the dumbest fucking thing someone could have ever come up with

    • Erin

       I agree, I have 3 college degrees, and 9/10 I can only use the book one time and can’t even sell them back because the series is updated(new front cover) rendering last year/semesters books obsolete even though the information is the same in them. Its a total scam.

      • MasterJ633

        I Fully Agree.

        I currently have at LEAST 10 Different College Text Books sitting on My Dresser, because they wouldn’t accept them back, and/or i would have only gotten like $5 to $10 back for a book costing over $100+

        I would expect to get at LEAST Half the Book’s Cost Back, rather then $5 to $10.

        I agree it’s a Total Scam too.
        Now a days, we are paying just as much on books as we are on Tuition. (For those who pay a lower, instate Tuition and not go to a Major University.)

        They Keep Releasing Newer and Newer Version of Textbooks, and only change a few things, reword maybe a few chapters, problems/stories, just so you can’t reuse the previous versions.

        I remember in a Business Class, Version 8 and 9 of the Textbook were Very Close to the Same.
        Only main difference with a few stories and the questions/problems for the assignment.

        And of Course, the Teacher would mostly ask “Select” questions, which were the ones that were changed between the versions, so anybody with version 8, would have to rebuy the version 9.

        I haven’t been able to take ANY College Classes Since Fall 2010 because No Place will give me a Loan.

        At least from what I’ve heard, My College I went to doesn’t do the whole Access Code, at least yet.
        And I seriously Hope they don’t. It is a Completely Retarded Idea.

        • Juanita W. Profit

           make knowledge open and accessible, instead of restricting it even further? http://GooleByGetJob2012.notlong.com

        • Anonymous

          “And of Course, the Teacher would mostly ask “Select” questions, which were the ones that were changed between the versions, so anybody with version 8, would have to rebuy the version 9.”

          What about going to the library and using the copy on reserve?  Photocopy the “select” problems when you get the homework and you’re good for the rest of the week.

        • FinalApokylypse

           @eech1234:disqus
          That’s doable assuming said book was in the library and not on loan.. even if it was though. That’s still going out of the way to bypass a step which should not have even occurred in the first place.

        • RileyEscobar

          You sure do like to hold the shift button down at random times, don’t you?

        • Pesticide

          Yeah except that college libraries usually don’t keep the most updated version of every book. Even colleges don’t have that much money to keep their libraries up to date with new versions every year. So what chance do the general public have?

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Riley, putting things in caps is meant to mean emphasis on the internet. Apparently, you haven’t realized that.

        • Will

          Christopher, he was referring to the fact that pretty much almost every word’s first letter is capitalized.
          Apparently, you haven’t realized that.

        • http://s4c.in/S6S1 Joyce A. Wheeler

           I seriously doubt it would even be legal to influence grades based on where the books were purchased. http://CBCJobGetPosition.notlong.com

        • john-doe unite

          i totally agree with you on this, its a total scam 

        • Anonymous

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        • Snarky

           I totally agree.  Christopher is capitalizing too many words.

        • Anonymous

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      • McCheezits

        >pay someone to scan all of the pages from your textbook or d.i.y
        >upload the scanned copy to TPB
        >????
        >non-monetary profit

        • James

          @5ff9fdf303491f5a5b6b821d1ad57af6:disqus Like this pic.twitter.com/uMEOoAEK

        • Anonymous

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        • Gjhkgjhkj

          @71bdcc827fb974bf0687c2aac916e258:disqus : Just like that, but in digital form

          btw use Imgur or Anonmgur. I had to trawl through 2 twitter pages to see your pic. Funny though.

        • Pablo

           thx, bookmarked them, also try stfimages owned by sharethefiles

      • Ni_preeti

        Exactly. If they would like the publishing industry to not die, then they should start printing academic books on cheaper paper, paper back copies, and not come out with a new edition every year that makes the previously $100 book be worthless. 

        • Diosj

          I mean seriously. How is this any different than including the price for the books  into the yearly school fee? 

          Can you really get a patent for wiping with your left hand these days?Something else… I seriously doubt it would even be legal to influence grades based on where the books were purchased.

          If i was one of those students i would spend all semester finding prior art. lol.

        • Anonymous

          Not trying to defend the publishers, but science related textbooks need to be updated frequently. I hate it when they include obsolete data that was proven wrong years ago. 

          And on personal note, I love hardcovers.

      • N.

         When I was a university a few years back my lecturers told us that if we couldn’t afford new the campus bookshop has second hand copies but we should be quick because the numbers are limited.
        But then again I live in the UK not in the money grabbing State that is America.

        • Asdf

           When I was in uni a few years back my lecturers told us to just go to the nearest photocopying place (which was inside the building) and take a copy of everything. God bless Brazil, I guess?

        • Kaushik

          I’m really surprised by the prices of text book in the US. In India, we use the same books – Indian reprint – that costs less than 10% the original book.

        • Indian

          Kaushik, everything is cheaper in India but we also get 5% of the average salary that US folks get. So in the end it hardly makes any difference. And look at the condition of our currency and economy. Its down in the dumps. Even if the same $100 book costs only $10 here in India, its an expensive proposition to buy such books.

        • Kaushik

          Text books are actually quite affordable in India, at least, it was when I was in college 8 years ago. For example, an average college text book costs about Rs300. To put that amount into persecutive, you can catch a movie in a multiplex for Rs300, but you can’t buy a decent tshirt for that much.

          In the US, the average text book costs $100 (from what I’ve gathered from other sources). You can buy a pair of jeans and tshirt for that much OR a freaking graphics card for $100.

          Rs300 is not much in India, but $100 is a lot even in the US.

        • Kaushik

          persecutive=perspective.

          Damn autocorrect!

        • Mak D’Uniq

          @43919ebc2497439c920e1aa022ab20ac:disqus everyone in India doesn’t go to multiplexes. they are students below poverty line studying in government college for engineering. For them 300rs is like 2or3 day salary. now for a semester we need 6books. now how the f*** one is going to buy those books? assuming 500rs per book. 500*6=3000 that’s like one month salary. And cant borrow books from library is f***ing ridiculous.

        • minorsquabbles

          When I was a university I was dreaming.

      • Brian Kessler

        I thought Calculus I was completely different last year than it is this year…  You mean I paid $199.95 for this brand new book, when I could have got the same information in last year’s book for only $5?

      • Jjmblue8

        I got really lucky with a few books. one was a math book that cost $150, and I used for 3 courses over 2 years and was still able to sell it back for $50, the cost per course for that book. Another book I bought used online, turned out to be new with the plastic cover and everything, and sold it for $30 more than I paid for it.

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      • Anonymous

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      • Anonymous

        Thank goodness I live in a place where “international editions” are available. Same book, different super cheap price.

      • Callithrix

        Why they are obsolete? As a university professor I always encouraged my students to buy the textbooks, which are 1 or 2 editions back. In terms of money, they cost $3-5 instead of $120.

    • Anonymous

      I agree because my school already does this. BUT — They don’t allow authors to do it unless they also offer the codes for those who don’t buy the book. Books aren’t as universal as they used to be. Some people prefer ebooks, blind people need braille or audio books.

      Also if I fail a class, I would change schools before I bought the same book twice for a fuc­king code.

    • free education

      I disagree….. He is NOT “dumb”.

      He is a cunt of a human being.

      • McCheezits

        You deserve an internet for using cunt on the internet and not getting moderated. Well done.

        • Anyone

          “cunt” is only offensive if it’s not true

        • Pompus

           Cunt is only offensive if it isn’t washed….

    • Mark

       I agree, this is just a f***ing dick of an idea. Does anyone who comes up with ideas like this really intouch with the real world? I read articles like this and wonder if i am dreaming or is this world really full of stupid people who just live in there own bubble of a wolrd, and try to include other people in there messed up world…

      • No1_2_u

        You’re not dreaming.

      • Guest

        Mate we are right and they are wrong, I can’t believe the shit ive seen today for example.
        First TPB is blocked on my internet connection just this morning. (Got loads of ways to get around that but still)
        Then i watch the manny pacquiao boxing match and it seems judges just decided to give the fight to the other guy. But he didn’t win! Seriously, the points show he didn’t win but they just gave it to him anyways. What???

        Oh yeah and finaly worth mentioning someone tried to break into my home on thursday night, they could smell my weed and decided they wanted it :( Fuck this planet

      • Ruthie

         If this economics professor were smarter he would have been a Wall Street banker.  Ripping off students is chump change.

    • Sobxdform

      Lets see.  Buy one code.  Check out the projector from the AV lab.  Display on huge white wall.  20 students covered baby.

      • http://twitter.com/RebelTrooper09 Stephen Fox

        works in theory but the code is not for the text book. it is to allow you to access the online discussion boards. which is stupid because most schools have their own we site that has discussion boards for each class

      • Dude

         Yeah, you don’t buy the code, you get it free with a new version of the book (which will cost you about $100 on average).

    • Spgw85

       Unless (hopefully, in the near future) universities start employing professors who don’t require textbooks for their classes. There are a lot of us teachers out there (myself included) who make a conscious effort to make our own notes and worksheets so that the students don’t have to fork up their own money

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/LGU5I4ETSGLT2NXPUYUTFOLM7Y Banksy

        The entire linguistics department at UC Santa Cruz, save for the very first intro class in the field, is taught without textbooks. I definitely learned more in my Syntax class than I ever have from a class taught with a textbook. The downside is that if I get sick and miss a day, I’m fucked.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Why would you be fucked? I’m sure that they could record the classroom stuff and then you could play it back at home.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1033620038 Jenise Spiteri

        You are a great teacher. I love when teachers don’t use textbooks. In my experience I learn a lot more. Instead of “Go read two chapters at home and then take a test on it the next class” it’s a much more personal experience. If I just wanted to read a text I’d buy it on my own and save the tuition money. I go to school for a reason- to learn from the teacher, not a book.

      • http://romkyns.myopenid.com/ Roman

        My Computer Science degree at University of Cambridge, UK required zero books. We got fantastic notes from every professor. Everyone also received a ~$250 grant towards course books, of which I used $15 at the end of the last year, just because I thought I should buy _something_. Got a first, too.

        If the textbook publishers go out of business, well, I have no problem with this whatsoever. Non-viable businesses shouldn’t exist, even if they used to be viable.

        • Anonymous

           It is like that where I studied at University of Southern Queensland.  For most courses, the university provides all the course-ware online.

        • Nik

          You do realise that Cambridge Uni Press, helps fund Cambridge Uni?

    • Andrew Lee

      Well put rofl! This idea is right on the line with holding a lightning rod in a storm while holding 2 live wires and standing in a bucket of water while you let a blind man try to shoot an apple off your head with a tank.

      It’s fucking perfect nothing could possibly go wrong.

    • Tsunku

       next will be laws allowing the shooting of students who even think of using someone else’s textbook!

    • VENDETTA384LIFE

      This is rather… stupid. The fact you have to now “buy” your grade? Is that where college is going? Okay sweet ill buy myself an A in the class. Or… if i need the class material i can pirate it with a torrent someone cracked… Im sure the professor wont mind me doing that!

      • Jon7272

        only if you are rich. if poor well good luck .a system like the usa got money you got health care , education, decent lawers ,good quality food,,oh and housing if your poor. usa dont want you leave please you are cramping the riches style here in aus its a little better we got health care for the poor hex for uni students , the courts and the food and housing thing though different story 

      • EricPost

        I don’t agree with this, but I don’t see it as buying your grade.

        What it is, is being able to afford the college in the first place.

        It;s like going away to school is more than just tuition. It’s books, fees, dorm, food expenses etc. You have to really think about the total cost of your degree. And if those added costs will allow you to get a job that makes up for them

    • Guest

       Knowledge is free.

      • Anonymous

        Or at least it should in any country where socialism is not a dirty word.

        • Anonymous

          Since when is socialism is a dirty word

      • Abc

          Knowledge is free.

        But that  BA or BSc is gonna cost you.
        And it’s going to cost you even more, if you want the chance to qualify for a scholarship.

    • puddipuddi

      341 likes?  Is torrentfreak getting a surge in traffic here?  Liked :)

    • Pretentious Cockhat

      Excuse moi, but I’m a book publisher and this is a brilliant idea! This shall guarantee that my children can enjoy a marvelous future full of sports cars, hookers and blow. I’m sure if you were rich and beautiful like me you’d agree, but I reckon you’re just another lefty empoverished student. My condolences.

      • Nigger

        Hahaha oh god. Oh man, tell me how you’re important again, please.

      • Rich Weed Kid

        Well you’re in luck sir I’m rich. I have 50 grand (my weekly pocket money) here take it.

        Haha I’m at the top of the top 1% in my school you losers!

      • Anonymous

        Heh, a publisher who either can’t spell or proofread …..

        I know, I know /s

      • Funny stuff

        I think it’s pretty funny that two of the three responses to this post actually think he’s serious, but this really is a bad idea, a lot of students can barely make ends meet as it is.

    • Guest

       No, its really smart. Just incredibly greedy.

    • Sketch

      i agree, its one thing for some rich asshole professor to get rich riding the backs of loyal students, but telling them they MUST line your pocket or get a bad grade is just fucking extortion……..fuck thos academic asshats.

    • MooCow1

       ..  Dammit .. this is a deliberate act to make me fail ..
      I shall rebel and rob the Uni Book store instead..
      Lookout for me and my skimask at your local UniBooks

    • Chuck

       Sounds like a good time to start a crowd sourced college… hmm…

    • theguywiththebrains

      Indeed its flawed too, whats to stop someone going a book shop and pretending to text while looking at the book and writing the code in a text or photographing it i mean most phones have cameras, or even, buying the book from amazon and then returning it after getting the code…

      Patent flawed probably not even legal, in most counties… copying academically is fair use in the uk for example….

    • Another broke college student

      josephvogel@usa.net, and jtomikorobles@yahoo.com appear to be the emails from his webpage.    if anyone would like to send him their opinions… I advise you do so.   be nice, but at the same time, rip him a new one!

    • Miki Kadubec
    • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

      Dumbest thing you can do is go to college/uni.

      Start your own business.

      • Rockstartower

        One would argue knowledge is more powerful than money. 

    • What_the_fizzuk

       Not only is it the stupidest and most obvious fucking idea, it’s been done since they invented online courses.  They awarded a patent on the “invention” of putting a website access code inside the cover of a book that someone has to buy as part of a college course?  What kind of idiots do they have working in the patent office?  This is the complete opposite of an original idea.

      I am so glad that every paper I’ve written this year has been extolling the merits of eliminating copyright entirely.  I can’t even remember the last time I used non-open source software by choice; and I look forward so much to the day when all knowledge is like that.

      • Superdaccount

        Agreed. Copyright is a cartel. It is no longer being used to protect the original artist. It is used to keep the status quo.

      • JohnGustavsson

        Imagine if this patent was donated to the Pirate Party and they would use it to block usage. If a university or publisher would use the code system, they would get sued by the Pirate Party.

    • jannamadden

      wouldn’t you rather play with this hot stuff right here!? http://mpidyong.tumblr.com/post/24949414808/this-is-making-me-sweat

    • Patrick Chenier

      Amen!

    • Anon

      EA sports came up with this “idea” in 2010 to stop used game companies/rental companies/kids trading games from cutting into their profits (they made it so users had to buy a code to use the online content of their sports games). 

      So not only is this guy a douche-bag, he is an unoriginal douche-bag (which is probably why he needs to rely on gimmicks to get published)

    • Compassion Knowledge

       you guys need to bitly your Twitter links otherwise w/comment it allays goes over the 140, and doesnt get retweeted by me  n e ways.

    • Steve-o

      Whats wrong with making the cost of the books cheaper in an attempt to reduce “borrowing” and therefore more affordable

  • Anonymous

    This is a HORRENDOUS overstepping of boundries of the highest degree.  If this is allowed to continue, then the ever growing problem of student debt, and the inability of students to attend school, will skyrocket.  I’m currently in college for CS and I saved myself close to $700 by buying books used.  I didn’t “pirate” anything, and I paid my tuition and fees.  Those are already amazingly expensive as it is.

    This is quite literally stabbing the students of America right in the heart.  These publishers who are suffering so much release a new edition of their book EVERY YEAR.  This will contain perhaps a paragraph or two of changes, but charge students $200-$500.  I can’t even begin to describe the disgust I feel toward this man.  I sincirely hope this doesn’t become commonplace.  It will only hurt the students.

    • Anonymous


       I can’t even begin to describe the disgust I feel toward this man. ”

      You took the words right out of my mouth man. I mean this guy is really the biggest jerk of them all. I mean, we already pay tuition, what more do you want? There are many students out there, whose parents save their entire life savings just to sent their kid to college. I mean, think of all those mothers and fathers sacrificing.

      And now this con artist comes along, and demands that you use HIS books, so that he can make a quick buck off of you. Its like you need money to buy grades dammit!

      Like you said, this is HORRENDOUS. There are many international students in American universities right now, that cannot afford more than they already pay; I know many of them personally.

      When I was done reading this article, I was like WTF!!!!!!

      I mean knowledge is not yours to contain. You did not invent calculus, you did not invent arithmetic, so why the hell are you charging for shit that was given to you for free.

      I guess those crazy christian priests were right….the world is coming to an end!

      • Glib

        Don’t forget, it’s not like professors are exactly “hurting” for cash.  I completed an Electrical Engineering degree and, for the most part, my professors were essentially useless; available to us for ~2hrs a week AT BEST + the 3 classes I was paying them to “teach” me.  They teach about 3 different classes per week, and I recall the only professor I had during my entire 4 years that was paid less than 100k/year did not have a doctorate.

        The book scam is notorious, but students have zero power to change anything.  I photocopied just about every textbook I had once I passed 1st year, and I’d likely have caused quite a problem for the professor that stopped me from doing so.  I do remember an algebra teacher telling me I couldn’t have a photocopied book, which I then informed him I didn’t care what he thought.  Thankfully, class had ~300 people, so he couldn’t exactly reprimand me as he had no idea who I was.  Also, professors don’t mark anything ;).

        • Sabrina

          Not all profs make big bucks! I’m an adjunct professor which means I make basically nothing. 

          That being said, I created “textbook” that covers exactly what we need in class for the semester (notes, lab activities, description of assignments/projects, etc.). I send it to the campus bookstore, and they print b&w copies of it. These sell for as much as it costs to print them (anywhere from $6-$11, depending on how verbose I’m feeling while writing and preparing for the semester). My students can photocopy it and share with their friends all they want. 

          Every semester I have publishers trying to schmooze me into signing on for a textbook contract. But I guess I just remember how hard it was being a student myself. My colleagues think I’m nuts for thinking knowledge should be free (or as close to it as it possibly can be!). 

      • Sabacat

          “Its like you need money to buy grades…”

        Exactly!  Why bother hiding behind book “access codes”?  Why don’t we just starting writing them checks directly? .  Of course it’s not just colleges that do it, they just happen to do it on a grander scale.  The whole ‘buying grades’ thing starts out as early as kindergarten when the teachers give ’100s’ on the first day of school for bringing in antibacterial gel and Kleenexes.  By middle school you might even run into a super lazy fat old teacher about ready to retire, and you can bribe her entire letter grades with nothing more than pretty potted plants and some candy.  Fortunately that wasn’t my child, but it was fun to watch! …It was an entertaining year! :) 

      • Tunku

         the true object they desire is a populace who forgoes going to college because of the costs associated, so the usa population will wind up ignorant because of copyrights and/or patents. just dumbing down courses and not properly teaching wasn’t working well enough so now they have a new tool to prevent students from learning! then one day 50 yrs in the future they will be upset and can’t understand why so many americans are patently ignorant and will refuse to believe it had anything to with something they did. i feel truly sad that my generation was the last generation to actually be taught anything properly. i also pity the generations that followed as teaching methods have become ‘it’s in the book, don’t bother me’. also for some reason my comments seem to disappear as this one will surely do. i guess i say something that offends discus and am thus banned from commenting via their system.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001430139583 Darren Mason

          It’s a win/win for the banks/government, poor people can’t get educated and the middle class graduates will end up so deep in debt that it insures they will be good obedient wage slaves for life.

        • Ruthie

           MIT is starting to put their classes online for free.  This is exactly the opposite of the mentality of this professor.  Eventually, you will be able to complete a degree from MIT online, but you will have to pay something if you get credits toward a degree.  This guy and his kind will go the way of the dodo bird.

    • Bwygant

      Even if you aren’t an English major, the credibility of your opinion goes way down when you use the word “literally” as a form of exaggeration instead of its correct definition. That’s just my opinion. “This is quite literally stabbing the students of America right in the heart.” No. No it isn’t. Stop using that word. 

      For the record, this is the most hilariously out-of-touch idea I have ever heard and will never succeed on a wide scale.

      • Derp

        You seem butt-rustled, friend. There’s nothing wrong with using literally to exaggerate in this way. Perhaps the deeper meaning is lost on you.

        • Ab

          In fact, Bwygant is correct. Using “literally” is meant to communicate a reality and differentiate this from exaggeration. In effect, a way of saying “no shit, it is exactly  the way I’m describing it”.

        • Ben W

          Yes, why use words to mean precisely what they mean instead of not?  It must be opposite decade!

      • Pilgrimman007

        Enjoy being the only person that gives a flying fuck.

      • Jon7272

        you must be related to the professor word nazi lol 

      • EricPost

        It’s used as an idiom. Like antisemitic, means against Semitic people but it too is idiomatic. Thus antisemitic only refers to being against Jews, not Arabs or other Semites.

        Grammar and spelling in English don’t have official rules. The whole point of grammar is to make your language clear and understood. The fact you understood the use of the word literally, means the writer conveyed it correctly and it is grammatically within boundaries. 

        • alma

          They do have rules……

          But breaking them does not necessarily degrade the meaning conveyed.

          So, agreed.

      • Rockstartower

        Communication is being able to express the thoughts from one person to another. As long as you and the rest of the readers can clearly understand the intentions and thoughts the writer is trying to express there shouldn’t be an issue. You don’t need to be concerned about the specifics, you understood the intended meaning. 

      • Ruthie

        From the Merriam Webster free dictionary online meaning for literally:

        1. actual  2) virtual

        “Since some some people take sense 2 to be the opposite of sense 1, it has
        been frequently criticized as a misuse. Instead, the use is pure
        hyperbole intended to gain emphasis, but it often appears in contexts
        where no additional emphasis is necessary.
         
        : “Of course, the PAID version of the dictionary may differ and may very well support your point of view.  Please insert bitcoin for code now..

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1033620038 Jenise Spiteri

      Well said

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RVGGZ4GVYI4H76AJCH25QKHQQI Mike W

    This patent doesn’t really do anything other than give Vogel (or his college, depending on who reaps the benefit) some income should any universities decide to implement the idea.

    There is absolutely no reason for colleges to start using this system unless they start getting kickbacks from the publishing houses, of course.

    • YarickZan

      Kickbacks? About as likely as a blizzard in hell. This is just another way for publishers to keep higher education on lock down so they can make money. What’s sickening is it’s specifically targeting one of the already most vulnerable groups. Students have enough debt as it is with actually paying the tuition which is rising all the time.

      How do you keep someone rich? Keep a lot of other people poor.

      • McCheezits

        Where’s Robin Hood when you need him?

        • CLL

           WE are the new Robin Hood.

        • Techanon

          Who do you think is administrating thepiratebay.se?

    • savagejen

      Professors often are the ones to choose the books, and are notorious for choosing their own books.

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  • Belstain

    This isn’t anything new. Math classes have been using a similar system for years. 
    They bundle the mandatory homework software with the new books so if you buy a used book you still have to buy an access code to do your homework and they only charge $10 or $20 less for just the access code. So basically you are stuck paying $200 or so either way.

    • shuu

      but that also functions as a tool for teachers to organize problem sets and grade it, which is necessary for math classes – you can’t expect to not assign problem sets for math. however, not all classes require that sort of constant work – and if this system is put in place, it is likely that teachers will merely implement some sort of perfunctory “post once so i know you’ve bought the access code” system on these “discussion boards,” thereby not extending a student’s knowledge at all while wasting money that could be better used pursuing other academic interests, or hell, just paying the fucking ridiculous tuition at american universities.

      • john doe

        “but that also functions as a tool for teachers to organize problem sets and grade it, which is necessary for math classes ”

        Seriously, it’s totally uneeded. Only lazy-ass instructors would depend on such tools. How do you think Math teaching was done in the last centuries?

  • Anyone

    and they wonder why copyright is so hated

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1033620038 Jenise Spiteri

      This is actually opposite of copyright law. Copy right restrains holders from having control after the first sale of their book/cd/whatever. Once you’ve purchased it you can do whatever you want with it (except copying and selling/giving away copies: however you can copy it for your own personal use if you want, as long as you are the owner). This is called the First-Sale Doctrine. Look it up

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

     There is no law or breech of copyright by reselling a book. In fact many indebted students are forced by financial realities such as student loans to sell their previous years books to put the money towards the next year’s course material and keep their debts down.

    I think it wont take long for any university or examination board to find themselves in court or a government education regulatory body to explain themselves

    • Ab

      Let’s see what happens when all libraries are forced to close.

  • Moose

    This won’t be implemented, textbooks are way too expensive, I hope he enjoys paying the patent fee.

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  • Someone

    Of course, this will bring a lot of money for publishers, and they will be screaming hooray. But do you brainless publisher really think this would continue for ever and ever and ever? Well, good try.

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  • Protesters

    SO the professors can now charge and make a profit from creating content not available unless you pay them a ransom to access it. Why the hell are we paying university fess  then, should we not just pay the professors directly and they can hire the lecture halls from the university. Are the professors not being paid to teach, is that not what we pay university fees for?? I want to see them try this in my town, protests!!!!, i don’t think anyone has seen the protests this will bring about.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1033620038 Jenise Spiteri

      This patent wouldn’t make money for professors as far as I understand it. It only makes money for the patent holder, Vogel, and the textbook companies who will be able to sell more new copies.

      • EricPosf

        Supposedly the professors will benefit as this:

        Professors need to get published to survive and increase their careers. But if students copy it means less books. Less books means less authors. Less authors means the professors won’t have the opportunity to publish and their status and maybe even jos will be on the line.

        This will help more professors publish be increasing the need for published books.

        Not that I agree with this at all, but that is the line of thinking.

        • Bad service = root of all evil

          Imagine the following situation. You have lecture held by professor X. Professor X is a fan of this Vogel-guy (Vogel = Bird (German) -> he has the brain of a pigeon? XD). This exam that follows his lectures require from you a certain book. A book, whose author is surprisingly Professor X, costs money. And since lending/copy/etc. even small parts of the book all of his students, who HAVE to take this exam, will also HAVE to buy it. It is not uncommon that a lecturer provides materials from his/her own work (books or papers). We have a nice business here, which is all but good for the education of all of us.

  • http://profiles.google.com/orfetheo Orfeas Theofanis


     Lending books from a library or friend, or buying books from older students, isn’t allowed either”

    Lending books isn’t allowed? Are you fucking kidding me academic nazis?

  • Onemoar

    josephvogel@usa.net,  jtomikorobles@yahoo.com
    everyone send this idiot a email

    • MOAR Please ?

      I am sure there are lots of students out there……
      who would love to send him some gifts of tasty pizza !

    • https://whattheserver.me/ WhatTheServer

       Sent this fucker some emails thanks
       he should be ashamed of himself this is def one of the ludicrous ideas ever

    • Shelf

      I’m reading some of his work now. Verbose and irrelevant discipline-wank, the monkey is being made to dance for his tenure. The kind of writing that nobody would pay for unless… coerced.

      It’s always the ugly people that want to make breeding mandatory

  • tonyj

     A patent to stop students from sharing, coming from an Economics Professors… HA! HA! That’s really funny!

    Let me think, off the top of my head, avoid his class! Duh!

  • Pianogamer

    I thought the reason tax money were payed to all these professors is so they produce free knowledge? Why sold centuries old knowledge be resold each year? While it’s not as curricumly organized on wikipedia, it’s still all there for free…

    • TROLL THIS CUNT

      This guy must have improved the “theory of relativity” ,”Classical physics” ,”Math”,”Chemistry”, “English” , “History” ,”Geography” etc……

      Or he is just out to rape kids of their money.

  • tonyj

    My professors promoted sharing text books, they all thought it was stupid and silly to buy texts books for only a couple of chapters of the text. 

  • Student

    When I was younger, my mum would use a rubber to erase all my sisters work from her textbooks and then I would use them when I reached her year. Saved about 60.00 euro a year. This guy sounds like a prick

    • FREE education

      Did that as well.

      We also handed textbooks into the school at the end of the year to give (for FREE) to other people next year.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Lindsay/703987 Robert Lindsay

      Wow, your mom sounds like she really cares about you. That’s very sweet to go through all of those pages and erase the answers so the next kid can do them. Hah, I remember my mom used to photocopy my Spanish worksheets from class before I used them, because she knew I would need them all again for the exam. Moms are really cool when they care.

  • Pissedoffstudent

    SERIOUSLY FUCK OFF.

  • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

    What happened to kindness? What happened to the common goodness of humanity? Where we share our knowledge. What happened to education?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001430139583 Darren Mason

       It got sold to the highest bidder, greed rules this world now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000617943487 Máté Bikfalvi

    As a student myself allow me to say that what they want to do here is simply disgusting.

    Making textbook buying compulsory is simply legal blackmailing. Not/ Owning a textbook shouldn’t affect your grades. Unfortunately as someone who lives in Romania I know all too well that some morally ambiguous professors force the students to buy their books, however on contrary to what Vogel and co. want to do, these book cost $15 tops and not $150. Not to mention if the whole branch wouldn’t be corrupt we could even report the professors, but when even the law/rules will be with these pricks you as a student are pretty much fucked.

    I know that if I’d ever get into a situation like that of Vogel’s I would simply not buy the book. Fuck him and fuck the publishers. Instead of this they should reduce prices and see the money flow.

    • Prof

       As a professor, this is revolting. Wanting students to have textbooks is one thing, but I could care less about the edition as long as nothing significant has changed.  If my university implements this, I simply won’t have the online sections graded.

      • Tandgnissle

        I doubt you teach English, but as a professor, someone who teaches; don’t use “could care less”. It’s just plain wrong and shows that you actually COULD care less, meaning you actually care a bit about it.
        More on topic I agree that this is black mailing really. At least in my school the teachers kept their notes about homework and assignments from previous years so that we with older books wouldn’t need to get the newest editions.

        • Superdaccount

           Another one is “irregardless” Which means the opposite of what it’s generally thought to mean.

  • Blackbeard

    “The system ensures that students can’t follow courses with pirated textbooks, as tens of thousands are doing today.”

    Because god forbid we should get more educated students.. -_-

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1033620038 Jenise Spiteri

      Yeah that’d be horrible. There’s already too much competition to get jobs. If less people can get an education those of us who have them will have an easier time.
      *eyeroll*

  • Drake

    So basically, we have to pay more money because having old content is piracy on wheels and despite the fact when you buy the book, you reserve the right to do with it whatever you please. Oddly enough though, the thing with the Music Industry with CDs, you can lend it, or let a person buy it from you. I find it rather ironic the an economics teacher is doing this as well.

  • Duke

    Isn’t this just a case of “pay the publishers for bonus marks”? Why not extend it further to “for every $ you pay to the publishers you get n marks”. Or even to “for every $ you pay the professor you get n marks”? Oh wait, that’s bribery…

  • a-non

    Is America actively trying to make itself dumber?

    • The guy

      Being an american, I can tell you firsthand:

      Yes, they are, and I feel like one of the few people here who actually keeps his sanity and wishes for freedom from any and all copywrong abuse.

    • Literally

      Is that actually possible?

    • IDIOCRACY

       Watch the movie similar to my nickname :D

  • Homerg88991

    I think this is capitolism – plain and simple.  Don’t l;ike the concept, don’t participate.  What’s so hard?

    • a-non

      Capitolism? it’s blackmail, plain and simple.

    • FREE education

       Guess you are too poor then…….

      *Capitalism NOT “capitolism”

      • a-non

        Fuck me, can’t write anywhere on the internet without a basement-dwelling grammar nazi retard saying they know better.

        • FREE, Education

          omfg … the important part was in Bold
          And it wasn’t directed at you.
          I couldn’t give a flying fuck about your grammar. I knew what was meant.

          I do find it funny that @dffc526ec38040f0305421c2281b5d1d:disqus ‘s , pro-capitalism at the expense of educating people comment….. had spelling mistakes.

          You wrongly took me for a “grammar Nazi”,
          ( did I correct “l;ike”  ?..was my correction , not related to the CONTENT ?)
          ( did I correct you ? even tho I knew what you meant ? )

          You IGNORED the meaning of my comment in context.

          Grow a sense of humor and …. seeing you called me a “retard”

                                        LEARN

                             TO
                                                       SPELL !

        • paulx1

           ffs your write who gives a fuck whitch way you do things thy are just trying to dull your minds down and stop you from learning things

        • Anonymous

          Nazi*

      • Anonymous

        The neologism makes more sense, the more you think about it.  “Capitolism, n.: The act of using government resources and monopoly guarantees for one’s personal economic benefit.”

    • Happyartist

      >>Don’t l;ike the concept, don’t participate.

      Quit school? Accept lower grades because you can’t afford to pay for higher ones? I guess that’s not hard, but it’s not even close to right.

      • Homerpeter1527

        Basically, yes.  As soon as one finds out the prof “requires” the purchasing of a code, drop the course and switch classes.  The “power” is in the hands of the consumer on this one.  Of  course switching is inconvenient & whining is easier for some.  The “system” banks on teh whining, not the effort to change to another class.

        Many, many apologies to the spelling gurus who were offended by my hiccup.

        • FREE, Education

          Was offend by the meaning of your comment.

          The spelling was just a way to poke back at your argument.
          Surely you can see that ?

          If not, see the pic

        • Free education

           Was the content I was amused by.

          http://i.qkme.me/3pnu35.jpg

        • Yourface

          You are entirely a fuck wit. Consider the fact that most of us are unable to afford to just skip classes that require such things. Consider the fact that if we were to skip some of these courses, we would be forced into taking an extra semester, or two, just to complete our degree, which means paying even more money to these arrogant ass wipes.

  • Matt

    Apaulling. I am completing a degree in CS currently. I have yet to need a text book for any of my subjects. Lecturers and Tutors always teach me enough based on the textbooks they buy. Sure some people buy them, but I have never seen the need  or had the money to so why should I get lower marks as a result.

    • EricPost

      For the same reason a professor can require you to come to class. If you can go to class twice, pass all the tests with straight A’s why should you get a lower grade? You know just as much as the person who came ever day right? But professors do lower grades based on attendance.

      There are a boatload of colleges in America. If you can’t afford all the fees find one that you can. If you have your heart set on it, simply save up and take a few years to do it.

  • http://www.francky.me Franck Dernoncourt

    This moron shouldn’t be allowed to be professor.

  • Anonymous

    I would agree with this IF and only IF all books are priced $0.99, not more.

    I used to buy all my books back in the day and same as everybody else, by next year, the book was ‘obsolete’ plus I paid over $500 each term, which is outrages.

  • Poopookachoo

    “… Professor of Economics Joseph Henry Vogel”

    You spelled Professor of Evil wrong…

  • foff

    WTF.  The contract is between the student and college not the students and the publisher and the college.  This is absolutely crazy.  I fucking go to college to get an education not to fucking give business to a professor or publisher.  The whole publish or die bullshit needs to die.  Professors need to earn their living teaching and not worry about publishing worthless texts.  There are hundreds of chemistry, physics, math, medical books etc for which the basics do not change, we really fucking don’t need more unless something new important comes along.  

    Again what we have here is a great tool in technology where we can have several texts and solution keys available to help to study, thanks to sharing and the internet and greed and stupidity have to ruin that great tool instead of encourage it.  Even the poorest people and schools can have access to libraries of texts without being independently wealthy.  On the one hand educators are saying education is for the betterment of mankind but on the other they are saying it is a business, no one deserves knowledge or education unless they pay through the fucking nose for it.   May be higher education is not so noble after all.

    • Dickturpin

      Foff, I like your point there; how can they patent ideas and theories that belong to other people Newton, Einstein etc. If they charge for these books they should be charged with fraud/libel/plagiarism/copyright infringement. Or all students should demand their money back after they have used their books if they didn’t get the grades that they expected, in the UK we have the Sales of Goods Act if something doesn’t do what it is sold to do then you can return it and get your money back if these cnuts say that you have to buy their books to pass and you don’t pass at least you can get your money back!!!

  • Anonymous

    sorry if i have got this wrong but are these professors paid a salary for their teachings in the various colleges or do they teach for free and rely on nothing more than the sale of books to earn a living? if the latter, i can see them earning even less than before thanks to this idiotic move. if the former, what the fuck has it got to do with any of them anyway if ‘piracy’ is absolutely rampant, as they are being paid regardless? hopefully this professor will be sacked from whatever position he holds at whatever college and told in no uncertain terms the harm he has now done by stopping a lot of students from taking particular subjects. typical attitude of earning a fortune from copyright being right and people sharing being the scourge of the universe!

    • http://twitter.com/blackhole0173 Erik McClure

      Professors are paid a salary to work at colleges. Most of them do not write their own textbooks – only professors who write textbooks and publishers will benefit from this.

    • EricPost

      Part of a professors jobs (at a lot of colleges but not all) it to publish. Salary is only part of it. The more academic papers and books they publish the greater their salary and benefits are.

  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    Even mpaa and riaa’s dumbest decisions can’t compare to this one -_-

    • Happyartist

       You underestimate them. They have their best lawyers on it as we speak. They’ll come up with something soon that will redefine the limits of human stupidity.

    • The guy

      Agreed, this is a new low in the history of Idiotocracy.

  • Shitaphor

    “Others facilitate piracy by placing texts in the library…”

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    Burn the libraries! Burn them all!

    Breeding grounds for feckless poor people.

    No money to be made there… BURN THEM!!!

    (Wanna buy an access code?)

    • Holiday

      If I could “like” your post a million times more, I would. Nicely said.

  • http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/ SJD

    Mr Vogel, I have a better idea for handling a course, much more streamlined. My  (hopefully patented soon) idea is far superior as it saves hassles of managing online codes, uploading texts and checking forum participants’ activities; hell, it saves the hassle of teaching! It is as simple as this: a student write you a check, and you hand him a grade. Bigger the amount, higher the grade. Ingenious, isn’t it?

    I would go over the benefits, but sorry, have to run to the patent office otherwise someone else will beat me on that.

  • Arya

    Where did this criminal get his education?

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  • Freja

    I find it hard to believe universities and most lecturers would be willing to implement this truly disgusting scheme.

    If any university did, one would hope that the hackers stepped up to the task and cracked this code asap.

    I went to uni before the internet era and remember having to shell out a fortune on books, as well as the “revised edition” trick that is used to try to force students to buy new books instead of second hand.

    These books were so damned expensive it was plain unbelievable at times. Thin little compilatons for EUR 100. They know very well that the students have no choice but to buy. They deserve the piracy!

    This is something that the USSR had right. Plenty of good books were written in those days, but nobody was able to get rich from it. Everyone could afford the books though, they were the price of a metro ride.

     

    • EricPost

      How could you crack the code. The company would have a list of codes that were PAID for. If you had a code that wasn’t on that list, you would get the lower grade.

      Cracking codes is easy, making them appear as being bought is a bit harder

  • Guest

    Then what the heck is the education tax for if we can’t get textbooks for free?

  • AngerandHate

    Scam

  • Guest

    In this day and age, the College system is already rendered completely obsolete for 90% of majors just by the existence of online information sources like Wikipedia. All you need is a stable Internet connection, a class syllabus, and possibly a professor’s Powerpoint slides and you’ll probably learn everything you need to know about a subject (and those are all freely available).

    And yet we keep paying these festering, outdated, corrupt institutions tens of thousands of dollars per year per student. And on top of that, the publishing companies bribe professors and universities so they can milk even more money from students.

    Incidentally, how in the world did this dork manage to patent something so incredibly simple? I’m not seeing what in this whole process is patentable. On the bright side, by charging a fee to run this scheme he’s almost guaranteeing it won’t see wide adoption.

  • Teachin For The Right Reasons

    I’m sorry, as you know this class is sponsored by mcdonalds, and you’ve come to lessons again without any burgers or even your compulsary mcflurry. I’m afraid you’ve just failed english literature…

    If this c*nt of a professor cant get his textbooks published by a publisher ‘because of the threat of piracy’, why doesn’t he just publish his work for free on the internet? Because he’s a greedy motherfucker, that’s why. Simples.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RXKKBKKUTHOEALMONWW3GE2RPA John Sorger

    This greedy, corrupt, monopolistic economics ‘professor’ obviously knows nothing about economics. He must be a Keynesian. 

  • Guest

    Dear professor, if I happen to be your student…

    First, I’ll violate your copyright
    Second, I’ll violate your patent
    And finally, I’ll violate YOU!  

    • Mr Anderson

      YES … JUST ALL AROUND YES

    • McCheezits

      I’d just stay at violating his rights atm…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gear-Mentation/100003097514663 Gear Mentation

    This actually seems to me to cross a line that even the MAFIAA has not stepped over.  At what point do we start using the word “Evil?”  I think that line has been crossed by the MAFIAA, but I’m fairly certain of it in this case.

  • Noone

    Just yet another example of someone who doesn’t live in the real world. Troll springs to mind for this professor, similar to Andrew Crossley, saw an opportunity to con the big boys out of a wad of cash to implement an idea that will result in more life’s being destroyed.

    Careful prof karma a bitch, ask Andrew.

  • http://rdonch.pip.verisignlabs.com/ SpecLad

    Reminds me of The Right to Read…

  • GUEST

    So he just found a way on how to maximize income after all those years of studying and research. What a twat.

  • Guest

    Are you poor? Then too bad. You aren’t allowed to acquire knowledge. Just go work some menial job for 60 years or so before staggering off and dying in a gutter somewhere. That’s all you lower caste peasants are good for.

    That’s what this all amounts to. Holding down the poor masses so that rich, priveleged motherfuckers can elevate themselves even further above all those stupid regular people. After all, the less people who can afford an education, the more special that makes you for being able to afford it. 

    For his efforts to limit education to the upper class beautiful people and condemn the  rest of the world to ignorance, Joseph Henry Vogel should have his teaching credentials stripped from him and be banned from academia for life. 

  • Anon

    “Knowledge is free”.

    Realistically, if the text is going to be required to pass the class, then it should be included in the base price of the class.

    Another piece of advice; You will never stop people from sharing information they want to share.

    • Pedagog

      This guy should look up the word Pedagogy and remember why he got into education, oh wait he got into education to make money by teaching people how to make money. I’m convinced where do I send my credit card details, and I will be wanting the annual updates just so I know what you think I should know.

    • EricPost

      Realistically the cost of a flight should be all there is. But there are fees for baggage, priority boarding, different classes of seats and so forth.
      Same with apartments. I rent a flat and pay a lot less than the guy in the penthouse with a view. Same apartment though. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001611272399 Jon Elliott

    Doesn’t Pearson already do this with their My[Math/Comp/Stat/...]Lab
    products? Disregarding the ethics of this shit, can’t this patent be
    invalidated by prior art?

  • Guest

    Isn’t that a form of bribery I can seriously see the shit hitting the fan over this one!

  • Anonymous

    If you are paying for tuition how can they realistically justify lowering your grade for not buying their book? 

    On another note, I find it suspicious that “college” textbooks should cost over $100 while there are other textbooks that cost $20.  We all know about the textbook racket and the corrupt half-ass professors that pimp a class moreso than teach a class…

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  • Guest

    This is a total scam. It’s not illegal to borrow a book from the library, or buy secondhand books. This is plain extortion to force students to pay up to participate in the exams.

  • Harrie

    Can I patent a book that will self destruct after it has been read, so you have to buy a new one if yo want to read it again?

    • Guest

      No you cant patent it since i will rush to patent office patent it my self(not really going to that since i think its already patented anyway and i dont think you can really to this kind think). This is new innovative patent; textbooks texts will fade after you purchase it and open plastic wrap on it. It will start fade out over time when it gets AIR(cemical reaction). Books should also be protected from copying if try to scan/copy it text fades immediadly. ouh and lets add more wood to fire, if you loan phycial book to friend it smells diffirent dna on hands and books text will fade out.

      This way books is useless after certain time and textbook publishers can sell books cheaper because they know that all new students have buy new for next year since old one is destroyed.

      Otherhand i am glad that i am not student anymore so i dont have buy anybook.

  • Drb1001

    I’ll suggest that Vogel has done a brilliant thing. By patenting his idea, he has ensured that it cannot be implemented without a license – and the cost of that license will necessarily reduce the net value to be gained by implementing it. If he follows the typical behavior of a patent troll, he’ll ask far too much for a license, the schools will refuse to pay, and the system will never come into being.

    • Student

       And while doing so He will help American education.
      Preferable way to do it is ofcourse never using that patent and never licensing at any price. Patent Trolls can burn for all I care =)

      Student always

  • Mobo

    Again it is proven that when morons are left to rule, they will destroy more than they build.

  • ABullydickheadheis

    Someone should slap this man in the face with some spam!

    • hey

       or pizza

  • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

    this wont stop it at all. have they never heard of screen capturing software

  • McCheezits

    >“For every rogue site that is taken down, there are hundreds more
    demanding similar effort. I can’t think of a more timely example of the
    need for additional tools,” he says.
    >rogue, he says
    >rogue
    >bullshit

    When will some people learn?

  • http://twitter.com/vjtauruz vj tauruz

    REALLY!

  • Geoff

    Completely agree that text books as a scam of massive proportions.  Also want to add, in the US, text books aren’t tax deductible as an educational expense.  The game is rigged.  Pirate, photocopy, share as much as you can.  Knowledge is power and they want to keep it all for themselves.

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  • imago

    On the other hand, this reminds me of the draft during the VietNam war.  What better catalyst to involve a potent response by intelligent, active young people to the need for copyright reform either through their political system or local Pirate Party? This cause will get alot of sympathy.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, Yes…Reform copyright, I want to see the world change and become a better place.

  • Anonymous

    Disgusting person. Knowledge is supposed to be for free. Maybe the means to provide it is what should be charged for. As a Professor its even worse. If he wanted money for faculties, he should have done some industry lobbying. Absolute disgrace. Suddenly, my poor friend can’t get a good grade solely because of a system and not his ability. How ridiculous is that?

  • http://twitter.com/horsebones Leke

    Teachers have jobs.
    Authors have jobs.
    Teachers who are also authors have 2 jobs.
    Students don’t have jobs (or mostly work minimum wage). What they are doing is just greedy.

    As for the argument of improving the academic publishing industry, I feel this is the tactic of a scared industry. Scared of the excellent job the writers on the internet are doing to educate are minds and every subject imaginable for free.

    I dream of a world where the most compassion is given to the people who are suffering the most — Not money to those who need it the least.

  • MelvinMeow

    This is the equivelent to Ford or any car dealer preventing you from using a car that you bought off your friend till you buy a special key directly from them.  Shame on the douchebags in the book industry trying to rip people off.

  • Jojo

    won’t happen- he is a “phd” from Puerto Rico (I think you can buy a PR phd for $200), no wiki page, just sort of a joke

  • womble

    greed!

  • womble

    maybe anon could teach this fool a lesson in online knowledge!

  • Guest

    Contact Joseph Henry Vogel and let him know how you feel!

    josephvogel@usa.net,  jtomikorobles@yahoo.com

  • Nooo

    Well, people, you can vent your anger and shake your fists all you want – and it will change nothing.

    That “professor” is the Future that’s coming – and there is nothing you can do about it.

    • Anonymous

      In the words of Rich Falkvinge…”If think you can change the world or you dont think you can change the world – in most cases, you are probably right”

    • Travis

      I’m getting ready for Professor Vogel’s class now. 
      I’ve been studying REAL HARD. 

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e9CkhBb18E

  • Sky_jokiel

    The is the most ridiculous thing I have ever herd!!!! How about the Universities buy our book or buys a percentage of our books and publishers STOP releasing new copies of the same book every year. Publishers deserve money but taking it from students the way every one else does is not the way. I think people continue to forget that students are going to school not working full time!!! This guy is a professor and is upset that he isn’t getting a big enough cut from the publishers if his students don’t buy the book. All my professors advise us to buy used book or off Amazon because they understand that being a student isn’t easy and saving a $1000 every semester is the same as saving $10000 to us.

  • tremor

     What a disgrace. Most college students are just trying to better themselves to provide a future for themselves and their family. Tuition prices are through the roof. Student loan debt is at an all time high. Grant money is being cut and eliminated. I’m sure most students would buy the textbooks if they could afford them, even though they are outrageously priced. A professor is tutor and mentor, and should strive to allow everyone an education regardless of financial position. It’s always about the money. Most colleges care more about their athletic students than those striving for higher education.

  • Kylewalters17s

    Greedy thieves.  Really, I hope things like Khan Academy and others show how outdated the old system is, just like the MAFIAA, a dying model and they want to keep it going to squeeze every penny.

  • Gearmentation

    The only legitimate new textbook -the only one you should pay for- is the 30 page one for $15 dollars (5 for the printing, 5 for the store, 5 for the author) which accompanies the old textbook and updates it… and this only happens in fields which are advancing, like cutting edge science.  Otherwise, knowledge is old and textbooks should be free.

  • Guest

    This was already trialed at my uni (in the uk) during my 1st year (now at end of 4th and final year). We had to buy a textbook, at a discounted price of around i think £40, which we only ever used a few sections of. One of our courses required us to use a code included for a website which we had to answer questions which counted towards our mark in the course. Not really used the textbook since.

    • Anonymous

      SO, there is a chance this isnt even the Professors idea?  He’s just the one that went and got a patent. Its sort of like DRM on books, isnt it?

  • Dr. Explosion

    With any luck, no one will sign up for this bag of shit’s classes, so his school has no choice but to fire him

  • anon

    I’m not entirely sure why so many posts are anti-professors… There seems to be a strange conflation of publisher and professor going on. Yeah some professors write books and like to push those hard, but it’s probably more a prestige thing than a money one.

    Only one professor came up with the idea… not all of them. General anti-professor bitching is just irrelevant to this story.

    • tremor

      Bitching about this one professor is warranted. You are very naive if you think it’s not about money, it’s always about money.

      • anon

        Indeed, but many comments are bitching about all professors, which I think is missing the point of the story. And that is what I was commenting on…

        And of course this story is about money. But in general, the fact that professors push books they wrote or contributed to is largely to do with ego and self promotion.

        • hey

          the overall tone is not anti-professor, not even close.
          It about this douche , money and the capitalism of education for the benefit of publishers at the expense of students.

          TL;DR……. too poor , no qualifications for you…WTF

          I didn’t see ONE post “bitching about all professors”.
          Proof or you are making things up.

  • Steve Smith

    “The patent in question was granted to Professor of Economics Joseph Henry Vogel. He believes that piracy, lending and reselling of books is a threat to the publishing industry.  ”
    ^ how long has it been going on? 30+ years ppl selling their old books to next person the industry hasn’t gone outta business yet?

    • Gjhkgjhkj

      He’s obviously a noob. He doesn’t understand the internet.

      Also companies aren’t entitled to sales, especially if their wares are crap

  • Adam Davidson

    They are welcome to make libraries and lending physical books illegal if they wish.

    I hereby pledge to boycott from hiring graduates with degrees from any university that engages in this practice. If enough other hiring managers will join me, degrees from these universities will be useless.

  • http://www.facebook.com/SolidSonicTH Gavin Heinly

    Lol, acting like this is revolutionary or in some way “thinking outside the box”.

    Video game publishers have been implementing this for awhile now in the form of online passes. Purchase a game new for an unused code or purchase it used and purchase a separate key to let you jump online to play that game with others. Ask EA Games if you want tips on how to make it work, Vogel.

    It’s the same concept; lock, stock, and barrel. It’s nothing more than repurposing it from the video game market to the textbook market. Lame, but hardly new (and I can bet a textbook publisher would see more return from this than a video game publisher because of how important it is to get a good grade).

    • Guest

      “Video game publishers have been implementing this for awhile now in the form of online passes. ”
      Yes, but the difference is that game publishers don’t get taxpayer money ffor providing a public good.

      Public universities and institutions of higher learning often do, and this is why the proposal is revolting.It is spitting in the faces of the taxpayers.

    • hey

       Different:

      Game SERVERS are a service

      A text book is static information

  • Adam Davidson

    Ah, he is “Professor of economics at the University of Puerto Rico”. Well no worries there.

  • Zixnbg

    And we hoppedn proffesors are smart…

    This is not a new thing anyway, at some faculties at my university, proffesors would ask for a signed original of a book, or else you can not pass an exam.

    Lady Justice Has Been Raped!

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  • Anonymous

    Complain about the evils of infringement.

    Steal anti-sharing system from video game industry.

  • PandaPanda

    Legal/Policy Analysis Alert.

    A patent is a right to exclude. So even though this econ professor holds the patent 

    1.) Your professor doesn’t have to use it, 
    2.) if your professor did want to use it, he would have to pay Vogel for the right to use his idea.

    Most professors aren’t inherently evil people. I doubt many of them would want to adopt such a system, and the ones who did would fall in popularity enough to put their performance at risk. I mean, I can think of a couple of douche bags who might do this, but the vast majority of professors care about their students to some degree. 

    P.S. Not legal advice. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/joshua.frazer1 Joshua Frazer

    This is why economics departments are perceived as Satan’s playground.

  • Regvlad

    just another greedy guy !

  • Ach01

    The real question is, this may be great for publishers, but why would teachers adopt such textbooks? 

    Furthermore, what if the publisher goes bankrupt, who hosts the web forum? Fortunately, most teachers aren’t stupid. All this idea promotes is the creation of crowd-sourced textbooks

  • BirdHunter

    who likes hunting. This F**cking Profs Lastname means Bird

  • Paulx1

      make knowledge open and accessible, instead of restricting

    every thing should be free stop trying to dum every one down

  • N.

    So now the Luddites are trying to save the printing presses.
    How ironic.

  • N.

    So now the Luddites are trying to save the printing presses.
    How ironic.

  • Alexandros Contoumas

    Unfortunately our world is infested with such close-minded human beings. It is already bad enough that the educational system is majorly flawed, but then this? I am left speechless! If humanity would just wise up and be geared more towards science and our Cosmos rather than irrelevant monetary matters then our species would finally begin to evolve and get out of its current state of stasis. I honestly think that education should be free for everyone and whoever is interested in knowledge for the sake of learning and discovering new things! This, would in fact be a giant leap forward in science (as well as other disciplines) and would lead to a global collaboration of people willing to learn more. Furthermore, this would allow us as a human species to finally feel like we are actually doing something of some importance. At the end of the day, and on a Universal scale anything monetary or other, is just insignificant and we all perish one day. In the mean time it would be better if we did something of relative significance and aid in the discovery of new mathematical theories as well as a progression in Physics and a technological advancement to allow us to interpret the Universe better. Music, Science, Art, Mathematics, Applied Sciences, Languages and all other disciplines are open to our disposal and exist for everyone to dive into. We should do everything we can to keep such knowledge free and open to anyone rather than abuse it for monetary gain by placing such unnecessary restrictions.

  • Guest

    No, I can’t really understand the apologetic tone of this article.
    Henry Vogel is not well intentioned but a corporate fascist pig. If there was ever anyone deserving of death in Auschwitz it would be Henry Vogel.

  • Apples

    I like how they think charging 100$ for a book. These students are broke enough already aas it is with tuition so high. Just like the musIc industry. Instead of changing to fit the market they force this and wonder why people are sharing

  • Guest

    “Students who don’t pay can’t participate in the course and therefore get a lower grade.”

    This fundamentally undermines the idea of merit based advancement. Joseph’s great idea is to punish those less economically fit? 
    Absolutely ridiculous. 

    • EricPost

      Again professors have always done this. You can get a lower grade for having poor attendance or not presenting required papers or projects in proper forms. This is a university standard going back ages.

  • Guest

    Someone should really dig into the professor’s life and find dirt.
    Any DUI convictions, drug abuse, child abuse complaints, tax fraud, domestic violence or unpaid debt.

    Anonymous, you know your target.

  • Steve Smith

    What happen to reduce, reuse, and recycle. This is a capitalist, and a great example to why I choose to stay in Canada, and why I believe this guy seriously needs a new hobby.

  • Soundrecordsinc

    send him a message.  let him know how you feel.  mailto:josephvogel@usa.net

  • anon

    this is fucking stupid

  • Anonymous

    OK now thats got to be the most stupid thing I have ever heard!
    Anon-Data.it.tc

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=618974482 Tom Daley

    so… only the rich get to learn?

    • EricPost

      No, just go to a college that doesn’t do this

  • The Future

    Coming next: The Government outlaws the purchasing of used cars because it is “infringing” on the rights of car companies. Everyone must buy new.

    • hey

      And if you want a drivers license.

      Yep…. you need to buy a new car……. every year…..for different roads.

  • Tntexplosivesltd

    How was this allowed through as a patent? Pearson did it first, but the code was to access a series of excercises that were worth 2% of the course each. Real original idea, professor…

    • Anonymous

      Yep exactly, I’m stuck doing one the MyAccountingLab right now with Pearson for… 10% of my subject assessment.

  • Anonymous

    What a greedy scumbag.

  • Batx69

    He needs to be drug out into the street and shot.

  • Sophia

    The professor should change his name to ‘Scum’. 

  • Reasonable Doubt

    The fact that the weight in this matter regards weather students
    “pirate” books or not tells a lot about what schools these days
    are really about.
    What is it really in those books worth knowing when unemployment
    is up to chatastrophic levels around the world?
    What does the schools really teach these days when the end
    result of those studies does’nt seem to benefit the students one bit
    when they leave the school with what they read in those books.
    The books they are so eager to protect seems with this action
    to be reduced to the bottom line game to line the publishers pockets.
    Not much else.
    The next aspect would then be that the world is in a recession
    and it will take some time before the jobs start to come back.
    When they do, does what’s written in those books stand up to future scruteny
    or will the ones who studied from these books get thrown out of the process
    as by then their education is deemed too old to be considered?
    I just can’t see that those books would survive a scruteny later down the line.
    The focus clearly is on how much revenue the books can generate,
    not the content.
    Have all unemployed ppl suing the publishers for each missed job oppertunity
    when the excuse is that the education was a bit too old.
    It seems Vogel could’nt care less about the actual content of these books.
    All he seems to care about is his cut.

    • Anonymous

      The wether feels the weather, whether or not it is in the rain.

      • FU Nazi

        Shut up!  That’s all you got out of what he said? You’re pretty sad.  Go do a crossword and make yourself feel better and superior. I’m sure you’ll do brilliantly.  

      • Guest

        Because that effects the validity of his comment. Wait, no it doesn’t.

      • FREE education

        Now folks … this is a real grammar nazi
        He ignored the content , attacked the grammar.

        Unlike what I did….. ( but got called a G nazi for it )….
        http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-patent-prevents-students-from-sharing-books-120610/#comment-553927009

  • Killallacademics

    i wonder how this ‘professor’ got -his- grade…
    fucking asshat needs to get his title stripped

  • HalfLife

    Isn’t the education system the greatest? Nothing like paying $400 for a book on biology. Now they will be able to get everyone to pay for information that is free in the library.

    • Sabacat

       Pretty soon they’ll probably start charging a “Library fee”.  I mean, if they’ve figured out ways to make money from those ‘children’s reading hours’, then I’m sure they can figure out how to charge annual Library fees.  Colleges will just add it on to their already insane annual costs, and they could just add an annual fee to our county/state taxes for the public library.  (I already pay all kinds of annual fees in my local taxes – for things I don’t use or have – what’s one more. yay.)

  • Trickster Goddess

     When I was in U. about 25 years some of my profs used textbooks they wrote themselves that were sold in the bookstore as spiral-bound soft covers for about $5 each.

  • http://twitter.com/NashAdrian1 NashAdrian

    what Wendy implied I didnt even know that someone able to profit $6418 in four weeks on the computer. did you look at this website  (Click on menu Home more information)   http://goo.gl/LLxYe  

  • Anonymous

    What’s new about this? My university in Australia already does this… prior art anyone?

  • Anonymous

    Double post

  • Asd

    Thank god my professors aren’t this misanthopic. Not only does our library have plenty of copies, some of them have actually implied that we download/torrent a copy if we need it.

    The only plus here is that patenting it means that he and all the other bloodsucking leeches can just sue each other into oblivion while the rest of the world moves on.

  • noko

    YOU WOULDN’T DOWNLOAD AN EDUCATION!

    • hey

      Be criminal or be stupid ?

      INTER-DEST-ING

  • BrokenSystem

    If I was a professor I can say I would never use this type of material in my classes. Most of my professors were sympathetic to the students for having to deal with the college course book scam and would make efforts to allow students to use older and virtually identical course books.

  • Pissed Off Again

    Those greedy fucks make new editions every year so you have to buy a new book and can’t use the old one. Enough is enough. Time to stop these greedy bastards in their tracks. Everyone should just refuse to take classes that require this BULLSHIT! We should also shoe the guy who can up with this shit on a stick in the nuts.

  • Alyssa Blindy

    This is disgusting. Why the heck would I be forced to buy a textbook from a certain place just to get into a class. Come on, that’s like saying you have to buy your clothes from a certain store in order to go to a party, or a seminar. Totally wrong, this is. This is as bad as Obama’s health care law.
    Not everyone uses normal textbooks. For example, a person who is blind or has Dislexia is legally allowed to gain access to books without paying the publisher a dime, if they get those books from special organizations. see http://www.bookshare.org. Let’s say someone is Dislexic. Will they really have to get this stupid access code even though they already legally have access to the textbook? It’s horrible discrimination and bullying. It’s like saying to someone that they have to buy their pencils from a certain store in order to take a test. It’s like saying that a person has to bbe on a certain phone company in order to call a phone number. Usually, it doesn’t matter how you obtain something, it just matters that it is obtained. Now that is changing, and that is so inane.
    Stupid big liberal government. 

  • John Parker

    Ugh..  Can’t you go pump money out of someone else’s carcass?  Why don’t you do some soft science writing about the economics of patents purely for profit for the general public?  I can see it on NPR now-

  • Dahon95

    I think the only reason he decided to do this was because, no one was willing to publish him cause he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, which is quite obvious with what he thinks happens when college students share books. 

  • Sanity_Vocal

    As I understand the idea, it allows the Teacher to grant special grades to a privillaged few who pay for the online access. For those who pay for the course and education at the college/school, they are being denied a portion of their due scores because they would not be able to access the forums/discussion groups at whose participation a portion of their grades depend on.

    Sounds kind of like elitism doesn’t it? I wonder if it is a breach of the social contract between school and student if teachers withhold a portion of scores from students this way. If, because of this, a student fails in his grades, does that mean that the school can be sued for failing in their due care for the education of the student?

    If teachers engage in commercialism practices at the expense of students and schools, why are schools hiring the teachers in the first place?

    I would think this sort of proposed educational module would be more suitable if the teacher were conducting a course in the commercial arena, not in a scholastic setting. If schools are involved, with school fee paying students, then this module of academia is self-contradictory in nature.

    Students with the resources might as well pay to have a passing grade to be given to them.

  • Jmonk

    Worst Economics professor ever! Shouldn’t he be worried about having students to teach rather than getting more money?

  • cys

    If youself was a good enough publisher or professor, you would’ve been well known already. The only reason why you are not exposed or published enough is that YOU ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH and what do you think students pay their the tuition for? Buying a special code just to get a higher grade in your class, I’d rather drop it and buy myself a degree of whatever.

  • Jaigeebee

    They already, make it as difficult as possible by changing the math books yearly. Ya know 2+2 is so different from year to year that the book has to change. We were surviving that but now GREED is taking over. Before ya know it they’ll mess up regular tv and make us have to pay for it, nah they wouldn’t do that would they? Too late! Regular tv is now cable sheesh. . . . Capitalism!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OK7Y7PCSTJ27RCKZ2MGRSAYCTE NEIL

    Got to say – thank goodness my kids have passed out of the education system – this is the stupidest shit I’ve ever seen – but the interesting thing is this action has gone way back to the original intention of the original English Copyright Laws. Protection for the royal printers from anyone else being able to print, keeping changing however slightly the content means you HAVE to buy from them.

  • Ebwing7060

    What if you don’t need the book. I’ve been in college for almost 10 months and haven’t read a book yet and still have all As & Bs

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  • Geniesis2k6

    I managed to get away from buying any textbooks while at uni. I found the official texts for the courses I took (electrical eng) lacking and ended up using Internet resources as well as other texts from the library as references.
    This patent should never have been granted. Just becuse this professor isn’t smart enough to get himself published doesn’t mean he should invent a system that will ultimately end up just making education an unfare system.

  • Anonymous

    As a faculty member at a major American research university, I resolve never to use such a textbook in any of my classes.

    • The Prof

      I absolutely agree. I am also a faculty member at an American university and I would never use such a book / such an online discussion board. I am pretty sure most of my colleagues wouldn’t either. We do care about our students very much! I see this as an investment in the future, both personally and for society. By the way: Students – you can always fight back by giving bad evaluations for your professor which will VERY quickly turn around younger faculty because they need good evaluations for their tenure track.
      Also – as researchers, we have a severe problem with the publishers. Not so much textbooks, but research publications (papers). It is ridiculous: We generate the data in our labs (mostly paid by our tax money), we write up the publication, we edit it, proofread it and often even style it, then we have to pay for publishing it (and we often HAVE to sign a copyright agreement with the publisher, too) and if we want to read the article, we have to pay again. Unless your university has a contract with the publisher (which is many thousands of dollars) you have to pay per download. To view a single publication is between 20 and 40$ typically… The number of paper cited in one publication is often more than 40.. which means you have to read more than 40 papers to publish your own. You do the math how expensive such a publication is.
      BUT: There is hope. We do share publications, there are exchange boards, and recently some universities have decided to boycott a major publisher!

      Keep sharing!

  • starnostar

    Whats the best way to increase the overall intelligence of our society which is on the rapid decline?….obviously its to make education harder to obtain! Also…lets pay our teachers close to nothing and pay football players millions!

    At my previous job, the movie “Idiocracy” was known as “The Prophecy”…It really wouldnt surprise me if people start feeding their plants Gatorade…. after all, its got electrolytes!This world is really starting to make me F^*%*$ sick. 

  • Desu1

    If there’s a scam worse than the music and film industry, it’s the college textbook industry. So which useless middleman will be getting money from students for this concept? 

  • http://www.facebook.com/Katusha91 Katya SilverFire

    This is so sad…

  • TPB

    TPB Down Alert! 
    TPB Down Alert! 

    • Oh No Mr Bill

      The proxies are out too!

      • TPB

        Back up.  Just updating software. 
        Long Live TPB.

  • Guest

    To be fair, knowledge is still relatively free, it’s just getting that paper at the end of your 3 + year course that costs. 

  • Anon

    I teach math at an Ivy League school. I must say I deeply despise these people. I actually type up notes for all classes I teach that I revise whenever it’s time to teach the same class again. I do this because I do not want my students to buy overprices books that are usually of pretty low quality. This is not because my students could not afford it (most do and those who don’t have their books paid by their scholarships), but it’s simply because I hate what the modern publishing industry is.

    I personally hope that someone would create a nice website that would allow creating textbooks through collaboration. It should be customizable in the sense that teachers could choose which examples and exercises to include in the generated LaTeX code. The biggest job would be having talented volunteers create high quality illustrations in something like TikZ. With the current quality of illustrations in printed textbooks, a collaborative effort should easily surpass their quality.

    Open source textbooks is most definitely going to be the future. This transition has already started for academic journals as more and more open access journals are being created. Let the publishers shit their pants as information is finally becoming open.

    • Anonymous

      Something like the arXiv but for textbook, PowerPoint/Keynote files,Mathematica notebooks, etc.

  • XXx

    Pure bull shit

    What the fu*K if the professor trying to do ???

    BETTER dont enter the class ++ 

    WILL all parents have enough money to buy the book — i’m pretty sure that Shit himself has used pirated stuff when he was at school

    HOPE not eveyone does this this will be bullshit — we cannot BUY a book for 1 SEMESTER that pure theft

    THE latter — shit simply thinks about HIS pocket ;-((

  • Poster

    We need tuition-free universities – on line – sponsored by corporations.

    And how do students PAY for this?  By reading required advertisements and submiting a one-page essay about the products.

    You may say that I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one.

    Higher education exists for profit, which sucks (and I’m a professor).

    Pass the bong.

  • https://whattheserver.me/ WhatTheServer.me

    heres the guys response to my emails

    Please find a common response to the voluminous emails I received regarding my
    patent. Most of the students were “outraged”, “disgusted”, and used
    abusive and even threatening language.  I believe education is formation of
    character and so I shall respond. Many misperceptions exist about the role of
    patents in textbook publishing and  also about me and my own work. My hope is
    that one can engage in civil debate with an open mind to change one’s
    opinion when presented with logic and evidence. Please contemplate:

    Research-active universities do not reward professors for publishing textbooks
    yet many top professors have written textbooks. One can only assume the
    motivation WAS monetary. My example of Paul A. Samuelson and the 19 editions
    of ECONOMICS is indeed classic. With rampant piracy, the best and brightest
    will no longer publish textbooks and the students will suffer from inferior
    quality textbooks.
    Open access is indeed a good idea for scholarly cutting-edge work as
    professors want their work read. But as per (1), scholarly cutting-edge work
    does not include textbooks.
    De facto open access of textbooks will extinguish the Publishing industry from
    producing top-rate textbooks and an analog can be found with open access of
    genetic resources of which I can profess some expertise. I have written
    extensively about “biopiracy” and “biofraud” by the US pharmaceutical
    companies and how habitat conservation is undermined in the biodiverse tropics
    (and US National Parks). Let’s also be clear that I earn nothing from these
    publications and copy and paste some recent scholarly publications here. I
    have also maxed out from any sort of career advancement at my institution. I
    invented the patented system largely for the same reason that I research and
    publish: the challenge and joy of puzzle-solving.
    The patent requires that students participate in Discussion Boards. I think
    this is a good idea especially today when most students do not know the
    majority of students in their class. Since the time of the Socrates,
    discussion has been the enabler of learning. The requirement to adopt the
    Discussion Board fosters such learning. Note well: no Publisher is forcing any
    professor’s hand to adopt their book under the patented system. However, a
    professor cannot adopt the Publishers’s book, let it be pirated, and then
    not subscribe to the Publisher’s Discussion Board that guarantees a payment
    for use of the Publisher’s textbook.  The billion-dollar firm Houghton
    Mifflin Harcourt has recently filed Chapter 11 of bankruptcy. Others will
    follow suit.
    Students of low income should apply for the US Federal Pell Grant which is
    means-tested. As owner of the patent, I want Publishers to waive the fee for
    students who present evidence of the Pell Grant. As such, the patent greatly
    benefits students of low income. Today, some low income students are put in
    moral dilemma to pirate or not attend university. My patent directly helps
    them.
    As Publishers capture fees from pirated downloads and the used book market,
    the price of textbooks will fall for students who are not on the Pell Grant.
    Finally, what will happen to the royalties of the patent? Academic freedom is
    under assault everywhere.  Half the royalty income from the patent will
    finance initiatives to promote academic freedom and is written into the
    language of the patent.

    You need not agree. So please join blogs and  elaborate reasoned responses to
    my arguments. I hope I may have persuaded some of you that your initial
    impression was indeed mistaken. If nothing else, I hope I have persuaded all
    of you that abusive and threatening language undermines public support for
    higher education. Arguments must be reasoned, politely.  
    Cheers, Joseph

    *“Monitoring and Tracking the Economics of Information in the Convention on
    Biological Diversity: Studied Ignorance (2002-2011). Omar Oduardo-Sierra,
    Barbara A. Hocking, Joseph Henry Vogel, Journal of Politics and Law,11 May
    2012, http://dx.doi.org/10.5539/jpl.v5n2p29

    “Can ‘Monkey Business’ Resolve the Most Contentious Issue in the
    Convention on Biological Diversity?” Gabriel Marrero-Girona, Joseph Henry
    Vogel, International Journal of Psychological Studies, Volume 4 Number 1 March
    2012, 55-65. doi:10.5539/ijps.v4n1p55   URL:
    http://dx.doi.org/10.5539/ijps.v4n1p55

    “The Economics of Information, Studiously Ignored in the Nagoya Protocol on
    Access and Benefit Sharing” Joseph Henry Vogel, Nora Álvarez-Berríos,
    Norberto Quiñones-Vilche, et al. 7/1 Law Environment and Development (LEAD)
    Journal (2011), p. 51-65 available at:
    http://www.lead-journal.org/content/11052.pdf
    for Arabic, Chinese, French, Portuguese, and Spanish, please scroll down to
    bottom of page and click on appropriate icon at:
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    • Anon

      He is a typical economics professor who simply can’t understand that lots of people write books, because they are in a position to describe the state of the art of the field and see this as an important contribution to science.

      I know lots of people that have written mathematics textbooks that actually are among the best of their field. They often get funding from the NSF, so that they can take a break from teaching to finalize their project and most of who I know do not do it because they expect a monetary compensation. This will simply not happen for monograph level books that only a few experts and university libraries will buy.

      One of my colleagues actually used to encourage all his students to download his own book from gigapedia while it was still up and running…

    • foff

      Why is there always the assumption that everything is done for monetary purposes.   Many people write books for many reasons that are not all related to making money.  The assumption that works will not be created without monetary motivation is simply not valid.

    • F -

      Here it is in a nutshell … 

      “I have also maxed out from any sort of career advancement at my institution.” 

      So get a new job you asshole professor.  Supply and demand. 
      Not demand then supply.  F- in economics for you Prof Vogel. 

  • Anonymous

    This is an absolutely horrible idea, teaching another person in a very small group is the best way to learn for all humans, this would systematically discourage such behaviors.

  • Bishca Shani

    Gee I wonder how this can be circumvented
    *Walks into book store*
    *Opens Book*
    *Copies down code*
    *Hides book in another section so no one else can find and buy it*
    *Leaves Book store*

    BAM

    Solved

    • Plug n Play

      The book has a chip and USB port built into the binding. 
      To pass the course you need to activate the book. 
      Selling now on amazon for only $299.95. 

      Just plug the book into your laptop.  It’s plug and play ready. 
      A retinal scan and DNA sample is collected at the end of the course also. 

      Grad students can ‘opt-in’ to the cranial RFID implant program. 
      It’s called the ”EZ-PASS” fast track curriculum.  Only $2,995.95 extra.

  • Phil

    Wow! A professor that’s an idiot! Never would have guessed…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1033620038 Jenise Spiteri

    Wow, what a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE idea. I have a hard time even believing this article is serious, because it’s such a horrible idea.

    1. This isn’t going to stop “piracy” of books, it’s just going to lead to more people not getting an education because they can’t afford full price books. At least now if you can scrap enough money together to afford college, you can make it work by sharing the cost of textbooks with friends, or reading them at the library. If a student can’t take a class if they don’t own their own book, there’s going to be a lot of knowledge seekers who just can’t enroll. This would be a major step back for our country. Let’s ENCOURAGE education.

    2. Ever heard of the “first-sale doctrine”? It’s a limitation on copyrights and trademarks. Once someone’s bought a book, they can then do what they want with it- whether it’s selling it, giving it away, or using it as toilet paper. It’s a right that can not be taken away. The article states “Lending books from a library or friend, or buying books from older
    students, isn’t allowed either. At least, not when the copyright holders
    don’t get their share.” Uhmm copyright holders have no right to a share of anything after the first sale.

    3. The article states that Vogel “believes that piracy, lending and reselling of books is a threat to the publishing industry.” Oh boo-friggedy-hoo. How can they try to make the publishing industry sound like the victim? Publishing companies already make new editions every couple of years just to keep sales going. Add an extra chapter, change some pictures, remove some practice questions, and BOOM the old edition is now obsolete. I’ve personally experienced buying a $250 book and being told at the end of the semester that a new addition has come out and I can’t sell my book back. The text book publishing industry is NOT hurting. They’ve known for years how to make money off the same books over and over again.

  • Eradicator1729

    I’m a college professor and I hate this idea. College should be about attaining knowledge, and my job, as a professor, is to facilitate that process. My job is not to make sure publishers get paid. I even had a professor once who basically wrote an entire text book, but offered it for free as a PDF on his website. Because his primary concern was TEACHING.

  • Pod2peer

    First they charge ridiculous prices for the textbooks, then they make some minor change so you have to buy a new one each year, and continue to charge the high price, or even raise it, and then they bitch when people resell the used books because they don’t get any money from it, as if what they got the first go around wasn’t more then enough. Then you get this unbelievably stupid professor, who I swear I would never take a class with, who seems to think that this will help him mooch more cash out of already cash strapped students. I seriously want to hit this guy. You want to have less piracy on books? LOWER THE PRICES! I don’t want to spend 1 to 2 hundred dollars for a book I am going to use for 1 semester. I can promise you this, even though I am currently in school, and getting straight A’s, I would happily let that drop to a B average before I paid to join some stupid on-line discussion board that requires me to verify where I got my book. What this does is make you have to pay for an A grade. That can’t be legal.

  • fuckVogel

    Why don’t you just cut out all the shit it in the middle and charge every student in the class an extra $50 and then let them pirate as much as they want. It essentially makes buying textbooks compulsory which is a fucking joke. This is the stupidest idea I ever heard.

  • Rose

    Yikes! What’s next? People charging schools for “sharing” knowldge like Math and Science?

  • http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/ SJD

    So many comments. I tried to read them all, but if I missed that someone else thought about the following, I apologize.

    To secure a patent these days, an applicant must invest around $100K. To start a patent infringement litigation costs ~$1M.  This is a first-hand information from my former colleague, who is kind of a patent troll facilitator now (he does not sue though, but in a patent wholesale business). 

    So the good question: who paid for this, most likely useless (in terms of return on investment), patent? I seriously doubt that it was Mr. Vogel’s personal investment. Then who? Isn’t the answer obvious? 

    Basically we are talking about a copyright cartels’ shill here, and I hope that the university that employs him will get rid of an ethically challenged professor.

    At very least I hope that the students will take the matter in their own hands and refuse to take his classes. 

    A good reading about the myth of a clever guy who secured a patent and made a living out of it: http://falkvinge.net/2012/03/12/how-patent-monopolies-work-in-reality-outside-of-fairytale-land/

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  • Wearingmysunfeet

    He’s not dumb, he’s really smart. He’s also an asshole. Thus, this idea of his to get more money out of his students.

  • Fried2

    How stupid is that..it cost students enough as it is…and now this…talking about greedy

  • john doe

    Just the idea of having an economics lecture by this guy makes me QUEASY.

  • Buzzetta

    What Professor Vogel does NOT realize is that it is the student’s choice whether or not to take his class.  If that is his policy I would take someone else’s class.  I am sure that he is not the only teacher teaching that course.

  • Student

    Finally! Someone has cracked on to the fact that students have a heap of extra money lying around that we desperately need to be taken off our hands.

  • Sabel44

    And which FOOL granted the patent in the first place?

  • Patrick

    If any of you email him, you’ll most likely get the boilerplate reply below.
    Probably a thing worth doing – save some seconds commenting here, and send the idiot a mail!

    Please find a common response to the voluminous emails I received regarding mypatent. Most of the students were “outraged”, “disgusted”, and usedabusive and even threatening language.  I believe education is formation ofcharacter and so I shall respond. Many misperceptions exist about the role ofpatents in textbook publishing and  also about me and my own work. My hope isthat one can engage in civil debate with an open mind to change one’sopinion when presented with logic and evidence. Please contemplate:Research-active universities do not reward professors for publishing textbooksyet many top professors have written textbooks. One can only assume themotivation WAS monetary. My example of Paul A. Samuelson and the 19 editionsof ECONOMICS is indeed classic. With rampant piracy, the best and brightestwill no longer publish textbooks and the students will suffer from inferiorquality textbooks. Open access is indeed a good idea for scholarly cutting-edge work asprofessors want their work read. But as per (1), scholarly cutting-edge workdoes not include textbooks. De facto open access of textbooks will extinguish the Publishing industry fromproducing top-rate textbooks and an analog can be found with open access ofgenetic resources of which I can profess some expertise. I have writtenextensively about “biopiracy” and “biofraud” by the US pharmaceuticalcompanies and how habitat conservation is undermined in the biodiverse tropics(and US National Parks). Let’s also be clear that I earn nothing from thesepublications and copy and paste some recent scholarly publications here. Ihave also maxed out from any sort of career advancement at my institution. Iinvented the patented system largely for the same reason that I research andpublish: the challenge and joy of puzzle-solving.The patent requires that students participate in Discussion Boards. I thinkthis is a good idea especially today when most students do not know themajority of students in their class. Since the time of the Socrates,discussion has been the enabler of learning. The requirement to adopt theDiscussion Board fosters such learning. Note well: no Publisher is forcing anyprofessor’s hand to adopt their book under the patented system. However, aprofessor cannot adopt the Publishers’s book, let it be pirated, and thennot subscribe to the Publisher’s Discussion Board that guarantees a paymentfor use of the Publisher’s textbook.  The billion-dollar firm HoughtonMifflin Harcourt has recently filed Chapter 11 of bankruptcy. Others willfollow suit. Students of low income should apply for the US Federal Pell Grant which ismeans-tested. As owner of the patent, I want Publishers to waive the fee forstudents who present evidence of the Pell Grant. As such, the patent greatlybenefits students of low income. Today, some low income students are put inmoral dilemma to pirate or not attend university. My patent directly helpsthem.As Publishers capture fees from pirated downloads and the used book market,the price of textbooks will fall for students who are not on the Pell Grant.Finally, what will happen to the royalties of the patent? Academic freedom isunder assault everywhere.  Half the royalty income from the patent willfinance initiatives to promote academic freedom and is written into thelanguage of the patent.You need not agree. So please join blogs and  elaborate reasoned responses tomy arguments. I hope I may have persuaded some of you that your initialimpression was indeed mistaken. If nothing else, I hope I have persuaded allof you that abusive and threatening language undermines public support forhigher education. Arguments must be reasoned, politely.  Cheers, Joseph

  • Anonymous

    Wait, wait, wait. Professors “facilitate piracy by placing texts in the library reserve where they can be photocopied”? That’s so absurd that I thought it was parody.

    …and then I read his CV, and now I’m pretty sure it’s parody.

    We’re reading this all wrong. Grok: He’s got the patent so no legitimate business can force the purchase of text book licenses by requiring access to a website without his permission. We don’t know if he thinks it’s a good model for education, we only know that it can’t be done without his permission.

    Suppose such a patent were filed by Pirate Bay guys. …Right?

    Granted, I don’t know this guy from Adam, but a publishing record heavy on “ecopiracy”, “ecocriticism” and “equitable access” suggests that he’s not out to strip mine our culture. Quite the opposite, actually.

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  • Anonymouse

    [quote]Lending books from a library[/quote]

    This is the whole reason you where allowed copyright laws in the first place as you have now found a way to circumvent this protection I guess Copyright laws are now defunct and should  be done away with.

  • http://www.facebook.com/WolfgangKnight Shaun Mitchel

    This is just the most ridiculous and idiotic thing to be made. Students and adults who buys a book from the bookstore or whatever, payed for the book and therefore OWNS the book they purchased. If they want to lend or sell the book to a friend, or garage sale they have that right. Also Those who sell pre-owned books don’t sell it over their original price they sell it at half or even lower depending on its condition.

    Also if some one sells the book, The author and illustrator is on the cover and the inside of the book so piracy is impossible. If someone buys the book they see the author and if the buyer likes the book they will most likely to buy more books by that author And these books are always updated!

    So this act is just abunch of **** and they should cancel, revoke it.

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XF7WKGN5AALNZS3XJ5E422CHPE Bob Smith

    What a greedy fucking jew, no one uses textbooks anyway.

  • Kissatkoiria

    Wait. So someone still buys books? Have I been sent back to 90′s? I’ve 2 Master of Science in engineering and haven’t bought single book since I bought ~$20 USD formula book at high school. If the professor can’t do his own material, how the heck you except him to know what he/she is teaching?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dimitri-Rytsk/832808743 Dimitri Rytsk

    “New” Anti-Piracy Patent filed: September 7, 2006 ! Did someone implement it yet ? What a scam!

  • guest

    This person has a valid point at wanting to stop piracy but when it comes down to final ounce of information all this really is about is “money”. He wants his money and he will find any ways legal to screw over the students in his class room for it kudos to this lawful evil bastard. May he find his class room empty and his ass out of a job boycott his classes even do peaceful protests of his class.

    Whats next is some one going to patents the way a monkey uses a stick to gather termites for food and start trying to charge them?

    Knowledge should not be kept under lock and key it is a free substance we all should get for being able to think and do.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaEDeRJKN0s

    • Fredrika

      > “This person has a valid point at wanting to stop piracy..”

      He does not, because in reality there exists no scientific evidence that supports the thesis that non-profit piracy constitute any kind of problem in the first place for neither society, culture, creators, the goal with copyright or the culture industry’s current record revenues.

      His point is in fact based on a outright falsified premiss.

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  • Raist

    Is this guy publishing at Elsevier? 

  • dhfgsfga

    LOL! That made my day. I thought University professors are suppose to be the clever ones

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  • Matt

    ah it’s not like I’m paying a LOAD in tuition fee’s anyway… they can’t be on much salary… ¬_¬

  • student 472

    That so-called professor is obviously anti-education. He is an economics professor; but his move is about as anti-market economy as humanly possible.

    First, I don’t see how it is a thing that is patent-able. Something wrong with the thinking of the patent officer. It’s just a 3-yr-old money grab move that can be exercised when you have absolute power, i.e. you’re giving out the grades. It’s the same as what dictators and tyrants have been doing for thousands of years. Absolutely nothing new, it should not be granted a patent. If you are lame enough, you can simply force your students to show a unique receipt for buying that book in the current semester, you don’t need a patent to do that.

    Second, good luck to anybody, professor/college that tries to implement such system. There is a direct pay-for-grade ingredient. I’ll be surprised if the student body and the parents won’t just march to the school and eat their livers (I meant complain to the board of education, etc.). I’ll be even more surprised if those who implement the system simply won’t shame themselves to death. 

    Third, it’s not anti-piracy, it’s simply a money-grab move riding on the wave of digital piracy. Photocopy machines have available for decades, and nobody tried a stun like that (if you photocopy books, you get a D, huh???). This so-called professor is simply taking advantage of the “anti-piracy atmosphere” in the society and the political system, much hard earned by lobbying groups. 

    Lastly, and unsurprisingly, this dude publishes economics text books. Is it too obvious? No, greed is never too obvious.

    * A personal note, he teaches at U of Puerto Rico @ Rio Peidras. Doesn’t sound like the brightest of all. Also, he specializes in bio diversity and climate change… errrr… Darwin’s award goes to him!

  • Norbert

    As if textbooks aren’t expensive enough already.

  • Crimsonknight861

    I’m sorry, but the entire system regarding textbooks is a scam. There is no good reason that they should be so expensive. Nor is there a good reason to release a new version every year. It’s the way they get to charge you even more money on top of your ridiculously overpriced course fees. This jackass professor is just out to capitalize on it in hope that he can get more money to get the newest Mercedes Benz he wants. People like this have no business in education, though he ought to have a promising future with the other anti-piracy “organizations”.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dakota-Dube/1178206657 Dakota Dube

    YES LETS RESTRICT BOOKS TO THOSE ONLY WILLING TO PAY. this pisses me off so fucking much and I wish a painful death to the think tanks behind this.

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  • student2

    WTF, we share, borrow and lend books. A lower grade because you don’t or can’t pay? Give me a break. This is just wrong, wrong, so darn wrong.

    What is this world coming to?  Pay the publisher, don’t think so? We already have to pay the publisher to access case studies, solutions, and appendix materials that should already be included with our text.

    It’s about greed, pure and simple. This is about one of the most stupid and ignorant ideas anyone has ever though of…

  • Lethn

    “While it’s understandable that publishers want to stop piracy,
    preventing poor students from borrowing textbooks from a library or
    friend goes too far.”

    Sorry, but I read this and I actually don’t think it’s understandable at all, they’re essentially making it illegal for you to be nice to someone and lend them your textbook. What happens if they lose it? What happens if it gets damaged? These things can all happen digitally as well as physically and to specifically target students who are going to be in massive amounts of debt already and will also be forced to pay off the debts of a previous generation if all goes to plan is just pathetic.

    I don’t condone violence in any form, but it’s seriously starting to get that way now since they aren’t just going to let us denounce our citizenship and live on an island somewhere are they?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/emery.premeaux Emery Premeaux

    Here’s a thought.. publishers should publish textbooks that dont cost upwards of 100USD or more. Almost anyone can afford to purchase a $15 textbook.

    And what does his system do for book resellers? 

  • Dcarney704

    Because Text Book sales drops are the biggest fucking plague when it comes to college. How about the fact that students have to suffer through the cheapest fucking meal as it is in order to survive the week. It’s not bad enough that they have to put themselves in a big ass pile of debt, they have to spend their last dollar buying a book that in the overall sense of things, should be fucking supplied by the college. And when that book is done, they have the option to sell back a completely mint book for literally 1/20 the original price, if that.

    Since college seems to want to teach people more about the affect of the mighty dollar, perhaps we as the people should show it how it can also be crushed under it’s weight.

  • HaroldN

    As a university academic I can say with full confidence that this will never happen in a course I teach or administrate. Resistance from lecturers and students would be ferocious. Any course which had a set text requiring this form of login would simply be replaced with another equivalent text.

    A ridiculous, regressive, short-sighted idea. 

  • Guest

    I would like to meet this Professor Joseph Henry Voge and his family, so I can rape the shit out of his wife just for him thinking of something this fucking stupid. I would then allow him to buy a code off me for a fee that he can enter online in order to receive her back. If this ever goes through…I will find him and murder him, you have my word. And he will not be my first. Fuck him and fuck him again.

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  • just passing through

    surely the professor in question should apply his time to encouraging his students to come up with more suitable business models for the digital age rather than teaching them how to fleece the next generation of scholars.  The man should be struck off from whatever “uni” he teaches at or better yet get a job with the US government’s fiscal policies department – I hear they are looking for a few more war dollars.

  • Guest

    I will guest that most of us, teachers of universties, will not take these systems in use.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/EMoney-TheGreat/100000737971512 EMoney TheGreat

    Fuck this guy. I remember one of my teachers asked me why I didnt have a book. I showed him that the book was going for $500 on amazon and he never questioned me again. Its hard enough getting the financial backing just to register for classes and he wants us to pay hundreds of dollars for books we will more than likely only use once? And not be able to sell them as used to future students under his “patent”?
    Economics teacher my nuts.

  • YARIGHT

    Anti-Piracy Patent THINKS it Stops Students From Sharing Textbooksthere fixed your headline for you

  • duck

    Oh fuck off shat is is shit? No sharing textbooks? let’s torrent textbooks for our futures!

  • Vinay Kola

    This is why in my college in India we find scanned versions of all textbooks in PDF format on our local network. We don’t even need to pay for photocopy. 

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  • User

    What a shit cunt of a professor. At least not all academics are so retarded. Some will openly discuss piracy

  • Bpm6787

    How about the school include the books in the cost of the class? In the current scheme, can assign what ever they want and students are asked to buy them. The high cost motivates sharing, which in no way can be considered illegal. In this guys proposed scheme all students are forced to buy the books. Now maybe ts just me, but not a lot has changed in the first two years of a math, physics, or chemistry sequence in college. The great works of literature haven’t changed much in the last we years, either.

    If we include the books in the cost of the class,tuition, then the teacher and school are jointly responsible for the cost justification.

  • The Major

    Normally, the books I were to get new cost $400-600. I do have the option of selling them back, but I only get about $50 back. Used books don’t lower your grade. This year, I had all used books, and all my grades were above 95%. Suck that, book publishing bitches

  • Guest

    Copyright kills innovation, this will help people realize how ridiculous and harmful the concept of copyright can get when it is left unchecked and we as society allow those with the power to bribe the authorities into cutting away our freedoms.

    All students will become pirates now and the countries getting into this kind of schemes will only suffer, it is sad but at least it will be a catalyst for legislationchange.

    A change the world desperatedly needs.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JPYMGWDPRZYIMJGLBQHUW3XFZE Isa

      Copyright applied properly can incentivate innovation (good idea = good money), but measures like this just are not only a death sentence for innovation, but a brake for the new generations’ development. 

      I just can’t wait for this guy to go bankrupt.

      • Guest

        That’s the theory we’re sold but in practice it gives people incentive to focus on capitalizing and restricting the same ideas, long after others have done the same the achievement independently instead of continously coming up with new good ideas to keep up.
        And it has a chilling effect on new ideas too because innovators now have to be super careful to avoid stepping on something someone’s copyrighted.
        And then we have copyright used for legal warfare between companies that prefer to invest in legal attacks more than new research.
        Copyright is bad for scientific progress, it is not needed to keep a scientific vanguard, it does not help and it causes great harm.
        It is plain bad when it comes to science.

  • Aarontrio

    Ew

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  • LZLibrarian

    What is stopping professors from using other technologies, like Blackboard, for discussions?  Are professors and instructors likely to use such a system?

    • Anonymous

      I use open source software for my classes’ discussion boards. I will never use a textbook with a password.

  • Cassidydinger

    I hope this is never really takes off. They think THEY’RE missing out on some money? Do they know how much college fucking costs these days? I’m appalled. Just a thought here, but maybe we should start trying to fix a broken education system before pulling bullshit moves like this.

  • Karenvr42

    This idea is interesting but totally off base to me.  If you want students to purchase the required course book THEN MAKE IT AFFORDABLE IN THE FIRST PLACE!  I can’t tell you how many of my course books cost $100+ and I only used them for one term AND I couldn’t sell them back for more than $10-$15 dollars, and usually it was more like $5 or nothing.

    What are they complaining about, anyway?  Just make the coursebook digital so you don’t have the high overhead of printing costs and then sell the digital book at half the price of the printed book and still make a killing!  That’s what Kindles and Nooks and other digital readers are for and how Amazon and Barnes and Noble are making all their money off of them!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=557461691 Tatu Virta

    Facebook considers this news article as spam… I sent them a feedback as they had taken the story off my wall (and the walls of friends), and couldn’t repost it.

    • DocGerbil100

       … and this is why Facebook should be regarded as a load of big, fat, hairy moose-cock.

  • http://draketo.de/ Arne Babenhauserheide

    Welcome to the future… if they keep on with this, this is where we will get to: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html

    A very good reason to fight.

  • Kent Trustrup

    Well talk about creating social disparity :-)

    Live in Denmark, so free education for all, but university students have to pay for books.
    These books are really expensive, usually something like 3-4.000 dkk per semester, ca.  600 – 675$.
    All students gets a grant of the state for studying, that’s about 44.000 dkk per year, which the have to live for and pay rent and such.
    Rent is usually half the money, so of the last 22.000, they would have around 15.000 left for food clothing and such.
    If we calculate that in Big Whopper meals, which is 75 dkk, that’s about 200 meal a year. Not really enough :-)

    There is a reason people buy used textbooks, and copy them, if they are from a low income family who can’t support them, when studying, they need a job just to survive. And our system is build so you can’t just earn more to buy the books, since the income is deducted from the grant.

    Thank you professor, less chance for the poor to get educated is what the world need.

    • Guest

      So you can’t get more money and the money you get is not enough for the basic needs?
      That system seems really broken to me.

  • Jaigeebee

    Piracy? Are these people crazy?! They will turn their own students into criminals for a dollar! ! ! Course now after that professor and those trouble making,do nothing judges used,re-used and copied their way to a degree, the even they want to close the door. Neither of them have any honor and it’s disgusting to see how such predators are able to to wolf in sheeps clothing there way up our social chain. The judges that awarded this should be found and voted out if possible! Secondly, then if students must pay for this ,then the school must be required to change the books annually and unable to use a book twice in a five year period. Also it then must be updated to include all advancements and techniques and reviewed by a students board for which a fee is paid!

  • FlickingYourSwitch

    Did he just patent the secret password?

    Also, restricting knowledge like this should be fucking criminal. Who owns knowledge anyway?

  • THIS GUY IS A TOOL

    He’s just mad because he’s trying to get rich off of something that can be easy duplicated which was a stupid idea in the first place. If you want to get rich don’t try it by making something that any random joe can copy and produce in mass numbers. Rather than trying to change the entire system just for you, the easiest thing to do would be to create something that can not be reproduced by some random person.

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  • Collen Vickers

    Isn’t
    it time there was a new attitude towards learning at Universities. Surely my
    fees are payment for the information which the University give to me. Logically
    if I go to a University I should expect that the Professors present me with all
    the information I need to gain a degree. I should not have to buy that information
    from them in the form of a book that I must have.

  • http://twitter.com/Ivoryblossum goldenrail

    Lend to, borrow from.  You might want to correct that above.

  • http://profiles.google.com/thesafesurfer Dave Thomas

    The professor is interested in money and not education. An all too typical reality in higher education today. 

  • I hate this professor

    Fucking asshole. Period.

  • Guest

    Meanwhile a real education system would focus on digitalizing all books and making them part of an open free public library so all students could learn and grow, it would be good for the country and good for society.

  • Guy34587

    This is such a massive croc of shit, if they want people to stop doing this, they should sell their books for a reasonable price!

  • Gag

    Time for open-source text books…
     

  • Harold31415

    Because everyone knows all students are swimming in vast seas of money. Right?
    And to think that blocking real-life lending is a good idea, what the heck are they on and can I have some?

  • Clive Mann

    ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL!

  • PenzancePeer

    Prof Vogel ought to be looking to the day when the Internet makes his position of middleman for Knowledge redundant ?

    As for Textbooks, most of them are so poorly written, its high time the publishers were shaken up :) 

  • http://twitter.com/wondersz1 SurferITS

    We were encouraged to make copies of the books when I was a student and university made money by offering a photocopy service to the students.

  • Anonymous

    This idiot’s classes should be boycotted until he gets the message that academia shouldn’t be about profiting off of your students.  Four years ago I resigned from academia exactly because it was full of morons like this.

  • Asashii

    i bought used what i could new if i had to and sold all that i could back at the end of the semester, Tennis Scholarship helped the cause though !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • oh please

    my street smarts beats your book smarts vogal.

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  • Babambambu

    All of my professors post PDFs of academic articles for students to download for free. I’d say they rely on these articles more than they rely on textbooks (usually I download a dozen per class). If Vogel wants his patent to work then he needs to convince other professors that what they’re currently doing is wrong. Also, plenty of textbooks already require online access codes, so this doesn’t seem like anything new.

  • Michael S

    Favorite class: we used the open Wikibook http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Graph_Algorithms

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  • Yuri de Groot

    I immediately thought of Stallman’s essay “The Right To Read”
    http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
    Looks like the battle has begun.

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  • Stopthemadness

    why are we even remotely surprised at this? we have a use tax on cdrw’s & dvd’s from the recording industries and i have NEVER used a disk for music. data only. you are soon going to be charged an elevator tax for the piped in classical 70′s rock. but they will make it convenient for you. you will be charged per floor & you can swipe your debit card to open the door to get out.

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  • FreeBSD

    wow, just wow.

  • Anonymous

    OK now that jsut does not make any sense at all dude, none.
    Anon-Geeks.tk

  • Alma

    So the Poor students just have to accept a lower grade?  Since when is sharing a book copyright infringement?  Does that mean I can’t lend my old Anne Rice novels to my mother???  

  • Bad service = root of all evil

    LOL In the library of my university (Germany and one of the biggest in the country, mind you) there are several scanning machines with USB ports. You can scan as many pages as you like. This “professor” is an example of a dumb sh@t that probably didn’t get his work published (because of the ultra-low quality of his work) and now he’s angry to the world. And no, this won’t bring more money to the publishers because it won’t happen. It is unreasonable (even stupid) to require from a student, who studies during the day and works during the night, to spend 100-200 EUR on a book only because he/she needs a couple of pages from it.

    Such a project is doomed even before it starts. EU parliament and commission might do plenty of dumb things but this is something they won’t allow to happen. It’s obviously against all reasoning and against education. A great work of science/art/etc. will always find a publisher and sponsoring.

  • MCSmarties

    Listen, peeps, this story makes only one thing absolutely clear:
    THE ACADEMIC PUBLISHING INDUSTRY NEEDS TO DIE ASAP.

    They have no reason to exist anymore. They are not needed any longer. And they know it, so they are desperate to lock people in and preserve their precious business model while they can.

    Did you know that Academic Publishers are the absolutely worst profiteers of capitalism? You read that right – not health care, not the oil industry, but the academic publishers are the biggest scammers out there. Don’t believe me? Check out:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2012/feb/10/parable-farmers-teleporting-duplicator

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cost_of_Knowledge

    And then people wonder why tuition is going through the roof!!

  • Christophe Thomas

    just look at the guys website … he close to being a self proclaimed moron. It looks quite fake to me …

  • Guest

    I couldn’t help read this article without feeling slightly confused. I’ve already had university classes with the same basic idea. Granted it wasn’t for a discussion board, however I’ve had math classes where to submit my course work it had to be done through an account on a website that I was given access to by a specialized code provided with my textbook. It also had the option to purchase the code separately for those people using a used textbook. I guess the only difference is now there is someone trying to patent the idea *facepalm*. 

  • Xyverlla

    That’s why people can’t afford education. This is fucking retarded.

  • Freedom

    Sad. Welcome to the modern-version of “Fahrenheit 451″. Ray Bradbury had it right from the start.

    Thank god for the OSS movement! May knowledge be free, and forever…

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  • Sam

     “Information is like a bank… Some of us are rich. Some of
    us are poor with information. All of us can be rich. Our job – YOUR job
    – is to rob that bank. To kill the guard. To go out there to destroy
    everybody who keeps & hides the whole of information.”

    -The ‘Priest’ in the film ‘Decoder’ as played by Genesis P-Orridge (look it up, kids)

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  • Anonymous

    Hey there Students when I was in school in the 70′s we knew exactly what to do with asshole instructors.You could tell them right off by their upside down cars amongst other things

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  • Guest-guy

    I’m taking online courses right now and the forced online conversations I have to have that count towards “participation” are the most specious bullshit I’ve ever had to do as part of any course work in my educational career.

    The online discussion board cannot constitute any significant portion of the grade lest it completely break down the actual purpose of the course.  I mean, do you want to try and have students abuse the system by skipping on buying the code to coast a class?  You can’t force a letter grade on people by proxy of “DLC” which is pretty much what this is.  You do that and you undermine the whole educational process into a system of “purchased” content that you don’t own.

    Sad thing if this comes to pass.  Any college that adopts this system isn’t worth the effort of attending.

  • http://www.dramanite.com kimbowa

    I’ve been teaching since 1996 and have yet to find a need to ask students to buy a text book.  Online journals and good curation skills allow me to point my studnets towards the most relevant material in the field.  A better model for a textbook is Duke University’s “Cachalot” project.  Crowd-source your expertise, peer-review the submissions and assemble using open-source and open access technologies. 

    If this professor want to publish – then let him do some research – and publish new knowledge – constantly rehashing readily available information into proprietary textbooks is a crock of the proverbial.

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  • Tom Enns

    The idea is great; however, the article (and the invention) ignores the fact that part of the reason that textbook piracy is so popular is the exorbitant prices that publishers charge for the textbooks themselves. While this invention does encourage more research and writing, and that funding should go to those who do that work, it does not reign in publishers from blatantly ripping off hard working and cash strapped students.

  • Libraryofalexandria

    how can you patent something so simplistic as that? That’s why the higher ed system is so fucked up, self-indulgent monkeys chasing bananas 

  • Anonymous

    Business schools are churning out sociopathic, greed-driven monsters, not educated citizens, and this guy is a prime example of why. It would be in humanity’s best interest to shut these schools down before their unholy bastard children rape the world economy any worse than they already have. Divert the funding to the sciences and other such actually-beneficial-to-society fields.

  • AL

    GREEDY BASTARDS!

    How is he filing for a patent NOW? This ‘online-access’ component has been going on for a long time now. It IS a complete scam… It really isn’t aimed at piracy either- it’s to stop the resale of used books to insure greedy pricks like this guy can get money off a new book sale for every student. It’s already put a number of textbook resale shops out of business. 

    • Anonymous

      I can’t wait till ONE university opens up gets accredited and then ONLY uses public domain text books and REFUSES to hold any courses that don’t use public domain text books.

      a school that REFUSES to upgrade to a new “edition” if that edition does not actually ADD anything of relevance except the requirement to buy a “new book”

      I CAN NOT WAIT till this happens. can’t wait.

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  • Aiden

    Can they make it any more difficult for us? I hope that teacher is proud of himself. I always buy the used textbook and earlier editions. If they don’t have an ebook version i send it to 1dollarscan.com and have them make an ebook for me. Even the used books are a little expensive though. If they weren’t so damn expensive I’d buy it new.

  • Guest

    Wish i could even find textbooks pirated online. Its rediculus when your in college and the books end up costing a ton. Its just a scam to get more money by screwing over the students. The money will just go into idots wallets and none of it will help fix the problems varous schools are faceing. If the damn higher-ups wouldnt keep voting themselves payraises everytime voters give more money to schools then we might be able to fix things.

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  • Anonymous

    Well done on economics sir, you truly live by the homo economicus way.

  • Anonymous

    I think this is super smart if Joseph Henry Vogel turns out be the good guy. If any asshole book publisher tries to do exactly this, they would have to pay him royalty fees. Which would stop the publishers from extorting the students via this method.

  • MysteriousVoiceGuy

    Because, as we all know, the textbook industry just wasn’t ripping us off ENOUGH yet. As anyone who’s been through higher ed knows, students ALREADY get charged an arm and a leg for textbooks — if not for recent efforts like Chegg and similar companies students looking to not go COMPLETELY BROKE for the rest of their lives would have absolutely no valid, legal recourse. Seriously, textbook companies have a regular habit of taking their current gen textbook, moving around or rephrasing a bunch of the information, swapping a few pictures, and republishing it as a “new” edition (and then convincing professors that they’ll be irrelevant if they don’t require the “new” book) — same knowledge, different wrapping, big shiny new price tag.

    Let me be blunt: I’ve NEVER worked from photocopies instead of a textbook, never borrowed or shared someone else’s… and now, years later, I see what an idiot I was for NOT doing those things. I could’ve saved literally THOUSANDS of dollars from what my grandpa worked hard to put aside for me; instead I followed the status quo and the money went down the academic drain-hole needlessly. But no, I followed expectations and did what I was told: in a word, I was a CHUMP. As is every other unlucky student who follows in my footsteps.

    But Professor Vogel is doing his students a service by cunningly eliminating most current work-around methods: he’s driving home the ultimate point of 4+ years of higher education:

    “You will be poor for the rest of your life, because we say so.”

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  • tionico

    Prof Vogel is an economist… which means he is either a stupid one or a corrupt one. He forgets that US Copyright laws allow certain copying to be done under “fair use” laws. He also forgets that, when I BUY my own textbook, I also buy exclusive rights to the proper use of that ONE COPY… I can archive it, save it, change to another format and save, make backups for storage… and, when all done, destroy all those copies and resell the BOOK, with its copyright priviledges intact for the next owner. Copyright transfers with the format. His statement that this system will “help” the p[ublishers also displays his extreme ignorance/corruption. No, it won’t You watch, there will arise a totally legal work-round, and/or lawsuits preventing this.

    I know at the college I now attend, if any prof decided to join in this nonsense, he’d find himself on the “do not take” lists, and soon enough be out a job. No students, no paycheck. Simple economics. Even Vogel should comprehend that.
    One more nail in the coffin of “elite” “education”. Vogel must be a flaming keynesian. Mightly close to kenyan, that word…….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Murray-Orr/744222965 Murray Orr

    This is stupid. How can some publisher decide that every single degree requires multiple discussion board subjects (one for each book). It’s unnecessary and redundant. A blatant act to profit off students looking to better themselves in an already difficult world. Maybe if the books didn’t cost so much more people would buy them. This just makes me mad.

  • Highlandham

    This is SOPA for academics.
    Sad development
    No doubt students will revolt

  • justspareme

    Wonder if there are any hackers out there interested in giving this guy some patented

    Retribution.

  • JunkmailBin

    sounds like you pay me . I give you a higher grade. bribery is bribery whether by a pink professor or lobiest.  

  • Jim

    In 1997 the college algebra book I used had been revised every other year since 1960. This was obviously done to make older editions obsolete for the book resellers. Most of the revisions we cosmetic or minor grammatical changes. Textbook publishing is a racket.

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  • student

    The professor is uncreative and i’m sure he won’t sold more if his books this way, lol.  It is very important to separate entertainment industry and publishing business from education system, which should available for free!, because  we  should all prosper (long-term) from education of people and not only privileged individuals, and this mustnt be in control of a cunts that wish to make fast money.

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  • Lol

    Hey Joseph, burn in hell you POS

  • chumscrubber

    has anyone noticed that getting a good education is getting harder and harder? The last step would be to BAN studding at all

  • Daniel

    This is insane, information should be free and available to everyone. In the long run professor only shoots the humanity to the leg.. He should be relieved from his professor-title, behaviour which aims to disrupt and weaken society in the fundamental learning level reminds me more of terrorist-agenda. 

    Simply put, he is a traitor of mankind. 

  • Ereyes Az

    Having to pay extra fee when buying a used book is ridiculous. If I buy a book, I own it and the right to sell it to someone else.

  • Textbook Prices Are Insane

    It’s strange how professors’ policies towards textbooks changes depending on your major. When I was a Business major, every professor required the newest edition with an access code, so your only option was to buy new copies at about $150-200 each. In addition, many of the required texts were either written by the professor or one of their colleagues. 

    When I majored in English, the professors urged us to buy our texts second-hand at the surrounding bookstores and to share textbooks since they were all boycotting the on-campus bookstore due to its outrageous prices, even if it meant that the texts they authored wouldn’t bring in as much profit. 

  • Atomic Bitch

    Simple Solution to this Problem. FIRE THIS Greed Professor Henry Vogul. This type of backwards selfish thinking is totally wrong. It is the book to study so what its the material to learn and get thru to NEW STUDENTS WANTING TO LEARN.  Does not matter the source.  Books in schools and universities are paid for by taxes. Every student at school does not come with a  DOLLAR SIGN ON THEIR FOREHEAD – ITS A QUESTION MARK TO LEARN HOW TO GET ALONG IN THIS WORLD AND MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR ALL MANKIND.  This is fools thinking and wrong approach to getting more Doctors and skilled labor out in the world.  This Prof is surely thinking wrong for the total outcome of and in the Whole Entire education systems. Thinking to how to get the material out to all whom wants to learn it. Does not matter. Its the learning retention and testing of this.  Not the fabricating of pet students who have parents with money.  This is all wrong,  were this is has already gone and seems to be squeezing education away.  We need to attract all and as many whom want to learn to BETTER THEIR LIVES IN SOCIETY.  What has it taught already.   How about Professors having to pay students a percentage after he fails them.  Because he can’t teach people to be successful – maybe there should be something combating the silly with more silly.  Charge the Teachers and Profs for failing to teach so that all students can freely and easily understand the materials to learn.  So put that in your pipe and smoke it.  Remember Teachers Profs are all and only human.  To error is to be human and this is certainly a very Bad Prof coming up with a very bad and idiot angle to books of all things.   He should be showing the Students the best ways to learn and gain knowledge – not make it restricted.  Just what and where did he get his books when he was a student and what did he pay for books.  Shame he has to say not for me but for you !! — Shame on this type of thinking !!  Lucky we have open source and open book access.  Keep it that way – we all wish to be smarter and books are an adventure if not just for learning.  How about all and every student cancel and stop taking his classes and subjects !!  Bar him from teaching.  No students Prof out of job!!   A confucious say – he no man with eye can no read to eat.  He with no Pupal to teach he no teacher anyway !

    • Atomic Bitch

       This Prof is in the wrong line of business -  Politics would possible suite him better – I’d think most politicians are of the Daddy gang and anything can be purchased – like marks or answers to exams.   I think many have participated in similar activities.  Other thoughts to Professors/Teachers should be teaching material solely for the Attentive Student to make notes.  Reference to books should be by the research to proof.  Nothing more.  Having this type of system thrusted on the students to learn.  I’d simply boycott that class and or course and adjust my venue to learn a more constructive learning class.  Learning is to benefit – even basket weaving to carry rocks or something.  I don’t think this particular  Prof understood that and has to cheat his students by their money to learn.  Guess he felt cheated or is better at cheating and only wants to protect his art !! .. Nah .. boycott his class -and get the College/University to drop him from teaching.  Maybe he should think of a career selling  Snake Oil.

      Education is for the new young minds to carry on to the future to bring forth new ideas and learn to better what is.  If our children don’t have good  “CHEAP” education to learn the fundamentals – the technologies – the green ways of industry and productive ecconomics for all people to live and thrive – Then this lizard thinking is wrong.  Like our current control and manipulation to purchase books for advance passing grades.  Stop doing the Steal first and teach something productive so  All of Man Kind is advancing.  Stop Hiding all the good new stuff from people and change.  We’ve had enough of your stuffy dead old ways  Bring on the new freedom ways for all – Race does not exist – Its Humans with various lives that exist.  Share to all and share to live for a better Tomorrow.
      If it isn’t free its done wrong! .
      Time for a big change.  And education is the starting of that. Teach to better life

  • Tehproninja

    WAAAHH :P. Yes lets target poor college students and make it cost even more money.  If I had a professor get pissy about my textbook not be bought at full price I would drop their class simply on principle unless I had NO other option.

  • Proopnarine

    Wow. My only disagreement with the article is in the abstract where economics is classified as a science.

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  • PigFeed

    fat pigs like Henry Vogul can’t stop learning. thankfully, my classes next semester don’t require access codes. I also saved about $360 by downloading two of them on LibraryPirate

  • Gfg

    He is fucking kidding isn’t he??
    Some professors do sell their script for a shitload of money or they don’t sell any script and say you should buy the book he wrote (150Euros).

    Sorry WTF if you do this to the print industry, it WILL DIE.
    And matter of fact good education will be for the rich only.
    Welcome to tomorrow, you just have money or you will never have.

  • Atomic Bitch

    Hope this Henry the 9th Vogul is Cognoscente of these fine responses – Is not a Teacher one whom Teaches topics the students may learn to grow and live within society.  Is not a Professor one who has worked in the industry after a mastery and long term of exposure to experience.  Loves to share his life experience and becomes the professor! The one who is master of topic and share thru teaching the correct methods for his student audience to learn and carry forth his level of Knowledge without the use of alternate books.  Less he has written one – which by this experience would be the Methods.  So they will not change. Participating in class and lectures is to share all this. The Professor by then is freely happy to live his life days performing this to better the growing communities and his/her efforts are remembered by the Students Forever.   This one Henry Vulgar will be remembered as Henry JewRobThaStudents Vogul and will essentially be burned as the students shamefully burn his books at a near town tail gate party – thinking Damn that book cost me a Hundred Plus bux – be hey better than fireworks -  I can burn his ass now as he burned ours in cheating us with fake and false lies of cheating and taking.   Hmmmm  I’m sure many may think similar now and carry this back to his class and leave it on his desk with a poison Apple ! Dear Prof – Suck on this !  ” Alone” 

  • Etaoin Shrdlu

    I think you folks need to chill out a bit and understand what this is all about.

    1) Some random dude (who happens to be an economics prof, but whatever) came up with an idea
    2) He described it carefully in a patent application
    3) He patented it

    That’s it.  Nobody is using this patent yet.  And if they did, they
    would have to pay that professor a royalty for using it, so they’re not
    likely to do it.

    Notice that the patent requires that both publishers and professors buy
    into the system.  If your professor tells you “buy a new copy of my
    textbook or lose a percentage of your grade!” then you can tell the
    prof, “Sorry, greedyguts, I’m going to take a different class instead. 
    Enjoy your empty classroom.”  If your professor wants to opt into the
    system but his publisher isn’t interested in paying royalties to the
    aforementioned economics prof, then too bad for your professor, ’cause
    the system requires that the publisher opt into the web-based royalties
    distribution system.

    So, overall, this is a nothingburger.  If anything, what we really have
    is an economics prof who wasted his money to pay for the costs to get a
    patent that nobody is going to want to use.

    I mean, really, how many professors are going to tell their students,
    “Buy a new copy of my book or flunk the class!”  Sure, some try to
    force-feed their textbooks to students, but they cannot avoid
    book-sharing and other forms of fair use.  It’s just impossible in the
    real world.

    In the end, the student still has veto power:  just take a different
    class if you run into an instructor who is a complete dick about it. 
    Eventually, the school will tell the prof that since nobody wants to
    take his classes, his services are no longer required.  Q.E.D.

  • Mdukshtein

    So once that books code is used, the book is absolutely worthless and now must be thrown out? That must be great for the environment

    • http://twitter.com/sheepodoom SheepODoom

       Send the book back to this guy & DEMAND a refund. Lets see how well he does when he has to spend 100% of his income refunding these kids.

  • savagejen

    Richard. Stallman. 

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  • wiz

    This guy is a piece of fucking shit.

    Sorry to flame, but its true. He deserves to be fed to the dogs, after he’s been tortured, quartered, drawn, after being slow-roasted in oil.

    And the fucking bundle of overgrown stick has a PhD. Goes to show that doesn’t stop you from being a dumb idiot.

  • Naveenkb

    It is pathatic to stop the spread of knowledge like this. If our ancestors did the same we might not be here and the education would be limited to rich people only.

  • Lunaming1

    First, Why are they referring to using used books, borrowing books from a library, or borrowing a book from a friend piracy. Last time I checked, at least in the US, there is a such thing as a first sale doctrine, that says once a copyrighted work is sold for the first, the rightful owner of that legally purchase copy can sell, lend, or disposal in any matter, they see it with out infringing copyright. Second, I think its a little elitist to assume everyone can afford the full price of a book, I was a chemistry major, if not for used books or books on reserve, I could not afford half the books required for class. If they are going to implement such a system, I hope access to this board is affordable.

  • Librarian

    Reselling a textbook or the library lending a textbook is NOT piracy–it is called the bill of first sale, and when you or a library buys a copy of a book, you/they have the right to resell or loan or give it to whoever they want to.

  • Aravind Ghosh
  • Jaicear

    well, lets put it this way, there will always be a university that will allow students to have access to resources for them to learn, that will be a differentiation for that university, lets get real, does really this person believed that a printed book (his book) is going to be relevant for more than 6 weeks? is he going to be competing with the Internet and the tons and tons of information a student can find (for free) within seconds by just googling around? for sure he is one of those old ugly persons that have defined a plan to teach something that he believes he knows, but really, do we want someone that is more worried about not loosing any revenue generated by the pages he wrote ages ago, than for really providing education to the students, being even part of an education structure or institution? that is the big problem , universities are not dedicated to educate any more, they are dedicated to make money, even at students expenses… to sad, but true… look at this if you really want to know more 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U

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  • The Thinker 2.6

    So In Short, Everyone who goes to college who is poor and on a GrantScholarship or is just literally buried in Student Loans has to buy 100$’s of Dollars worth of Books for code usable for maybe 1 Semester to Get an A, so that they can get a good job and have an Acceptable Future? Total Bullshit. When i say This guy needs to be shot, Raise Lee Harvey Oswald from the dead and have him do it. God damned dick acts if he was a damned Wall Street ReP. Hey Hello budy!, were all not rolling in cash like Donald Trump, or   The Hiltons. I mean seriously that eans grades would drop, Unemployment would raise even more, College will become less used. Essentially Its a good plan if you look at it but if you break it down detail, to detail, consequence to  consequence. Its a total cluster fuck ass shit for The college [ Lower Enrollment rates, etc] The Students [ Grades would suffer = Lower Employment Rates] and overall Employment rates as is. As people would rather be employ having lots of $$$ and buying a freaking 150$ Txbook and several of them aswell. Rather than someone who probally did better than them in actually Work but suffered a grade loss due to not being able to participate in a  Online Panel about the Semester or ETC. Meaning you r Totally Bum-screwed out the arse. Seriouslys That professor should go rethink his life, and someone should look into how be even became a college professor!

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  • nz-cs-lecturer

    In a course I’m teaching we dropped our textbook because the author kept revising it so often.  We switched to a book that’s stood the test of time pretty well without
    changes.  For 4th year papers students are not required to buy any books at all;
    if they can’t pick up what they need from our handouts and the papers we point them
    to — the university having e-subscriptions to lots of journals they can legitimately
    use — we reckon we’ve designed the course wrong.  As for making a profit with a
    book, providing an e-book through Lulu.com or an iBook through Apple is really
    much easier than publishing a book normally and the students can buy such books
    cheaply, cheaper than photocopying. And the author gets a much bigger share of
    the profits!  So the economics professor is probably cheating himself most of all: if he e-published he textbook the students could buy it cheaply and he’d get most of their
    money.

  • Ron Rieger

    This patent isn’t about textbooks at all.  It is about instructors forcing students to pay for an online forum where they are getting a kickback.  An instructor’s job is to teach, not to sell books, or online access, or candy bars for a higher grade.  Used copies of a book do not violate copyright law.  Students who share their legitimate copies of a book are not violating copyright law.  Public libraries that loan legitimate copies of books are not violating copyright law.  The value of an online forum may be beneficial in some respects, but there are numerous options for that.  Many of which are free.

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