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Comcast’s “Six Strikes” Email With Infringement Details Surfaces

Together with four other internet providers in the United States, Comcast has started sending copyright alerts to customers who use BitTorrent and other P2P networks to pirate movies, TV-shows and music. Those who are “caught” will receive a browser notification, a voice-mail message and an email with details on the file that was allegedly shared. We have a copy of one of the first emails that went out on Tuesday.

comcastEarlier this week the six strikes anti-piracy system finally launched more than a year later than initially planned.

One of the things that stood out most was the lack of information released through official channels.

On launch day the Center for Copyright Information, who are in charge of the operation, were unable to tell us what measures the ISPs have in store for persistent pirates and none of the providers listed any detailed information on their websites.

Luckily, more and more details were published in the days that followed, but many questions remained.

For example, several Comcast consumers complained that the pop-up notification shown in the help section doesn’t include any details on the allegedly infringed files. How can people take action if they don’t know what they did wrong, people wondered.


Vague alerts shared in Comcast help section

comcast alert

This and other questions could have easily been avoided by clearly explaining how the “copyright alerts” are sent and what information people can expect.

TorrentFreak talked to one of the first recipients of a copyright alert and he tells us that in addition to the browser notification, he also received an email and a voice-mail message. The email (see below) briefly explains why the customer received this alert and also lists the alleged unauthorized download. The voice-mail carries the same information.

As expected the copyright alert is carefully worded. Comcast makes it clear that the notice comes from a copyright holder, to avoid the suggestion that they might be monitoring users’ Internet connections.

“A copyright owner has sent Comcast a notice claiming your Internet service from Comcast was used to copy or share copyrighted content like a movie, television program or song improperly,” the email starts.

The email further points out where people can download movies and music legitimately, and notes that the copyright alerts are supposed to educate consumers.

Interestingly, the email doesn’t inform recipients that after four warnings they will be unable to browse the Internet. Nor is it mentioned that the notice can be appealed. Subscribers will have to learn about the looming browser hijack and other details in the Comcast help section.

The infringement details at the bottom of the email are pretty much identical to the ones that were already sent out under the DMCA. It lists the title of the pirated file, a time-stamp, the protocol and IP-address.

While it’s helpful to see what accused downloaders can expect, the email doesn’t provide any new details. Again, what stands out is the lack of information, especially with regard to the option to appeal a “strike”.

The full email Comcast sent for their first strike is shown below. Have you received one yourself? If so, please let us know.

CENTER FOR COPYRIGHT INFORMATION

Alert #1: Potentially Improper Use of Copyrighted Material

Incident Number: 65XX
Report Date/Time: Tuesday, 26-Feb-2013, XX:XX:XX AM EST

NAME
ADDRESS
CITY, STATE

Dear Internet Subscriber:

A copyright owner has sent Comcast a notice claiming your Internet service from Comcast was used to copy or share copyrighted content like a movie, television program or song improperly. The content owner who sent us the notice has determined that Comcast is your Internet service provider and provided us with the information summarized below. Comcast used this information to identify your Internet account as the one referenced in the copyright owner’s notice. We also used this information to display the in-browser notification you may have seen on your computer and to send you this e-mail. You can view the notice Comcast received by going to Users and Preferences in MyAccount at http://customer.comcast.com/ and logging in with your primary account holder credentials. Comcast has not provided your name and address or other identifying information to the copyright owner as part of this notice and alert process.

Major Internet Service Providers, record labels and movie and TV studios have joined the non-profit Center for Copyright Information at www.copyrightinformation.org to let consumers like you know when copyrighted content might have been improperly copied or shared. The goal of this effort is to help educate consumers about the proper use of copyrighted content and provide assistance in identifying possible sources or causes of any activity that led to this Copyright Alert. Comcast encourages you to find and enjoy content online from the many legitimate sources available. For a better way to find Movies, TV, and Music please visit http://www.copyrightinformation.org/a-better-way-to-find-movies-tv-music. To learn more about these Alerts from Comcast, please visit http://www.comcast.com/copyrightalerts.

For more information please review Comcast’s Acceptable Use Policy and Terms of Service.

Sincerely,

Comcast Customer Security Assurance

Copyrighted work(s) identified in the notification from the Center for Copyright Information:

Infringing Work:TAKE CARE
Filename:Drake – Take Care (Deluxe Version)
Infringement Date:Tue Feb 26 XX:XX:XX EST 2013
Infringement Type:null
Infringement Method:BITTORRENT
IP Address:50.147.XXX.XXX
Reporting Party:antipiracy2@riaa.com
Reporting Party Case ID:222716XXXXX
Reporting Party FAQ:null

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  • Ray186

    And the Lawsuits begin in 3…2…1..

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Which will fail because most people have wireless networks today which are IMPOSSIBLE to secure, therefore an IP Address doesn’t mean crap.

      They keep on sending these things out thinking that they will scare people, but 75%+ of them just file these things in the circular file.

      • Ray186

        Sorry if I wasn’t clear. I meant lawsuits against the ISP’s.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          My stupidity, I was seeing red and I missed the ‘against the ISP’s’.

      • anonymous

        that is why the entertainment industries are doing things this way. if there are the required number of notices, regardless of there being no ‘proof’, the customer loses their internet browsing ability, which is no different to being cut off. i would have thought the first step is to find out what right an independent but particularly interested party has to monitor a persons internet connection? to be able to select a particular person, was the connection pulled at random or are ALL connections being monitored by those industries? if they are not monitoring, why are the ISPs doing so and just handing the info over, but denying doing any monitoring themselves? and like stated, why is there no information about being able to appeal the accusation? why is there no information as to what will happen if accusations continue? this must surely be against the Constitution!! perhaps a way round it is for a mass shut down of internet accounts from all ISPs? once they start losing money, perhaps they will see the error of their ways!!

        • utuxia

          i already posted a message on their forum that if I receive one notice, I will end my $400/month payment and go somewhere else. More people need to do the same.

        • Ophelia Millais

          If you are paying $400/month for residential Internet and cable TV, you shouldn’t wait till you get a Copyright Alert; just cancel your service now and find a better deal! Yipes.

        • utuxia

          That includes all cellphone planes, about $180 ontop of the $215 for tv/internet/phone.

  • Ray186

    Oops almost forgot Fuck YouCenter for Copyright Information.

    • One-Eyed Willie

      Fuck them indeed but one should not click on the link as clicking is acknowledgement by YOU and is part of due process. Deny them due process by finding a way, any way not to click on that message. They cannot continue to build a case against you if they don’t have that first click or acknowledgement and then the second and the third etc. Don’t play their game, play your own!

      • Truth

        how exactly is a click legally binding ? It could have been a cats paw on the mouse.

        • One-Eyed Willie

          To them it is allowing them to do the next step. I don’t think it is actually legally binding. I was using it more as a metaphor.

        • Who

          its not as there is no such law. only a signature by you is, or even your voice in some situations. that’s Y you never hear of an ISP suing a subscriber from breaking its TOS. and that’s another reason Y this hole thing is BS.

      • Orion Blastar

        ATL-F4 close window to bypass the click on the button to close the window that way. Problem copyright lawyers?

        • Punny

          I cannot find the ATL button, is there an alternate key I can use?

        • Orion Blastar

          The ALT key, I made a typo. It is a Windows shortcut and keyboard. Might not work on a Mac. What is the key combo for closing a Window on a Mac? I think it is Option+Apple+Esc to force quit a program, it does the same as ALT-F4 on a PC.

        • devnull

          I’m going to go out on a limb and guess he was being sarcastic. “Is there an ALTERNATE key”, alt is short for alternate. Side-note, his name is “Punny”

    • Tymon

      Nooo… Fucking them would probably end up giving me some sort of venereal disease. I mean these people are well known for fucking other people right? By now, I’m sure with the potentially hundreds of thousands of people they’ve screwed, they’ve caught something right?

    • bobmail

      Nothing like watching people get upset when they realize they can actually get in trouble for this stuff.

      It’s a happy day in the neighborhood :)

      • Tymon

        Getting in trouble for legally acceptable things is never actually an acceptable outcome. As I’ve posted, and potentially thousands of people have pointed out randomly over this whole thing… This system does not take into account fair use doctrine.

      • 7th_Guest

        You’re probably referring to the 5 ISPs once the first row of citizens’ lawsuits reaches the federal judiciary’s courtrooms and the whole Six Strikes racket gets some much needed legal light shown down its nastier orifices. Indeed, that’ll be a day of many a happy dry cleaner once the sweat-drenched CEO business suits start getting turned in and money finally flows back to the neighborhoods. Can’t wait for those days myself, so do save me a spot on them bleachers, bub.

      • IDIOCRACY

        Hey bobby, please explain how I would get into trouble? I cannot see any way how that would happen. Standard reply: I didn’t do it, I didn’t authorize it, I don’t know who did.. the presented evidence is no evidence so end of story..

        I guess you did not learn anything in the past few years. Might be hard to have no braincells, but again… you made me laugh… thanks for that,… it is good for ones health to laugh… it makes you live longer (more time to download) hehe

      • continues DL’ing 500 GBs worth

        Some people are easily amused I guess.

        Oh well…

        *continues DL’ing 500 GBs worth of stuff*

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        It’s a happy day for pirates, certainly. Every time you cultists from the first church of copyright try this kind of shit, the result is more pirates.

        Given how incredibly easy this is to circumvent, I see nothing for you to be happy about. VPN providers ,however, will be ecstatic.

        But then again, “Baghdad Bob”, you’ve made a long and prosperous career out of denying reality haven’t you?

      • MadAsASnake

        Except that a lot of these people are getting this shit for doing nothing.

        • Freedom123

          Listen people pay alot of money for Internet they should be able to use it how they see fit as long as they are not selling the contents that come off it without permission and people are not angry about a stupid alert system.

      • Hurr

        Pedro! Pedro! Pedro!

      • EricA3252

        FUCK YOU! and the horse you rode in on go back to Hollywood we can’t use your kind here.

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  • Anyone

    thanks for the template that all the ransomware viruses can now use ;)

    • ken147

      I hope that this ends up being the downfall of the 6 strikes law.

    • lol

      This would be a perfect ransomeware virus, I hope to see 20 variants floating around tomorrow.

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  • user

    I use http.

    • Ray186

      And?

    • Mantiz

      Wow really!! That’s awsome <— sarcasm

    • screw you guys im going home

      I like turtles

      • Tymon

        I like turtles too!

    • Guest321

      Not working for me. Crack please.

  • 1010011

    Drake? That’s a shame

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  • GreenPirate

    Uhm… copying copyrighted content is not considered infringement under DMCA. Why are they sending these notices?

    • Anyone

      because Comcast is part of Universal, so they are part of the MAFIAA

      of course they’ll lie and cheat, that’s the only thing they can do

      • Who

        yep you nailed it right there man.

    • Who

      because they want the people that don’t know any better to think the way they want it to be.

      • Who

        @Ophelia Millais: “Well, copyright copyrighted content is infringement under other parts of U.S. copyright law”

        not according to this:The Copyright Act provides for both civil and criminal liability for acts of copyright infringement. 17 U.S.C., Chapter 5. Infringement is a crime only where it is done “willfully and for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain.”

        this applies to ALL parts of the US copyright act.

        please note as it says “ONLY” “AND” “OR” meaning that infringement is ONLY a crime when its is done willfully AND for the purposes of commercial advantage OR privet financial gain.

        lets break this down: “commercial advantage” what is this?
        the LEGAL definition of this is “the benefit of a business”

        ok so what is privet financial gain? well that’s simple, profiting off of or pocketing the money from the selling.

        like I said folks for the LOVE OF GOD….please READ the US copyright act. as it states plain as day in IT that file sharing IS NOT breaking ANY law nor infringing on copyrights. it DOES NOT say this directly as so it can apply to other situations as well, so PLEASE READ between the lines and the fine print.

        • David

          Wow.. is that really what you think? “l2read” as some would say. All that passage is saying is that you can only be charged with a CRIME (key word here) when it’s done for commercial advantage or financial gain.

          When it’s not done for those purposes, then it’s a CIVIL matter. Which is exactly what you’re being prosecuted under by the RIAA, etc. They’re not the police. They’re not charging you with a crime. They’re a private enterprise raising a civil case against you. You’re still bound to attend court, respond, et al, to civil cases. You can still go to jail if you refuse to bind by the findings of the case (ie, paying your fine). It’s just you that you won’t get a criminal conviction at the end of it.

          Your last passage is particularly disturbing. Your belief that file sharing “doesn’t break any laws” and “isn’t infringing on any copyrights”. It does break copyright law, and it IS infringing – it’s just not a CRIMINAL act. It’s still an illegal one. Considering you quoted yourself “The Copyright Act provides for both civil and criminal liability for acts of copyright infringement.” and then focused purely on liability for the CRIMINAL aspect of such shows a poor misunderstanding of law in general. Discuss this further with a lawyer if you need clarification.

    • Ophelia Millais

      Well, copyright copyrighted content is infringement under other parts of U.S. copyright law. There are some exceptions for fair use and libraries, etc., but the general pubic’s file-sharing of entire copyrighted works is not one of these exceptions.

      The DMCA is a special part of U.S. copyright law. Among other things, it’s the part that says the copyright owners can’t sue an online service-providing company like Comcast for secondary infringement due to infringements by users, as long as Comcast abides by certain rules, such as following notification and takedown procedures defined in the law, and handing over customer info in response to subpoenas. (That is, Comcast has conditional indemnity: “safe harbor”.)

      The DMCA is separate from the Copyright Alerts system, which is a contractual agreement between ISPs, the copyright owners/reps, and the monitoring companies.

      Both systems result in users being notified by their ISP that a copyright owner has accused them of infringement.

      I believe Copyright Alerts is partially meant to address a shortcoming of using the DMCA notification system to address piracy. It’s not practical for the ISP to “take down” or otherwise block access to allegedly infringing content. It’s not like YouTube or Google where they’re somewhat more actively facilitating access to the content; the ISP is just the carrier. So although the ISP will pass the notice on to the subscriber, wthout some kind of penalty, there’s not much point. Hence, they’ve devised this Copyright Alerts system to wave the suspected-infringement notices in people’s faces, and to impose consequences for ignoring them.

      • GreenPirate

        Nice comment. Doesn’t DMCA specifically focus on “distribution” while ignoring copying?

  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    Very important that these five ISPs be made to feel A LOT OF PAIN for this arrogant abuse of their Customers…..er, Victims.

  • JordanKratz

    Looking forward to seeing lots of new Viruses.Actually sounds kind of funny if it is a harmless LULZ Virus.Just a Virus to show people you can use VPN and Proxy and other means to defeat Stupid 6 Strikes.
    Hackers make Educational Virus for the LULZ !

  • FrostyC

    Drake is trash.

    • Guest

      they should give out strike for bad taste, just because he downloaded that garbage :D

  • Midas

    IP != Person, but, fuck the law! Right, copyshit holders?

    • Guest

      this IS NOT law so feel free to sue if you ever receive this so called “strike”.

      they can pump that garbage in another man’s face.

      • Violated0

        Best wait a few notices to pile up the evidence first but the best point is when they restrict your Internet access in some way or charge you such as for the appeal,

        I can imagine a variety of laws to use but hard to name the best one out of so many possibilities.

        Yes this is sure no new law at work here meaning they have no protection from making accusations, One reason why they try to run off on the merely educational theme.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Actually, if you want to fire back…

          Ensure your computing environment is squeaky clean and have some punk hack his way through your router until you start receiving strikes. At each point, object to your ISP, claiming the truth – that you have not downloaded anything at all.

          Once the sixth strike lands, sue.

          At which point you can demonstrate that the devices in your home contain no copyrighted material, especially not the ones you’ve been sent notices for.

          In the courtroom ensure the ISP’s technical expert receives the question “Have you heard of Reaver?”.

          Profit.

  • http://twitter.com/forbannad Kinne

    I like the “non-profit Center”. ooookaaay.

  • Tymon

    Welllp on to a VPN for me. Under fair use doctrine downloading copyrighted works for the purposes of testing, critique, reviews, etc, is actually allowed and acceptable. Sadly enough nine times out of ten people who pirate stuff are in two of three groups of ‘pirates’, either group A: The people who pirate stuff to listen to/watch/experience the full product to decide if it’s legitimately worth paying for…If they deem it as such, then they buy it, if they don’t, they delete it. Is this a lost sale? Only if you take into consideration the fact people who don’t get to test out your stuff might go on blind faith and buy it and waste their money, get ticked off and feel ripped off, as a ‘successful’ sale. Group B: Is the group that genuinely cannot afford the products to begin with. Squeezing a stone and expecting water to come out of it, isn’t going to net water no matter how hard you squeeze, so this isn’t really a lost sale either. Group C: which is the very vast minority are the real bad guys in piracy. Those are the cheapskates who can afford it but pirate anyway, and then usually go off and sell their copies as being ‘legit’. Either way, the figures, “facts”, and other garbage that the RIAA, MPAA, and MAFIAA post regarding how much piracy hurts their income is a load of crap. Sweden and other true legitimate independent reviewers of this stuff have proven that time and time again. The ironic thing is, piracy actually IMPROVES sales. When will these idiots learn… A better idea would be to take all this money they are throwing at politicians and bribing ISPs to act as their watchdogs, and use it to actually make content that is actually worth buying, instead of the flotsam and other ridiculous trash they’ve been vomiting up and trying to sell instead.

    • Anon

      At this point you sound little more than a fucking, selfish idiot. And if you use a VPN and keep downloading, pretending it is for “testing, critique, reviews”, society will lose those rights to your crap behavior, too, and then to VPN’s, and you can take all the blame for that, too, for misusing it for your own personal selfish gain, like the rest of you entitlement assholes.

      • Tymon

        And at this point you sound like an MPAA/RIAA/MAFIAA minion. Am I supposed to care what you think? Yes, I download stuff to test to make sure it isn’t garbage first. It’s called being ‘smart’. I’m in group A. thanks.

        • Ophelia Millais

          Back in the heyday of record stores, I worked in one for about six years. This was in the early ’90s. Believe it or not, it wasn’t until the second half of the ’90s that listening stations popped up in all the major chains (Tower, Virgin, etc.) as well as many indie shops. It didn’t happen sooner because the RIAA threatened to sue the shops that installed listening stations, on the theory that they were infringing copyright by letting people listen to music before deciding whether to buy. The morons at the RIAA eventually backed down once they realized it was good for sales; albums in listening stations outsold all others, generally. Maybe they also realized that the public hated their guts for having these zero-tolerance positions.

          Another idiotic thing they did was voice their opposition to the first-sale doctrine; they were very unhappy about all the secondhand CD sales that were going on, and they were talking about trying to get it outlawed. Thankfully, that didn’t go anywhere, but I have not forgotten that little episode.

          Do not be tempted to cut these motherfuckers any slack. They hate try-before-you-buy, they hate the secondhand market, they hate radio, they hate libraries, they hate space-shifting, they hate anyone hearing recorded music in public (and, increasingly, in private) without payment per-listen, they hate that copyright law has limitations and exceptions, and they really, really hate file-sharing. Oh, and before they lost the Diamond Rio case, they hated portable players (e.g. iPods) and said they were illegal. Before a company too big to sue (Apple, then Amazon) forced them to drop DRM, they hated the MP3 format.

          How many times do they have to be wrong before they realize that zero-tolerance is not the way forward?

        • MadAsASnake

          Many more, at least.

        • Wallace

          “you sound like an MPAA/RIAA/MAFIAA minion”

          Bullshit. He sounds like a brownshirt. He’s more hateful, confused and irrational than the MAFIAA, who in these notices have even backed away from the false claim that sharing and copying is illegal.

        • Tymon

          Oh dear… I was trying to be at least remotely polite… Calling him a brownshirt… Oh dear… You certainly aren’t pulling any punches..

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Anon has in the past:

          1) Acknowledged he’s fine with being a fascist if abolishing civil rights means filesharers get arrested.

          2) Advocated rape in prison as a good addendum to punishment for file-sharers (expressed, it must be said, with a certain ghoulish delight).

          3) In the infamous case from Finland when a 9-year old’s laptop was impounded over the incomplete download of one song, he chose to defend the action by advocating “lifecrushing withering punishments sufficient to make even relatives deterred”.

          Yes, Wallace is in fact pulling punches. We can call Anon much, much worse and still not get close to even half of what he himself has admitted.

          That “wifebeater argument” indicating there is any good argument for abolishing civil rights?

          It’s actually pretty mild for “Anon” whose particular brand of lunacy first branded him with the “Baghdad Bob” epithet.

        • Tymon

          I see… I’m kind of new to this website, so I do apologize at my lack of info regarding certain user’s pasts. But… holy crap man… Either way, When I went to college, I studied business law, and, for the most part, I’ve done my research on copyright laws, business etiquette, (which at this point seems to be a thing of the past… Six Strikes is proof enough of that) and general laws that businesses have to abide by. While I’m no lawyer, nor will I ever claim to be, I feel that I know enough about the law when I can see something isn’t right. I try to keep myself educated on statistics, research, and other stuff. And the pages that you get sent to, are full of one-sided crap that paints all pirates as being greedy, evil, thieves, when the vast majority of them are not.

      • Typhoid Mary

        And you care because….? Get a life and stop interfering in ours.

      • Who

        he is correct. read the section under fair use in the US copy right act. its always been that way. just the MPAA/RIAA don’t like it and call it “public performance law” and there is no such law in the US. come on, Y do you think there even doing this crap, its because they CANT sue for fair use as stated in the LAW. so they are trying to scare people so they stop. not gona work. it wont be long before this crap is stopped as it violates peoples rights.

      • Foo Queue

        Still blaming the victims. You need to get a new script, nobody human buys into the shit you’re peddling, only sociopaths like yourself think that way.

      • Guest

        Ahahaha, the troll’s pissed off because we’re signing up for VPNs which makes us untouchable by the MAFIAA. So he’s gotta try and scare us away from using them.

        It isn’t working, bro.

        • Tymon

          Yep. That sounds about right.

        • Tymon

          Yeah. Using a VPN to actually do stuff I’m legally entitled to do, to escape punishment for something that isn’t actually wrong… The fact I even HAVE to use one says something is wrong to begin with…

      • More @non Than U

        You mean entitlement assholes like yourself, who think that every time the format changes you can stuff your hand in our pockets to pull out another $15-$20!! Do you buy a fucking new car without test driving it? Did you get married (assuming an ass like you could find a woman to marry) without dating her first…thats try before you buy, and alot of us do just that, you gonna buy that car if it doesnt fit your need?
        You need to just STFU and leave this forum to its own devices, anal-retentives like you have no place here!

        • Tymon

          Amen!

        • Tymon

          Exactly my point.

      • Wallace

        “At this point you sound little more than a fucking, selfish idiot”

        He doesn’t sound like a selfish person at all, given his complicated moral stance. And he is the exact opposite of an idiot given how much knowledge he has of the subject.

        However, I bet he is fucking a lot more people than you are. Nothing turns off a potential partner like dumb, random rage.

        Rightsholders are fine with testing, critique and reviews.

      • IDIOCRACY

        Hey you again, team up with Bobby today… why are you so grumpy today? did you get the chance to F*ck bobby in his … well you know the drill… you can curse but I can do that better if needed.
        You forget the vast amount of countries where it is legal to download, there you don’t need a VPN but use it anyway for enhanced security reasons…please explain why that is selfish. You think the United Corrupted States it the only country where people download stuff? or use VPNs? or use computers? or use portable harddrives? what are you saying? that portable harddrives are being outlawed soon because of pirates?? you sir are insane but made me smile like bobby did. hehe

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        “…society will lose those rights to your crap behavior, too, and then to VPN’s, and you can take all the blame for that, too, for misusing it for your own personal selfish gain, like the rest of you entitlement assholes.”

        …says the man who just advocated we should blame the beaten woman for being uppity and not the actual perpetrator.

        Yea, well, Anon. Ever since you felt compelled to say you were fine with being a fascist if it meant going after filesharers, the value of your moral judgment is roughly the same as that of Benito mussolini.

        We’ll just take that as yet one more rant where you advocate “life-crushing punishments” shall we?

      • platyourpus

        Why don’t you just fuck off,you’re nothing but a mafiaa troglodyte troll.Now get back in your cave.

      • Hurr

        GO FUCK YOURSELF, MAGGOT!

    • ralph

      I am pretty annoyed about the Copyright Alert System. I think Comcast, the MPAA, the RIAA and the rest of these guys are pretty contemptuous of the little folk.

      I think I will now stop being a little folk and refuse to buy anything at all until this secretive program is terminated. The whole think seems pretty sick.

      Oh, I guess I will buy a subscription to a no-log VPN service that doesn’t block Bittorrent. The excellent recent post by Ernesto and Enigmax has a list.

      I’m guessing the CAS will backfire, but it may take a while for that to happen.

      Maybe someday, after I am gone, Big Content will figure out a decent way to distribute their products instead of being totally committed to “my way or the highway”

      Why is it in the USA that we have to endure all the wrong ways first, multiple times?

      • Tymon

        Yeah… Sadly that’s the case in the united states. Because generally speaking, the people with the big money make the rules and control things. They don’t LIKE the little guy getting stuff that THEY have. They want to be the only one with their fingers in the cookie jar, and if you want any of the crumbs after they are done eating, you gotta pony up.

        • Fantastic

          Yea that whole 99 percent thing was quietly snuffed when they started to turn their attention to wall street and Washington. Course their allowing the Government Officials to speak for them rather than finding their own voice was a egregious misstep.

    • Ophelia Millais

      Under fair use doctrine downloading copyrighted works for the purposes of testing, critique, reviews, etc, is actually allowed and acceptable

      What’s fair use, as defined by U.S. law, is using relatively insignificant portions of works in those ways. Even that has limits, as in the case of sampling. No exception was explicitly made for using entire works, nor have courts carved out such an exception. But other than that, you’re completely correct on all points.

  • ralph

    It’s not Comcast who is tracking you. Oh, no no no!

    Comcast owns NBC/Universal

    This really smells

    Also, if MarkMonitor going to report a Bittorrent infringement it seems like they should give more information to the batter, like the piece numbers of the torrent that MarkMonitor supposedly collected from your computer, with timestamps.

    I would also like to know how much of the file they fetch before they call a strike. None of these procedures had an independent review, and none of them are public, i.e., they are completely secret. We have no idea what the methodology is.

    What review there was was done by a former RIAA lobbyist.

    The Obama administration gave its blessing to this. He’s the best President money can buy, I suppose

    I await lawsuits from the EFF and political pressure from Fight For The Future. I donate to both regularly.

    • Tymon

      Amen. Six strikes has no oversight or any sort of ability to determine the intent purposes, or legality of the download. Fair use doctrine does cover cases for actually downloading copyrighted works and whatnot. Since you have no ability to tell or give any indication, and they also charge you 35 bucks just to actually appeal a ‘strike’ I can only foresee many class action lawsuits arising as a result of people who have legitimately downloaded stuff.

      • bobmail

        The lack of oversight would be concerning if it was “one and done”, because any error would be fatal to the user connection. Six strikes is a pretty big number, way beyond the “oops” factor and pretty much right into the habitual peer / leech range.

        Ask anyone into stats… even a 10% error rate on any single item means that you pretty much need struck by lightning sort of bad luck to even get a single strike.

        • Tymon

          Because there will be absolutely no mistakes whatsoever, and innocent users will never be actually accused when they did absolutely nothing at all right? Oh wait…That happened with lawsuits they pulled in the past too… Like with people who had no filesharing software on their computer at all! When you are guilty just off the accusation, there’s a big issue with this.

        • y

          Silly rabbit, it doesnt matter if your inocent, we sort those small details later, besides whats the big deal /s

        • Tymon

          I disagree. They’ve sued people in the past who didn’t even HAVE filesharing software on their computer…at all! And it’s four not six if you are on comcast. Or did you forget to read the actual article we are commenting on?

        • bobmail

          You guys both miss the point.

          Mistakes happen, that is why it’s not “one strike and you are dead”… the statistical chance that they get six strikes against someone that are not at all justified would be pretty low.

          What you guys should be focusing on is that this is a big shift in the “responsiblity” for a connection, that is to say that they are counting strikes against the subscriber, regardless of who uses their connection. This means that if you happen to have a room mate that loves to download gay pr0n or whatever, you are pretty much responsible for his use too.

          That’s a big deal, and a long time coming. You guys might want to secure your wi-fi now.

        • Tymon

          Really? Responsible for his use? HAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!! That would be like a guy’s son stealing his gun, using it to commit a murder and they arrest him instead of the son just because he owned the gun even though his sons fingerprints were on it, in the blood of the victim… No. Just no. You are not responsible for the actions of someone else, that is definite bullshit.

        • Uh

          Except that I’m not required to secure my wifi, nor am I legally required to be responsible for what my users do with the wifi I provide as a neighborly service. If they want to sue someone they need to find out who used my wifi, which will be difficult since I don’t keep logs, and even if I did, MAC addresses are pitifully easy to spoof.

        • IDIOCRACY

          woehahaaahaaa. You are so full of lies and bullsh*t. This way of reasoning has been thrown out of court already numerous times… why do you keep insisting those lies are true, oh yeah I almost forgot you have no actual braincell left after all the LSD you used, your last trip evidently did not wear off yet, please go back to bed and do not forget the depend slip… you might give your mother more washing work to do. Maybe… and I say maybe, when you wake up from your trip, you might see how dumb and false these posts (of the past years) from you are and have been. But thanks again, now I had 2 laughs and a big smile… you made my day really good today…hehe

        • Ray186

          “That’s a big deal, and a long time coming. You guys might want to secure your wi-fi now.”

          You really need to educate yourself about WI-FI security and how useless it has become. Check this out: http://lifehacker.com/5873407/how-to-crack-a-wi+fi-networks-wpa-password-with-reaver

          “In a phone conversation, Craig Heffner said that the inability to shut this vulnerability down is widespread.

          He and others have found it to occur with every Linksys and Cisco Valet wireless access point they’ve
          tested. “On all of the Linksys routers, you cannot manually disable WPS,” he said.

          While the Web interface has a radio button that allegedly turns off WPS configuration, “it’s still on and still vulnerable.”

          The better question is what are the ISP’s that have been pushing wireless routers onto their customers going to do once this knowledge become widespread? In about 3..2..1..

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Save it. I’ve linked to the reaver hack for months here. Bobmail is unable to comprehend it.

          And of course doesn’t want to. In his mind the internet seems to be a series of tubes and he can stop filesharing as soon as he finds out WHICH unicorn is carrying the big tray of DVD’s through them.

        • Ray186

          Let me break it down for him. The WPS security protocol is only a 5 digit code. That’s right 5 digits. No matter how many alpha numeric characters your WPA password is, your WPS PIN is only 5 numeric characters long. Useless.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Still too technical for Bobmail, Nonamthanks, or Anon.

          So are shoelaces. Not exactly the type of people you can describe the OSI model to.

          Like PHB’s but without the B.

        • Bollocks

          ‘In his mind the internet seems to be a series of tubes and he can stop
          filesharing as soon as he finds out WHICH unicorn is carrying the big
          tray of DVD’s through them.’

          (fantastic)

          Bastard I was drinking coffee when I read that, now got to clean laptop keyboard and scree screen

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “You guys might want to secure your wi-fi now.”

          Not possible.

          As far as 99,99% of the population is concerned, their wifi might as well be open.

          Leaving us tech-savvy people in choosing whether we want our networks secure at the cost of hours of maintenance each week…

          …or whether we want to have plausible deniability by opening them wide from the start.

          So yes, “mistakes” will happen. Except they’ll be frame jobs, you idiot.

        • MadAsASnake

          Such as the first NZ victim. 3 strikes made up of 1 admission, 1 duplicate and 1 which she denied (and there was not a scrap of evidence for). Bet you that Mark Monitors setup is so innacurate that they really will be “catching” innocents, even at 6 strikes. Note also, in NZ and France, even with these vile 3 strikes laws, the “rights-holders” have been universally too scared to go after anyone that did not provide an admission. Even in law therefore, with the bullshit reversal of burden of proof, a simple denial beats the entire thing. BTW, the subscriber is NOT responsible for the behaviour of others. Case law. In the UK, if you want to sue, it must be the infringer – no-one else…

        • Hurr

          How much you get paid for this kind of faggority?

        • DD1

          I think that’s a very important point. its very hard to hold anyone accountable on the internet and this is certainly a step in that direction.

        • Tymon

          ‘Held Accountable’ You mean like, arresting people who vent on a blog that they’d like to kill someone, and they actually turn up dead, even though that person had nothing to do with it, they just had bad timing to vent? That kind of accountability? If you dissolve the anonymity of the internet and you care more about holding people accountable for crap that doesn’t even harm anyone, that kind of stuff would happen. So, it’s a step in the direction of having your freedom revoked. No thanks, do NOT fucking want.

        • Snobmail

          Unless every one of those strikes is for something that the law would consider fair use. The 6 strikes takes no account of this.

        • Liam JH

          only useful bit I can add is
          Fuck off bob

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “Six strikes is a pretty big number, way beyond the “oops” factor and pretty much right into the habitual peer / leech range.”

          Meaning the neighborhood kid has a new game going in which he can get his grumpy neighbor nailed at will without risk.

          “Ask anyone into stats…”

          That would be the same person you picked to tell you how Hogwarts science can magically tell you the difference between free speech and copyrighted works without monitoring everyone, all the time?

        • Kal

          Is calculating .1^6 too much trouble for you, Bob?

        • Hurr

          Go away, you dork!

      • platyourpus

        “they also charge you 35 bucks just to actually appeal a ‘strike’”

        That is so wrong,they charge their customers a fee to appeal,and don’t charge the mafiaa to send a copyright notice.
        That is no way to run a business,I’m sure they will hemorrhage customers,and it will serve them right.

        • invient

          Hughes Net or CenturyLink it is… they should start advertising they are not/never will participate in the strike system…

    • Ophelia Millais

      None of these procedures had an independent review, and none of them are public, i.e., they are completely secret. We have no idea what the methodology is.

      We have some idea, based on the non-independent review. It’s not a complete picture, but does get into some detail.

      I would also like to know how much of the file they fetch before they call a strike

      From the Stroz Friedberg report [click]:

      … the [collection mechanisms] request and download only a portion of a shared file from each peer, typically around [REDACTED] kilobytes. These individual pieces are verified by SHA1 cryptographic hash values to be part of the original targeted work and after the content is confirmed to part of the original targeted work, the download is stopped. Downloading only a limited portion of the file allows the [collection mechanisms] to minimize required storage space and target as many peers sharing a particular work as possible.

      • ralph

        Thx Ophelia….at least they are doing a peer handshake and fetching a piece or two…a troll might just take the tracker’s word for it. Of course, that is smarter if they want to sue you later. Better I guess never to answer if they knock on your real door instead of your virtual one. :)

        • MadAsASnake

          At least they say they are. There is no reason to beleive it as they will not make their software available for peer reveiw.

      • http://twitter.com/cbserviceslond Chris Biltcliffe

        If they don’t download the whole file, they can’t verify it by SHA1.
        SHA1 will only tell you if it’s part of a file you already have to verify against. Unless it’s an actual digital download that’s being shared (which would be *REALLY* moronic), they don’t have the original. Some dude rips a DVD/BlueRay and posts it on TPB, and the encoding settings he uses are going to make that digital copy of LatestMovieThatEverybodyWantsToSee unique, so the SHA1 hashes for chunks won’t match what the original DVD had, or what the industry police have.

        In other words, they’re lying. They either don’t verify SHA1 hashes, otherwise they’d *never* find anything matching, or they do, in fact, download the entire movie, check to make sure it’s what they’re supposed to be protecting, and then send out notices.
        If they’re not doing either of these, then they’re possibly committing extortion, as they have no evidence to back up their claims, but they’re still trying to extort $35 out of subscribers to appeal a bogus notice.

  • wargamer1969

    VPN, works great since last Monday…Always ways around these things. Some of us are alot smarter than any ISP or Infringing copyright wanna be cop.

    • Andrew Lee

      Nah someone needs to make a virus that uploads copyrighted data that is actively watched.

      The massive amount of incorrect warnings is sure to deal some major backlash towards the ISP.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chibijoshie Josh Chinnery

    What a shame this dude was caught downloading Drake of all things…

    • ralph

      yeh…Take care is on the Universal Music Group label, or on a label owned by them. UMG is one of the most rabid copyright dogs.

      Sic ‘em! Woof woof woof!

  • Eddie

    Curious, but what are they going to do about the 10 billion websites that do not require bittorrent like Youtube and Veehd?

  • horsemeat

    People saying downloading is not infringement and it’s fair use… remember you are running a torrent client. It’s not so much the downloading that’s illegal, it’s the uploading so fair use does not apply there.

    Now as for the amount they download from you to determine you are in violating their copyright, that’s a different story. I’d be guessing they are downloading at most one piece if any, more likely they are just puling IP addresses off the tracker and assuming it’s legit and seeing if it’s connectable. Doubt they have even downloaded the torrent to see if it’s legit probably got automated scripts looking at file names, I would be impressed if they have the resources to check every torrent posted on the internet and download enough data from every relevant IP address to verify they have enough to be called a copyright infringer.

    And unless there is a law stating all networks must be secure then it’s all worthless anyway. How can they prove it was you that infringed their copyright. If they make such a law then everyone is guilty including the ISP as no network is secure.

    All they are trying to do is scare people, and reeducate them into their way of thinking through fear. Then they try to take the morale high-ground stating it’s theft and stealing when technically it’s not, in some sort of attempt to make you look like a criminal. Some people are retarded enough to believe it as well.

    • Fifi Firewall

      It’s easy enough to block outbound traffic on the port number you’re using.

      • IDIOCRACY

        That will kill the traffic for inbound too hence no protocol is uploaded. better set upload to protocol only in the torrent client. You will however be kicked off private trackers when you do that.

        A better way is to block the IP addresses from these companies in your client so they cannot connect to you.

        Can someone give us the IP addresses?

        thet would be a nice and very informative article of TF hehe (when the list is regularly updated). Just copy paste the IP addresses in your clients blockIP filter list.
        hehe

    • Who

      the copyright act don’t say upload or download. its says distribution, so that counts as both. and it does apply to fair use. read it more carefully next time.

      • Ophelia Millais

        Correct, but if you’ll recall, the Stroz Friedberg “Independent” Expert Assessment of MarkMonitor Antipiracy Methodologies [click] that the CCI was talking up a few months back indicates that they’re only going after sharers on BitTorrent. They check to see if they can successfully get any pieces of the torrent content from the IP address in question.

      • ThinkB4YouType

        Youre an idiot….look up “distribution” and you will see what i mean!! A hint for you…….its NOT BOTH!!

        • Who

          yes it is as to distribute REQUIRES the downloading of. or the upload is considered for your sole benefit and is not considered distributing.

        • IDIOCRACY

          What I think is the misunderstanding here is the difference on a language translational matter. For example Publishing (read uploading) is illegal when you do not have the permission of the creator or rights owner for it. Downloading published material is in many countries perfectly legal even when it is Published illegally. Now distribution is an other matter. When I buy 4 CDs and I hand them out to friends, this is called distribution. When I use a digital or analogue platform to upload the same CDs to others (P2P or Radio), this is called publishing. So distribution is not the case in both, or as argued above is actually both depending on definition, which means that there the distribution is compiled out of multiple actions from what some are legal and others are not. So depending on which words are used in the Law, upload is considered fair use too.

          This is not the case in for example the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Finland etc. where the copyright law talks about “receiving information” and “publishing” in this matter, one should set its upload in P2P on protocol only when you live there and want to stay in legal waters (pirate phrase)… then no pieces are uploaded but it will kill the torrent eventually when everyone does this.

          Glad to be of help hehe

  • BossStatus

    I have a question if you get a notice like this from Comcast do they send it through US mail or is there somewhere where i can locate these accusation to see if ive ever been “Caught” i never use my Comcast email and im guessing these emails get deleted when not read by 45days? even just DMCA notices do they send them through US Mail and Email or just one?

  • Foo Queue

    Have any of the copyright monopolists stopped to think about how many customers they’re going to force into paying for a VPN form here on in? Paying a monthly subscription for a VPN means you have exactly that same amount of disposable income LESS to spend on entertainment.

    Ergo, the six strikes scheme will mean people will buy less stuff, because they won’t be able to afford as much… good business plan… shot yourself in the foot once again MAFIAA.

    • 7th_Guest

      Have any of the copyright monopolists stopped to think about how many
      customers they’re going to force into paying for a VPN form here on in?
      Paying a monthly subscription for a VPN means you have exactly that same
      amount of disposable income LESS to spend on entertainment.[...]

      You seriously believe their anti-piracy crusade would’ve escalated to the point it’s reached today if Big Content was even a tiny bit interested in understanding – much less caring about – their customers and what they want? To them, they’re all just walking wallets to be conned out of their hard earned money with shiny, vacuous content under civil rights stripping terms of service when they’re willing to pay and to be hunted and shaken down for even more cash by legislative and litigious dogs (read, politicians and lawyers in their payroll) when they go the sharing way on account of imaginary losses. Normal folks’ budgetary restrictions don’t even enter those corporations’ thought process anymore than they do that of any local organized crime syndicate extorting cash out of poor shopkeepers. Why do you think they got the name MAFIAA in the first place? Does the phrase “fuck you, pay me” ring any bells for you?

  • IsmellBS

    I already got a damn DMCA for friggin “Shark Tank” a free ABC show that i can watch on my local tv station wtf is this shiznit? this is complete BS!

    • Guest

      Tell them you refuse to patronize an ISP that accuses you of copyright infringement and cancel your account.

    • bobmail

      If it was free to watch, then watch it on ABC. Just because it was over the air doesn’t suddenly grant you the right to download it from anywhere you like, without commercials natch.

      Entitlement is the biggest problem in the US right now, and you seem to be in the forefront of it!

      • Tymon

        The biggest problem in the US are the greedy ass copyright holders who prey on innocent users, trump up their statistics with fake utter bullcrap to show that they suffered huge losses, and post those statistics as part of the reason of how piracy damages the economy. People who you seem to clearly back. Pro tip, try reading studies conducted by actual legitimate independent organizations rather than the lapdogs that the MAFIAA and co pay off to show the damages. The truth of the matter is, Piracy and file sharing IMPROVES their sales. What the MAFIAA and co do, would be akin to Ferrari saying every single person who rides in a Ferrari is a lost sale if they do not own it. This would equal billions of dollars in lost sales to them. Obviously they aren’t going to do it because it’s stupid. Yet…the RIAA, MPAA, etc, do it every day and no one really calls em on it…

      • Guest

        What, are you part of the bunch of distributors who insist that changing the channel while commercials are on is stealing? Are you for retroactively illegalising things that were legal for decades?

        It’s pretty much clear that all that industry white chocolate is cascading down your lower lip, mate.

      • IDIOCRACY

        Bobby, hi there again…. and you did it again… you make me smile…not laugh yet… but that might come when I read other posts of you hehe. But… so recording over the air transmission with your set-top box and fast forwarding when the adds are there, is illegal too??? Or watching with a 30 minutes delay (using the same set-top box), so you skip the adds? Your line of reasoning not mine…

        You sir are delusional. hehe

      • tao54nyc

        So I guess taking a whiz, getting a snack, or checking email with the TV on Mute during the ad breaks is also “stealing”?

      • Hurr

        JUST FUCK OFF, MAFIAA TROLL!

      • BJonesTF

        Like the ‘entitlement’ that government protections used to be 28 years, max, and now the ENTITLEMENT complex has taken it to a century or more?That kind of Entitlement?

  • Andrew me

    AT least a court case will resolve this in the pirates favor, if not then they will still continue to do what they are doing, just by other means. And hopefully this will encourage further development into anonymising torrent sharing.

  • Ophelia Millais

    This answers the one main question I had, which was whether they were going to be sending notices for suspected infringements from prior to the announced start of the Copyright Alerts commencement on the 25th of February. The date of alleged infringement was Feb. 26, so it appears (at least so far) that they are not looking back any further.

  • http://twitter.com/AnonyOdinn AnonyÓðinn

    Yes it is possible that not everyone falls into Sonic.net’s service area – @dane of @sonicnet has confirmed opposition to both #SixStrikes and #CISPA (see my TL for some details on this). See also http://sonic.net/solutions/home/internet/fusion/ – But if you don’t fall into Sonic’s service area and can’t switch to them, and if you can’t find a small internet service provider to switch to that won’t support Six Strikes, then you can pay a small fee of three dollars per month that helps fight Six Strikes and pays for a service that masks your internet traffic. Check out this service here. http://cms.fightforthefuture.org/six-strikes/

  • Anon2013

    I’d be interested to know if the person downloading the work in question was using PeerBlock and if so what block list did they have or if they didn’t use PeerBlock How long did they seed the work for as in hours or days??.

    • Matthew Welch

      PeerBlock won’t help you with this. Keep it on but also get a VPN then they can’t track you.

  • commenter8

    Best countermeasure is to dump Comcast for a non-striking ISP. If Comcast and the other strikers see their ISP customer base disappear, all ISPs will receive a good lesson regarding customer abuse.

    • JohnGaspardo

      if the lesson is to proform gangbang rapes of customers they sadly already learned that one and consumers have been taking it in the ass again and again ever since…

    • Tymon

      If only that were an option… With Non-Compete agreements (Which I do not even see how that is legal… I mean aren’t monopolies SUPPOSED to be illegal in this country?) many people do not have the option to tell broadband internet to screw off, because that company is the only choice they have. I’m in that situation.

    • Hurr

      Create your own separate wireless, encrypted network.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=676827475 Luke Solis

    I can see someone make a copyright virus. that will fuckup this whole scheme real quick.

  • Shoop Shoop

    That’s what you get for downloading Drake.

  • http://twitter.com/MNguyen88 Michael Nguyen

    i dont get it i may or may not have been downloading all week shows possibly and i haven’t gotten 1 email.

  • bedouin

    I don’t know if it’s related or not, but on Saturday my dad (who’s a Comcast user) called and said he couldn’t send e-mails anymore but could still receive them.

    I logged in remotely and found out that port 25 outbound had recently been blocked. Sort of a strange coincidence.

    • IDIOCRACY

      Port 25 is used for sending email using your own SMTP server, when you use the SMTP server of comcast, you will still be able to send email. With most ISP in the world, this port is becoming blocked to prevent SPAM from being send by home computers (SMTP runs very easy on a normal PC and the use can be controlled by f.e. a trojan).

  • JohnGaspardo

    For those of you in the comments i plead with you that you never back down. These multinational corporations and their paid off government lapdogs will never stop and neither should you.

    • Anon2013

      I’ve been sharing since the napster years and I’m not about to stop now LMFAO as for others they may be easily scared but I been down a hard road in life and I myself don’t get scared.

    • Who

      “These multinational corporations” you can thank the government for that. it never used to be this way.

  • Orion Blastar

    The US Constitution says we have to have a due process system of a fair trial. This six strikes system is not due process nor a fair trial or any trial at all. It is a violation of rights and it is Unconstantutional.

    • Anon2013

      Exactly, In the United States this should be very much illegal to use a system such as they have setup.

    • tao54nyc

      The constitution only applies (supposedly) when the Federal government does these things, not private corporations. Comcast can violate the 4th Amendment all it wants. But then so does the TSA, so I guess we’re all just fucked.

      • Who

        “The constitution only applies (supposedly) when the Federal government does these things”

        then Y does it say WE THE PEOPLE? and not we the government.

        but ya ALL corporations are corrupted now and break the law all the time.

  • Anon

    I see alot of complaints and blame being shifted towards Comcast and other Isp’s, but please remember, the ISP’s were being sued and strong armed into adopting the CAS. Had they not accepted the current terms, much steeper conditions were going to be imposed, so being the corporate entity that the ISP’s are, they compramised.

    The thing I have a problem with is the 35$ charge to challenge a strike. I understand that the charge was implemented to try and keep a flood of actual guilty parties from constantly trying to contest the strike, so having to pay 35$ just to contest it, chances are, only the innocent will actually go through the steps to be cleared. Still it is outrageous to me to charge the money even if it gets refuned if you are found innocent.

    Lack of oversight from a nuetral party is bothersome as well. But then again we live in a nation where the federal government by law requires you to purchase a private product(Obama Care), which is a ridiculous assumption of power and drasticly unconstitutional. Government has spent the past 80 years whittling away the restraints on power in the constitution so they can engage in self aggrandisement, and the very things that our founding fathers feared are already here, and then some. The founding father would not of put up with 15% of the laws we have, or the regulations, just imagine trying to convince them to pay an Income tax(which is also unconstituional), which we pay from every dollar earned as if we were indentured servants. They would go to war before letting that happen, they went to war for far less.

    • Mark

      Weren’t the “founding” fathers really evil corrupt white men bent controlling the western world?

      I thought, they were a bunch of atheist assholes pretending to be god worshipers who lied, cheated and kill so their bloodline could continue from Egypt to England to the new world?

      I could be wrong, but heck that what college, CUNY, thought me…

    • Ophelia Millais

      You had me up until you started bashing Obamacare and income taxes, so no upvote for you.

      Look, I don’t care Obamacare is imperfect and limited; it’s a start, and it can be tweaked to make it better. As for federal overreach, well, the states have had all the time in the world to develop a health care cost-containment and insurance system that doesn’t screw us all over or leave tens of millions uninsured or underinsured and without proper health care…but year after year, nothing gets done and costs soar because the “stakeholders” (the entrenched businesses, not the public) don’t really want reform. There’s little choice but for the federal government to do something about it, and Congress voted multiple times to give the government that power. If that’s a problem, I suggest you get on the warpath to try and convince all 50 states to implement coordinated reforms ASAP. Let me know how that works out for you.

      And dude, we all pay taxes, and nobody supports 100% of what they pay for. But if you think income taxes are unconstitutional, you can add your name to the list of people who have tried and failed to convince the courts of that. It would probably be more productive than your commenting here. :)

      • Anon

        Learn the history of the income tax, it was only to be a temporary tax boost for WWII. Government never relenqueshes power that it has, that is why there are revolutions.
        As for you’re issues about health care, it is NOT goverment’s buisness, whenever you ask government to solve a problem, you have just created the biggest problem you could imagine. Obamacare as I put it will require EVERYONE to purchase health insurance, whether they want to or not. It isnt some garbage about making it more available to people, it is a power grab, and it it overreaching the bill of rights. Starting 2014, everyone over the age of 26 will buy law have to relenqush 12-15 thousand dollars towards healthcare, so really we are talking about a tax increase.
        By this same crappy arguement, they can next require all americans have 2 years to replace thier automobiles with more economical hybrids, and they can push it saying it is best for the enviroment just like they push crap like healthcare saying it is for the poor and the needy, it is just vote buying and power grabs, and it standardises the quality of care across the board, meaning everyone will get a medicare level of care, which is a lower quality of care than if you were to pay out of pocket or have a private plan now.

    • Hurr

      Ooh, you are trying to be witty!

  • http://slyck.com/ zbeast

    comcast has always been a bunch of asses… I’m very glad that i’m not in comcast country.

  • aNobody

    I hear WOW ISP has no download and upload limit and uses cable for fast speeds like comcast !!

  • Pelham123

    I like these notices, for one very important reason …

    They’ve stopped lying about copying being illegal, and they’re even acknowledging that sharing is essentially legal.

    Instead, they now say “improper.” And by improper they mean only “we don’t like it and we own or have a sweetheart deal with your ISP.” Fair enough. All true statements.

    • Anon2013

      Well we can use them to our advantage to counter their attacks on our fair use rights.

  • humpadink

    So they just send you emails and voicemails? Just ignore them and there must be a way around that browser hijack surely. They can’t assume you read or heard their warnings in a court.

  • http://twitter.com/spoonpie2 me h

    drake chop care is better than this version

  • Anon84575

    HAHA Let em keep wasting money…. :)

  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    Is the kind of informed and sophisticated p2p activist who reads TF the most likely or most immediate threat to the implementation of SIX STRIKES?

    I think not.

    Why?

    While it is true that such a person could be the most committed and resourceful adversary within the SIX STRIKES process, it is also true that the most active and proficient users of p2p technology are precisely those most likely to avail themselves of a VPN; to be members of private trackers; to use a seedbox; to never adopt a username twice; to know the difference between a weak password and a strong password; to know to truecrypt a hard drive; to pay with Bitcoin; to never use correlatable real personal information on any website; and, therefore, but for false positives, are the least likely to become the charged subjects of SIX STRIKES.

    How about the low hanging fruit among p2p users who will undoubtedly be present disproportionately and en masse within the SIX STRIKES system? Are they likely to pose the most immediate credible threat to the implementation of SIX STRIKES?

    Despite their mass, the least informed casual p2p users are more likely to be a threat to themselves than to SIX STRIKES.

    Why?

    If they don’t use sophisticated obfuscation technology, perhaps they don’t use it because they can’t afford it and don’t understand it. Even if innocent, perhaps they can’t fund a legal defence; and, don’t have the background to mount an effective personal effort. If they find it easier to go with the flow, than resist, perhaps it’s because the SIX STRIKES system was created exactly to deny them meaningful legal rights. In short, these are the victims of SIX STRIKES; and, NOT its most effective challengers.

    So then, what victim represents the most immediate and effective threat to the implementation of SIX STRIKES?

    The ISP’s very BEST Customers. That’s who. The best educated; most resourceful; aggressive; and, controlling, of those wealthy Americans who can easily afford to pay the Copyright Holder’s monopoly premiums without qualms. That’s who.

    Why?

    These Customers are near the very top of the American financial and professional pyramid. They pay Billions to ISPs on the expectation that they will get exactly what they pay for. They are neither patient nor tolerant; and, they possess the means and skills to protect themselves. They have been given to understand that SIX STRIKES is all about putting the clamp on proven criminal free-loaders.

    The confrontation with false positives that is awaiting these top customers is the single biggest threat to SIX STRIKES.

  • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

    and so the first internet policing has begun. that there are no appeals and rights on the form does ring alarm bells. this needs immediately taking to a solicitor and appealing, whether you have shared or not, as your rights to appeal seem to have been overlooked and this is illegal

  • torrent freakster

    Did anyone else download “Drake – Take Care (Deluxe Version)” ?

    Music sucked though. Bunch of racial wanna be gangster crap.

  • torrent freakster

    I wonder how many users comcast and other cowardly ISPs will lose.

    Perhaps a list of ISPs that do not use 6 strikes should be listed at TF?

    • Ophelia Millais

      Isn’t it easier to just look at the list of five ISPs that do participate, and say “any ISP but them”?

  • Mark

    If I ever receive a letter or an accusation, how do I deny it? Why are they calling my house and is that even legal?

    It would be upsetting if they call my house, and worse they USE a non human, non empathetic robo call system.

    Funny they went from jobs in america, jobs overseas, to now no jobs, just robo calls. I hate capitalism…..errrr….!!!

    College education equals zero!

    • Matthew Welch

      You have to pay them 35 dollars to dispute it (seriously). Not sure what the review process is from there, but knowing YouTube’s review process if this is at all similar you will likely lose your money and still be accused, regardless of if you are really guilty.

  • bp

    They teach us the importance of copyright backed by force, while we teach them the spirit of sharing

  • joexxx

    What you need to do is call Comcast and request the TOS document.
    Read the document. This is THE ONLY thing you agree to when you sign a business agreement with Comcast.

  • Guest

    If I share a Linux distribution with the same filename as BluRay rip you will have to spend 35$.

    If you provide free internet access via WiFi you will have to password protect it.

    Way to go United Fascists of America.

  • long live piracy

    give up on these shit isp’s, make them go in bankrupcy!

  • Blah blah and blah

    Filename:Drake – Take Care

    Record Labels – Young Money Entertainment @ Cash Money Records

    Parent Company – Universal Music Group

    Mass Media @ Telecommunication – Vivendi

    Let’s suppose that whenever you download a song or album from any artist using Comcast, you better not download any of them owned by UMG. :P

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Universal_Music_Group_artists

    Thank god I don’t have Comcast.

  • Who

    “god I am sick of explaining shit to people” please read a comment I posted to myself below. thanks and enjoy your internet activity.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mwonch Michael Wonch

    Even if someone is a chronic file sharer going well beyond the “try before I buy” mode, how could they possibly enforce this in court? Seriously, proving an account was not hacked, accidentally shared (yes, this happens), or any number of other possibilities is impossible without actually witnessing the supposed “crime.”

    Since this is a PRIVATE scheme, the companies seem to think they aren’t liable for, say, Provable slander. Put a name to the documents – it becomes libel. Chris Dodd is F’ing them over, and the companies simply do not see it.

  • Bullshit

    So we can thank the MPAA/RIAA for imposing their will on ISP customers through lobbying?

  • guest

    This is all very interesting (not to say entertaining) but there is a larger issue here. How are creative folks who are film makers or musicians or writers, etc. supposed to make a living? It’s obvious that yesterday’s business models do not work when it comes to the internet. I for one hate big media, big government and all the rest just as much as you guys, but put yourself in the position of an artist. Can you figure a way to put food on the table and not fall into the copyright swamp? What business model makes sense for an individual artist as well as the producer of a multimillion dollar Hollywood movie? Please note that I am not an apologist for the middleman/media industry. I am just another file sharing consumer who would like to continue to use the internet marketplace and at the same time maintain some shred of personal ethics. How about a yearly license such as the BBC levy in Britain? Or………

    • Dave

      There is a notion that downloaders do not buy DVDs, Blu Rays, or CDs(or buy from Itunes). That is a big fat myth. In fact last year a study was done showing those who download movies and music tend to buy more CDs, DVDs, and Blu Rays than those who don’t.

      The problem today and right now is the economy. Which is the real reason sales are even lower. That and products from the music and movie world keep getting worse. Look at great movies like The Dark Knight, The Avengers, andThe Dark Knight Rises. They were great movies that exploded at the theater. Making unheard amounts of money. Stoping pirating wouldn’t have made it much more money if any. Most people who are hardcore downloaders and never buys movies or music are never going to buy those DVDs, CDs, and Blu Rays.

    • ItsTheSasquatch

      Personally, I’ll go out of my way to buy legit from any company that treats its customers with respect. Indie game devs, or even non-indie devs like CDProjekt who openly oppose DRM–I buy their stuff without hesitation. I wasn’t even interested in The Witcher, but I bought 1 and 2 both when I heard they’d come out against DRM (as it turns out, I ****ing loved both games, too).

      Companies that don’t treat us with respect, though… I’m not paying for their shit. I don’t even want it. When I pirate it, it’s just to say “fuck you.” Judging by how much bribe money and vitriol they’re throwing around lately, I’d say they’re getting that message. If only they’d accept the fact that it’s their own behavior provoking it.

  • bobby

    Can’t wait to see the responses from the “rights holders” to false-positive recipients. Honest mistake? Human error? No harm no foul?

  • Go Die

    The fact that it has gotten this far is beyond pathetic. “Center for Copyright Information.” -non profit…. right. The people responsible for this corrupt BS harassment should be shot immediately… or maybe just publicly humiliated. This crap just pisses me off.

  • Timmy?

    Patience people. For every problem, a work around is built. Sometimes, it takes a moment for it to be developed.

    • Matthew Welch

      There’s already a work around, VPN.

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  • Unfettered

    What’s fucked up is that Comcast sent us 2 emails claiming copyright infringement. Both times were false. If that happened during this 4 strike bullshit, we’d be half way to losing our internet. Only 1 time in the years I’ve used bittorrent has Comcast actually sent us a legit email about using bittorrent.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan-Wells/100000612182732 Ryan Wells

    I have to wonder if this system is really in place.. I still have not gotten anything after more than a week of it “being online.” The first letter I get however I will instantly switch from ATT to Mediacom(local cable company not participating). This is an insane invasion of privacy and I don’t want someone snooping around everything I am doing in my alone time…

  • Thomas1958

    I noticed downloads getting disconnected inside uTorrent and then they reconnect but it takes longer any idea’s.

    • Ophelia Millais

      Well this is not the uTorrent support forum, but it could be any number of things… your router needs a reboot, or you’re getting too many connections going at once perhaps … Watch the network graph in 5-second mode, and try cutting your download rate in half and see if that smooths things out for at least 5-10 minutes. If it does, inch your max speed back up little by little until you figure out the threshold. That’s just one, kind of overly blunt way of dealing with it. The actual problem may not be the download rate, per se. But it is highly likely it’s something on your end.

  • Thomas1958

    On private sites it works great this is something new happening and it can’t be just me.

    • Dave

      From what I have read private torrent sites aren’t affected by this. Meaning those people tracking downloaders down can’t yet track those private sites. Of course I’m guessing that won’t last all that long.

  • Garfl

    I don’t use my ISP’s email address or DNS server. How will I receive notice?

    • Dave

      It says in this article that Comcast is also sending out voice mails about this as well.

  • elderago

    these copyright information links lead to a page that list time warner, verizion and comcast, they are using this as a away to get people to buy their own subscribtions services, those bastards

  • Qoaa

    I notice the copyright letter was for “Drake – Take Care (Deluxe Edition)”

    Ok Center for Copyright Information

    Streisand effect

    http://kat.ph/drake-take-care-deluxe-edition-223-kbps-t6537612.html

    enjoy

  • Mark Tarrabain

    One question springs to mind, however… *DID* anyone utilizing that subscriber’s IP (whether it was him or somebody else using his internet connection) actually download the alleged work?

    • Dave

      That is the big problem with this program. Since your IP address doesn’t necessarily mean that it was you downloading and they can’t prove it was you any other way this program is meaningless.

  • Anon123

    Tribler works great if your looking for stuff.

    • Tony Rogers

      Anon123, I guess the good thing about Tribler is that it’s Fully decentralized no need for trackers or indexing sites.

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  • Bagdad Bob

    1. Make self porno named The Wizard of OZ.

    2. Put Copyright notice in.

    3. Post on torrent.

    4. Collect all IP addresses.

    5. Send ISP notice for all .gov and peerblock IP’s.

    6. Once they get six strikes you can request their info and sue for downloading your porno.

    Good Luck………

    • TymonTheThief

      Lmao! Request CCI’s info and sue them for downloading your self-released porno? Yeah. Bahaha.

  • PiratePro

    Should have blocked the peer..

  • barenaked

    Get a seed box and you can avoid all that. Then just use sftp to download what you need when you need it. Dtsleech is a great place to start. http://www.dtsleech.com/aff.php?aff=239

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  • BSLover

    I received 5 letters similar to this. The files it said I was supposed to have downloaded do not exist on my computer and never have! Is this a legitimate letter from Comcast?

  • jack

    Fuck that Im on a cloudload seedbox now

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.wier.3 Joe

    I received one today by Xfinity comcast today moral of the story is I’ll just take a laptop to the local wifi hot spot I.E. Mcdonalds, coffee house, Panera to do all my file sharing. Ill be switching back to WOW internet too.

  • Bill

    WOW wont save you. I got one from them today as well.

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