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Court Orders SOPA-style Blackout of 100+ Music Sites

Every single ISP in India has been ordered to block 104 sites offering unauthorized music. A total of 387 ISPs must block the sites immediately via DNS and IP address blocking, backed up with Deep Packet Inspection. While the IFPI praised the action, their Indian counterparts are singing are more interesting tune – they don’t want to destroy their opponents, but bring them into the business.

“Content theft is a global problem and we must have a global commitment to solving it. This is an important opportunity for the Indian government to move forward with strong protections against online theft,” MPAA chairman and CEO Chris Dodd told the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry conference this week in Mumbai.

“We encourage the Indian film industry to reject as we have, the false argument that you cannot be pro-technology and pro-copyright at the same time,” he continued.

In framing “content theft” as a problem affecting the county’s middle-classes and alongside a clear dig at the likes of Google and Wikipedia, Dodd’s words could have been pulled verbatim from any pro-SOPA speech. But unlike the United States, India doesn’t need new legislation to allow site blocking – they already have it – and Dodd must be as jealous as hell.

Indian film companies have previously obtained court orders to have sites blocked at the ISP level but in recent weeks the IMI, the RIAA-like Indian Music Industry trade group, has shown the movie industry how it’s really done.

In a series of court actions at the Calcutta High Court, 142 music companies of the IMI have succeeded in obtaining orders to force every ISP in India – 387 in total – to block 104 sites (list here) the industry accuses of online piracy.

And when it comes to implementing the blocks, there are no half-measures. ISPs have been ordered to implement DNS and IP address blockades and for those thinking of using a DNS outside India, Deep Packet Inspection will step in to ensure the domains remain blocked.

“This decision is a victory for the rule of law online and a blow to those illegal businesses that want to build revenues by violating the rights of others,” said IFPI CEO Frances Moore in a statement.

But in a clear signal that for the music and movie industries even the toughest of anti-piracy measures are never enough, Moore says that current developments are a good start.

“The court ruled that blocking is a proportionate and effective way to tackle website piracy,” Moore noted, adding that the Indian government should now “build on this progress” by advancing further legislation to tackle digital piracy.

As tough as the Indian court orders are, already their weaknesses are being probed. One of the key sites on the lists – Songs.pk – has already circumvented the blockade by resurfacing with the new URL of Songspk.pk since the blockade was incapable of physically taking the Czech-hosted site offline.

But although the Indian labels have taken the nuclear option in blocking huge numbers of sites, Apurv Nagpal, CEO of Saregama, one of India’s largest music labels says that they don’t want to destroy their opponents. Interestingly, Saregama acknowledges the pirate sites’ “passion for music” and says the industry wants to befriend them.

“We don’t want these sites to be shut down, we want them to pay a license fee and flourish as a business,” Saregama said. “There are legitimate businesses in operation too. The scope is there, and we want these sites to be legal.”

It would be a cold day in hell before Westerners heard the likes of Chris Dodd or Frances Moore make a statement as radical as that. But if the stick is to work long-term it has to be backed up with a sizable carrot, and if the pirate sites really do only want money, surely that’s their Achilles’ heel right there.

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  • Mohanrao Macharla

    Google DNS FTW

    • Johnsmith

      actually IP blocking makes changing dns’s useless
      i know im from ireland and eircom has blocked TPB

      • Jamesd

        Proxy, VPN, TOR, there are many options to bypass censorship.

        • Johnsmith

          yeap, eircom uses ip blocking but no packet inspection so even the most basic of proxies can bypass the block,
          i use tor most of the time, even though it’s overkill i still prefer it because it doesn’t mess up the layout or scripts of a page as much as other online proxies (fucking hidemyass sucks)

        • Indian

          We Indians are too poor to afford VPN :(

        • Dang

          Deep packet inspection is supposed to be illegal but the mofucking courts are asking ISPs to do just that? Wow.

        • Guest
      • Vasiok

        Erm.
        Then you shoul know that it is easy to bypass eircoms block

      • Ronan Brigdale

        I have eircom and i use super hide ip to get on the pirate bay but does this change my ip adress for downloading through utorrent? or is it just for browsing the internet

        • Anon

          no it wont change you ip when torrenting, not unless you set up utorrent to go through a proxy aswell

      • Chronoss2008

        DNS is the domain name, the ip associated to the DNS server shows where to go. IF you can change yoru dns ips then this game becomes whack a mole to , and gets extremely expensive on the Internet Service providers part trying to locate stuff.

        • Automaton

          They could run a simple script to auto-block based on the resolution itself.

        • Anonymous

          @Automaton

          They could. But what do you do when the resolution changes? TPB conveniently walks circles around resolution blocks by having umpteen resolutions resolving to TPB, and assuming some inconvenient bunch of bastards – say, MAFIAAFire – decide to maintain an alternative adress list as part of a standard plugin or set up a peered one…then you end up with that script itself having to rapidly grow into a fairly unmanageable complexity.

          Blocking in essence does not work on any level, as long as anyone wants to circumvent it. China has learned this lesson well, which is why their online community does whatever the hell they like.

          Moreover, every regulation step made by an ISP forces more complexity into the works, meaning higher latency and worse response times. When a VPN actually begins to restore internet functionality the majority of the population will start using it.

      • Anonymous

        …and for those thinking of using a DNS outside India, Deep Packet Inspection will step in to ensure the domains remain blocked…

        DPI is basically a thorough inspection of the customer’s data traffic. There is no way to guarantee this is merely restricted to observing the adress query. Just as if you tried to force a girl to strip, guaranteeing that you would only be looking at her toenails wouldn’t be very convincing.

        Hence what every Indian will now do is start relying on VPN and proxy services which – again – circumvents the ISP’s attempt to read, analyze, or identify either the traffic or the DNS requests made.

    • Guest

      MAFIAAFire

      You got this?

      • Hmm

        MAFIAAFire is dead!

  • Anonymous

    “We encourage the Indian film industry to reject as we have, the false argument that you cannot be pro-technology and pro-copyright at the same time,” he continued.

    …This guy is a fucking retard and an old dinosaur that belongs in a retirement home and not in front of the press, a computer or anything that was invented within the last 20 years.

    Guy is talking so much crap out of his arse he would get an oscar for it. Someone please fucking remove him from that pedestal he’s sitting on. Turdbag.

    • Caladol1

      “This guy is a fucking retard and an old dinosaur that belongs in a retirement home”

      I do not agree I think he knows hat he is doing.
      censorships is bad!! ( I see no need to argue this concept!)
      Chop of his head!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      These sons of bitches are not content with ripping you off, they want to hack your fuckin’ brain!

    • Anonymous

      he hasn’t quite grasped that technology and copyright have nothing in common.

      You can replace technology and copyright with anything in that sentence, because that’s about as much as he made with it.

      Example: “we encourage the Indian Film Industry to reject, as we have, the false argument that you cannot be pro-oranges and pro-apples at the same time”, he continued.

      This should be a meme. Let’s compare random things and requote this guy!

      • anonymous

        To enforce copyright law, you have to limit the technology that can distribute it. Say by distributing a blacklist of websites to your nations ISPs, or with DRM embedded, or banning the use of tor. It makes sense to me. By what mechanism do you intend to uphold copyright laws?

        Personally, I think that copyright and all forms of intellectual property are bullshit, but that’s another problem.

        • Andy P

          Or embrace it, and build systems around technology to more rapidly distribute said content, at a fair price to all. Wake up MPAA. People don’t want DVDs and Blue Rays – they want their digital media unlocked so that they can view it on all their devices. Your current model doesn’t allow for this and its why people are circumventing you. It’s been proven that a copy is not a lost sale, and that people will show up and pay for content that is worth watching. Unfortunately, most movies are absolute crap and there aren’t enough “legal” distribution groups to handle to demand. Wake up MPAA. And Chris Dodd needs to STFU and go away. What a POS.

        • Bnonymous

          It’s not total bullshit that someone wants to make a little money from something they created, but the laws, as you say are indeed outdated before they’re written. All this warring has changed nothing, nor will it ever, i don’t see any mention of the lower classes either. Now, when it comes to copying something and then selling it … i’m not getting into that discussion. I’ve never known the giants of the underground like TPB go like : hey, okay you can download this but you gotta pay up first, that would be completely against ‘the code’ … which is, if you really really like it and you can afford it, you should in fact support the artists … who cares about the labels, not like they create anything but misery these days

  • Johnsmith

    will unencrypted proxies get past DPI ?

    • Anonymous

      A web proxy like fetch4.me would route around the block. As to a common proxy then I would be doubtful.

      A VPN service is ideal to bypass DPI. Other methods are a lot harder and I am not fully sure if HTTPS would work.

      The most common bypass method would be for these blocked sites to switch to other domains.

      • Anonymous

        Https could work. It depends on whether the recipient is set up to redirect within the protocol or if you are contacting the end adress directly. I.e. https can emulate a VPN tunnel if set up to do so.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amy-Lane/100003606316960 Amy Lane

    People should support the creators of work, not steal the work and never pay.

    • Johnsmith

      true
      but any hardcore pirate/techy knows that blocking sites won’t do anything to prevent piracy

    • YourName

      its not theft retard, its infringement. no matter how many times you say it, it is still a lie, now GTFO

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amy-Lane/100003606316960 Amy Lane

        People need to make a living.

        • anon

          yes but these blocks will have no effect on the amount of money any artist is going to make
          any pirate who finds that his favorite torrent site has been blocked won’t decide to become an honest customer instead they’ll just see the ANTI-pirates as the bad guys, and given the way the ANTI pirates act people can’t be blamed for hating them

          also the real problem here is that this just encourages censorship and allows people who know nothing about how the internet works to control it

        • MadAsASnake

          Then they need a better pitch to their customers. The colllateral damage to these sort of actions is totally unacceptable.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ender-Wiggin/100000885624281 Ender Wiggin

          the creators seldom get that option. you want to support a band, you buy schwag from their site or go se a show.

        • Anyone

          these blocks take away money from the entertainment budget because it has to go to VPNs and other services.

          if anything measures like this decrease the money that goes to artists

          not to mention the court costs, that the MAFIAA surely will also take out of their artists’ pockets.

        • http://www.facebook.com/ValhallaLegend Andrew Lee

          lol Well you’re not helping craftsman tools when you loan them out either. In your mind set and definition of sharing you are stealing from them by doing it. Don’t be a hypocrite..
          Unless all forms of sharing are made illegal and I mean absolutely all forms from music to a number 2 pencil you people need to stfu.
          It’s just like saying heroin is illegal but you can go to a methadone clinic and get fucked up every single day for the rest of your life. You can just say it’s okay to make one thing illegal when the same thing in a diff wrapper is perfectly legal.
          Do you see what I mean? If not… well it’s not my fault you’re blinded by ignorance.

        • Anonymous

          You know…there are any number of examples where creators have managed to sell what was already given for free.

          Paulo Coelho, Trent Reznor, Radiohead…even Rebecca Black, for crying out loud.

          Here’s the point. For any artist to “sell” they first need recognition. Recognition comes from giving away their works so as many as possible can see and hear them. If an artist can reach millions then there will be sufficient people to pay.

          I’m almost thinking it would be a good idea for filesharing of music to stop altogether – indeed, a total ban on playing music not paid for first – and then see what happens to the music industry. See how you like it when the only venue to reach people will be the official gatekeepers who own you.

    • FinalApokylypse

      It’s important to note that not everyone who pirates doesn’t support the artists/creators. A lot do infact support the artists they love by going to concerts, buying merchandise and even buying physical media. In fact those who do pirate are often more likely to do just that.

      • Anonymous

        True, with one caveat. I keep a blacklist myself. Any artist who claims copying = Theft ends up on a boycott list.

        Which strangely enough leaves me with a markedly smaller list of artists who somehow turn out to be of a rather much higher quality. The real talents in the creative businesses already know since long ago that having more people know your name and music is the road to success.

    • Lolcatz

      We’ve been expecting you MAFIAA troll.

    • Legion

      How about creating a new business model, where free downloading is more “free advertisement” ? Out with the old in with the new. Everybody wins.

      You can try all you want, but you won’t win. You can’t find and block every website in the world you don’t like. You can’t force everybody to abide by your twisted laws and ideal. You can fight progress but you will lose.

      You can fight the common person, but we will prevail ! You will not destroy our internet !

      • Anonymous

        I believe the day is fast approaching where enough booty has been taken from the pirate ship and those on board may decide to retaliate with more then just a few key strokes and mouse clicks.

        • Anonymous

          Yes, like deleting/burning first prints of movies and the master records of music originating from the MAFIAA

      • Suqee

        Sorry- @Legion, need to flag that free advertisement or ‘exposure’ doesn’t pay bills for anything niche that can’t be easily co-opted for the mainstream.

        Us, here, now, have to fund any new wave with our own hard earned cash. We’re all broke, we know that, but there are more than enough of us to fund creativity creatively.

        Boycott the MAFIAA entirely – don’t listen to it, don’t watch it, don’t even share it.

        Instead… Start clicking “Donate” buttons, pay as much as you can for any self-released pay-what-you-like, give money films posted on VODO get on KickStarter and email the artists and if they aren’t doing it already, suggest that they release the finished project as DRM-Free Creative-Commons-Non-Commercial etc!

        Artists want to create, but if they’re working two jobs, they won’t be able to get time off to go on tour (for example).

        (This is where it gets interesting – Long live the future! Death to dinosaurs!)

        • Guest

          How exposure doesn’t pay the bills? It’s free advertising that will result in profit.

        • Suqee

          At what point does exposure turn into profit?

          When someone’s too stupid or computer-illiterate to find something for free? That’s a great message.

          Money is a flawed system, but we use it for everything else. Support the shit you like with the only real method society has given to you. Artists who put stuff out here for “free’ are gambling on your good nature – prove them right.

    • Kawli

      scuse me, do you hear the artists crying?? its the record companies, pay attention!!! commonly (unless youre a big superstar) the recording artists get pennies from each cd sold ffs. wake up and smell the coffee

    • Amdazzler

      When the industries get greedy, like they are right now, and charge too much for their products it tends to make people want to buy less. I’m not saying I support piracy, but some of these companies ask for far more than they should, and they’re not hurting as bad financially as they’d like us to think.

    • tonyj

      Most creators of the “Real Work” are long dead. What you have are copies and derivatives of Great Works. This is beyond stupidity, really. Because if it wasn’t for Piracy, most of these artist would never have become famous. It’s Piracy that creates the demand, creates word of mouth on the internet, motivates other people to listen on iTunes or whatever, because they are familiar with the name. Closing down Piracy will just close down the best form of Advertisement the Music Industry has ever known.

    • Anon

      I hope that you don’t honestly think that buying a Hollywood movie supports creators. It supports Hollywood and allows them to continue to rape, pillage, and dominate any talent that tried to make it big without them.

    • Anonymous

      Have you ever bought an Indian DVD? Their version of MPAA censors every single curse word, tittie pictures, scenes containing lovemaking kissing or otherwise inappropriate male/female action. Also violence and loads of other stuff are edited from EVERY RETAIL DVD/Bluray making almost any non-Bollywood film unwatchable. I spent loads of money on that shit which I now regret. Same goes for everything on TV. I don’t know about music because I didn’t dare buy any.

      I lived a year in southern India. Talking about censorship, corruption and general misdeeds, that place is like a poster country for that shit – one massive sewer. Can’t say I fell in love with the place, although I met a few individuals that were golden.

    • Anonymous

      First of all, making a copy is not “theft”. If you make a garden chair or bake cookies and I go home and make identical copies for my own use, then it is not theft.

      Anyone who claims it is deserves a total boycott – definitely not “support”.

      I have, in my life, bought perhaps four or five copies of just about every piece of music I own. Vinyl, Cassette, CD, etc. The remainder I have already had full legal access to via radio and legal streams. The second I download the complete collection in one go off TPB to use in my phone I’m according to you blistering fools a criminal.

      Go cry me a river. Then kindly take a flying leap into it. Along with your straw man argument devoid of common sense.

  • Darknet

    Tomorrow in the news: “Tor Project registers a huge spike in users from India!”

    • Fqvdekhs

      TOR should not be used for filesharing.
      It has a specific reason to exist and torrenting / filesharing will make it crawl.

      Use a motherfucking VPN and quit bitching about the decision from a retarded court.

      Or… wait for the blocked sites to resurface with a new domain. Some of them already did that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amy-Lane/100003606316960 Amy Lane

    A big problem with piracy I believe is the price. If creators released their content @ the right price, surely more people would buy their content, that my opinion.

    Kids today don’t have £30, £40 or £50 to pay for the latest console games, so instead of losing out, they pirate the titles then the creators lose out.

    • FinalApokylypse

      Well you’re not wrong that with some things (like music CD’s) they need to be at a more reasonable pricepoint for many to view them as viable products. Especially the younger people tend to not have a high enough income to buy the products aimed at them. But price is just one thing which should be changed (for some products not all).
      But many things are due to restrictions like DRM which can in some cases make the legit product less enticing. With movies, TV and music it can often be an accessibility issue with the content.

      • seanc

        Yes for me it is definitly accessibility. I actually pay money to pirate… If I could pay a monthly fee to download ALL the tv shows I want like I can from torrents/etc then I would… But when I go and look everything is restricted, or you need to go to 10 different places to get the content.. Or has some built in crazy DRM that prevents me from moving my media from one device to the other. Also, I prefer digital content rather that physical content that is going to get scratched and not work in a house with younger people.

    • Amdazzler

      I agree.. these industries charge far more than they should for their stuff these days. They’re the real criminals…

      • Anonymous

        What you are saying seems to be “they charge more than you can afford” and that because you cannot afford the materials that they are producing, they are the criminals.

    • Anonymous

      Its cheaper to buy games now than any other time in console history.

      The equivalent console game in 80′s and 90′s was (adjusted for inflation) between $40 and $120.

      • Amdazzler

        They’re not cheaper at the stores I’ve been to..

        • Anonymous

          what stores do you go to and what is the price of a newly released xbox/ps3 game ?

      • Amdazzler

        And I never once saw a game go for anywhere near a hundred bucks back then..

        • Anonymous

          the key part of what I wrote……….(adjusted for inflation)

    • Anonymous

      Case study…

      Rebecca black manufactures a video (in my arrogant opinion pure fail) and puts it on Youtube. Apparently it was a birthday gift from her family. 2000 dollars to manufacture.

      Say what you like about the video – and you can say plenty – it turned viral very quickly, mainly due to the fact that for a few weeks she earned the laurel “most hated” on the internet.

      Rebecca Black sold hundreds of thousands of copies of that almost globally hated video on iTunes, despite the fact that she was already giving that video away on Youtube for anyone to view or download.

      Hard currency for any artist is having as many people as possible know their name and their works. After that, money follows.

      In short. Creators can sell their work expensively, even if they’ve given it away for free. All that matters is whether the artist is sufficiently known, and that their works are easily available.

  • anonamom

    ISPs are court ordered by the MPAA to create a great firewall of India.. In other news, torrent hashes are now being distributed by email, IM and SMS, and tor darknets. all torrent traffic is now encrypted….
    Raise the bar fuckers, we’ll just jump higher.

    • Anon

      “Raise the bar fuckers, we’ll just jump higher.”

      ROFLMAO

      I didn’t know about Tor, I2P until the start of this year when MegaUpload got taken down.

      • DannyUfonek

        Me neither, I learned about TPB when there was stuff about it getting blocked. It’s just so obvious and simple: BLOCK = FREE ADVERTISING (Streisand effect)

  • Krosis

    track13.ws/proxy

    I set this up for personal use but if anyone has a need for it feel free.

  • Anonymous

    I hope they realise that by using DPI they would bring the already slow Internet service in India down to a crawl. You can imagine that one having to filter all Internet data in the country through the “great Indian firewall”.

    I don’t know why they did not just do DNS and IP blocks when that is adequate to stop most people without too much network drain. Nope they want DPI and to search almost every packet for not only the current 104 domains but thousands more in the future as rivals censor each other.

    Having Chris Dodd say they are not anti-technology is a joke. Maybe that technical expert will tell us all how much the Internet in India will soon slow down? It is bound to be an interesting social experiment on over 1 billion people.

    Yes I am quite sure now they are soon blocked they want to bring them under their wing and make money from them. All about stopping independent music supply and keeping their monopoly market. Beyond infringement we have yet to see how much collateral damage was done.

    What is interesting here is that music piracy is a decade old and so this is a case of closing the stable door after the horse has already bolted. Are they next going to ban bluetooth file transfers next when that is the most common method people share music between friends? Then let us not forget the PirateBox when you do not need Internet to be a piracy hub.

    Anyway censorship galore. I am sure this one does make Chris Dodd FLAP to climax.

    • msquabbles

      He’ll have a hard time facing his female colleagues and underlings for the next 2 weeks with that raging hard-on he’s got.

    • Anonymous

      “I hope they realise that by using DPI they would bring the already slow Internet service in India down to a crawl.”

      Yep and yep. Which is why in many cases a VPN works wonders. The DPI scripts have to be as fast as possible. Where there is no legible address conflict there is also no need to run the adress against the list.

  • Vivek Krishnan

    The problem with the Indian industry is that there was no way to buy music easily –> single tracks. Now with the advent of the flipkart online music store, that has become possible.

  • Anonymous

    It appears the Indian government is as corrupt and easily bought off as that in the US and UK…

    • http://www.facebook.com/killingfreak Raghav Bhandari

      Well more corrupt than us and uk

  • http://profiles.google.com/orfetheo Orfeas Theofanis

    I can think of movie piracy being stopped, but music? No.
    As long as there’s youtube and video to mp3 converters, how do you expect to stop us from downloading free music? Sue youtube? Block it?

  • Caladol1

    I can smell books burning, don’t you?

    Am I dreaming will this nighter end already!!!!

  • asdf

    Hollywood bought off Bollywood. That’s what happened.

  • Happyizpunjabi

    Long live russia proxy and VPN. (still need to find a bitcoin VPN hosted in swiss or Russia )

    • Guest

      What Russian VPN do you use?

  • MAFIAA On 9Gag.com

    Oh please not another piece of junk…to MAFIAA and its tard associates please troll harder so that more and more people will finally come up and fuck you in the head. You stupid asshole will realize one day that by creating such havoc will do your already useless industries no good.

  • sigh

    If you’re in India:

    1) Go to proxy.org
    2) Choose random proxy
    3) Put URL of blocked website
    4) …
    5) PROFIT!

    *sigh* They don’t understand, do they?

    Both DNS filtering AND blocking IPs is moot.

    • Tom

      What will you do when they decide to block the proxies and VPN address ranges that are receiving the highest outbound traffic?

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        They cannot legally do that in countries as of yet, Tom. I also do not think that any official would be willing to give them the power to do that either.

        • asdf

          Any official that isn’t coerced or bribed into doing so maybe.

      • MadAsASnake

        Great, solution to next problem is more collateral damage.

      • Lnlnwe

        Some vpn providers are hosted on “shared servers”. So if there is a block it would be unfair and affect other comapnies as well.

      • Fqvdekhs

        Blocked?

        And the reason would be…?

      • Qwerty

        Move to distributed proxy services.

      • har har

        If (and when) that ever happens, you’ll soon discover what we’ll do. Or not.

        Either way, you won’t stop piracy. Sorry.

      • har har

        Oh. And trust me, at least where I live, that’s not going to happen any time soon.

        After all, there’s not a single ISP here that blocks TPB. If they’re not blocking TPB, they’re certainly not blocking random proxies, just for the sake of it. They have better things to do.

        You do know that DPI is not free, right? (If you even know what DPI is…)

        • tetridae

          That’s right. Whatever they can do, we can make sure that they’ll have to spend more and more money doing it; slowly starving those conservative businesses to the point when they can’t go on doing these crazy things.

      • Anonymous

        Erm…you mean, in essence, they will be in one stroke cutting off Law Firms, Banks, government traffic, news services, journalists and the free press in general?

        To say nothing about every major international corporation which relies on VPN tunneling in order to synchronize the systems of one country with that of ten others in real-time?

        And, of course, EVERY legal online service offering pay-to-play traffic as that stream must be encrypted as well.

        What will we do? Invest heavily in canned food and shotguns is my spontaneous guess, because modern civilization along with every market will take an instant faceplant from 35000 feet up.

        Banning high-traffic VPN’s is going to bury every market in existence.

        That isn’t a guess, by the way – it’s fact. China resolved to maintain an internet where encryption and VPN’s are in heavy use – despite the fact that they’re willing to shoot and imprison people for dissenting with the government. They know even trying to touch the use of encryption will screw their economy.

        If we try it in the west, be prepared to learn Mandarin fast. They’ll be the only economy left.

  • Amar

    Indian Govt should concentrate on improving its telecommunication Infrastructure First!!

    We still live in archaic age with 512kbps of internet speed…wth can we download with such out of the world speeds!!

  • Telezarz

    Please, someone shoot Chris Dodd.

    • Anonymous

      It would not help any to shoot him when the MPAA would only hire another total bastard to do the job.

      A better plan is to point out the true fact that Chris Dodd really does not know how the Internet works. It then seems in the MPAA’s interest to replace him with someone who does understand what they are trying so hard to regulate.

      The failure of SOPA and PIPA only highlight that Chris Dodd has planned things wrong and they need to fire his ass.

      • Anyone

        that would require thought on their part

  • Inp

    content sharing. not theft!

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  • Jeff Bekcer

    namecoin

  • Anonymous

    wont be long now. the entertainment industries are gradually achieving everything they wanted and more. that means the greatest communication platform ever invented gone for good. it has been stated many times that whoever controls the internet basically controls the world. what a prospect we have for the future! just about everything everyone does will be dominated by people who live in worlds of make-believe! they will have the say on whether something can or cant be done for years to come! how the fuck can people be so gullible?

  • Guest

    I had no idea content theft was such a big problem. It does explain my so few good movies are released: most of them are stolen before they have the chance to release them. I agree that has to stop. Nobody should have the right to steal your work and, thus, deny you further access to it.

    Only thing I don’t understand is how you steal content with a website? Is it some sort of AI website that breaks into your home, like skynet?

    • DannyUfonek

      Can’t tell if bad trolling or just stupid.

      • Anyone

        it’s called irony or sarcasm

  • Observer

    Saregama CEO’s comments are indeed interesting and shows that there can be different approaches to this problem. The other interesting thing is Saregama offers a “Red Carpet” option for downloads+physical media orders that is very, very cheap – approx. $20 per year for 200 tracks plus 25% off on CD orders during the year. So if those guys can do it, why can’t the RIAA? Ten cents per track seems like a very reasonable price. Bring down the prices and piracy will disappear overnight. But tell this to the RIAA and the MPAA and they’ll put fingers in their ears and start yelling “LALALALALALALALALALALA”

  • http://twitter.com/happyizpunjai happy

    Stealing is illegal. Copying is legal. Distribution is legal. Therefore they are distributing copied movies not the real deal. Which copied material is just as good as the real thing. Movies company have to embrace cyberlocker method and sell there product use through there and file infringement for any other distributional material on any cyberlocker. Make money for uploading movies.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    The problem with site blocks is not how bulletproof the block is. Practically all site blocks can be evaded.

    Where it is effective is in killing off the smaller sites often killing innovation at birth because you can guarentee that at some point they will try and delist sites from search engines. You need to know a site exists before you get around the block. The reduction of traffic to smaller sites could see them go to the wall.

    That said, where Bollywood is shooting themselves in the foot is that their media industry is just a massive sausage factory where 99% of the output is formulaic/derrivative and indistinguishable from the rest of the pulp they produce. These sites do at least draw attention to certain artists/films. The few sites I checked appear to mainly contain legit free and promo material.

    Most importantly, while these sites may be blocked within India and affect their viability, what the rights holders miss is the massive Indian expat market that the industry would lose entirely if not for these sites. That said, it will probably be the huge expat market that will ensure the sites’ long term viability.

  • Anonymous

    basically, none of the entertainment industries want to give a service that is anywhere near as good as what is offered on so-called ‘illegal’ sites. they also dont want those sites to earn any money (most dont!). so, what that amounts to is:-
    wah, wah, please mr government, do whatever it takes to keep our inferior offerings alive
    stop all the services that are better than ours
    stop everyone from using those better services
    stop everyone from earning from those better services
    stop details about our crap services and the much better illegal ones from spreading
    give us total control of the most important platform on the planet. we promise we wont abuse it, ever!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know about everybody else, but I’m getting pretty sick of the MAFIAA copyright holders bossing everybody else around like they run the world. The fact is, we are not at their mercy — they are at ours. If the international community would simply agree to start a SERIOUS BOYCOTT of films and music, so that those industries are brought to their knees, we’d see a change in their high and mighty attitudes. I realize that we theoretically have a boycott in action right now — Black March. But I have my doubts that it will be effective for the simple reasons that, first, at least here in the US, the boycott wasn’t publicized well, so not many people knew about it. And second, the Americans are generally too spoiled to boycott anything that they can easily buy with all their money. But a serious boycott would work if enough people would just organize — like the Occupy movement, which went global. Will somebody who has enough connections please do something about this?

    • Alancx

      Well, the rest of the planet is getting pretty sick of the USA in general bossing everybody else around like they run the world. This internet BS is only a small part of it. Funny part of it all is the the USA some how thinks its some sort of beacon for freedom and liberty. It would be funny if it wasn’t so disturbingly ironic.

      • Amdazzler

        It’s only our government that wants to boss others around, not the common people.

  • Anonymous

    lol, like anyone really cares what those kangaroo courts demand lol.
    Anon-World.tk

  • Bombs for stupid people

    all of you jusk speaking in wind and dont doing something with that fact , is useless

    want to do someting usefull – go on streets , take your rights back, claim your decent life and freedom , stop to work for few coins stop to be a slave of corrupt systems , involve into politics and be active if you really want to change something (see Pirate Party in Sweden ) we all can change laws,rules and fuking systems , we can down fat retard and corrupt leadears we can do something with our lifes , but for that we must stop to speak and start to act !

    Is unbelivebeale to see people cant change nothing in country like India , for god sake .. indian people you are a lot to cahnge everything if you really want , you have huge masses people 1.21 billion people !!!!! wow imagine if just few hundread millions go on the streets whats happen , to do real changes just go on streets and fight for your rights , dont afraid to death , even you are poor you have power , they cant kill you all , finally you people will win and then your kids will live into a good society , look in history – nobody win when fight with large masses of people -all systems all dicators all are gone (see Hitler ,Stalin and so on – yes they kill milions people but finally people kill them )
    Freedom , real democracy is not guaranteed once you got it , you all fight to keep it these essential rights , freedom have a price , depend of you all if you are ready to pay this price
    what kind of life it is without real freedom ?

    • Wh1stl3

      I want to ask you, tell me about ur freedom, Mr Slave

      • Bombs for stupid people

        im free and i feel free more then you dude , im freelancer , im not part of system and this dirty “civilizated” society and i make my money in decent and constructive way , im not greed , i dont need to have lot of material things to survive and be happy , to help other good people if i can, i travel around the world and yeah i m not slave like many others , i fight for my rights and if in one day someone want to take my rights and freedom , im ready to die , im ready to kill stupid greedy people to keep my rights and freedom , without real freedom life is a pain and useless
        If you wanna be free stop be a robot and start to think about your life , what is your reason to live , for what for be a slave of greedy system , for getting more money , more material things ? what you will do with all of that , all material things will stay here and proprety is just an ilusion , you just use temporary these things , depending how you think , many live just for eat not eat , like animals …

    • Alancx

      Thats the real problem, people just sit at their keyboards and take it. Rarely getting off their corporate fattened arses to do anything.

    • Everyoneisstupid

      You seem young and idealistic. I think you still have a lot to learn (prepare to be disappointed).

      • Bombs for stupid people

        Im not idelistic and im not young maybe you feel more old then you are in fact , i will never learn to be submisive , obedient , and a slave of others , im not disappointed and i will not be becouse i dont expect something good from some other humans , in my opinion many dont deserve to live becouse they are so stupid or malicious – in nature that kind of types is just food for other animals – in a usual way nature fix these mutations , humans learn to trick and pass , but guess what – nature revenge and return against humans , nature transform humans in the biggest and most dongerous enemy of humans – thats say all about us as a species
        Anyway if you all want to have rights then you must to fight and defend , you must be ready to make sarcifices to keep these rights available , if you think others will do that instead of you then you wrong

  • Guest

    I’d like to meddle with the first quote of this article by substituting one word and changing its location to illustrated the true intitions of the MPAA “Digital Content is a global problem and we must have a global commitment to solving it. This is an important opportunity for the Indian government to move forward with strong protections against online theft,”

    • Anonymous

      One thing I have come to realise is that their “theft” claims are false and not for the usual direct reason.

      The copying of file-sharing is simply not well defined under theft where a much better comparison are people trying to defraud them out of the due payment. So it is fraud and not theft that is the real comparison.

      The interesting part then is the law splits this fraud into two where the fraud word only remains for when the person made money from other people’s media. So when no money is involved it is correctly called infringement.

      So a better way to prove those people wrong is to reply “No it is fraud and not theft” and then to point out the infringement part.

      • Username

        They don’t care about that. You know the word’s used as a tool to manipulate, and it works, which is why they like saying it so much. F.A.C.T.s are irrelevant.

        • Anonymous

          Many people are fooled by their propaganda and some try to justify the theft notion but not everyone would do so blindly. It is easy to prove them wrong when they don’t lose the media but the payment for it correctly called infringement.

          Once that has been established then we can add in the second aspect that a download does not equal a lost sale. After all if people like it they can still buy it and to tell their friends which add sales. Should a charge be on the download then many less people will see it removing extra sales so a loss.

          Like Avatar this shows that files sharing can be a good gain for good media but bad media would do worse. And yes not everyone would listen.

  • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

    lol that’s 104 more sites to check out lmao. thanks stupid government and dodd you boneheaded idiots.

  • foff

    Wonder how much that judge in that corrupt as hell country was paid. Do the content industry in a country that is poor as hell think site blocking will really increase their bottom line. I wonder what they are sniffing.

    • Wh1stl3

      You may be from such a country that is really poor and live like parasite. IDIOT

  • Luckyd2039

    Chris Dodd (D) was one of the most corrupt Senators in the history of the US. He is greatly responsible for the mess we are in now, and he gets to walk away scot-free.

    The fact that the MPAA hired this criminal is all the need to know about the MPAA.

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  • Wh1stl3

    These laws will kill their own business, as people will only go for best products. So, what about others? Piracy many times helps to sell crap movies & music. But with restrictions only creative ones will sell and for for rest DOOMS Days ahead.

    • Alancx

      This is a key point. Many “pirates” still buy other products. But we all have limited amounts of money. So, we all make decisions. This is why all this is a complete lie, these media companies actually lose nothing what so ever. In the end we all spend what we have, there is no more. I suspect that if suddenly all piracy was stopped dead, many of there companies would instantly go bust, having stocks they can no longer sell. People who are buying music while buying games might buy less games to buy the music.

      Frankly, this whole thing is a stupid fraud that could wipe its self out.

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  • Gear Mentation

    Do we really need torrent sites? I thought there is technology that does not require a website to index torrents. If so, is spam manageable in such a system? I would bet that the Indians will now pioneer the technology to make torrents anonymous.

  • Freshegg19

    People,there is no need to panic.
    It was just a court order and if you actually know the state of affairs in India,the success of implementation of anything as mentioned in the article tends to zero.
    The courts in India are presided by idiotic judjes who don’t know jackshit about cyber law,doubt if any of them even actually heard of it.
    If any of the ISP’s appeal in a higher court,and the higher court sets a date to review the decision,it is going to take months to reach a verdict.
    most of the sites blocked are indian and there are tons of uploading sites like rapidshare,mediafire to upload lastest music and whose links can be searched through filestube etc.

  • Freshegg19

    As for the indian politicians,If anyone tries to implement such laws,they stand to face real music from their voters.
    Bush just got a shoe,we give our politicians eggs,tomatoes,hell even manhandling isn’t left out of the table and the most important thing is they don’t have the balls to pass laws like PIPA and SOPA.

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  • Anonymous

    like other posters, i am 100% positive that the figures and info put out by the entertainment industries are nothing but absolute lies. hell, they have been debunked countless times. my question is therefore, why do almost all politicians, in just about every form of government in just about every country in the world, believe what those industries say, ignoring what everyone else reports? as the same thing is happening world-wide, it has to be more than just money being paid in bribes etc. so, please tell me what can be so important that every country thinks that the entertainment industries are the most important thing on the planet; so important that everyone deserves to lose their freedoms for and lose the right of innocence unless proven guilty!

    • ManyReasons

      business, employment, innovation, economy, profit, wealth, power, status, ……

      • Anontmous

        ‘business, employment, innovation, economy, profit, wealth, power, status’

        none of these reasons can justify every country in the world introducing new laws to shore up these industries and degrade their own citizens, preferring to destroy the freedoms that have been fought for and took decades to achieve.
        the car industry, the oil industry, the travel industry are just 3 that employ far more people and losing them would have a much greater adverse affect. losing the movie industry would, i think, mean very little. it is not an essential service but is being treated as if the world cannot live without it. i mean, really?

        • ManyReasons

          They can justify it, because those things all relate to the ability to survive. Those things have become necessary for our survival. It’s the system we created. Sacrificing freedoms is part of the price people are willing to pay for the promise of a better life. The alternative, to increase freedoms, runs counter to the idea of a carefully controlled system, threatening the mechanisms of society that people have come to rely on to survive. Ultimate freedom = Anarchic system. Few people want that, because few could survive by it, so they fight to maintain the system instead.

          “Losing the movie industry would…” mean little to you personally. I’m not so sure those that do that to survive feel the same way…

          What do you think justifies it?

      • Amdazzler

        As they say, power corrupts, and today’s big industries reflect this.

    • Anonymous

      The answer lies in “common interests” I think.
      - Copyright industries want more control to monopolize copyrights (from creation to distribution).
      - Politicians want more control to monopolize opinion trends.
      The purpose is different, but the means is the same: more control over information, more control over Internet.

      A free Internet means free culture sharing and creation; a free Internet means more information over what our politicians do. (see ACTA, Wikileaks, etc.); a free Internet allows anybody to speak on a very public channel where this was once reserved to “public figures”…

      In short, both copyright industries and politicians don’t like Internet.

  • Anonymous

    “We encourage the Indian film industry to reject as we have, the false argument that you cannot be pro-technology and pro-copyright at the same time”
    They “might” have rejected the argument, but they don’t illustrate this “rejection”. They are so clearly anti-technology that it’s nearly a caricature.

  • Gae

    “Content theft is a global problem and we must have a global commitment to solving it. This is an important opportunity for the Indian government to move forward with strong protections against online theft,”

    Nice statement there, considering nobody has stolen any content off anybody, online or offline. Interestingly, if somebody did steal something from you then there are already laws in place to deal with it and you should report the robbery to the police.

  • Anonymous

    Chris Doss is such a big sh*t spewing imbecile, hes trying to destroy the internet and protect his big wages any way he can. He tried to block websites in his own country, then when people speak out, he goes to other places and takes advantage of their bribery based courts to get his way. This dangerous man and his organization should be barred from ever using or touching any electronic devices.

    • Moneyftw

      What he’s doing is getting paid a lot of money.

  • Mh

    I wonder when the MPAA will be asking the ISPs to block the entire Internet.

  • Dishum

    In India, regional language movie DVDs are available for right price, around 2 dollars. Piracy is not exactly necessary, but Indian constitution is weak in protecting the rights of the people. The constitution is written is such a way that the fundamental rights can be denied by government executive orders without even parliamentary approval. The courts are even worse in defending the rights. The IT act was passed in parliament without even discussion, that is the quality of parliamentarians. THe UID project which is a project to curtail civil liberties is being executed by just an executive order. that is why emergency was declared in India subverting the fundamental rights. India prides itself a great democracy, but the people here does not understand democracy. They have failed to use democracy as means to protect their rights.

  • OR

    “We don’t want these sites to be shut down, we want them to pay a license fee and flourish as a business,” Saregama said.

    At least Saregama has realized these music sites are primarily responsible for making their music popular. So, Saregama is thinking in right path.

    On the other hand, there are companies like T Series, run by dumb mafia, and they will make all effort to kill these music sites.

  • Chronoss2008

    USA gone
    Mexico Gone
    France Gone
    UK gone
    India Gone
    Canada about to go.
    Every nation on earth every person should cut the net out for the summer and put out of business as many of them as possible.
    and the cash you’d spend on net DO NOT spend in local economies or on anything save it up put it away and PUNISH THE ECONOMY.

    WILL be funny when they start seeing less revenues and start whining they need 200 year terms on copyrights….

    • JoseC42

      It’s our money we can use to protest with exactly on point my thinking is the MPAA, RIAA has been taken folks to court they will never get a dime off me now screw em more money for me greedy idiots they are I was tempted to buy blank media even lol I said nope they made their bed they should suffer I’ll support independent artist not this big MAFFIA Cartel and I did buy movies and music in the past but for 3 and half years that has changed when I’ve read alot of articles on what the MAFFIA Cartel has done to individual families not to mention college students like myself that pay big money to goto school.

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  • Aksathish

    Bollywood doesn’t really benefit from blocking these sites. people who download songs free of cost from these sites never going to buy it eventually.In this neck to neck competition and strikingly similar tune of songs in the movies, songs are just a way of advertisement like in Hollywood movies.

  • Universal Soldier

    None of these sites are blocked for me. I use a Tata connection. Anyways MAFIAAFIRE plugin is there in case of a blockade.
    MPAA and RIAA, please fuck off from India. Nothing is gonna change here. Nobody buys your shit here. We will always find alternate methods. Also one fact is that here one person downloads and shares it offline through pen drives and cd’s with 10 others. So even if some people do not know how to circumvent these blockades, there are others who are willing to help them.

  • PaRaDoX

    For those who havent been to India,let me tell u that almost every street has a road side vendor selling CDs and DVDs containing pirated music of the latest movies and albums.u get almost 30 albums at the cost of half a dollar.and they have been doing that for years and years.even in the event of every website being put out of business(though that cannot happen),Indians will still keep pirating but wont buy the original CDs.i dont know of a single person who buys original music here.

    • Pirate4Life

      It’s like that here in NYC lol.

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    I just got a list of sites that have music thanks :) sweet post.

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  • Anonymous

    I lived a year in southern India. Talking about censorship, corruption and general misdeeds, that place is like a poster country for that shit – one massive sewer. Can’t say I fell in love with the place, although I me a few individuals that were golden

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  • Dasda

    hunger, poverty, corruption, not even fucking continuous water supply, 100s of mosquitoes.
    That is what is India.

    I think the gov. is stupid to invest tax payers money on crap like this.
    And looking at recent budget, unnecessary censorship of TV and crap like this…India is looking to be a communist country.

  • Ramesh Chakrapani

    What a waste of time. These sites will be up in no time on a different domain. Like Songs.pk resurfaced as Songspk.pk.

    Who cares about music piracy, anyway? I don’t think the Indian film industry is too concerned about music piracy. Not much money in there.

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