EMI Stays With IFPI On Condition it Pays Less to Chase Pirates

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After originally threatening to leave, London-based EMI Records has confirmed it will remain a member of the IFPI. With its self-imposed deadline of March 31st 2008 looming, the company has struck a deal so that EMI – together with other members – will now contribute less to anti-piracy activities.

In December 2007, in an effort to pacify its new owners by cutting costs, London-based record label EMI offered its resignation to the IFPI, saying it would leave the organization over “the future structure and funding of the IFPI and the national industry bodies.” Comments made by EMI chairman Guy Hands suggested that IFPI membership cost his company, and others, in excess of $250m per year.

EMI offered a deadline – either the IFPI reduced the costs associated with membership by 31st March 2008 – or EMI would leave. Now, after a few months of negotiations, it seems some sort of deal has been struck enabling EMI to stay as a member.

An IFPI spokesman said the organisation had been able to a agree a “sensible, appropriate and reasonable reduction in our budget.”

It won’t be just EMI that gets reduced rates either. The other major members – Universal, Sony and Warner will all benefit, says Jean-Francois Cecillon, president of EMI International:

“We undertook to work with our colleagues in the other major labels and with (IFPI boss) John Kennedy on a cost saving plan for the IFPI. Together we have been able to find solutions which we believe are achievable whilst maintaining what the IFPI does best in representing our industry.”

Separately, the IFPI just announced it has successfully shutdown a Direct Connect hub in Chile, specializing in metal. If they feel that this type of action is the most effective way of spending EMI’s money, no surprise they wanted to leave.

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1st post :D

well this is nice news
Anonymous

lol wow…
imagiine the IFPI over shutting down the hub

IFPI: Ooh yay we shut down a hub in Chile…OMFG 10 new ones just popped up.
A Kumo Dumo?

wow, $250 million for all the ifpi members, what are they…the mafia. IFPI blames pirates for the choas on the net, but it is really them causing the choas with their terrorist/mafia tactics.
cc

$250m per year ? no wonder label always claim profit loss because of piracy.
Gabre

I agree to that – it just seems like IFPI is greedy if they get $250 million from the record lables and then try to sue people for even more money… It’s not the torrentsite hosts there is making money off piracy, but IFPI…
MAg

Dinosaur labels… imagine how many CDs 250 mil equals… they should keep that money towards their profits considering how bad cd sales are…
Anonymous

*spittake*

$250 million dollar annual membership fee!?

…And the IFPI has the audacity to brand OTHER PEOPLE as crooks. Their battle against filesharing is driven by nothing more than pure, miserable avarice.

I’d love to hear those slimeballs attempt to explain the morality of attacking people under the premise of “monetary damages” for freely sharing music, all the while their gilded coffers overflow with the money they gouge from record labels, who in turn rob their own artists.

What a sorry bunch of parasites.

Speaking of parasites… The IFPI did one shit-poor job of shutting down Metal Hub. I’m having some trouble reconciling this:

http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_news/20080310.html

with this:
http://www.metalhubs.com/
very

thx for this post, enigmax.

i don’t understand why these people never realise we youth cannot afford their costly CDs and that’s why we use torrents and P2P. Also, why do they still want us to buy CDs??? The funny thing is that the actual buyers of CDs have to read stuff like “Reproduction in anyform is prohibited”, though they paid for it!!!!:)
very

I recently read in “the economist” that the children of the music records’ bosses also use torrents to download songs. Surprisingly, no cases have been filed against them!!!!
B

I love how the first posters’ always include the fact that they were the first, and they always try to add in a useful comment that ends up making them look like an ass.
Anonymous

[quote comment="308522"]I love how the first posters’ always include the fact that they were the first, and they always try to add in a useful comment that ends up making them look like an ass.[/quote]

As opposed to 10th posters, who don’t even try to avoid looking like an ass?
Mr.Afghanistan

$250m, WTF WTF WTF – OMFG ! ! !

EMI is crazy, bunch of donkeys :)

I am very sure IFPI is not doing something special, so in return EMI get benefit above $250m per year.

EMI should really think about this matter, they are wasting $ for nothing.

IFPI closed a fuckin direct Hub & making EMI happy, LoL

Opening a new Direct Hub cost only 120$ & 15 minute configuration. LoL

Either EMI is crazy or IFPI is much cleverer then EMI :) that’s why they are making free $ by closing a 120$ HUB in a year and making 250m$ LoL

I am thinking of opening a New anti-piracy for myself, it’s the easiest way to be millionaire using jackass record companies :)))) LoL

Good Luck EMI and think + Rethink :)))
Rycon

Nice to know how well funded they are..

and im sure it will be nice for them to know im just going to download more.

Please stop whining record companies.. nobody believes you.. and nobody cares.. im going to download untill you go out of biz.. and then im going to laugh.

The IFPI is like an ant trying to stop a tidal wave.
Putin 08

[quote comment="308468"]I agree to that – it just seems like IFPI is greedy if they get $250 million from the record lables and then try to sue people for even more money… It’s not the torrentsite hosts there is making money off piracy, but IFPI…[/quote]

Ladies, Gentlemen, Equals, More than Equal Party Elites, Polar Bears, and all other victims of Bush’s eco-terrorist global warming policies, here we have indisputable proof that Dear Leader Kim Jong Il’s guide to fascism, public education and eradication of free thought is working as advertised by the wonderful humanitarians of the motherland (soon to be gender-neutral-land, hillary be praised).

How else could a target of EMI subjugation, coercion, and we’ll just assume genocide, have been so steadfast and unyielding in his defense of party elites, despite, at the very least, the suspicion of a possible existence of another, non-party approved truth (Lenin forbid!).

Warning: Comrades proceeding past this point may* be guilty of forming opinions. Report immediately to the commissar of thought if you experience any symptoms of increased neural activity, feel lightheaded or are otherwise confused by mental stimulation.

“Having emailed around 12 torrent site owners, only 4 of them were ready to spill the beans. One very large torrent site with over 500.000 visitors per day told us that they are generating around 30-40K per month and a double of that amount during the last two months of the year. Another torrent site with more then 300.000 visitors told us that they were making 50K per month on average. The other two torrent sites were generating a revenue of 35-60K respectively.”
http://blog.cashlance.com/node/12

Your comrade,

Putin 08

*All comrades are assumed guilty until their public show trial where they will be officially found guilty.
Norm

This is a sign that the anti-pirates are losing the war on file-sharing. It wont be long before some of the labels go out of business.
Anonymous

[quote comment="308576"][quote comment="308468"]I agree to that – it just seems like IFPI is greedy if they get $250 million from the record lables and then try to sue people for even more money… It’s not the torrentsite hosts there is making money off piracy, but IFPI…[/quote]

Ladies, Gentlemen, Equals, More than Equal Party Elites, Polar Bears, and all other victims of Bush’s eco-terrorist global warming policies, here we have indisputable proof that Dear Leader Kim Jong Il’s guide to fascism, public education and eradication of free thought is working as advertised by the wonderful humanitarians of the motherland (soon to be gender-neutral-land, hillary be praised).

How else could a target of EMI subjugation, coercion, and we’ll just assume genocide, have been so steadfast and unyielding in his defense of party elites, despite, at the very least, the suspicion of a possible existence of another, non-party approved truth (Lenin forbid!).

Warning: Comrades proceeding past this point may* be guilty of forming opinions. Report immediately to the commissar of thought if you experience any symptoms of increased neural activity, feel lightheaded or are otherwise confused by mental stimulation.

“Having emailed around 12 torrent site owners, only 4 of them were ready to spill the beans. One very large torrent site with over 500.000 visitors per day told us that they are generating around 30-40K per month and a double of that amount during the last two months of the year. Another torrent site with more then 300.000 visitors told us that they were making 50K per month on average. The other two torrent sites were generating a revenue of 35-60K respectively.”
http://blog.cashlance.com/node/12

Your comrade,

Putin 08

*All comrades are assumed guilty until their public show trial where they will be officially found guilty.[/quote]

Oh, shut up.
Mr.Afghanistan

[quote comment="308576"][quote comment="308468"]I agree to that – it just seems like IFPI is greedy if they get $250 million from the record lables and then try to sue people for even more money… It’s not the torrentsite hosts there is making money off piracy, but IFPI…[/quote]

Ladies, Gentlemen, Equals, More than Equal Party Elites, Polar Bears, and all other victims of Bush’s eco-terrorist global warming policies, here we have indisputable proof that Dear Leader Kim Jong Il’s guide to fascism, public education and eradication of free thought is working as advertised by the wonderful humanitarians of the motherland (soon to be gender-neutral-land, hillary be praised).

How else could a target of EMI subjugation, coercion, and we’ll just assume genocide, have been so steadfast and unyielding in his defense of party elites, despite, at the very least, the suspicion of a possible existence of another, non-party approved truth (Lenin forbid!).

Warning: Comrades proceeding past this point may* be guilty of forming opinions. Report immediately to the commissar of thought if you experience any symptoms of increased neural activity, feel lightheaded or are otherwise confused by mental stimulation.

“Having emailed around 12 torrent site owners, only 4 of them were ready to spill the beans. One very large torrent site with over 500.000 visitors per day told us that they are generating around 30-40K per month and a double of that amount during the last two months of the year. Another torrent site with more then 300.000 visitors told us that they were making 50K per month on average. The other two torrent sites were generating a revenue of 35-60K respectively.”
http://blog.cashlance.com/node/12

Your comrade,

Putin 08

*All comrades are assumed guilty until their public show trial where they will be officially found guilty.[/quote]
Shut the FUCK UP Loser :)
Putin 08

[quote comment="308622"]Shut the FUCK UP Loser :)[/quote]

Yes, yes, thats it comrade. Disregard this right wing hate speech of ‘double standards’ and ‘hypocrisy’ – thats what the nazi capitalists want you to believe. Masses, I urge you all to not subscribe to this nazi IFPI propaganda – that there are those among us who profit from pirated media.

With that prodigious display of love, did you expect to keep your identity a secret? Thank you for giving us your blessing Comrade Pope Benedict XVI.
annoyance

IFPI – the real pirate
James

Hey EMI, I’ll do it for half the price. Please let me know so we can negotiate a price.
James

[quote comment="308576"][quote comment="308468"]I agree to that – it just seems like IFPI is greedy if they get $250 million from the record lables and then try to sue people for even more money… It’s not the torrentsite hosts there is making money off piracy, but IFPI…[/quote]

Ladies, Gentlemen, Equals, More than Equal Party Elites, Polar Bears, and all other victims of Bush’s eco-terrorist global warming policies, here we have indisputable proof that Dear Leader Kim Jong Il’s guide to fascism, public education and eradication of free thought is working as advertised by the wonderful humanitarians of the motherland (soon to be gender-neutral-land, hillary be praised).

How else could a target of EMI subjugation, coercion, and we’ll just assume genocide, have been so steadfast and unyielding in his defense of party elites, despite, at the very least, the suspicion of a possible existence of another, non-party approved truth (Lenin forbid!).

Warning: Comrades proceeding past this point may* be guilty of forming opinions. Report immediately to the commissar of thought if you experience any symptoms of increased neural activity, feel lightheaded or are otherwise confused by mental stimulation.

“Having emailed around 12 torrent site owners, only 4 of them were ready to spill the beans. One very large torrent site with over 500.000 visitors per day told us that they are generating around 30-40K per month and a double of that amount during the last two months of the year. Another torrent site with more then 300.000 visitors told us that they were making 50K per month on average. The other two torrent sites were generating a revenue of 35-60K respectively.”
http://blog.cashlance.com/node/12

Your comrade,

Putin 08

*All comrades are assumed guilty until their public show trial where they will be officially found guilty.[/quote]

Yeah right.

How about some figures from the IFPI please. Let’s put this into perspective shall we.
Putin 08

[quote comment="308668"]Yeah right.

How about some figures from the IFPI please. Let’s put this into perspective shall we.[/quote]

Well comrade, there are no solid numbers with which we may compare. Party elites and website owners are too smart for that. Watch as these people’s leaders masterfully protect their rations from imperialist infidels.

(Interview with TPB)
CS asks: How much money do the Pirate Bay make per month from ads, and what happens to that money?
Peter: I don’t know exactly how much money we get.

Economicon asks: How much profit did the Pirate Bay make in 2006?
Peter: That is a good question. I have no idea.

CS asks: Why won’t you answer questions about your profits?
Peter: It feels like a cheap way to make us look like hipocrits.

CS asks: How much does your most expensive ad-package cost?
Peter: I have no idea.

CS asks: Who are running your finances?
Peter: An external company called Random Media who are based on the British Virgin Islands.

CS asks: Who is behind that company?
Peter: I don’t think we want to go there.

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:Ionq9k-6WNAJ:www.googlethedamnthing.com/mirror/Pirate_Bay_Hot_Seat/+how+much+does+torrentfreak+make&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us

Your comrade,

Putin 08
Putin 08

disregard that. I suck cocks
BlanK

[quote comment="308576"][quote comment="308468"]I agree to that – it just seems like IFPI is greedy if they get $250 million from the record lables and then try to sue people for even more money… It’s not the torrentsite hosts there is making money off piracy, but IFPI…[/quote]

Ladies, Gentlemen, Equals, More than Equal Party Elites, Polar Bears, and all other victims of Bush’s eco-terrorist global warming policies, here we have indisputable proof that Dear Leader Kim Jong Il’s guide to fascism, public education and eradication of free thought is working as advertised by the wonderful humanitarians of the motherland (soon to be gender-neutral-land, hillary be praised).

How else could a target of EMI subjugation, coercion, and we’ll just assume genocide, have been so steadfast and unyielding in his defense of party elites, despite, at the very least, the suspicion of a possible existence of another, non-party approved truth (Lenin forbid!).

Warning: Comrades proceeding past this point may* be guilty of forming opinions. Report immediately to the commissar of thought if you experience any symptoms of increased neural activity, feel lightheaded or are otherwise confused by mental stimulation.

“Having emailed around 12 torrent site owners, only 4 of them were ready to spill the beans. One very large torrent site with over 500.000 visitors per day told us that they are generating around 30-40K per month and a double of that amount during the last two months of the year. Another torrent site with more then 300.000 visitors told us that they were making 50K per month on average. The other two torrent sites were generating a revenue of 35-60K respectively.”
http://blog.cashlance.com/node/12

Your comrade,

Putin 08

*All comrades are assumed guilty until their public show trial where they will be officially found guilty.[/quote]

Okay, so maybe a few people are making some money for taking their whole life and putting it on hold to run a site well are making a little money. At least they’re not making $250m per company with them for taking a year to shut down one thing that will be up within months. I don’t think they should be making money for running a torrent site but at least they’re doing something for their money unlike IFPI.
h33t

[quote comment="308716"][quote comment="308668"]Yeah right.

How about some figures from the IFPI please. Let’s put this into perspective shall we.[/quote]

Well comrade, there are no solid numbers with which we may compare. Party elites and website owners are too smart for that. Watch as these people’s leaders masterfully protect their rations from imperialist infidels.

(Interview with TPB)
CS asks: How much money do the Pirate Bay make per month from ads, and what happens to that money?
Peter: I don’t know exactly how much money we get.

Economicon asks: How much profit did the Pirate Bay make in 2006?
Peter: That is a good question. I have no idea.

CS asks: Why won’t you answer questions about your profits?
Peter: It feels like a cheap way to make us look like hipocrits.

CS asks: How much does your most expensive ad-package cost?
Peter: I have no idea.

CS asks: Who are running your finances?
Peter: An external company called Random Media who are based on the British Virgin Islands.

CS asks: Who is behind that company?
Peter: I don’t think we want to go there.

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:Ionq9k-6WNAJ:www.googlethedamnthing.com/mirror/Pirate_Bay_Hot_Seat/+how+much+does+torrentfreak+make&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us

Your comrade,

Putin 08[/quote]

i agree with you, start to bloody finish

consider the majority of torrent site owners are not wealthy and their families live with the financial sacrifice involved when the major bread winner spends all his time on the net and paying for servers and code and not turning up for work …

consider $30,000/month and what you could buy …

then look at TPB and see they dont spend shit on their systems or development or furthering the cause

too much cocaine
h33t

on topic :D

but when a dinosaur wakes up because the shareholders have kicked out the incumbent MAFIAA then we know it is all over

filesharing, not piracy you scum, is gonna bloom all over this beautiful world
Putin 08

@22

1) Disregarded.
2) We know.

Thank you for your contribution.

Your comrade,

Putin 08
Norm

[quote comment="308576"][quote comment="308468"]I agree to that – it just seems like IFPI is greedy if they get $250 million from the record lables and then try to sue people for even more money… It’s not the torrentsite hosts there is making money off piracy, but IFPI…[/quote]

Ladies, Gentlemen, Equals, More than Equal Party Elites, Polar Bears, and all other victims of Bush’s eco-terrorist global warming policies, here we have indisputable proof that Dear Leader Kim Jong Il’s guide to fascism, public education and eradication of free thought is working as advertised by the wonderful humanitarians of the motherland (soon to be gender-neutral-land, hillary be praised).

How else could a target of EMI subjugation, coercion, and we’ll just assume genocide, have been so steadfast and unyielding in his defense of party elites, despite, at the very least, the suspicion of a possible existence of another, non-party approved truth (Lenin forbid!).

Warning: Comrades proceeding past this point may* be guilty of forming opinions. Report immediately to the commissar of thought if you experience any symptoms of increased neural activity, feel lightheaded or are otherwise confused by mental stimulation.

“Having emailed around 12 torrent site owners, only 4 of them were ready to spill the beans. One very large torrent site with over 500.000 visitors per day told us that they are generating around 30-40K per month and a double of that amount during the last two months of the year. Another torrent site with more then 300.000 visitors told us that they were making 50K per month on average. The other two torrent sites were generating a revenue of 35-60K respectively.”
http://blog.cashlance.com/node/12

Your comrade,

Putin 08

*All comrades are assumed guilty until their public show trial where they will be officially found guilty.[/quote]

Not all trackers make money from ads. I go to a private tracker with no ads. The owner runs the tracker as a hobby, and every member contributes to the maintenance of the tracker through their hard work. Lighten up man… there are some good trackers out there. Most pirates aren’t motivated by money.
SPYCOPY

[quote comment="308481"]Dinosaur labels… imagine how many CDs 250 mil equals… they should keep that money towards their profits considering how bad cd sales are…[/quote]

I agree 100% What dumbass people pay 250 mil for some retard Orginization that does nothing.
him666

my site is dedicated to metal and direct connect hub, i aggregate some metal rss feed as well (mostly coming from blogger )
http://www.metalhubs.com/
Roflcer of the Lawl

I wait for the day that some hacker fucks IFPI in the ass, hard.
steveballmer

Dang cheapskates!

http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com
Putin 08

Jesus.

I make a comment before I go to sleep, I wake up, and it’s STILL “awaiting moderation”?

What does that even mean?

Seriously.

FYI, Putin 08, I’m taking your name from now on. Just for funsies.
Anonymous

*spittake*

$250 million dollar annual membership fee!?

…And the IFPI has the audacity to brand OTHER PEOPLE as crooks. Their battle against filesharing is driven by nothing more than pure, miserable avarice.

I’d love to hear those slimeballs attempt to explain the morality of attacking people under the premise of “monetary damages” for freely sharing music, all the while their gilded coffers overflow with the money they gouge from record labels, who in turn rob their own artists.

What a sorry bunch of parasites.

Speaking of parasites… The IFPI did one shit-poor job of shutting down Metal Hub. I’m having some trouble reconciling this:

http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_news/20080310.html

with this:
http://www.metalhubs.com
ace hall

based on a true comercial.

ifpi membership = $250m.

other lawsuits = $155m

the smile u get seeing other pirate
site shuts down = pricele$$.

for everything else,there’s IFPI.
Vektor

Actually, what they did is like “let’s show we do something – anything”.
In all public hublists there can be seen (sorting by country) that the biggest hubs in Chile have an average of 150 users.
A hub hosted on own connection costs nothing (and i think this is the case here). On a payed host a hub with 500 users costs 10 $ (including configuration, of course).
LOL @ shutting down a hub with 100 users.
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Anonymous

[quote comment="308773"]
Not all trackers make money from ads. I go to a private tracker with no ads. [/quote]
I have my tracker too and run it just for hobby, share interesting with my friends. It’s just a rest for me, but not a work and I actually don’t receive money fo this.

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euro nudes
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