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Ericsson: File-sharing Is a Symptom Not the Problem

Entertainment industry lobby groups often describe file-sharers as thieves who refuse to pay for any type of digital content. But not everyone agrees with this view. Swedish telecom giant Ericsson sees copyright abuse as the underlying cause of the piracy problem. In a brilliant article, Rene Summer, Director of Government and Industry Relations at Ericsson, explains how copyright holders themselves actually breed pirates by clinging to outdated business methods.

ericssonWhen it comes to discussing file-sharing and copyright-related issues, extremists often make a sensible debate impossible. The most vocal rightsholder groups would ideally turn the Internet into a virtual police state, and at the other end of the spectrum there are groups that want to abolish copyright entirely.

But as argued before, the solution will most likely lie somewhere in the middle.

In the past, several people have indicated that the best strategy for copyright holders to dissolve piracy might not be based in legislation. Harsh anti-piracy measures will only distance consumers even further from their products and it is doubtful whether they will deter many copyright infringers. Instead, it might be wise for copyright holders to examine why people use file-sharing networks and see if they can come up with a competing offer that makes the official product more appealing that its pirated counterpart.

As it turns out, the above view is not the sole preserve of a small group of digital revolutionaries and stuffy academics. In the most recent issue of the Ericsson Business Review, Rene Summer, Director of Government and Industry Relations at Ericsson, offers some similar suggestions. Speaking for Ericsson, Summer states that copyright holders should stop their calls for harsher anti-piracy legislation, and focus their attention on giving consumers what they really want.

“Current restrictions have forced European consumers into a digital exile. Seeking an appropriate way to access legal digital content, and unable to satisfy this legitimate desire through a legitimate digital alternative, many resort to illegal file-sharing. Economic rights holders spare little expense in pursuing and prosecuting these individuals, and do not hesitate to ask courts or policymakers to mandate Internet service providers (ISPs) and other intermediaries to police such behavior,” Summer writes.

“ISPs are being forced to act as digital security agents on behalf of economic rights holders by listening in, screening, surveying and filtering the exchange of information between consumers. Such strict enforcement further damages the prospects of legal digital alternatives by introducing the principle of innovation by permission. It also carries unwelcome echoes of the old Eastern-bloc surveillance societies that modern Europe has decisively rejected.”

Aside from stressing that pushing for draconian anti-piracy measures at the political level might not be the best strategy, Summer also believes that copyright holders themselves might be one of the main reasons that piracy exists in the first place. Unnecessary restrictions and virtual barriers take away fundamental freedoms and breed pirates, he argues.

“File-sharing is a symptom of a problem, rather than a problem in itself. This problem is the inadequate availability of legal, timely, competitively priced and wide-ranging choices of affordable digital-content offerings. Consumers also expect to be able to make decisions freely regarding when and how to consume the content of their choice. By clinging to outdated business methods such as windowing and territoriality, economic-rights holders are in fact creating the consumer behavior against which they so violently protest,” Summer writes.

“How can we, as good Europeans, accept this state of affairs? The success of our European project is founded upon freedom of movement – for persons, goods, services and capital. Why should digital content be an exception? How can policymakers continue to endorse the vested interests of economic rights holders at the expense of the promises of the single market and our fundamental freedoms?”

So how does Ericsson suggest that the divide between consumers and copyright holders may be bridged? The answer is very simple…

“Ericsson is calling for full consumer access to legal, timely, competitively priced and wide-ranging compelling content offerings, and a free choice of when, where and how this legal digital content can be consumed. We call for an end to regulatory barriers and deliberate non-availability through windowing and territoriality.

“We call – a full 60 years after the Treaty of Paris – for a digital single market that not only meets the requirements of today’s and future European consumers, but also the requirements of European history,” Summer writes.

“This is a pan-European issue, and as such, it must be addressed uniformly across the continent. To date, efforts to revise legislation have focused on protecting existing practices and content-distribution models, which has unfortunately reinforced the underlying problem and hence its symptoms.

“Instead, targeted policy reforms that stimulate the growth of a well-functioning supply of legal digital content available on-demand for multiple screens are needed if actors at all stages of the value chain are to develop products that successfully meet the evolving needs of consumers.”

Indeed, Ericsson is calling for an end to extensive lobbying for harsher and more restrictive copyright legislation. Instead, the entertainment industry should take it upon themselves to meet the demands of consumers. No more DRM, no more artificial delays, and global availability in all formats possible. In other words, offer products that can compete with piracy instead of attempting to make piracy go away through repressive legislation.

Rene Summer’s words may sound familiar to many TorrentFreak readers, but we don’t often hear them being voiced by a director of a billion dollar company. Let’s hope the right people are listening to pick them up.

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  • starwhite

    I was first! Finally a little common sense instead of greed.

    • Ugly American

      Sonysson – it must be freezing in hell right now.

    • A guest

      Idiots that say “first!” should be shot.

  • http://twitter.com/no_substitute Kim Nilsson

    Thank you, Rene Summers.

  • http://profiles.google.com/orfetheo Orfeas Theofanis

    I think we already knew all that, but it’s different to hear it from “a big guy” I guess, huh?
    Like the industry cares… Even the UN said they shouldn’t use 3-strikes policy and internet blocking, but they still do it and even more!

  • Maxxori

    The points are valid but the issue is that they simply don’t care. Don’t forget they see themselves as the marines fighting against the evil pirate scum that exists to destroy their way of life.

    They don’t really care about the reasons why people download stuff – if they wanted to know this it would be obvious.

    Until they come to the realization that they are part of the problem and not the solution the only way for this battle to end will be their inevitably downfall.

    • Ant

      This wasnt aimed at the content providers, but rather the legislators. And it holds more weight than our comments and point of view so this being said by ericsson is a very good thing.

    • Ant

      This wasnt aimed at the content providers, but rather the legislators. And it holds more weight than our comments and point of view so this being said by ericsson is a very good thing.

  • Anonymous

    They made marijuana illegal even though it won’t harm anyone who’s not a complete fucking retard anyway.
    I still smoke pot.

    They make downloading and linking to copyrighted content illegal…
    I keep puffing on my joint, reading about how they’re doing all this shit to stop copyright infringement on the internet.
    I check my downloads in µTorrent.
    “Yeah, they’re wasting their time” me thinks…

    • Anonymous

      Lol. Perhaps the best comment I’ve read (in general, not just on this site) in quite awhile, by far. +1 to you good sir.

      • Anonymous

        Agreed

    • DocGerbil100

      “I still smoke pot.”
      I think we all kind of guessed that already, Frosty! ;-)

    • Cyrious

      why is it stoners always come up with the most sane and rational things to say? Im actually serious here. Every stoner ive ever met, either IRL or online, has always had a much more sane and logical view of the world.

      Maybe if weed was legalized we wouldnt have half the problems we do today because people would be chilled the fuck out all the time.

      • Anonymous

        I think it’s cause stoners think a bit more when they’re high. They ponder anything and everything. From the ridiculous and outrageous to the serious and mundane. But don’t assume all stoners are like that.

      • Raeue

        Really? That’s not exactly what my experience has been. A quote from a stoner;
        “Have you ever thought about why purple is different from blue? It doesn’t make any sense.” Another thing; one of them was smoking in the common room at our college dorm at 2 in the morning, and managed to light our couch on fire. I can honestly say that I’ve never heard anyone say anything intelligent or thought-provoking when they were on weed (well, maybe one guy).

        • Anonymous

          That’s not the weed, that’s puberty…

        • Zig

          When you’re stoned you come up with LOADS of really great ideas, but you can never be arsed doing anything with them!

        • Raeue

          @Anonymous.

          If that were in high school, I’d accept that answer. In college, I’m gonna blame something else.

      • Moral relativism

        Maybe because of moral relativism. Moral relativism is the believe that something is true, because some group said so. Clearly anyone who smokes pot understands that just because a group (the government) says it’s wrong and illegal makes it so. Some independent thinkers think otherwise and therefore make their own decisions for themselves. I don’t think a consensual crime like smoking pot should even be on the books. I think I know why that is though – too many alcohol companies are worried about their possible losses if pot were legal. It might take that step for those on the other side of the fence to come on over. my two cents.

      • Moral relativism

        Maybe because of moral relativism. Moral relativism is the believe that something is true, because some group said so. Clearly anyone who smokes pot understands that just because a group (the government) says it’s wrong and illegal makes it so. Some independent thinkers think otherwise and therefore make their own decisions for themselves. I don’t think a consensual crime like smoking pot should even be on the books. I think I know why that is though – too many alcohol companies are worried about their possible losses if pot were legal. It might take that step for those on the other side of the fence to come on over. my two cents.

      • Moral relativism

        Maybe because of moral relativism. Moral relativism is the believe that something is true, because some group said so. Clearly anyone who smokes pot understands that just because a group (the government) says it’s wrong and illegal makes it so. Some independent thinkers think otherwise and therefore make their own decisions for themselves. I don’t think a consensual crime like smoking pot should even be on the books. I think I know why that is though – too many alcohol companies are worried about their possible losses if pot were legal. It might take that step for those on the other side of the fence to come on over. my two cents.

    • Hey I’ll hit that!

      Hey pass that thing already FrostyC!

    • Anonymous

      SWAT team is standing by. You smoke verboten plants AND you make digital copies of media?! Are you some sort of terrorist?!?!?!

      I say the death penalty is in line for you.

  • http://technuts.spruz.com/ FatGiant

    Please spread this news far and wide.

    Blog about it. Tweet about it. Facebook about it. Let _them_ know that this is what we want.

    Thanks a lot ernesto, great post. And Rene Summers, amazing clarity!

    • http://profiles.google.com/orfetheo Orfeas Theofanis

      I’d like to, didn’t torrentfreak use to have a “share on facebook” button?

      • http://technuts.spruz.com/ FatGiant

        Well, I have shareaholic on my FF, don’t need buttons on any site, and hardly ever even use them.

        It’s the most useful add-on I’ve found so far. You should try it. :)

        • http://profiles.google.com/orfetheo Orfeas Theofanis

          Nah I just found out about RockMelt. It’s a browser based on Chromium, so basically it’s google chrome with facebook integration. You should try it :).
          Off-topic, but I don’t like firefox… After using Chrome, every other browser seems extremely slow, although probably isn’t THAT much.

      • Anon

        Yeah, because it’s so difficult to copy ‘n’ paste a web address.

      • Anonymous

        Anyone else who wants more buttons?

        • DocGerbil100

          Not me. The page is a mess of scripts as it is – and Disqus isn’t exactly the most stable and reliable thing at the best of times. Thank you for asking. :)

        • squeeeeeak

          Yes, yes. Can you make a button that allows us to make a clone of Rene Summers, and then gets him to pop out of our computer and spread the message, in person, to the anti-piracy organizations? Thanks. Lol.

        • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

          Google +1 may be very useful … if Google+ is the killer it looks like being.

          … As long as you keep the scripts (serverside / offsite ) behind a link… like the api.flattr. com/button/
          Then you wont have additional scripts messing with things.

          * I , like lot’s of others , do block the majority of FB scripts.. eg comments etc…. they are really annoying…. dynamic, loading scripts embedded into pages….grrr

        • Anonymous

          Well i’d have to unblock facebook first to see the button, so i don’t think it would be faster. You could consider google +1 if it helps TF’s ranking. And good article btw! I am going to need this as ammo pretty soon.

    • Anonymous

      Lets go a bit further. And also send it to your MP or political party.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been saying the same exact thing (pretty much word for word) for the past week or so to most of the “Anonymous trolls”. Nice to see someone who might be listened to saying the same thing. However…

    Cue the “Rene Summers is a witch! Get him!” comments any moment now from said trolls.

    • Zzzz

      Rene Summers is a witch! Burn him, burn him with fire!

      Oh wait, what the hell am I saying….

    • Guest

      Lol you are the biggest troll and here and you call others’ troll, how ironic.

      • Anonymous

        Care to back that up? Because a troll is someone who post inflammatory remarks, argues just for the sake of arguing, etc. I do neither of those things and tend to be quite logical and eloquent when it comes to what I say. I think the definition of “ironic” is lost on you. That or you just have it confused with the definition of something else entirely. But hey, “Guest” (which is another word pretty much for “Anonymous”), nice to see you again, TROLL.

        • Guest

          Most of the people you call trolls don’t post inflammatory remarks. On the contrary, they just happen to disagree with you and make remarks which you don’t like. But they do make valid remarks nonetheless. Its obvious that you and your buddies don’t like people with different opinions and tend to brand anyone who disagrees with you as troll.

          Gotta go now. Talk to you later, TROLL.

        • Anonymous

          @ Guest

          Actually, that’s not true. Because there are plenty who do post comments on here I don’t happen to agree with necessarily and they are not trolls. In fact, we have decent back and forth conversations and on occasion actually make points that make the other side go “oh hey, I’d never thought of that”. I’ve had my mind changed on an issue or two and a few random points by those people. And vice versa. Because they do talk logically and do say things worth listening to. Unlike the Anonymous trolls. You know the ones who go “all pirates are thieves and criminals and just want to steal” and variations thereof. That’s a troll. Or the one’s who say something stupid and then refuse to back it up by having a proper discussion. I have no problem with people who have a different opinion as long as they’re willing to discuss it and not act troll like. So yeah, you’re way off base. And really, that last line was pathetic. I use that, so you try and use it back? How unoriginal are you? I won’t call you a troll, because you’re missing the definition of a troll. A troll doesn’t have to JUST post inflammatory remarks. It can also be someone who just comes on here to insult or make assumptions about others. (“You’re a thief.” “Everyone here just wants free stuff.” “You all live in your parents’ basement.” “Get jobs you useless people.”) Those are examples of the trolls usual lines here. I will however call you a loser for stealing (partially) the line I used on the other “genius”. If you can’t be original in your diss don’t bother at all.

          Oh and if you want example of people I don’t always agree with who I’ve never called trolls: Guest123, Friend of the People, Ven. Maybe one or two others And that’s pretty much it. I don’t always agree with what they say but at least they are willing to talk and explain their thoughts. As for the “Anon” or “Anonymous” ones though, sorry to say, they are trolls. A quick check of their comment history easily verifies that. So stfu if you don’t know what you’re saying. And you obviously don’t.

        • Guest

          @electric_worry

          I used the last line just to see your reaction. I often do that to people who don’t think before dissing someone. You used it against me without any inhibition but when I used the same line against you, you became offended. That just shows you can dish it out but can’t take it. I don’t take pride in insulting people, so I don’t think I need to come out with original insults. Original insults on the internet are best left to keyboard warriors.

          I also don’t feel like identifying myself with an unique name on the internet. So if you don’t mind, I will use a general name like “Guest”. If you feel like branding me as troll with all the other Anons or Anonymous or Guests here, be my guest but I will do the same to you.

          I have seen you calling others trolls here even when they were very much willing to go back and forth with you regarding a topic. Its obvious you need someone to atleast partially agree with you or else he or she is an outright troll. People who call pirates thieves are also people just like you with opinions. You also seem to forget that not everyone has limitless time on their hands like you to sit on the internet all day to check for replies and debate with you back and forth because most people here already know its more or less futile anyway. I for one got a rare day off work today or else I would most likely just leave a comment here and never even check back for replies but I guess that makes me a troll too.

        • Anonymous

          You just won’t drop it will you? Wre wre wre. I don’t care if people agree with me or not. As long as they’re willing to discuss a point. If you don’t agree with me (as a few on here have in the past few days, which you can check) I don’t call you a troll. I speak to them and try and explain my point of view, while questioning theirs. Oh, nor do I have limitless time, I work constantly. But it’s with computers. So while I’m waiting on something I peruse things online. And if you say something to me I will respond. And I’m not lumping you with Anon or Anonymous. I assumed you were one of them though. Now shh. You win, whatever. Don’t reply again, this stupid back and forth over the definition of “troll” is pointless. There, satisfied? You’re saying people don’t have limitless time, but here you are wasting time debating the stupidest of points.

  • Momo

    This sounds fantastic!

    But, where was this article published? Also, do you have an alt link to the source pdf?

  • Legion

    And in other news, the RIAA and MPAA pay the right people to fill Rene’s house with hundreds of pirated copies of the The Shit Locker.
    As he’s obviously intended to supply, they’ll ask for $100 billion. Oh and court fees.

  • Yay

    I’m definitely looking at Ericsson products first next time I need an electronic device!

  • I am a sausage not a hotdog

    Awesome really awesome we need more Rene summers in the u.s.!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

    You know what? A LOT of people have been saying this for years.

    Mike Masnick
    Larry Lessig
    Stephen Kinsella
    Eugene Volokh
    Michael Robertson

    People keep dismissing their opinions as “baseless and unfounded”

    Now you have a CEO of a fourtune 500-esque pedigree, saying the the exact same thing.

    • Anon

      you forgot Cory Doctorow

  • Eddy91

    Wow, first the United Nations, now an international multi-billion-euro corporation? It looks like we’re finally making some ground. Now keep on sharing, guise, and we might get somewhere. :3

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  • Guest

    “Off-topic, but I don’t like firefox… After using Chrome, every other browser seems extremely slow, although probably isn’t THAT much.”

    1) Firefox is just as fast as chrome, just as stable secured and functional and Firefox at 30meg is not a bloatware like Chrome (175meg.)

    2) The Chrome installation is very intrusive while Firefox require no installation.(Just copy the folder into the Program Files directory!)

    3) And why do we have to run a component of chrome when we are not using the browser??/? Humm?

    4) Finally Firefox support all these cool add on such as AddBlock, Download helper and no script, without even mentioning Mafiafire redirector. or encrypt all. Chrome does not.

    I am staying with Firefox.

    • Anonymous

      I have very little say on the matter with Chrome vs. Firefox, but it’s a never-ending battle… Let’s just say Every Browser > IE. How about that?

      On a more serious note, Firefox and Chrome are just about as fast for me when I was doing random things, and I had a brand new install of XP, so decided to try it out. Wasn’t that much faster, felt about the same to me as Firefox.

      Now, Mozilla’s mistake right now is their stupid release schedule. They’re missing the point about what made Firefox great, so right now I’m actually downplaying Firefox. This major version every 3 months is really going to hamper addon developers to keep everything updated, unlike how it was before. So, security issues and bugs will be apparent. One of my friends linked me to a security site and Firefox 4 had an issue in it that I’m not sure if it was fixed. I can dig up the link somewhere in the logs if anyone wishes to see it.

      Chrome, in a sense, is still new. Addons are not as abundant, I can’t fault the browser for that. Firefox has been around for years, while Chrome has only been around for.. 2 years? Something like that. So you can’t fault a browser on addons due to the time its been released. Maybe in another 5 or so years, that will change.

    • Shiznit

      “1) Firefox is just as fast as chrome, just as stable secured and functional and Firefox at 30meg is not a bloatware like Chrome (175meg.) ”

      Lol what a joke. Firefox is just as fast as Chrome? Anyone who has ever used both Chrome and Firefox, cannot possibly utter that statement unless he/she is mentally retarded. Chrome is so much more faster than Firefox that its not a matter of opinions, its visible difference in speed that you can very feel when you use Chrome. Pages just load way faster on Chrome, period.

      And OMFG, now we are using installation size as point of argument? Seriously, 30MB vs 175MB? This point of yours isn’t even worth debating. Are you using one of those 1gb stone age HDDs that 175mb is a big deal to you?

      “2) The Chrome installation is very intrusive while Firefox require no installation.(Just copy the folder into the Program Files directory!) ”

      Oh yeah man Chrome’s installation is so intrusive that when I purchased my new desktop just a couple of weeks ago, I just copied the Chrome directory from my laptop to my desktop and it started working straight away on my desktop without any installation. All my settings and bookmarks were there too :)

      “3) And why do we have to run a component of chrome when we are not using the browser??/? Humm?”

      Don’t run it at all then. Problem solved. Geez.

      “4) Finally Firefox support all these cool add on such as AddBlock, Download helper and no script, without even mentioning Mafiafire redirector. or encrypt all. Chrome does not.”

      Been using Chrome ever since it was released and the extensions that are available for it more than makes up for the addons Firefox provides.
      Mafiafire is a little known addon for dumb people who can’t figure out alternate ways to access sites that were taken down.

      “I am staying with Firefox.”

      Fine. Your decision. Nobody told you to change but don’t go sprouting around your ignorance how Chrome is inferior to Firefox.

      • Lukas

        “Fine. Your decision. Nobody told you to change but don’t go sprouting around your ignorance how Chrome is inferior to Firefox.”

        If he should stop calling Chrome worse then Firefox, then you should stop being so arrogant and stop calling ppl who thinks Firefox is faster retarded.
        Depending on you’r machine, either one of them can run faster then the other. It may be true that Chrome is most commonly faster, but claiming that as a fact that is always true is a fallacy.

        It’s clear that you prefer chrome, but don’t be such a douch to ppl who prefer Firefox. It makes you and you’r arguments looks bad.

      • Lukas

        “Fine. Your decision. Nobody told you to change but don’t go sprouting around your ignorance how Chrome is inferior to Firefox.”

        If he should stop calling Chrome worse then Firefox, then you should stop being so arrogant and stop calling ppl who thinks Firefox is faster retarded.
        Depending on you’r machine, either one of them can run faster then the other. It may be true that Chrome is most commonly faster, but claiming that as a fact that is always true is a fallacy.

        It’s clear that you prefer chrome, but don’t be such a douch to ppl who prefer Firefox. It makes you and you’r arguments looks bad.

  • squeeeeak

    This is so true. I really hope this makes a difference.
    Random troll: But you will keep thieving because pirates don’t care. You’re making excuses.
    Me: No, I’m not. I’m telling the truth. I agree with this Erickson company. They are right. If songs and such weren’t so expensive—
    random troll: But you will keep thieving because pirates don’t care. You’re making excuses.
    Me: Prove it. What makes you think that I am making excuses? Have you ever even tried cheaper offerings, with no DRM, in any format?

    Random troll: But you will keep thieving because pirates don’t care. You’re making excuses.
    Me: I knew it all along. You people do not listen to what we have to say. Gah this is pointless.

    Random troll: But you will keep thieving because pirates don’t care. You’re making excuses.
    Me: I’m done with you. You’re pointless.

    Random troll: But you will keep thieving because pirates don’t care. You’re making excuses.

    • Anon

      This one failed the turing test

      • Anonymous

        That should be the standard reply to the trolls.”You have failed the turing test, i don’t talk to spam bots”.

  • GetAcLuE

    completely agreed.. wish there was a way for all pirates to boycott all of these companies for a while just so they can see exactly how much of their revenues is coming from those “damn thieving pirates”.. then they would walk back and shame and rethink their actions.. only difference between a pirate and a non-pirate is that the pirate consumes so much, they have to pick and choose what to buy.. buy the good stuff and test out the possible good (but likely garbage)… or buy everything and live in a cardboard box next month… prices are ridiculous on some stuff. the same exact thing can cost $30 in U.S. and $60 in Canada at the same time from the same company. you really think i am going to pay $60 after seeing that $30 tag someone 50 miles south of me can get? no.. and formats.. mkv is pretty much the most popular format out there right now, yet nothing legal comes in mkv…. i can go on and on and with this.. but there is really no point.. the message to the “industry” is: get a fucking clue!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FCNK7C55CBUYFVSC5LNWKB322E Buglord

    after reading, I forgot what I was going to comment, although…

    on a software/game related note:
    if you install something, you are copying it, when you copy it to your pc it will remain on the cd for further copying to any new pc you might get, in case you uninstall it for some reason, etc. and they let you do this, so essentially they say “feel free to copy this however much you like to any computer, any amount of times, within an unlimited time-frame.” what you can also bring this to is “I am not “sharing” it, I’m just copying it again, which you let me do”

    on a law related note:
    how, why and when in your life did you ever hear about a law that won’t let you share a translated message (as in, the message was translated to 1s and 0s, then “spoken”(via the great net) to the other who translated it back)? school thought me sharing was good, that we had free speech and such.. so who’s fault is it if people don’t know it’s illegal?

    • Anonymous

      It’s not illegal, at least not where i live.

    • Anonymous

      Your point on the software and gaming is valid, but only to a point.

      DRM measures in its current state have activation counts now. The standard right now is anywhere around 3 up to 10, depending on the company and product. If you go over the limit, either due to hardware change or some massive fuck-up, you’re shit out of luck if you can’t reactivate a product you legally bought unless you crack it. The only other way to get more activations is if you talk to the developer and/or publisher. But good luck with that, they’ll probably make you pay for another key, with again.. a limit on activations.

      In its current form, some DRM measures are against the consumer, which will eventually hurt companies in the future. Sometimes this is why I have no choice but to crack copies of games due to these restrictive DRM settings. However, there are a couple companies I praise right now, in that they allow you to deactivate your product, allowing you to uninstall, reinstall on a new system, and you wouldn’t lose an activation. Pretty neat actually, and I at least approve of that method. Its not sure-fire, not by a long shot, but it definitely works.

    • Anonymous

      Your point on the software and gaming is valid, but only to a point.

      DRM measures in its current state have activation counts now. The standard right now is anywhere around 3 up to 10, depending on the company and product. If you go over the limit, either due to hardware change or some massive fuck-up, you’re shit out of luck if you can’t reactivate a product you legally bought unless you crack it. The only other way to get more activations is if you talk to the developer and/or publisher. But good luck with that, they’ll probably make you pay for another key, with again.. a limit on activations.

      In its current form, some DRM measures are against the consumer, which will eventually hurt companies in the future. Sometimes this is why I have no choice but to crack copies of games due to these restrictive DRM settings. However, there are a couple companies I praise right now, in that they allow you to deactivate your product, allowing you to uninstall, reinstall on a new system, and you wouldn’t lose an activation. Pretty neat actually, and I at least approve of that method. Its not sure-fire, not by a long shot, but it definitely works.

  • Gene_Poole

    I’ve been saying this for a while, to anyone who will listen (most are getting sick of hearing it)

    Stop with the regional releases. Stop with compartmentalizing, holding back for theatre runs to end to put it on PPV, then waiting for PPV runs to end before releasing it on dvd, etc. I know you’re worried about lost sales as people turn to other formats, but fucking look around!! We’re still not waiting, and now we’re paying nothing!

    If you released a DVD quality copy of Green Lantern on iTunes the same day it came out in theatres, I’d buy it, and watch that, instead of downloading a shitty cam.

    It’s not that I’m averse to paying; it’s not that I can’t afford it. It’s that I don’t want to jump through your fucking hoops to get to the content I want when I want it, and now suddenly I’m a thief because of it. Well fuck you. Learn to innovate. Develop a business model that reflects the changes to the world after 1991.

    If you don’t, we’ll find someone who will. Welcome to the future, motherfuckers.

  • Gene_Poole

    I’ve been saying this for a while, to anyone who will listen (most are getting sick of hearing it)

    Stop with the regional releases. Stop with compartmentalizing, holding back for theatre runs to end to put it on PPV, then waiting for PPV runs to end before releasing it on dvd, etc. I know you’re worried about lost sales as people turn to other formats, but fucking look around!! We’re still not waiting, and now we’re paying nothing!

    If you released a DVD quality copy of Green Lantern on iTunes the same day it came out in theatres, I’d buy it, and watch that, instead of downloading a shitty cam.

    It’s not that I’m averse to paying; it’s not that I can’t afford it. It’s that I don’t want to jump through your fucking hoops to get to the content I want when I want it, and now suddenly I’m a thief because of it. Well fuck you. Learn to innovate. Develop a business model that reflects the changes to the world after 1991.

    If you don’t, we’ll find someone who will. Welcome to the future, motherfuckers.

  • Phil Landry

    If I do it, it’s mainly because It’s cheap. I’m a student and my budget is kinda limited. If I had wasted money on most films and songs I’ve head I would be poor. But still, I go see movies and I go see shows and events. My grand parents do not pirate anything, but they do not own a dvd player, do not go see movies and do not buy music. So, who is the best client: Me when I pirate but still go see a few movies per year or my grandparents who are not pirates but buy nothing???

    • Guest

      I’ll accept your overall point, but I do want you to realize that your comparison between yourself and your grandparents means absolutely nothing

    • Guessed

      The record companies should probably kill his grandparents – he would inherit money which he would spend on their products.

  • Razza

    Eh, I can’t really say that I care about this. He’s not going to do anything that can compete with free. Free will win every time.

    Unless they find some way to make it worthwhile for me to pay for something I can get for nothing, (they can’t), I’m not going to pay him. Besides, this is probably just lip service to the idea so he can go on cutting content like all of these guys like to do.

    • Anonymous

      No it won’t. We have a saying in my country: “An innkeeper with a rotten soul will expect his guests to be the same”.

      Torrents can’t compete with direct streaming of all content on earth in whatever format you wish. Pay per episode or movie. Not needing 50 different tv channels that i watch once a week when there accidentally is something good on. Hook youtube in there direct on tv. And make it all work with one remote. Priceless!

      • Razza

        By the time people start charging money for any format on any device, we’ll have figured out how to do it too, and we’ll still do it for free. Anything they can do, we can do without paying anyone. No one ever said we had to rely on torrents.

        • Guest

          Perhaps people should stop paying your for whatever job you do. That will serve you right. After all, its perfectly in line with your motto that people shouldn’t get paid for what they do.

        • Razza

          You’re a little late on that. I already cashed out. I don’t need anyone to pay me ever again.

          People should get paid for real things. I worked making physical objects. Physical objects have a limited supply, therefore they have value. Digital objects have an unlimited supply, therefore they are worthless.

          Also, I’m only going to pay if there is a penalty for not paying. Not paying in the real world equals probable jail time. Not paying in the digital world results in not getting caught, not getting fined, and not getting punished. The companies catch a very small portion of us. I won’t be one of the ones who gets caught. There is no punishment waiting for me for downloading it, so what’s supposed to keep me from downloading? If I can either pay to get a product or get it for free, why wouldn’t I get it for free? That would be an extremely irrational decision on my part, wouldn’t it you fucking idiot?

  • DownWithBloatWare

    Human greed can be factored into almost everything humans do.

    • Anonymous

      That is why we need Star Trek like Replicators. Make the costs of food and living $ 0,-

      • Guest

        I’d also like a unicorn.

      • IDIOCRACYs brother

        You forget we already have similair machines (3D printers, proteine sequencers, microwave, combine them and you have a replicator).
        You also forget that these machines need power and raw materials (in Startrek too!!) do what they do, therefore not $ 0,-

  • Logger

    Rene Summers for the win.

  • Crash

    I used to love Ericsson’s phones before Sony went in and messed everything up. It went from really awesome designs to identical little silver bricks overnight.

  • Anon

    I love how pirates say Be REASONABLE…price your products so low it’s too much of a hassle to steal them or I’ll steal them.

    And they want government to view that as a legitimate market force. lol
    Apply that thinking to any other product and see how far you get.

    • Sigh

      hey guy
      i think you’re misunderstanding something.. people commenting here aren’t trying to “legitimize” anything. we are merely giving hints as to how they can lower the rates of piracy. we aren’t arguing morals here. this is the situation, if they want to fix it (or improve it), they need to rethink their products and business models. if you think litigation and scare tactics will kill piracy, you are out of your mind or just very uninformed.

    • Anonymous

      You have failed the Turing test.

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  • Ayman

    How old is this Guy?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EQHZ5664BENGFPOAOTAZXU43X4 Jack Tokus

    yes, A LOT of people have been saying this for years.

  • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

    It was never about the money, it was about world government.

    As usual the elite creates a paradigm be it anti or pro pirate, republican or democrat, people pick sides then fight and miss the bigger picture.

    Sheeple.

    • Ne0style5s

      Nice conspiracy theory you got there.

      • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

        Nice doublespeak you have there.

    • Anonymous

      Money, power, all the same to me. It’s for people that don’t understand life. Compensation and jealousy of true happiness. Accomplishments of things you value are priceless, the only true reward you can give yourself.

      • Gjest

        Nice ideal, but I can’t feed myself, see Rome or meet that guru who is supposed to teach me the way to self-enlightenment without money. Also, you seem to be writing this on a computer, and I will assume that the man at the Circuit City asked for a check instead of a deposit of true happiness.

  • Anon

    Yeah its like the opinion of one guy suddenly invalidated everyone else’s. Pirates are and always will be thieves who refuse to pay for anything digital because they can steal it from the safety of their closet or basement.

  • Anon

    Yeah its like the opinion of one guy suddenly invalidated everyone else’s. Pirates are and always will be thieves who refuse to pay for anything digital because they can steal it from the safety of their closet or basement.

    • Jon7272

      to right back to downloadin in my man cave lol

    • Anonymous

      You failed the Turing test.

      • Gjest

        Hi spambot.

  • Anon

    Yeah its like the opinion of one guy suddenly invalidated everyone else’s. Pirates are and always will be thieves who refuse to pay for anything digital because they can steal it from the safety of their closet or basement.

  • Jon7272

    mmmm the sony bosses will be choking on there cigars from that from rene lol

  • Ven

    I call Ericsson out to lay out a reasonable business plan for such a market: they merely asked for “… Full consumer access to legal, timely, competitively priced and wide-ranging compelling content offerings, and a free choice of when, where and how this legal digital content can be consumed.”

    There is nothing tangible in that statement. The labels already argue that Youtube videos, Myspace Music, and others are legal, timely, and competitively priced, are as wide-ranging as the copyright holders want them to be, and allow the content to be accessed by anyone with an internet connection. So if they aren’t good enough for Ericsson, perhaps a billion-dollar telecommunications company could actually put forth a realistic idea.

    I don’t like people and groups that will loudly claim there is a problem without presenting any solution whatsoever. It’s easy to say that entertainment should not be limited in distribution in any way, but quite another to analyze the business potential of such a price point.

    Nothing will change until some good solutions are brought to the table. While ideals and goals are spewed by everyone everywhere, nobody has given legislators a strong solution for current methods, and no incentive whatsoever has been given to the industries to change.

    • Jon7272

      ericsson is sony good luck with that lol

    • Friend of the People

      If I could like your comment twice, I would.

  • Aeharding

    It’s part symptom, part problem: Symptom is what’s explained in the article; problem is that everything costs money.

  • Aeharding

    It’s part symptom, part problem: Symptom is what’s explained in the article; problem is that everything costs money.

  • Neotoasty

    How obvious and clear do we have to make it. I think it was crystal clear when the UN is saying that when you’re breaching human rights, you’re definitely are doing something horribly wrong. If words or DDOS attacks can’t get through to these corps, then I’d have to say a measure of action must be taken.

    They won’t learn unless you do something to them that’ll make them think twice. We’ve tried to play the game with their rules, we’ve tried to play clean, but they’d rather play dirty still. So, it’s time we do the same and more.

    • Guest

      No one cares about the U.N. They’ll say anything to seem relevant, and their resolutions hold no weight outside of their own walls. We’re going to need a real agency to say this before anyone who isn’t already on our side will listen.

  • Anonymous

    I am just too happy and it is hard to say anything beyond it is rare to see someone in a position of power get it completely right. We all know the problems with copyright limitations so what can I say beyond access, availability, freedom and enjoyment.

    And no it is not about “free stuff” even if some people are that way but that is what advertising revenue is for.

    The day they get it right I will be out of a job when my main job is to help people achieve their goals under copyright limitations and restrictions.

  • Mo5000

    I guess the best way to avoid file sharing these days is to download directly from sites like http://mp3jazz2.com or http://mp3cherry.com. You can also go for an SSL option on some of them.

  • Jimbo

    i wonder how long it will be before Rene Summer and/or Ericsson will be hauled into court for facilitating file sharing? there’s no way the entertainment industry is going to let this go unchallenged! speak against their docrine? blame them? dare to speak the truth? shit is going to be flying very soon!

  • Louigi Verona

    What essentially he is saying is that in a modern society there is no need for distributors as a link in the chain. This is why there is no way they can relate to what he is saying.

    • Ven

      The issue is that the ideas being put forth are cutting out not only distributors but also content creators.

    • Ven

      The issue is that the ideas being put forth are cutting out not only distributors but also content creators.

  • Hacklevel

    Let’s think for a moment about the possibilities that the internet and the digital era offers: the huge amounts of data (about each single customer as well as the whole) that can be analyzed in real time, the targeting and marketing possibilities, the power of community – thousands of people truly sharing from all over the world – transforming borders into funny division lines that you look up in Google Earth. I mean, think about a teenager filming himself singing and having the video viewed by millions of people! Now STOP.

    Imagine a system in which you could have instant access to every piece of entertainment, for a reasonable fee. A system that would include the movie, together with entertainment news and extras (directors / actors comments, behind the scenes, etc). A system that would analyze what you watch, the news you read, the comments you share with your friends about it, the feedback you submit to it; a system that would take all that data and learn from it: offer you the next movie that you would definitely like (because it knows you), that unlike cable TV it could really entertain you with what you want to watch / read instead of forcing you to random zapping.

    It is such an obvious business model nowadays… Hell, if these people don’t see it with Facebook! or Youtube!… then how can a comment from a humble pirate open their eyes.

    • Guest

      It does seem like an interesting idea. You do it. If it’s that obvious and easy, you’ll make a fortune implementing it. Something tells me that it won’t work out though.

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  • Gg

    This makes me proud to be a sony Ericsson owner,
    Sent from my Sony Ericsson X10

  • Thiswillsavemusic

    I’ve based my new business model on this:

    http://thiswillsavemusic.blogspot.com/

  • Somebody

    This is rubbish. There are already plenty of cheap easily available cultural offerings. None of them are or can be free, however. It is also nonsense to say right owner spend a lot of time and money prosecuting copyright infringers. How many people (in the UK at least) do you know who have been sued for copyright infringement?

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  • Anonymous

    I really wish this happens in my lifetime. I always dreamed of the day we could get rid of these profit mongering mafia associations. Let us be positive in our resolve to bring copyright owners and consumers closer using the power of Internet and get rid of these shady lobbying *&%%#$*&@#$% middle men

  • Anonymous

    I really wish this happens in my lifetime. I always dreamed of the day we could get rid of these profit mongering mafia associations. Let us be positive in our resolve to bring copyright owners and consumers closer using the power of Internet and get rid of these shady lobbying *&%%#$*&@#$% middle men

  • B6431437

    “This problem is the inadequate availability of legal, timely, competitively priced and wide-ranging choices of affordable digital-content offerings.”

    Exactly.

    I have no objection to paying for content, but not under the current exploitational business model. Get rid of the parasitic middle men and bean counters.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Have to agree there…. the prices for ‘legitimate’ content are way too high today to be blunt.

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  • X Rayded

    what’s so bad about being a troll? , i mean other than you are really short and have green or pink hair ?

  • Kempion

    How is a developer to blame for wanting to get paid for the work they provide to you? Go to a car dealership and demand your free car, assholes.

    • Fredrika

      > “How is a developer to blame for wanting to get paid for the work they provide to you?”

      They are not blamed for wanting to get paid? They are blamed for demanding to get paid, for offering an outdated business model that no one asks for any more, and a work that they don’t perform, the manufacturing and distribution of copies, a job that the filesharer’s themselves perform.

      > “Go to a car dealership and demand your free car..”

      Filesharers don’t demand anything from any retailers, they stay at home and manufacture their own physical copies. That is something completely different.

  • Notmyemail4444

    Rene Summers: I think you really drilled to the problem there. I am a gamer from time to time, but i refuse to buy games from the worst DRM-ridden companies. Sometimes i see a good game, but when i see the distributor, i know its a game i will probably never play…

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