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Filmmaker Schools Pirates On Correct Way To Rip His DVD

Most days the news surrounding torrent sites, the scene and piracy is dominated by lawsuits, busts and other negative stories. But every now and then there is a ray of light that brightens the day. Today we bring you the story of a filmmaker who didn’t complain when he saw that his film was being pirated. Instead he helped a scene release group to improve the ripped copy of his DVD.

Jason Scott is not your average filmmaker. As the creator of textfiles.com, which hosts archive files from historic bulletin board systems (BBS), he has documented the Internet’s first steps into file-sharing.

Scott’s filmmaking is equally technology oriented. In 2005 BBS: The Documentary made its debut, and 5 years later this was followed by the interactive fiction (text adventures) film GEt Lamp. The latter documentary was released in July 2010, and in common with most films nowadays it has also been ‘pirated’.

The scene release group FLAiR released their DVDRip of lamp just a few days ago, and what followed was an interesting and highly unusual ‘conversation’ between the filmmaker and FLAiR.

Get Lamp 2010 DVDRip XviD-FLAiRget lamp

A story like this is best told by the people involved of course, so let’s skip to the good part. It started with the flattering description of Jason Scott in the NFO file released by FLAiR together with the DVDrip of Get Lamp.

Jason Scott is a pretty damn awesome guy. For 12 years he has run textfiles.com, an irreplaceable library of well over fifty thousand textfiles, collected from the golden era of human kind, the 1980s. Before the dawn of the World Wide Web, unless you belonged to the exclusive group that had Internet access through your university, your primary source of information would be such textfiles, downloaded from your local BBS. Usenet, Gopher, Archie, none could measure up to the popularity of the BBS.

Not only did FLAiR make it clear that they are fans of Scott’s work, they also encouraged downloaders to buy the full DVD of the film. For this very reason the scene release group explicitly left out the DVD extras from their release.

As is common with Jason Scott releases, the DVD is packed with extras, yet we’ve chosen to include none of them. Why? Because he deserves your money, that’s why! Because there’s no greedy corporation behind this, no corrupt distributor, no MPAA no nothing. Because this guy curses digital data lobotomy as much as you do, because he *let* you download this film, because we wanna see what he’s able to do next. If you only buy a single DVD this year, let it be this one.

The comments from FLAiR didn’t go unnoticed by Jason Scott, who described them as “heartwarming” in a recent blog post titled “To My Esteemed Colleages at FLAiR.” However, Scott wasn’t too happy about all aspects of the release, and wrote the following.

I’ve just downloaded the torrent, and while the image quality and sound quality is excellent, you’ve made a mistake.

The DVD, as I’ve mentioned before, is interactive with a non-interactive version as well. To accomplish this and save space on the DVD (since it’s packed with stuff), I have a set of discrete tracks that are either summoned (via the interactive choice) or played as a playlist (via the non-interactive choice). Unintentionally (and I do really mean it, it was unintentional), this has made the movie a tad harder to rip, because the movie is in pieces scattered throughout the DVD, and not in any obvious sequential order.

Playing the AVI that FLAiR has released shows that you have ripped only some of the tracks, and ripped one extra one that shouldn’t be in there.

Scott then pointed out what the correct order of the scenes should be. In addition, he pointed out that as an appreciation for his efforts a ‘fix’ from FLAiR might be in order. After all, they ruined his creative work.

While, again, I am pleased you wrote such kind things about me, this mixed-up version makes it look like I made a flawed DVD with doubled scenes, and takes away the entire puzzle sequence, which I am rather proud of.

Please fix, if you can

And so it happened. FLAiR read Scott’s comments and yesterday they came out with a Repack of the DVDRip, fixing the mistakes that were pointed out to them by the filmmaker. In addition, they offered an apology.

Sorry for screwing up your film – we really didn’t mean to, and you deserve better. Please accept our apologies, along with this repack, which should restore the missing bits, and put things back in order. Hope we got it right this time, but if not, by all means do let us know.

Get Lamp can be downloaded for free at most torrent sites near you. Since it’s released under a Creative Commons Share-alike license you’re not breaking any laws by downloading it either. Those who want to have the full experience and all the awesome extras can order a DVD through the official site.

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  • dR435t4

    Wow haha nice… schooling kids on the inevitable!!

  • JohnnyBGood

    Wow! That’s BRILLIANT! Cheers mates!

  • Anonymous

    Or just download a DVD-9 image…

  • politux

    I wonder what James Cameron would do if he read a complimentary nfo file that was released with a rip of Avatar.

  • ahem

    FLAiR has always had some really unique and rare movies, these guys are great! I’ve enjoyed them for a very long time! They released the best quality version – Japanese Laserdisc – of ‘Song Of The South’, which is the old folks’ favorite movie. It’s too bad Disney wont release it here on dvd – its such a good movie, everyone should see it.

    And they released the laserdisc version of Who Framed Roger Rabbit, it has a lot of dirty stuff in it – the one thing I remember is Jessica Rabbit upskirt when she falls out of the car.

  • PiracyKid

    @4 What Would James Camron Do? (WWJCD)

  • PiracyKid

    @4 What Would James Camron Do? (WWJCD)

    sounds catchy

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  • Anonymous

    I’m apparently having trouble finding a torrent of the repack?

  • Mbb15

    LOL the maker of this movie even commented on the torrent on TPB
    http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5891524/Get.Lamp.2010.DVDRip.XviD-FLAiR

    Ive uploaded the repack now on TPB :)
    http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5896950/Get.Lamp.2010.REPACK.DVDRip.XviD-FLAiR

  • Anon

    A very good reaction which is nice to see.

    It seems like the creatives are getting the whole file sharing thing and embracing it (and still making money).

    Yet the industry machinations are not.

    There is a growing list of creatives that are leading the way whereby the work is free but donations are welcome, or buy the original, and it seems to be working for them.

    Thumbs up!

  • Anonymous

    Today we bring you the story of a filmmaker who didn’t complain when he saw that his film was being pirated. Instead he helped a scene release group to improve the ripped copy of his DVD.

    So where do we send the money after we downloaded the movie?

    Directly to Jason Scott?

    How much do we send? $20 $30?

  • lulz

    @9
    That is just freaking cool.

    @Jason Scott
    I remember programming DOORS and the BBS days, omfg you win :)

  • sausages

    all i want to know is why is ipredator loosing connection about 7 times a day ? its driving me nuts..does anyone know what is wrong with their service recently ? is there anywhere i can compare how reliable vpn’s are ? i dont want to keep paying ipredator if i can find a more reliable provider for around the same cost

  • J.B. Nicholson-Owens

    “The latter documentary was released in July 2010, and in common with most films nowadays it has also been ‘pirated’.”

    No, this is sharing. Pirating (attacking a ship on the high seas, kidnapping, and murdering the people on them) is a real thing which is not to be conflated with copyright infringement which is what happens when one shares a copy of a copyrighted work in violation of its license.

    Neither of those things happened here.

    There is no call for scare quotes to apply some inapplicable term. One should have the courage of their convictions and say what’s going on here clearly: this is not piracy or copyright infringement. It is legal and this artist is working with us.

    The license for this movie is the Creative Commons-Attribution-Sharealike-NonCommercial 3.0 US license. That license allows verbatim non-commercial sharing.

    The quote misconstrues one of the most salient points of the story: this movie’s license is not shared “in common with most films”. This movie may be legally shared with no fear of losing a copyright infringement lawsuit!

    We should celebrate this, help the artists that treat us so well, and not conflate the difference between piracy, copyright infringement, and sharing.

  • apollo

    If you want to send money, why not just order the DVD from his site ?
    You even get the special coin with it !

    I really do miss the ’80′s , it really was the golden age of humanity.
    People actually had to think instead of being handed everything on platter.
    The people behaved better and had more respect for each other unlike the self absorbed, egocentric , narcissists that live on facebook and twitter all day.

  • Bob

    I like this guy. “That’s all I have to say about that.”

  • Whatever

    Now we just have to wait for a baseless neomindless comment and all have a laugh (although i predict they probably won’t comment here).

  • Anonamoose

    Well…it’s obviouse he’s “one of us” :)

  • NotSoCool

    I haven’t seen Get Lamp, but I did watch his BBS doc a few years ago and it was fascinating. If you’re interested in pre-internet times, check it out.

  • powerless consumer

    lol holy shit I gave this guy a collection of txt files about 2 to 3 years ago.
    Link here: ‘http://www.textfiles.com/anarchy/JOLLYROGER/’
    I r famous! :P

  • Lindsay

    Haha, what a post! That is excellent, and i hope many people follow his lead, especially independent film makers who may struggle to get their flicks seen!

    Lindsay
    http://www.livefootballstreams.co.uk

  • anon

    I don’t think we need any tutelage on how to rip DVDs!

  • Anonymous

    @13, search scroogle.org for vpn providers

  • Swedish

    Swedish Appeal Court in Stockholm have leaked Piratebay verdict to the Håkan Roswall, Peter Danowsky, Henrik Pontén and Monique Wadsted.

    The Pirate Bay verdict: guilty, with jail time.

    “The Pirate Bay “spectrial” has ended in a guilty verdict,prison sentences for the defendants, and a shared 30 million kronor ($3.5 million) fine. According to the Swedish Appeal Court in Stockholm., the operators of the site were guilty of assisting copyright infringement, even though The Pirate Bay hosted none of the files in question and even though other search engines like Google also provide direct access to illegal .torrent files.”

    Same verdict will be made available to the public on Friday the 26th of November.

    “Håkan Roswall, Peter Danowsky, Henrik Pontén and Monique Wadsted commented that they are very happy about verdict. Appeal court have accepted Swedish district court verdict and verdict did not change.”

    “Henrik Pontén told that this verdict is clear message that torrent sites are illegal in Sweden and operators are responsible for all users actions.”

    http://wwwc.aftonbladet.se/piratebay

  • share-alike

    Question: did the nfo actually mention the CC license?

    If not, then they broke the license agreement just for the sake of breaking the license agreement. Which would be pretty lame.

  • NubCakes

    Whether this leads to profit for the film producer and distributor (presumably it gets a cinema and/or TV run) is highly debatable.

    In the case of two AAA video games the developer/distributor set a pricing policy of “pay what you wish to pay”, including free and released the game DRM free. This was in response to user feedback concerned with DRM used on their previous games and the argument that users would be more likely to pay and not pirate under this pricing model.

    In both cases the rates of piracy as determined by the developer through numbers of clients connecting to official games servers were around 90% – the average rate of piracy recorded for all AAA games actually. Further a large majority of the remaining 10% that chose to pay what they thought it was worth paid $10 or less, some as little as $1.

    This meant that the company made far less money than had they released the game with DRM and had 10% of copies purchased at a normal price point.

    Note that this experiment was in direct response to fans of the series requesting this pricing model and claiming to have the intent of “rewarding” the developer for adopting this model. Guess its easy to

    I cannot for the life of me think of the company however I’m sure some kind soul will post the details – sorry. It wasn’t a small matter at the time so many people know about this… did TF report on this situation of DRM free and pay what you want failing miserably I wonder? Maybe but probably not considering the frankly biased propaganda nature of this site – hardly the place one should rely on for a true picture, try ARS or some other tech sites for that.

    Now in this case the creator has adopted a license that entails truly free model – great as far as Im concerned. But it will be interesting to see how many “reward” this decision thats for sure as the rewards havent panned out before heh

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  • rhyotte

    I have not had the coin to buy very much, DVD wise, but I just added this to my list of DVDs to buy. Very cool. I usually buy only those DVD’s my young daughter “simply must have” :)

  • harry krishna

    perhaps jason scott could help vimeo host a video that doesn’t require pause to let buffer build. for that reason alone, vimeo sux.

  • Some guy

    I would hardly call those games released with flexible pricing AAA games. They were more casual indie games.

    One was gish as I recall, and one was an indie bundle of several games. There may have been another one or two done this way, for some reason I’m thinking positech did one. I think both of them were a limited time thing, maybe a week or two.

    Neither has the normal AAA price point of $50-$60 for a PC title, so your analysis of the profit at $10 isn’t a valid one.

    Here’s a news post on what happened with the indie bundle which was a huge success:
    http://www.zeropaid.com/news/89116/pay-what-you-want-indie-game-sale-breaks-million-dollar-barrier/

    Here’s what the makers of gish reported, that it was a “huge success”:
    http://2dboy.com/2009/10/19/birthday-sale-results/
    BTW, did you notice that STEAM sales of the game shot up significantly when they had a pay what you want through their website?

    BTW, that indie bundle thing? They analyzed the results and found a 25% piracy rate from their servers, not 90% or more.

    Those are the ones I remember offhand and also I did a quick google to verify. You may be mixing it up in your head about some devs releasing games DRM free because previous games they had were heavy DRM (one of the prince of persia games comes to mind, this happened before ubisoft went all nuts on doing constant internet connection), and the separate unrelated occurance of the indie games doing pay as you wish sales.

    Feel free to post some sources for the assertions in your post, I did in mine, and its possible I was wrong about yours.

  • The Common Man

    This is how it should be: film makers helping ‘pirates’ distribute their products – for free.

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  • Split Darkmatter

    My name is already on your site. Impressed… You can rip Split and Flut from Plizzel dot com but it come in on a daily basis from my Whimster rep at the UN. Something about the highest compliment…

  • Ninja

    Wow! This is epic beyond words! I swear I’m gonna try to find his DVD to buy now without even downloading. Simply because he deserves my money. Can we donate for the guy under the “because he’s an epically awesome dude” reason?

  • PiSexy.org

    I have to say that the creator of the DVD is one of the very few that actually fully used the possibilities that DVD structure has to offer.

    Some of you may remember CDi, this was the first medium with enhanced structure that made interactive movies and games possible. DVD has these same possibilities but hardly no one uses them. Studios need to keep costs low so extra’s are usually just a few extra sequences in the extra menu nothing more (some special editions have these extras woven into their releases: Unbreakable, Terminator 2 and the Alien Quadroligy DVD set to name a few). It’s nice to see someone making great effort to create such a DVD :-)

    Open signups at http://www.Pisexy.org

  • DMCA-hater

    “Since it’s released under a Creative Commons Share-alike license you’re not breaking any laws by downloading it either.”

    Another interesting thing about this: IF the DVD is CSS-protected and if Scott is the copyright holder and authorized it, then defeating CSS was not “circumvention.”

  • Jason Scott

    I’ve been enjoying the discussion, but I have to make it clear: my DVDs have no CSS, no region encoding, no menus/logos you can’t skip out of, and every frame of footage is subtitled.

    Thanks!

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  • james

    “If you only buy a single DVD this year, let it be this one.”

    Well, I’m buying 2 DVDs. one for my dad, and one for my uncle. They were fans of text-based games back when they were young, thin, healthy and singles. lol.
    this documentary will be a good nostalgia for them.

  • RobAC

    @Jason Scott Post #35 Oct 22, 2010 at 15:45

    “I’ve been enjoying the discussion, but I have to make it clear: my DVDs have no CSS, no region encoding, no menus/logos you can’t skip out of, and every frame of footage is subtitled.”

    It’s great to see you on here and commenting on your film. Cudos to you for taking this attitude.

    I am going to your site right now and ordering all your DVDs- BBS Documentary, Darm Domain, Commodork book pack and Get Lamp.

    I still smile when I remember my friends and I having so much fun back in the good/bad ole days of BBS. I also remember fondly the many text based games and how they evolved over time to include graphics and sounds.

    I look forward to watching your films.

    Thank you!

  • Annie Moose

    > south
    > east
    > open
    > in

    10 points!

    (and yes, I know that can be cut down to s.e.open.in in most Z-code interpreters. I used the expanded form so as to make it easier for non-IF gamers to understand)

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