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France Attacks Finances of Cyberlocker and Streaming Sites

France’s Hadopi agency has announced the next phase in its ongoing battle against unauthorized Internet file-sharing. In common with its counterparts in the United States, work is now underway to strangle the finances of direct download, cyberlocker and video streaming sites. The agency hopes to report significant progress by early 2012.

Having failed to make any significant impact on the growth of P2P file-sharing by directly attacking or threatening sites such as The Pirate Bay, countries are turning to other methods to tackle the issue.

As witnessed through the recent media storms surrounding SOPA and PROTECT IP in the United States, proposed measures are becoming ever more drastic, often targeting the financial and business infrastructures of so-called rogue sites, the exact definition of which remains unclear.

According to their Hadopi anti-piracy agency, France will be the latest country to travel down a similar controversial route.

“The knowledge gained through the successful deployment of the flexible [3 strikes] response and technical, legal and economic experiments carried out by the Hadopi, today allow us to initiate a new stage in the protection of copyright on the Internet,” the agency said in an announcement.

Hadopi says that many sites have used the natural evolution of technologies to offer direct download (DDL) and streaming portals which “specialize in the massive exploitation of illegal content” from which huge profits are generated.

“It is now time to enter an active phase of struggle against this behavior,” says Hadopi.

What will now follow is a consultation period involving those likely to be affected by the strategy. These will include the cyberlocker and DDL sites themselves, Internet service providers, banking and payment providers, plus advertising networks.

The discussions will also investigate the limits of existing legislative tools and propose amendments should they be found lacking.

Guillaume Champeau of Numerama, a news site at the forefront of French online issues, informs TorrentFreak that Hadopi’s plans are currently unclear, but have serious potential. An existing provision in the so-called Hadopi law says that rights holders can get a judge to pass a ruling on emergency measures that can help to fight piracy.

“It is an extremely broad provision – the broadest I know in French law – which could lead to an infinity of measures: filtering, domain names foreclosures, payments prohibition, etc,” says Champeau.

“It has no limit but the imagination of rights holders, and does not require that the impacted websites defend themselves. So I guess it is very close to the Protect-IP Act. The Hadopi will probably push a slight rewriting of the law, so that it can go before the court to use this provision itself, when today it is only available only to rights holders.”

At this stage Hadopi are promising that the upcoming discussions will be “conducted in a transparent and open manner” and hopes to report significant progress on all matters by the end of the first quarter 2012.

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  • anon

    In france, they don’t know the word “offshore”

    • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

      Don’t worry, pretty sure they’ll surrender soon anyways.

      • Anonssssss

        Yeah they don’t like to fight and when they do they loose…this is not a nation to look to in this fight for fair copyright law.

      • Guest

        Heh, hope none of you liking this comment are Americans.

        If the French hadn’t backed the rebels in the War of Independence there wouldn’t be a United States.

        • Zig

          It wasn’t a war of independence, it was a terrorist insurgency… bloody colonials.

        • Resin

          Yes, and without support from the British and Americans, there wouldn’t currently be a France.

          See, I can be pretentious too.

  • Anonymous

    discussions will be “conducted in a transparent and open manner”.

    i bet those discussions will only include those that are on the side of the entertainment industries and copyright holders. as no one listens to anybody else other than the ‘industries’, why not just filter their web sites? would save a lot of grief for a lot of other web sites and people. they dont want to embrace the internet. they dont want to use it in any way other than their way. they want to control the whole shebang. how can you belong to ‘club internet’ but have your own set of rules? if they cant use it in the same way as everyone else, dont use it at all!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

    Dammit, can someone find the MPAA lobbyist for Sarkozy and shoot him? This crap is getting ridiculous! Everytime the US tries something, France bends over backwards for them to curry favor and it’s beyond retarded to watch!

    • DavidZ

      “Dammit, can someone find the MPAA lobbyist for Sarkozy and shoot him?”

      Uh uh uh. However tempting that is, we’re supposed to be civilized. :P

    • Anonymous

      He is sleeping with her…
      Remember she is a recording “star”

  • Alyssa Blindy

    I wish we could stop the in stream of money to Hadopi.
    ““The knowledge gained through the successful deployment of the flexible [3 strikes] response…”
    Flexible? I don’t think that scheme is necessarily flexible, I think flexible is an adjective that should not be used to describe it, just as you couldn’t really use the word furry to describe the constitution of the US.
    Quite odd.

    • Danny

      Nor can you call it successful. I don’t think it has dented file sharing in France, if anything file sharing has increased at a faster rate since hadopi started!

      • Laticiebowman

        ipodah.net = hadopi backwards, fuck them

  • IDIOCRACY

    But this is actually a ggod thing, post advertisement banners for hadopi and the government of france and all major french companies on a “roque” site and all of france will be taken down. So this changing of the law will kill itself. Watch what happens if you advertise on the pirate bay for example with a banner of French Telecom…hehe

  • http://twitter.com/WillTovey Will Tovey

    At least they’re consulting relevant parties (or at least pretending to). The UK ‘authorities’ (IFPI, working with the City of London Police) just announced that they were doing this one day… I wasn’t aware of any attempt to discuss or debate the issue. ( http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_news/20110721.html )

  • freedom

    where is this all going, soon they ban the internet

  • bushmongrel

    I just can’t believe with the amount of crap going on in the world that this aggressive action by the studios/record companies/governments is seemingly a top priority! If they hadn’t been such greedy pigs for so many years and adapted to new technology they’d have nothing to moan about and we’d all be happy ! And because they have failed to do so they will be forever “pushing shit uphill with a stick ”

    • Anon

      “If they hadn’t been such greedy pigs for so many years and adapted to new technology”

      Uh, I think it’s pirates misusing technology who have demonstrated who the greedy pigs really are. The various governments are simply moving in for the slaughter.

      Pork chops anyone?

      • Pelouze

        exactly!

        Its kinda obvious what your average pirate thinks they’re entitled to just by reading posts on sharing forums.

        Free speech, fair use, internet censorship……what a load of BS, theyre just worried that access to free copyrighted media will end up being much more restricted.

        • Danny

          Do you not see the invasion of your privacy in all these cases. The US used to have free speech but that’s also about to go to shit, I believe the MPAA are having a ceremony to rip up the bill of rights some day soon!

          By the way, the majority of people who comment on these blogs are not as you say ‘pirates’. Most of us are hard working individuals who are big fans of film, TV, music. I in fact spend a lot of money on films and pay to watch TV (not many people pay extra to do that here in the UK), I don’t buy music because its all a crog of shit these days. What I don’t like is some corporate ass that thinks just because he has failed to utilise the internet for monetary gain that he is entitled to laws that allow him to in a draconian way. If you look at a lot of internet company many have made billions by not doing a lot of advertising (look at google for example), the problem is the likes of the MPAA have too much money, too many lawyers, and no imagination!

          There are plenty of ways these idiots can make money, look at spotify, lovefilm, netflix. The only problem with netflix and lovefilm is that they are intentionally crippled by the media industry for unknown reasons (well we know the reasons $$$$). I stopped my lovefilm account because there were no new films to stream on my account without paying extra, I was already shelling out £15 a month! People want the media but at reasonable prices!

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          There will be no restrictions here. This legislation will not affect pirates much at all. Legitimate businesses will have grave cause for concern as soon as the collateral damage starts hitting the fan though.

          We “pirates” have no cause at all for concern or alarm. Clueless naífs like you very much so.

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          There will be no restrictions here. This legislation will not affect pirates much at all. Legitimate businesses will have grave cause for concern as soon as the collateral damage starts hitting the fan though.

          We “pirates” have no cause at all for concern or alarm. Clueless naífs like you very much so.

      • Kane

        Ya know, once you pull your nose out of the mafiaa’s ass, we can point you to many cases such as the VHS, the Digital Audio Tape, the Cassette, Radio…I think you’ve heard the whole shebang already. Facts ignored are still facts all the same.

      • Anonymous

        lol. I love watching pro-pirate people and pro-industry people fighting each other. Seriously, though, is there someone who is not biased towards any side?

        • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

          Yes there is, but they’re usually deemed clinically insane, brain-dead or simply deceased.

          Next daft question please?

        • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

          Yes there is, but they’re usually deemed clinically insane, brain-dead or simply deceased.

          Next daft question please?

        • Anonymous

          Hm… I guess I should look harder then.

        • Anonymous

          Hm… I guess I should look harder then.

        • Anonymous

          Hm… I guess I should look harder then.

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        And once again the troll proves nothing is beneath him.

        First of all, this legislation won’t affect pirates one bit. Sad, but true. It has every potential of shutting down legitimate businesses as collateral damage however. Much like SOPA in the US.

        Secondly, decentralized bittorrent is a fact. You could shut down every cyberlocker and torrent site in the world and you’d still end up with filesharing continuing with barely a hitch. Welcome to the world of the darknet.

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        And once again the troll proves nothing is beneath him.

        First of all, this legislation won’t affect pirates one bit. Sad, but true. It has every potential of shutting down legitimate businesses as collateral damage however. Much like SOPA in the US.

        Secondly, decentralized bittorrent is a fact. You could shut down every cyberlocker and torrent site in the world and you’d still end up with filesharing continuing with barely a hitch. Welcome to the world of the darknet.

      • Still waiting…

        “The various governments are simply moving in for the slaughter.”

        You, and those just like you, have been saying this for over a decade now. It still hasn’t happened, and probably never will in any meaningful way. Do you really think the answer to those willing to break the law is more laws? You’re pretty naive if you actually believe that. From where I’m sitting, the copyright industry and those in the government supporting them look much like a dog chasing its own tail. They go round and round in circles, ultimately getting nowhere while the lawyers laugh all the way to the bank.

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  • Atmoner

    je suis français, et avec leur lois à la c** c’est la France qui ce ridiculise !!
    merci sarkozy

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  • Guest

    Hadopi? Significant progress?

    The only time when “Hadopi” and “significant progress” appear in the same sentence is when the words “doesn’t have” are between them.

    • Danny

      My thoughts exactly!

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  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    We understand that once or twice in the history of even an exemplary democracy a powerful elite can gain control of the legislature with a false mandate and use its term of office to disgrace itself in the eyes of its electorate with incompetence, malfeascence, or naked betrayal of the fundamental needs and liberties of the citizenry.

    The natural consequence of such a situation in a functioning democracy is an enraged citizenry which rises to express its disgust at the polls by electing new candidates to empower a new agenda.

    Is this the situation that we are witnessing today in the European and American democracies?

    Or, does a minimal standard of personal honesty and a minimal affirmation of personal dignity require us to acknowledge that these same elites have had continuous control of these legislatures for at least a hundred years; that throughout those years they have legislatively empowered the same social and corporate oligarchies and ruthlessly attenuated the constitutional rights and civil liberties of average citizens; and, moreover, that never has their utter contempt for the electorate been more obvious than it is today.

    German banks will be bailed out and German citizens will be forced to
    foot the biil for financial service enterprises who’s existential mantra is the capitalist self-justification of their profits and who’s losses are the direct result of their entrepeneural blunders. German voters are enraged. Why doesn’t that matter more?

    We are afflicted with Haddopi, SOPA, PROTECTIP. French and American citizens are enraged. Why doesn’t this matter more?

    Citizens are enraged.

    When will that desperate anger matter enough to make a difference?

    • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

      Brilliant post TUTD, and not least because I enjoyed your use of the word “malfeasance” :)

      There really is a “democratic deficit” emerging between Corporations, finance, government and “We, the People” and imbalance will eventually be righted for those heinous wrongs of so few powerful, greedy people.

      I simply hope that re-balancing comes sooner rather than later, for I’m not impressed with the status quo :( and neither should the people of France & Worldwide.

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  • Fu@fu.com

    LONG LIVE PIRACY!

    LONG LIVE THE PIRATE COMMUNITY!

    PIRATES NEVER DIE! THEY ADAPT!

  • Poopymonkey

    Just sue the banks of the world, for copyright infringement. Everything has to go though them to survive in todays economy , there fore banks are at fault and need to be brought down like other corrupt institutions

    • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

      Better to abolish money actually, and introduce a society that doesn’t rely on a corrupt system of “fair exchange” where that fairness is no longer evident because so many powerless people are being financially raped under the current system.

      • Ole Husgaard

        I agree that almost all people – in particular the middle class – are getting raped with the current capitalistic system.

        The solution is not abolishing money or private property. We have to look into why this rape is possible, and kill the reason for it.

        Perhaps more requirements on transparency for big corporations. Transparency for states is good, but perhaps we need to have the same requirement for corporations who can be larger than states.

  • bob

    So if huge profits are made, why don’t the rights holders just stfu and offer similar services?

    • Resin

      It’s huge profits in the terms of one organization. In terms of many larger organizations, the profits suddenly don’t look so big.

  • Guest

    No matter where it is on this planet the corporations have taken over governments. France is no exception. To get out of this mess we have to kill all these corporate parasites. ALL OF THEM!!! This is like a cancer that will not only destroy the human society but possibly the entire planet if we let this thing grow further. You can not organize a society around the concept of perpetual growth. Eventually everything collapses.

  • F. Rance

    Hadopi has been in effect for nearly two years now and has cost the French people over 24 million euros…..for what? No-one has been prosecuted and I doubt they will be.
    When the next government comes in this will not be the priority as it has been for Sarkozy ( for his personal reasons).
    A lot of French people are against Hadopi, including many artists. The more the media, the more they do it….it’s the French way.

  • F. Rance

    Hadopi has been in effect for nearly two years now and has cost the French people over 24 million euros…..for what? No-one has been prosecuted and I doubt they will be.
    When the next government comes in this will not be the priority as it has been for Sarkozy ( for his personal reasons).
    A lot of French people are against Hadopi, including many artists. The more the media, the more they do it….it’s the French way.

  • Dan

    The french are surrendering to USA copyright mafia? Unpossible.

  • Dan

    The french are surrendering to USA copyright mafia? Unpossible.

  • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

    Here is the real way to fix this: a blanket license that covers all movies, TV shows, etc. so you can download what you want, when you want.

    Problem solved. I would be MORE than willing to pay 150 dollars a year American for that.

    • Guest

      Giving 150$ a year to these corporation of parasites? Are you out of your mind?

      • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

        I’m not sure he’s out of his mind. I think the poor guy worked like
        hell to talk them down from 150K (lol).

    • Oomg

      this have been proprosed since early 2000 and never get listened too …. i wish we could do something so simple as a “copyright” taxes on our internet so they can stop bugging us with copyright, but the fact is, going after people give them even more money …. so yeah …. fail

  • Invalid

    Circumvention Method: Bitcoin.

    • http://artem-karimov-93.ya.ru/ Artem Karimov

      Who’s behind Bitcoin? It is not an alternative to any state currency, be it USD, EUR or RUB.

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  • me

    I saw this coming for a long time: cyberlockers are but a few, compared with a huge P2P swarm. It was absolutely inevitable that the MAFIAA and their goons worldwide would start attacking those single points of failure (money, bandwidth, etc). We will have to go anonymous, uncensorable P2P soon. Sure, download times will suck, but it will be a lot more resilient.

  • Oomg

    yeahhhhh right im sure all these corp will says just yes we will stop making million so you can keep doing your millions ….. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA keep dreaming HADOPI ….

  • willa Lavie

    P2P is so yesterday. The approach to the finances will have a bigger impact as the ad dollars and payments/subscriptions charged by cyberlockers will be affected. Good for France.

    • Guest

      If cyberlockers are ever compromised expect P2P to be, well, not so yesterday.

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