How to Make the Best Torrents
Written by Ben Jones on November 21, 2008Making a torrent properly is one of the most overlooked aspects in torrenting. Most users of bittorrent only create the .torrent files occasionally, if at all, and others make bad choices and mistakes, which can antagonise people, or make torrents slow to propagate, and lead to an early death.
In the past, we’ve covered how to make a torrent, and possible ways to revitalise a dead torrent. This time, we’ll cover what steps you can take to keep a torrent as healthy as possible for as long as possible.
Trackers
A mistake that was common just a few months ago, was throwing out torrents with multiple trackers listed on it. Until recently, a number of torrents listed on the Pirate Bay, had the same tracker listed multiple times under different aliases, something they have since corrected. There are also occasions where up-to a dozen different trackers are listed, all for one torrent.
Some might argue that adding more trackers to a torrent is a good thing, but the fact is, it’s often harming things. Clients that can only handle one tracker, will only announce to the first one listed, and ignore any subsequent trackers listed. Multi-tracker capable clients will announce to the first tracker, as well as any subsequent ones, depending on how they are grouped. The thing is, every peer on the second tracker, will also have announced to the first tracker, and would be available there. However, the peers on the first tracker may not be on any other trackers.
At the end of the day, you’ve gained no new peers (unless the initial tracker was overloaded or down) but used up connection time and bandwidth on your connection, and more importantly, you’ve added an extra load to a tracker. While it may not seem a lot, with even a single thousand-peer torrent, and a 15 minute limit on re-announcing, that’s 4000 extra, needless connections per hour, per torrent.
The solution, use DHT if your client supports it, or if you’re strongly adverse to DHT but feel there is a possibility that the tracker might go offline, you can use a second fall-back tracker. Don’t disable DHT for the torrent though (by setting the private flag) because it can help the torrent die that much faster.
Padding Files
This is a little foible that’s pretty much unique to the BitComet clients. A padding file is an extra file, comprising junk data that’s added to torrents, so that files all start at the beginning of a torrent piece. In theory, this means that if you only want certain files in a torrent, you don’t have to download an extra part, belonging to another file. It is also supposed to make torrent ‘previews’ easier.
However, you don’t save any data downloaded. What you gain from the front will even out with the added data needed for the larger padding file needed at the beginning. Worse, if you’re downloading multiple files, the padding files can add up in size, and examples have been seen where padding files have been 25% of the total torrent size.
For the average user, there is no good reason to use padding files. The is certainly no reason that compensates for the added irritation those files give to other users, or the increased data bulking up the torrent.
Piece Size
Piece size is the bit that can make a torrent seeded on a home connection scale well, or make even the best seeded torrent bog down. At its heart, it’s how big each piece is that is checked, and distributed, but also how much data you discard for a hash-fail. Make the pieces too few and big, and it can be very hard for a peer to get started, too many small pieces will use more of a peers connection for overhead.
It’s a delicate balance, that is not easily found. Small pieces make it less susceptible to poisoning attacks (as practiced by MediaDefender, among others) and will help a torrent deal with sudden increases in peers, by making it easy to get a piece or two to trade. However, keeping track of who has what piece requires bandwidth, and small pieces mean that you will be telling connected peers about pieces you have just got more often.
After a number of years toying around, the optimum number of pieces seems to be between 1200 and 2200. Most torrent creators will only allow piece-sizes in multiples of 16kb, so you should, with few exceptions, find a size that fits in that range. A 700Mb torrent should be 512Kb pieces (giving 1400 total) and similarly, 350Mb would be better with 256kb. A 4.5Gb torrent would have 2,250 pieces, roughly, with a 2Mb piece-size. Or 1,125 with 4Mb. Either way would be fine, but 256kb pieces would mean 17,500+ pieces, and is too many.
File Layout
The file-layout is something that can be key in determining how long the torrent lasts. The layout of a torrent and the data in it, is one of the most important factors in torrent longevity. In general, rars are not encouraged, and can lead to a shorter torrent life. Mainly this is down to the doubling of space this requires, space for the files, and space for the torrented rar. The only observed exception to this seems to be ’scene rars’ where the rar files are widely available from multiple sources.
For multiple file torrents, directory names are also as important as file names. An accurate, and descriptive directory name frustrates less, than one called “temp” or “001” which can clash with similar named directories on client computers. It should also be noted that although most torrent creators will name the torrent file after the parent directory in the torrent, the torrent file can later be renamed without worry. There is a general misconception that torrents can only contain a certain number of individual files, which is not true.
Also, be wary in adding extra files, such as small text files with a hello, or attribution. Without this exact file the piece can not later be resurrected in a reseed. The more complex the file, the harder a reconstruction, if someone else wants to reseed. That music video of your band might be on someone’s hard drive, but if you had a fancy nfo file full of ASCII-art, which someone has deleted, it not only won’t reseed, but will delete the end of the re-seeders copy of the video when it is hash-checked.
Connection Settings
Finally, and not directly related to making a torrent, make sure your connection settings are optimized. We have published hints on optimizing µtorrent and Azureus/Vuze in the past, as well as more general guides. Make your torrents right, and they will last longer, providing you follow one last tip – SEED. Without seeding, any torrent will die sooner.
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39 Responses
Really a wonderful and most useful post.
Thank you
Stumbled
first :)
epic fail for thinking you were first..
I dont entirely agree with the point about multiple trackers..
Im sure its all true and whatnot, but all I know is that sometimes I have torrents going slow as hell, and then I add more trackers to it that torrentz found, and sure enough it boosts right up.
So your argument aside, adding more trackers has PLENTY of times sped up my downloads.. I go by what works, not whats ‘best’.
All of these problems seem to apply to slow, crappy public trackers like TPB. @4 is typical of public tracker users: making a crappy situation slower still – he/she gets a temporary speed boost, slows down the rest of the swarm… all because they [i]can[/i] – the point being that this wouldn’t happen at a private tracker.
The point about .nfo files is silly as well: The reason .nfo files are included is to either allow a tiny file to be downloaded to see attributes about the main files – bitrates, sources etc. etc. – or to inform the user of procedures required – how to install, special considerations etc. etc. Often .nfo files do both these things… so its an integral part.
If some user, downloading from a public tracker like many people possessing low intelligence do, loses this file then they shouldn’t be able to re-seed.
Especially if they are dumb enough to make one for their “own music video” … give us a break, the vast majority of people here are downing copyright material, not spreading ownm our work, rofl.
LOL.
generally, I just download the torrent and leave my machine on 24/7 while I go to work. Im on a broadband connection average 25k/second (go ahead and laugh, I know its ridiculous) and have gotten…pfffft….200 gigs since January. Since I have a slow connection, I only share files while downloading them, I immediately move the files to a permanent folder when they’re done.
@#4: Maybe your torrents have had the same files, but are being distributed with different trackers. By adding trackers, you may get sources from another distribution of the same torrent.
You won’t need to add extra trackers if you have a healthy torrent in the first place
Just downloaded a torrent that had BitComet padding files in it a few days ago. What a pain in the ass. Vuze was totally confused by it, forcing me to download the padding files even though I didn’t select them and it kept wanting to redownload them each time I started the program up, saying the torrent wasn’t complete, when I had certainly already finished it. uTorrent wasn’t fazed by them however, and didn’t force me to download them.
Annoying.
meh:
On a regular torrent on a public tracker, it’s doubtful you will boost up your speed with more trackers.
often you can delete all trackers except thepiratebay tracker, and not loose any peers.
I’ve only created three torrents.
season 2 of dexter, season 4 of House and season 4 of Lost, all in 720p high-def.
The feedback in the comment section were all positive, except for the regular noobs screaming for more seeders. they were soon enough told to shut up by the other users.
I uploaded season 2 of Dexter simply because noone had done it yet, and I wanted people to enjoy the great season in high-def.
The hardest part was getting the file “out there”. But 24 hours on a 2Mbit upload was enough, and the torrent soon stabilized with people staying to seed.
One year later there’s still hundreds of people downloading the torrent at any time, 400 peers atm., and it would have been great to know the total download.
If someone’s got a tip on how to do that, please post it here.
I used thepiratebay tracker, and posted it on just about every public torrent site out there.
@5
200 Gigabytes? WTF are you downing? The odd person here and there get the odd TV episode or movie we wanna see, but u must be a seller.
Yeah you guys are right, it was the same files being distributed by other trackers, and the other trackers MAY have peers that the existing trackers of the torrent do not have.
it doesnt happen with every torrent, but sometimes i just get these ones where there will only be like 1 or 2 trackers in the torrent.. and like 30 seeds. So I add the ones from TORRENTZ and sure enough it boosts up to like 1000 seeds (Or whatever).
at 6 wolfy
dude dont be embaressed about what your doing, people that laugh at your internet connection speed should be executed immediately.. its those kind of idiots that really piss me off with there lack of intelligence.
You have PATIENCE. Its what most P2P people DO NOT have. I do the exact same thing, except I use LOGMEIN.com to manage the computer while im at work. I just dont care about when the file downloads, as long as its getting an OK speed, I just SET and FORGET.
DO NOT F*CKING whine when you are getting things for FREE.
But one thing you should try and do is seed the file after your done, if your leaving it running all day anyway, mise well just COPY the file to your permanent location and leave the file to seed until its done.
Its the right thing to do.
Those who blather crap about “slow” trackers likely don’t know what a tracker does in the first place. Otherwise they wouldn’t be talking about a tracker being “slow”. Why are multiple trackers a good thing? More often than not, a tracker goes down for some days and hours just at the wrong time. It is also not unthinkable that high profile domains like the TPB’s are DNS-blocked by some ISP, admin or mommy and daddy, so it’s always good to use another one or two lesser known trackers, too. I usually add TPB’s open tracker as backup. Of course this may screw the stats. So the torrent may appear less popular and well-seeded than it actually is because the trackers are not synchronized.
Thanks for this! I’ll defiantly keep this in mind when making a torrent!
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h33t: how to make an immortal torrent PROPER
the torrent filename should include tags for your tracker and your nick e.g. [migel][h33t]
name the torrent directory the same as the torrent filename
include an .nfo or .txt file with a full description of your torrent. for movies always tell resolutions and fps. for software always tell install instructions. for audio always tell bitrate. add value to the torrent by adding a title, tracklist, picture, tell small thing about why you like the contents
use the .nfo to post a description of the torrent on your fav tracker website. descriptions are EVERYTHING
disable the evil DHT! the best trackers use ipfiltering to block tracking IPs and keep them out of the swarms. the evil DHT allows bad anti-p2p peers into your swarm!
use a single reliable tracker. do NOT use many trackers for the number 1 reason that the swarm is split across the trackers and they cant see each other. a torrent on a single tracker has all the peers together and will be bigger and live longer. you lose *swarm weight* with multi-tracker torrents and you help the MAFIAA track people
do NOT use muli-RARs aka split archives or multiple volumes of the format file.001 file.002 file.003 etc. if RAR is appropriate then recompile the archive into a single RAR
do use RAR for the following: discographies, large collections of pictures or comics etc. the problem is file picking. in large torrents with many small files downloadersd will pick single files to download and their clients will then report as a complete! you are then in the bad situation you have 100 seeds but the availability of only 3 because every seed only has 10% of the torrent files … the solution is to RAR all the small files into a package and force the downloader to take them all and thus seed the whole torrent
make the torrent a sensible size! 1.2GB is the limit unless you are uploading a game or dvd or a full set of software. if it takes a downloader 3 weeks to take a 7GB torrent it will take him 12 weeks to seed a full copy to 1:1. make your torrents a sensible size that makes it easy for the downloader to seed back a full copy. the size of the optimum max torrent will increase in the future as we see bigger connections
NEVER RAR an avi
ALWAYS choose to upload the iso (disk image) and NOT the RAR
NEVER use password archives
reseed the torrent if the seeds fall below 4 full seeds
MOST IMPORTANT: propagate the torrent to as many sites as possible. propagate means upload to as many sites as possible. only then will people find it and join the swarm
*the secret of an immortal torrent is twofold 1. popular content 2. good construction*
*the secret of a GOOD torrent is ONLY good construction. if it dies then delete it and re-upload it again!*
http://www.h33t.com filesharing PROPER
@13 says: “Those who blather crap about “slow” trackers likely don’t know what a tracker does in the first place. Otherwise they wouldn’t be talking about a tracker being “slow”.
Apparently your too cluelss to realise that people in the BT scene use the word “tracker” in a generic way to refer to the whole process of downloading, download speed & seeding – the general experience & happenings around a tracker. How would you refer to a particular swarm, forum, website etc. if you don’t say the tracker’s name or “tracker”?
Example: Trackers where the swarm is slow are commented on by using the trackers name: as in “The Pirate Bay is a slow tracker” … get it noob?
“Why are multiple trackers a good thing? More often than not, a tracker goes down for some days and hours just at the wrong time.”
Errm, excuse me, your saying that more often than not (50% or more of the time?) trackers you use go offline? Right… slow, crappy, public trackers for you right there. And you, of course, do specifically what the experts tell you not to and add another tracker. Not only that, your “lesser known trackers” that you add are THE LARGEST IN THE WORLD, responsible for OVER 1/2 the public torrents – or didn’t you know that TPB domains are alias for the same tracker. Slowing the swarm (tracker – get it) down and contributing to making it slow and crappy.
@15 says: “the torrent filename should include tags for your tracker and your nick
e.g. [migel][h33t]”
Most trackers dont do this – for one it has nothing to do with how long torrents lasts, secondly people who upload torrents shouldn’t take credit unless they produced files (cracked/encoded etc. – ie. did something other than make a torrent file) and thirdly most trackers/users aren’t hell-bent on advertising their mediocre tracker that sits uncomfortably between the largest public players and struggling private trackers and fails to offer the best aspects of either.
“disable the evil DHT! the best trackers use ipfiltering to block tracking IPs and keep them out of the swarms. the evil DHT allows bad anti-p2p peers into your swarm!”
Idiotic – IP filters are only as good as the known IP’s, no one can hope to block all of them… another symptom of trying to be completely open and yet not keep track of rations. Pointless.
“do NOT use muli-RARs aka split archives or multiple volumes of the format file.001 file.002 file.003 etc. if RAR is appropriate then recompile the archive into a single RAR”
Well … DUUUUHHH. The only reason torrents are released like that is because private scene trackers race each other to be as close to pre times as possible – no time to extract – and then users of those private trackers can race them to other scene trackers, usenet & topsites. All this is done through remote servers of course – which makes private trackers very fast, faster than open, public places with no ratio.
“you are then in the bad situation you have 100 seeds but the availability of only 3 because every seed only has 10% of the torrent files … the solution is to RAR all the small files into a package and force the downloader to take them all and thus seed the whole torrent”
oH MY GOD, how inconvenient do you want to make it for your users? At private trackers those kind of files are made freeleech so people have an incentive to grab the whole thing and others can grab a smaller number of files and partial seed.
“1.2GB is the limit unless you are uploading a game or dvd or a full set of software. if it takes a downloader 3 weeks to take a 7GB torrent it will take him 12 weeks to seed a full copy to 1:1.”
HAHAHAH…HAHAHAHA, this is pathetic. Have you even been into a half-decent private tracker? Today I uploaded an 11.2 GB BD rip of The Dark Knight – that’s what happens when users have seedboxes. If you had been to a decent private tracker you would notice that people are sharing a great number of 1080p (8-14GB), 720p (4-6GB), DVD9 (5-9GB) and packs of movies (10-120GB, Naruto for example). Really, your tracker is crap, you apparently are against HD movies and season packs.
“MOST IMPORTANT: propagate the torrent to as many sites as possible. propagate means upload to as many sites as possible. only then will people find it and join the swarm”
The crowning piece of stupidity – after telling people to use one tracker address you say “propagate” – unbelievable. Out it goes for people to add TPB trackers to your torrents and well, cya. Oh wait, your labelling your torrents aren’t you. Parasite advertising then.
BTW, torrents arent meant to be immortal, they die out after a while.
http://www.h33t.com filesharing PROPER … really, give me a break, your site is really bad. If you don’t enforce uploader rules, ratios or seed times (hint: this encourages seedbox users like me to come in) – then downlaods are slow. When it gets a bit bigger you’ll start having major influx of PPI uploaders I’m sure.
@ h33t – When someone downloads one file out of many on a torrent the client doesn’t report that the torrent is complete. Only on the client does it do that. The tracker will still see you as have that one file and list you as a peer.
@ h33t again. Mutiple RAR’s are a good thing for large files such as images. Having a corrupt file and then having to download an 8Gig image again is a lot more hassel than having 50 rars to which you can isolate the corrupt piece and redownload that one Rar.
@The Lord
say a torrent has 50x files. when the client selects only 1x file when the download is complete the client sends a complete message to the tracker and that client is a 100% seed … it is a fault in the protocol
@Anonymous #17
do not confuse many archives e.g. 1.rar 2.rar 3.rar etc with split archives which are ONE SINGLE archive split into many small pieces
on usenet we see split archives because ftp downloads cannot be restarted and they are not error correcting
bittorrent protocol is restarting and error correcting. in 10 years i have NEVER received a corrupted download
multi-RARs are BAD for 2 reasons 1) RARs disguise fakes … it is easy to download the first 0 blocks of an avi to test the authenticity 2) a RAR needs extracting which means 2x disk space if the downloader is to seed …
@13 says: “Those who blather crap about “slow” trackers likely don’t know what a tracker does in the first place. Otherwise they wouldn’t be talking about a tracker being “slow”.
Apparently your too cluelss to realise that people in the BT scene use the word “tracker” in a generic way to refer to the whole process of downloading, download speed & seeding – the general experience & happenings around a tracker. How would you refer to a particular swarm, forum, website etc. if you don’t say the tracker’s name or “tracker”?
Example: Trackers where the swarm is slow are commented on by using the trackers name: as in “The Pirate Bay is a slow tracker” … get it noob?
“Why are multiple trackers a good thing? More often than not, a tracker goes down for some days and hours just at the wrong time.”
Errm, excuse me, your saying that more often than not (50% or more of the time?) trackers you use go offline? Right… slow, crappy, public trackers for you right there. And you, of course, do specifically what the experts tell you not to and add another tracker. Not only that, your “lesser known trackers” that you add are THE LARGEST IN THE WORLD, responsible for OVER 1/2 the public torrents – or didn’t you know that TPB domains are alias for the same tracker. Slowing the swarm (tracker – get it) down and contributing to making it slow and crappy.
@15 says: “the torrent filename should include tags for your tracker and your nick
e.g. [migel][h33t]”
Most trackers dont do this – for one it has nothing to do with how long torrents lasts, secondly people who upload torrents shouldn’t take credit unless they produced files (cracked/encoded etc. – ie. did something other than make a torrent file) and thirdly most trackers/users aren’t hell-bent on advertising their mediocre tracker that sits uncomfortably between the largest public players and struggling private trackers and fails to offer the best aspects of either.
“disable the evil DHT! the best trackers use ipfiltering to block tracking IPs and keep them out of the swarms. the evil DHT allows bad anti-p2p peers into your swarm!”
Idiotic – IP filters are only as good as the known IP’s, no one can hope to block all of them… another symptom of trying to be completely open and yet not keep track of rations. Pointless.
“do NOT use muli-RARs aka split archives or multiple volumes of the format file.001 file.002 file.003 etc. if RAR is appropriate then recompile the archive into a single RAR”
Well … DUUUUHHH. The only reason torrents are released like that is because private scene trackers race each other to be as close to pre times as possible – no time to extract – and then users of those private trackers can race them to other scene trackers, usenet & topsites. All this is done through remote servers of course – which makes private trackers very fast, faster than open, public places with no ratio.
“you are then in the bad situation you have 100 seeds but the availability of only 3 because every seed only has 10% of the torrent files … the solution is to RAR all the small files into a package and force the downloader to take them all and thus seed the whole torrent”
oH MY GOD, how inconvenient do you want to make it for your users? At private trackers those kind of files are made freeleech so people have an incentive to grab the whole thing and others can grab a smaller number of files and partial seed.
“1.2GB is the limit unless you are uploading a game or dvd or a full set of software. if it takes a downloader 3 weeks to take a 7GB torrent it will take him 12 weeks to seed a full copy to 1:1.”
HAHAHAH…HAHAHAHA, this is pathetic. Have you even been into a half-decent private tracker? Today I uploaded an 11.2 GB BD rip of The Dark Knight – that’s what happens when users have seedboxes. If you had been to a decent private tracker you would notice that people are sharing a great number of 1080p (8-14GB), 720p (4-6GB), DVD9 (5-9GB) and packs of movies (10-120GB, Naruto for example). Really, your tracker is crap, you apparently are against HD movies and season packs.
“MOST IMPORTANT: propagate the torrent to as many sites as possible. propagate means upload to as many sites as possible. only then will people find it and join the swarm”
The crowning piece of stupidity – after telling people to use one tracker address you say “propagate” – unbelievable. Out it goes for people to add TPB trackers to your torrents and well, cya. Oh wait, your labelling your torrents aren’t you. Parasite advertising then.
BTW, torrents arent meant to be immortal, they die out after a while.
http://www.h33t.com filesharing PROPER … really, give me a break, your site is really bad. If you don’t enforce uploader rules, ratios or seed times (hint: this encourages seedbox users like me to come in) – then downlaods are slow. When it gets a bit bigger you’ll start having major influx of PPI uploaders I’m sure.
@10
its totally not difficult to download that amount… My sister and I download each our own series and have compleet over floating hard drives and we can store 200gig without a problem.
SEEEEEEEED PLEASEEEEEE! DL Stuck at 4 kB/s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good one ! thanks!
These are good tips for the community but to really get the most out of torrenting you can’t beat private trackers. Talk to people, be cool and you’ll get into some invites and from there it’s a piece of cake and all the torrents are golden.
very nice guide, not often you see a guide to creating torrents
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20: If people don’t know what a tracker is, they shouldn’t use it at all. That’s exactly one huge problem today, people just babble along without saying nothing at all. They talk, talk, talk but are incapable of basic communication. By the way, you pseudo-elitist, pseudo-intelligent piece of garbage better shut your trap before someone helps you with that.
@Robbie Shoe: Like the previous post says, you must be one of the noobs who does not understand how Bittorrent works. In that situation, the general torrent populace, who knows what they’re doing, would be telling the peers or leechers to stop leeching and upload more.
Trackers have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH DOWNLOAD SPEED.
(Also, 720P is 1.1 GB, not 4-7 GB)
@Whoever said RARs are good for correcting info on torrents: No. They are not. Just reload the corrupted data into the torrent program and force a re-check. Your client will mark the bad pieces and re-download just those KB. That’s even less than downloading part of a split RAR.
And on that note, I agree: Archiving files on bittorrent in general is outright stupid, as people will finish the downloads and immediately stop seeding so that they don’t waste space when they un-archive the file.
loved your post, keep on the good work from http://www.torrentoolbar.com
I come from a public tracker site and all you peeving privees and the way we are of lower intelligence gets my fing back up; you lot take yourselves for gods gift to P2P . When are you going to get of your cloud and get down to basics. I was on a private site once and got out cos of the atmosphere there. all people were worried about were their ratios. Possibly your download speeds are better but belonging to a community means other things than just your ratios!
VIVA LA PIRAT BYRAN
(Also, 720P is 1.1 GB, not 4-7 GB)
That’s funny.
If you release MP3’s:
Make sure you include tags and correct file names. I have no idea, how many times I find a bunch of perfectly named .mp3 files that turn into track01 when opened because there is no ID3 tag information, or track01.mp3 that then has correct names. Then there are some that just have no names at all…
For extra points embed album art into the .mp3 files them selfs rather than as a separate .jpg file (or in addition to), this will show up in iPods.
The best way to do this would be to use MusicBrainz, Picard tagger. You might need to add an entry to the MusicBrainz database itself if its a new album or different release, there also needs to be an Amazon entry for albumart to be pulled in. You can speed up creating the database entry if you already have the metadata in the files using the ‘add cluster as release’ plugin.
MusicBrainz is also good because it actually allows the end user to update the tags using the program, so if there are spelling corrections the end user can fix them simply by syncing with the MB database. You might also not have to enter the metadata yourself since often there is an entry already in the database so you can save yourself time.
Otherwise EasyTag is a great way of manually embedding the art if its not in musicbrainz/Amazon in and lets you convert filenames into ID3 tags and the other way around.
And finally, CHECK ALL THE TRACKS ARE THERE. Ive found releases where half the tracks missing for no good reason.
If you do release the albums as one giant file, include a .cue so people can split them up. But I don’t know anyone who bothers to burn cds anymore.
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Or… use Rapidshare
What is with all of the, random commas scattered, throughout the article?
I think, the writer may have been just a bit, hungover.
thanks this is a great resources
http://torrentmoon.com
Well, at least there’s no need for brown-nosing on public sites.
And you NEED to justify all that ass-kissing (and “donations”).
That’s why you NEED to believe anything public and open (non-exclusive) is bad.
H33T has no room to talk as they are now in battles with Brein
To 46, I have found that there is a greater community spirit on public sites and forums than on the private ones. well and good there are members who do not play ball but they do not stay long. As for those leechers on take and run, even though being on a public site does not stop me having a ratio of 5 or more. If I see that the number of seeders exceed the leechers then I let it go to 3, just to keep the ball rolling.
But missing the point of coming here. Must say I appreciated the post by Ben. It is informative and interesting.
Great info, thanks
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