Large Pirate Topsite Raided in Sweden
Written by Ernesto on March 06, 2009Swedish police have busted a server belonging to one of the largest topsites in the country. It was part of a ring of servers totaling 65 terabytes of pirated material data. Several well known ’scene’ groups used the site. The Swedish anti-piracy bureau assisted in the investigation and says that their war on piracy will continue.
The raids were carried out two weeks ago but were only announced today. The site, which goes by the name ‘Sunnydale’, was a so-called topsite that hosted pirated movies, software and TV-shows spread out over a dozen servers. One of the servers was raided. Topsites are FTP servers where ’scene’ releases are stored and archived.
There are several large topsites hosted in Sweden, some of which host hundreds of terabytes of pirated material. However, according to ’scene’ etiquette, the files on these are not supposed to leak to other (more public) file-sharing networks but eventually they all do, with most of the big releases managing this in mere minutes.
This puts these servers close to the top of the ‘Piracy Pyramid‘ and one of the priority targets of anti-piracy outfits. Two weeks ago, Pirate Bay co-founder Anakata told the court that these scene members “hate The Pirate Bay” because they prefer to keep their releases within a select group.
Henrik Pontén from Antipiratbyrån – the Swedish anti-piracy office – applauded the police and said that this was one of the largest busts ever, and the largest in Sweden. According to one of our own sources, several well known scene groups were using the servers, which means that they may have been compromised.
For now, the investigation focuses on the person who operated the server in question. “A person suspected of running the server has been identified and it is now up to the police to investigate this. Now, we will continue to look for similar pirate servers,” Pontén told Aftonbladet.
Pontén also claimed that the Sunnydale topsite was the source of all pirated material available on The Pirate Bay, but this was denied by Peter Sunde. “More than 800,000 people have uploaded to The Pirate Bay, so I don’t believe it’s the source of everything. But it is possible that it’s a major source,” he said.
Antipiratbyrån’s involvement in this raid is questionable. In 2005 the police conducted an similar raid at Swedish ISP Bahnhof, only to be presented with evidence that Antipiratbyrån themselves had hired someone to plant copyright material. It turned out that the infiltrator was far from a passive observer. The infiltrator had transferred 68,000 files and went as far as buying hardware for the server to increase its storage capacity.
Antipiratbyrån was later sued for illegal trespassing and harassment because of these entrapment practices which are illegal in Sweden. Now, four years on and they are again involved in a similar raid, but whether they had any help from an insider this time is unknown. The exact role Antipiratbyrån played in this raid remains unclear, but it is likely that they tipped off the police about the location and existence of ‘Sunnydale.’
Pontén said that his organization will continue its “war on piracy.”
Update: Only one of Sunnydale’s servers was seized, the location of the other servers remains unknown.
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First? Yeah, this doesn’t really surprise me.
missed me…scurries away with his 8 TB of stuff TB of
adlib , i heard lars ulrich was at a pay phone in sweden earlier…..
owned
Eat shit and die Antipiratbyrån!
The worst part is that the “Antipiratbyrån themselves had hired someone to plant copyright material” part didn’t surprise me at all.
one is to share for free, and another to make big bucks whit something that isn’t yours.
nice going Swedish police.
so I suppose the pirat partiet will get several new voters.
we cant survive the attacks of the copyright fascists just by hiding. we have to team up, votevotevote, and make the fsckers illegal like they’ve done with us.
65tb? Drop in the bucket for these kinds of sites.
As for this being the biggest bust ever… well, with the sizes of HDD disks increasing they way they are every bust from now on is going to be the “biggest bust ever”.
I dont really feel bad for the scene groups as they are pretty much elitist SOBs but I do hope nobody gets into any real trouble for this, i’m sure the content industries will push as hard as possible to make an ‘example’ of some people.
Like most men in Sweden I wish I had three testicles, one of the music industry to suck on, one for the movie industry to suck on and the third for Pontén. No matter how many servers they take down, this will never change.
Sweden – land of pretty blonde girls, great nightlife and —- the pirate bay. ARRRRRR!
I don’t get it. Don’t these guys run encrypted filesystems? Kinda useless to run such a large operation with regular files isn’t it? Have the police shut down the servers and all the evidence goes down into oblivion. People calling the sceners arrogant gotta remember that it’s them who usually supply the early releases and normally represent the most reliable sources. Pirate Bay is nice but even with brand new files with hundreds of seeders the speeds are suck-ass.
But even if they took down one, helloooo. These are Gigabit connections. Even if they took down one “ring” there are so many seedboxes and mirrors all over the place I’d think that hardly any data was lost at all.
There have been a couple of busts recently but i think this is the first one in some time that’s not related to a pay2leech site, cg on that …
Get your facts straight, they busted one of the ten servers, as said in aftonbladet.se – the other where taken down so the cops couldnt find them.
“This puts these servers close to the top of the ‘Piracy Pyramid’ and one of the priority targets of anti-piracy outfits.”
So, what is their logic behind this? After all, it is not like file-sharing relies on top-sites.
As for the top-sites’ exclusivity – perhaps that is for their self protection or something like that.
wow, that’s a tough one. Not funny either, if more of these go down you’ll be downloading soon homemade crap instead of latest releases.
All they can do is make “examples”, it’s pathetic.
If anyone from the industry reads this, you can’t kill the scene, it’s a soceity that was started on a very modern idea; that via internet people can live with much more wealth.
You can only ruin a couple of peoples’ lifes, and that’s it. Your salary becomes blood money. The scene only grows. Any damage caused is restored in weeks.
When will the industry learn? It needs to adapt.
You CAN battle free with paid, if you do it right. The prices are too high. In modern soceity there can be a lot more wealth for everyone, because copies can be spread for almost no money. Drastically lower your prices online, so people can buy more. People will also buy more works from smaller artists/productions, so also in the industry wealth will be spread more equally. Material boxes will be a useless luxery item for the serious fans in the future. Like you put the photos of your family in frames.
Stop delaying the inevitable.
It’s a shame that busts like this will be used as red herrings against trackers, and it’s probably not a coincidence that the takedown was this week during the ongoing pirate bay trial.
It might be true that the scene members hate public trackers like TPB, but don’t expect any laymen (judges, attorneys, executives, journalists) to understand that. If they can’t even figure out the technology how will they comprehend the politics behind all the different subcultures?
LFMAO!!!
What a bunch of n00bs!!!
You can’t touch torrentleech we pwnzz j00 n00bz lulz
@ 15 shut up you troll. Sites like TL get their files from Topsites.
Thanks TPB for fucking things up for everyone, you money hungry bastards, I hope they shut you down.
“according to ’scene’ etiquette, the files on these are not supposed to leak to other (more public) file-sharing networks but eventually they all do”
Er, no they do not “all” leak. Actually a huge proportion of files do not leak at all. I’ve seen someone who’d know say probably 90% of content doesn’t leak and stays within the scene.
“I dont really feel bad for the scene groups as they are pretty much elitist SOBs”
The reason members of the scene aren’t busted very often – despite operating in a very organised way to produce very high quality copies of copyrighted works of just about every medium that can be reproduced digitally – is because it is open to a select group of people, the majority of whom are involved in “the scene”.
If “the scene” allowed millions of newbie idiots to access this material – like say a torrent tracker like TPB – busts would be much more commonplace. Your confusing “elitist” with self protection and poeple who know basics of hiding themselves.
What is the point of allowing anyone and everyone where people don’t know what they’re doing, don’t care who knows and invites LEA by their actions if people are going to get caught… like most trackers?
Incident like this only motivates and encourages me to upload more materials to P2P, to show the anti-piracy agencies who is really taking charge of our lifestyle. I think it was an insider job that lead to the bust. Regardless, nothing is going stop us. We come from every corners of the world. There are far more of us than them. Power to the P2p People from over the world. God bless you all from U.S.A.
For once NubCakes I can agree with you here, at least for the most part. The “scene” is an amazingly fluid thing but only those that play by the rules are truly legit members. Personally I’d have no idea where to begin looking for connections, and quite frankly wouldn’t have the skills and/or resources to provide anything worthwhile to them anyway, but I’ll give them their due none the less. Without these groups the P2P world would be a much more drab place to be certain, whether they want to contribute or not.
Of course the media companies would like to shut them all down if they could, but to think that they could disrupt what almost amounts to a shadow nation is about as much the definition of futility as I could find.
As for elitist, they’ve come across that way (or at least certain groups) often enough, but it’s not bragging if you can back it up.
Sunnydale will be back. They have not caught the owner of the topsite. All affected groups are safe.
They can’t stop us all. There will be hundreds of other topsites that will continue to keep running. P2P sucks; long live the scene!
bad translation?
none of the swedish links says that 65TB was seized. The 10 servers together is believed to contain 65TB of data. Police has seized ONE of them.
65tb is much?
I’m holding a steady 20tb on my private server… Wich I only use between me and co-workers.
>_>
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sites are encrypted.. once the plug was pulled the info contained within the boxes is useless the admin give sup the password. no group is compromised without this info.
When The Pirate Bay were busted, the police did not wait several weeks to announce the news. They arranged a press conference THAT VERY SAME DAY.
The police obviously did not want information about this bust to hurt their efforts during the TPB trial to portray TPB as the kingpins of internet piracy, as TPB’s defense would certainly have pointed to the Sunnydale Scene groups who were busted as the primary responsible culprits for copyright violations – and therefore the people who should be on trial – instead of TPB.
Hopefully TPB will be allowed to bring up this issue on their almost-certain appeal.
@ 15 n00bs?
first off top sites are where releases are pre’d every release you see on the interenet are dropped on topsites all accross the world, once a release is pre’d (uploaded to the ftp) a sitebot mimics the transaction in an private irc channel… Then you have currys that race the releases to other tops for credit on the sites, usually a 1:3 ratio there are 1000’s of these topsites located on the internet all accross the world. A single curry at any given time has access to anywhere bewteen 10-100, that they race thier releases to and fro…. This is by no means the only source pirated material for pirate bay. Defianately an idiotic statement.
With regard to encryption.. these sites are setup to usually use a shell to bounce the ip so the locations are usually ran proxy another computer.
This isn’t the first of its kind for a takedown.. the largest bust, was when i was still in the game back in the day. It was called Operation Buccaneer, took down DoD check it out.
what a load of shit, it’s not a topsite more likely an ftpring or dcpp hub
65tb is rather small anyway these days…
@13 – I always love it when people project some sort of political agenda onto the scene… it’s a game, nothing more, nothing less.
seriously… can someone who knows this for sure comment, were the files encrypted? if not that was REALLY stupid off whoever ran the server… All my disks are encrypted with bit locker frack the police if they ever get hold of my disks, they will not be able to decrypt the data in the next 30 years and then statue of limitation of my “crime” is allready in effect… we are talking military grade encryption here people!!!
@28 “the scene is the sh*t”
Bitlocker has backdoors built in by Microsoft. You may wanna look at an alternative such as Truecrypt
They don’t just go in there and unplug the systems…
The first option is obviously to get the data before moving the system. A more reliable option though is to move it without ever turning the system off.
I’ve lost the link now, but if they know what they’re doing they go in, switch the computer to an external power source, and transport it to a new location, all without it being turned off. This is accomplished by splicing into the actual power wire and rerouting the current through (essentially) a battery, which can be plugged in at another location.
I read about that several years ago now, so I’m sure there is an even better way to accomplish this now.
One less moron. Good.
I wouldn’t call these guys who were busted “Members of the scene”.
This are like the script kiddies of the “scene” that got busted on their little “ring site”.
They are a risk to the “scene” and a few will be affiliated with the “scene”.
Instead of pre’ing only where they’re supposed to, or trading only where they’re supposed to, these “security risks to the scene” are like little kiddies who have to show they are leet by running or being a member of a ring site.
They are the scum of the “scene”.
Let this be a lesson to those who break rules and trade on “ring sites”, which as you know is enough to get you tossed out of the “scene”.
Scums got what the deserved. They are, and were, a risk to the others trading like this and trying to be leet by probably pre’ing 0-sec.
Ring-sites = bad and not “scene” approved.
“Instead of pre’ing only where they’re supposed to, or trading only where they’re supposed to, these “security risks to the scene” are like little kiddies who have to show they are leet by running or being a member of a ring site.”
Well from that statement I can tell you have no idea of what you’re tlaking about. douchebag, no one is very impressed by your display of knowledge about stuff you’ve no idea about. douchebag.
yeh that sounded like a lot of douchebaggery to me too
“The police obviously did not want information about this bust to hurt their efforts during the TPB trial to portray TPB as the kingpins of internet piracy, as TPB’s defense would certainly have pointed to the Sunnydale Scene groups who were busted as the primary responsible culprits for copyright violations – and therefore the people who should be on trial – instead of TPB.”
What are you babbling about? You’re stupid conspiracy ideas are so half-assed and if you’d taken a moment to think about it would be better.
TPB defense would not have pointed out that Sunnydale was the primary party involved as that has precisly nothing to do with anything – you cannot argue in court that another party “breaks the law more so don’t charge me”.
The court would not have beleived that some FTP ring no one has heard of is a bigger player than TPB.
STFU.
Down with drftpd, TPB, idiot noobs, etc. Also, “the scene” has roots that go back DECADES, things like this are but a hiccough.
that is all…
I used to be a releaser.
few things i mst point:
I always bought what i released.
I did never sell (or earn any buck) a release.
I just released some music because i wanted to share.
Yes, releasers usually don’t want to see is releases on TPB, Emule or whatever, because they like to share the work with people who works, not with leechers.
If you like what you download you should buy it if you can afford for it. Buy music and share it!
And this is why you use BitTorrent.
By sticking to centralized FTP servers, “the scene” is basically making the same mistake as the IFPI insofar as refusing to embrace new technology.
Stop relying on security through obscurity, you damn scenesters. Because it instantly falls apart once there’s a crack in the ‘obscurity’ part.
Sounds like some gay drftpd site.
” And this is why you use BitTorrent.
By sticking to centralized FTP servers, “the scene” is basically making the same mistake as the IFPI insofar as refusing to embrace new technology.
Stop relying on security through obscurity, you damn scenesters. Because it instantly falls apart once there’s a crack in the ‘obscurity’ part.
^^ Unbelelievably stupid comment by a noob torrenter.
Nothing’s falling apart. One person has been identified on a top site that is one of hundreds.
One person as opposed to thousands per year that have their publicly available IP address harvested. Care to examine how many BT site owners have been discovered vs. how many scene site owners have been. You idiot.
The scene is run by people a HELL of a lot smarter than you’ll ever be so STFU about stuff you know nothing about.
Who the hell would want content on BT compared to http://FTP... BT is crap. Your so damn noob you have no idea whatsoever and it clearly shows with that comment..
@ post 37:
The scene will never embrace Bittorrent. That stuff is for window clicking nubs who simply want to watch the latest hollywood trash in the simplest manor.
The real scene guys do it for the fun of scripting, preing, racing, making handy new perl scripts, tcl scripts etc. Half of them never even use the stuff they trade.
FTP and IRC is the perfect place for that.
@28
“military grade encryption” with bitlocker? Dude you’ve gotta get yourself documented…n00b!
http://citp.princeton.edu/memory/
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@xXx_Gangztez_PriDE_xXx
ROTFLMAO!!!
@30: As if nobody would notice that the server suddenly starts responding and you can’t ssh into it anymore. I would guess that an elaborate network like the scene has redundancy and security measures for this kind of event. I for one would auto send messages from a proxy to all admins once one of my main servers get’s disconnected just for maintainance reasons. As soon as they realize the server is “gone” they can simply shut off or hide the other servers. I would believe they have automated scripts for that kind of stuff. These guys are very advanced nonetheless.
dude thats so llama.. i be like running mah topsight with like glftpd zipscript and sitechan on ai arr cee. these faggots have nooooo clue. ps i was in FLT CLASS DEViANCE back in tha good ol daze so i have bad ass experience. da kidsters today have neeeeeeeeeeeeeu kluuuuuuuuuuu
yea? I was in Razor1911 so stfu
“dude thats so llama”
…
Yeah? Well I was in Bentley Sidwell Productions, so beat that w@nker!
wow as harsh as the govs are starting to get about file sharing these days maybe this type of offense might carry a death sentence or life in prison. thank GOD not as yet but maybe someday soon if these IPFI/RIAA fanatics get their way…
but seriously i smell a rat… and i dont mean to piss anyone off here but since TPB is the most recent to be squeezed i would bet that would be the correct way to look for the leak. maybe that was the deal these guys struck to get 1/2 the charges dropped? these guys could very well have had all this knowledge about these guys… it also concerned me when these other 3 guys got busted for first releases right before the TPB trial… coincidence?
@49: so because they happened around the same time you think that they’re linked together. What other evidence do you have because th efact that they happend around the same time means precisly nothing.
Also what’s the point of saying “maybe it carries a life/death sentence” when there’s no evidence whatsoever of this being reality anywhere in the world?
Get off the cannabis dude or reign in that imagination, it’s affecting your ability to reason properly. I bet your the kind of person that sees conspiracies such as 911 and crap as well.
yoz doodz whoze gonna giv up reelE SCENER stuff to gangztez.plz i needz reele scener topsitez.plz dont be racziz 2 a burtha.i is windowz userz an i am up wit da windowz an internetz explorerz iz browzer of mine.cmon,helpz brutha out doodz!!!!!!!!
Affil list of the site is BiA DEFiNiTE DIMENSION NODLABS SAiNTS WtO ETH0 CHiCNCREAM AB PRAXiS SweC GC maVensupplieR CDDHD HiDEF gF mV4U MV mVa mVz
However the magority are still preing.
seriusly, if you are ’scene’ then you are not on here discussing stuff.
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wanker
“these guys can’t even figure out the technology …. ”
Obviously true. But if they can’t do that, how can they protect the data they have stored on me?
Why don’t they go after the identity thieves and charge them with fines and fees? That’s what makes them so lame.
This article is misinforming.
Most of the stuff that gets pred don’t make it outside topsites, many of them even don’t make it to other topsites from where it got pred. It’s because 70-80% of the content is mp3, 0day, ebook crap.
Damn, i’ve checked a log on the site i’m on and many releases don’t get leeched by no one.
This is simply because The Bay has pwned..
Antipiratbyrån just needs some more funding lol..
@39.. BT content is not crap considering a lot of it is from SCENE servers one way or another.
@35.. I would much rather be logged torrenting something then a direct download from any scene server.
“war on drugs” “war on terrorism” and now “war on piracy”, hmm don’t you SEE, we live in a globalized totalitarian police dictatorship !
Can I justsay thatit makes no difference to anything, we survive in a world were people always try and decide what we are and are not allowed to say/do,eat,wear etc.. but you know what, we do it anyways.
Anyone whos in the scene will know that 65 TB is so insignificant in the bigger picture. You gotta laugh at them for trying though. I think people should be a bit more careful as there are groups out there that have ststed quite rightly that they could prety much shut the internet down in 30 mins. I seem to even remember a group of hackers telling the american goverment the same thing, mess with us and we’ll mess with you.
But back to this bust, well yawn 65tb, its not even enough to upset anybody.
Go to hell scene noobs
TPB forever
@50
“Get off the cannabis dude or reign in that imagination, it’s affecting your ability to reason properly. I bet your the kind of person that sees conspiracies such as 911 and crap as well.”
and i suppose you are the type of person that believes there is no evil in this world? that there is no one out there that would treat someone cruelly or unjustly?
obviously you have allow ignorance to cloud your mind.
you are so artful with your words as if they are facts? my statement was purely speculation.
or maybe you believe these kids from TPB are internet gods? maybe they could not do this?
well i recall an issue back in the 80’s when the “scene” was getting started one of the larger hacking groups got busted and they ratted out like 2 or 3 others… but this did not come out till later when the other group members where in court having their trial and the rat was testifying against them. this type of thing happens all the time my friend…
LOL @ #59 !
Beg more for seeders freakin’ emo kid !
1 server only?… why do you people try to kill me with laughter? Jebus :D
“A great win against piracy” once again.
XD
This has to be the sh*ttest “Bust” I’ve ever seen..
One server must represent less than 0.0001% of piracy as a whole. Antipiratbyran suck twat at this game :P
“hate The Pirate Bay”……
Most Uploaders will understand them.
lol 62.
wtf is with this xXx_Gangztez_PriDE_xXx tw@?
As it has said many times 65TB of old releases, these are archieved.. They are not the latest stuff… and yh i can imagine that the majority of stuff doesn’t get leaked from the scene due to the obsurity of the item in question and how easy it would be to track back the leecher…
Racer’s (the people who spread the releases within the scene) will have specific jobs to do and are not always the ones leaking it… go around google some stuff and you will find people selling access to 0-sec FTP’s… people can buy access then leak the stuff…
This is a small raid and seeing as it an archieve it shouldn’t reduce the amount that we see on P2P…
yh secured FTP is probably the best thing ever.. espically a high meg self-signed certificate higher than that of online banking…
MeH
Mayhem excites Hell
You are all n33bs
isn’t the whole point of P2P that everyone gets the file, not a select group?
I feel sorry for the person the leaked the info if it was somebody from inside the scene.
@29
apparently truecrypt has a dangerous license: http://forum.soft32.com/linux2/licence-Truecrypt-ftopict249969.html
sharing will continue to grow rapidly despite opposition from greedy corporate nazi. who’s motive is extra money for nothing, not sharing for free.
sharing files is indestructible or unstoppable
long live torrent and p2p
free for all
leech as much as you like
give to the world and you shall receive as well
By forcing these giant trackers and ftp topsites offline they are just forcing users into smaller, more fragmented communities… which will be much harder to stop.
These Anti-piracy people are just screwing themselves. They don’t understand the technology and they are driven by ideology… a very disastrous combination of ignorance.
We’ll see who comes out on top.
Just think how much safer place the world would be in the police in countries like Sweden put as much effort into tackling serious crime as they do kissing the arse of the MPAA.
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Only a moron trolls a topic as serious as this.
Since you have asked twice in your pitiful punk ass way, [wannabe gangsters and real ones are insecure, uneducated cowards who try to prove pointless bs at the expense of others] Do you seriously think some one would give you anything? STFU. And by the way, learn how to communicate with a keyboard correctly. What is up with this Text lanuguage crap? are you 5 years old or something?
“isn’t the whole point of P2P that everyone gets the file, not a select group?”
For the last freakin time, listen carefully:
SCENE MAKES CONTENT, IS SECRET AND ALLOWS VERY LIMITED ACCESS – SCENE GETS BUSTED VERY RARELY DESPITE BEING A HIGHLY ORGANISED AND EFFECIENT COPYRIGHT CARTEL IN EFFECT. SCENE HATES P2P COS P2P IS PUBLIC AND HIGHLY INSECURE.
PEOPLE WHO RELEASE ON P2P GET BUSTED MANY, MANY MORE TIMES THAN PEOPLE WHO RELEASE IN SCENE – YET SCENE IS 100X MORE ORGANISED AND RELEASES THOUSANDS OF TIMES MORE CONTENT.
PEOPLE WHO MERELY USE P2P ARE BUSTED ALL THE TIME.
People in the scene dont want to share with everyone because it means being open to prosecution for potentially many years and millions of dollars. Its the P2P idiots that behave as though it’s perfectly legal… there’s a very small chance people get busted owing to numbers BUT IF YOUR IN THE SCENE WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT TO ROLL THE DICE WITH POTENTIAL PENALTIES LIKE THAT.
NOW STFU NOOBCAKES!
So are there no other crimes in Sweden? Like corrupt police and politicians?
@32
Don’t insult your superiors. Don’t forget *who* supplied you with material in the first place. Without the “scene” there wouldn’t be anything. Respect that.
You guys shouldn’t be dissin the scene. If anything you’re just jealous of what they have. They’re doing this all for you, so just shutup about how the scene is all bad and everything. I definitely support the scene, without all their hard work you wouldn’t have access to good high quality material, stuff released before it even hits stores.
@39
What does this have to with embracing new technology?
Obviously sceneters are sticking with proven secured protocols (ftp,irc) that work for them. That’s why they don’t get busted. With all this recent publicity, I don’t blame them for further going into hiding.
im a p2p man, not outta choice or anything but usenet is pricey and all that.found myself a nice priv tracker, only host scene stuff.
and it is excellent, to be honest i couldnt get a better service if i paid for stuff with a CC.
but for me, without warez and the sceners at large ‘leaking or sharing’the whole www protocol would be reduced to a shopping market, with pics of tits to keep you clicking.
so if your stupid enough to type ‘fcuk the scene’ you PROBABLY will get busted
“The scene will never embrace Bittorrent. That stuff is for window clicking nubs who simply want to watch the latest hollywood trash in the simplest manor.”
Elitist prick. Your attitude is what makes people in the scene seem like the world’s greatest douchebags.
“hey’re doing this all for you”
No, they’re not. If they had it THEIR way, no one at all would have access to their releases but themselves, and their group.
Anyways, no one would have a problem with the scene if they didn’t act like they were superior to everyone, constantly insulted everyone “below” them, and “below” their perceived intelligence.
Plus, have you seen the immature rivalries between some of these people, what the hell?
lol at all this talk about the scene…
there is no one scene!!!
there is many scenes per say… they dont work together the last time i checked so everyones idea of what the scene is is different… the “Scene” was actually originally for pc games and apps only… later included other goodies… movies xbox games psx games,tv rips you name it just about anything that can be put into digital format today is all part of the scene… there is even scene wannabees.. but guess what you ppl that call some of these ppl wannabees they are part of it if they are making releases no matter how crappy they may be… there is many parts just go to a nfo site and you will see all the dif scenes… each group is in itself its own scene.. the whole premises or idea of a scene is to see who can rip what first… its not about sharing… sharing is a secondary thought for most scene… but some scene groups out there now a days esp tv rips are all about the share… you can tell me no the scene is this or the scene is that but guess what it is all that… the only true scene is about competition who rips what first.
That’s very true. Speaking of different scenes…
The anime scene is very “Social” and sharing. Mostly because the legal hammer doesn’t hit them as hard for being more public, I figure.
THOUGH, a few fansubbing groups (cough cough datebayo(sp?) are ran by jerks.
Poor scene kids, judging from the comments still upset that it isn’t as cool anymore now that everyone can be, and is, doing it…
[quote]People in the scene dont want to share with everyone because it means being open to prosecution for potentially many years and millions of dollars. Its the P2P idiots that behave as though it’s perfectly legal…[quote]
That’s big risks for distributing hollywood blockbusters and other sh*t for free.
Open letter to the holders of said copyrighted material. Everyone hates you. Mettlica and u2 batman and watchman. Your movies and music will take a hit becauses of your actions and people everywere will and are moving away from your antaquated products. Linux 4 life
There are three kinds of people in life, those who can count and those who can’t.
Imagine what could be created by all this “leet skill” if applied to creating value rather than peddling shite created by Hollywood.
It seems that what many commenters here do not understand is that BitTorrent is easily traceable, it isn’t encrypted and only an apparent “loophole” in the law is what keeps them from killing the tracker (like tbp) while all the leeches could be shut down if only the ISP’s wanted to.
On the other hand, what the smart people use is what starts with the letter ’s’, for example ssl+irc, ssl+ftp (could be fsp, or a privately developed protocol we wouldn’t even be aware of), and in addition – connection tracking is made hard by bouncers or anonymity networks (tor is a good example).
Now if the laws were a bit more reasonable, we propably wouldn’t even have anything like this at all. In the .su times, “Art belongs to the people” was a slogan frequently recited, and copyright was rather more of an ethical nature. A matter of honour.
Seed, Seed, Seed!!! That is what this is all about people. The foundation of “Torrents” is to “PASS IT ALONG”. Kinda like a blunt, take what you need and share it with others. If you do this, you make friends and the data remains strong acrossed the net
I remember when the scene was just 0day utils and games rips. Since then it has really gone down hill. It’s so bloated and lame with all the hollywood movies, tv shows, console, music videos and other useless crap that attracts so much teenagers and noobs. I wish it would go back to just pc soft :(
i seriously doubt this will even slow down the scene.. tho i do hope they had a good admin… this is a perfect reason to run everything in ram….
god i love drac cards…
52 Mar 07, 2009 at 09:33 by chet
“wow as harsh as the govs are starting to get about file sharing these days maybe this type of offense might carry a death sentence or life in prison. thank GOD not as yet but maybe someday soon if these IPFI/RIAA fanatics get their way…
but seriously i smell a rat… and i dont mean to piss anyone off here but since TPB is the most recent to be squeezed i would bet that would be the correct way to look for the leak. maybe that was the deal these guys struck to get 1/2 the charges dropped? these guys could very well have had all this knowledge about these guys… it also concerned me when these other 3 guys got busted for first releases right before the TPB trial… coincidence?”
CORRECT they might use the rat to testify against TPB
this is a bit off topic but i would like to share some info that is true and most be done.
A. it does not hurt anyone to share movies and music ( and others).
B. even if you buy a nice copy of any software,or anyone wants a copy for there own needs except to make profit your safe. so fear and intimidation from these hi profile company’s like Sony, w.b.,E.A ARTS, etc.
are bull shit because the law was not really over look by the people behind close doors which need to be over turn. also what the gov, establishment,artist,record labels , and the movie industry fear losing there profits . absolute bull shit because if your my friend and wanna go to his crib, copy any data (movie, music, etc) does not breaking any laws so your not doing anything wrong. any of us in here can go out buy or copy to copy (share) is not wrong anyone may disagree but if you do your lying to yourself….
either way they can not stop us on or offline.
wont stop period .
if more laws being pass sponsors by lobbyist on closed door they will have a big prob with the people and by the people. if everyone write to political dogs , protest and demand to follow the people what they want to the core they have no other way to leave it alone because it will hurt political dogs .not only that it will hurt every one. we are the masters and they are our servant not the other way around.
i may respect some copyright laws only the ones that you have to ask permission to distribute that’s it
its very complex.
sorry for my writing .
Quote text: Pontén said that his organization will continue its “war on piracy.”
Does this mean that war has been declared by the Swedish anti-piracy bureau?
100! First of all, the scene did not “start” on the Internet. Find out some history.
Second, the sceners truly are elitist. They even call themselves the elite. Everyone else is “lame”.
Please ban NubCakes. He is the stupidest moron on this site and I’ve had it with his idiotic shit.
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