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Law Firm Puts In Mysterious Offer To Buy Leading Torrent Sites

The Winnipeg-based law firm Thompson Dorfman Sweatman LLP has put in offers to acquire several of the largest BitTorrent sites on behalf of an unnamed client, TorrentFreak has learned. Although the true source behind the offers has not been officially confirmed, all leads point to a familiar name.

mysteryWith millions of visitors per day, the leading BitTorrent sites are valuable properties. Although none of the big sites have been sold publicly, most of them are easily worth a million dollars.

In recent history quite a few medium-sized torrent sites have changed owners, but these were all deals done within the torrent community, none were conducted in the open.

The first time that an outsider went public with plans to buy a torrent site was last year when Global Gaming Factory (GGF) made a $7.8 million offer for The Pirate Bay, and a $25 million offer to buy Mininova. GGF planned to legalize the sites and turn them into media portals where movies and music would be sold with approval from copyright holders.

Most readers probably recall that the deals with the two largest torrent sites at the time didn’t go through due to funding issues. However, last month GGF CEO Hans Pandeya popped up again, this time with an offer for the largest semi-private BitTorrent community Demonoid. Apparently, he had not yet abandoned his plans.

Demonoid’s owner told TorrentFreak that he was not interested in anything GGF had to offer, so Pandeya had to target other sites to carry out his plans. Interestingly enough, a few days after Demonoid rejected Pandeya’s offer, the Canadian law firm Thompson Dorfman Sweatman LLP contacted several other larger torrent sites with similar offers.

In their correspondence the solicitors claim to be working for a U.S. based corporation that is interested in acquiring the assets of the sites in question. The identity of the potential buyer is not disclosed, but considering the timing it wouldn’t be strange if it turned out to be GGF CEO Hans Pandeya.

Torrent sites don’t often get offers from external parties, except the ones from GGF we discussed above. If Pandeya is indeed behind the offer, it would make sense for him to make his approach using the cover of a law firm due to the bad reputation he has built up among torrent site owners.

The torrent sites that have been approached prefer not to be named, but they are among the most visited on the Internet, which is in line with Pandeya’s plans. The only thing that’s different this time is the money being offered. Unlike the millions of dollars that were thrown around previously, the current offers are at the lower end of the scale.

None of the torrent sites that were contacted are interested in selling, so it is likely that we might never know the truth about the mysterious buyer or if he has connections to GGF.

Hans Pandeya was contacted for a comment, but didn’t want to respond on the record.

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  • Anonymous

    illuminati!

  • Reaki

    Ok whats the point of buying any torrent tracker just to turn it into a legal shop? 90% of people who use them will just go elsewhere and those stupid 9% would just give up… 1% may buy something, but those people are propably rich enough so they dont really have any reason to frequent such places.

  • Jackie

    ^agree
    +theirs no point in buying something and shutting down 99% of services it offers

  • Anonymous

    Torrent site owners won’t sell.
    They make thousands of $ per day.

    It’s a steady income, based on the free work of others of course.

  • cracktro additctro

    why why why is the stupidity of the stupid so rarely self-evident???

    give up.. for YEARS things have been advertised in bold print as FREE. but when you read the fine print it truly is not free, as there is always a catch (read: lie). it had come to the point that we all accepted that nothing was ‘free’, as it turned out that EVERYTHING the word free was attached to was also attached to a ‘hook’ or a scam.. something misleading…

    Now, in the glorious years of the enlightened partaking of something which truly is free, in only ONE aspect, there is an uproar about it that never seems to go away… its tiresome.. but i plan on taking advantage of it at every opportunity…

    and even this isnt free because i had to buy a computer, internet, and HDDs.. so ONE cost related to entertainment has been remedied, and there are still many others.. but still the uproar and continued faux-shock/dismay…

    hehe commence DLing operations…forever.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, it’s not hard to figure out who is probably behind this.

  • bling blings crack pipe

    Are these only public sites that are getting these offers or are they private sites also?

  • lee

    Truthfully, a legal entity could make huge fortunes honeypotting the organized crime media and wipo factions with legal public operations, and wait for a flurry of false claims to counter.

  • enema

    Surely he will DRINK from the fountain of lawless buying of stated remains. The day will come when you ALL must repent for the buying of that which you cannot repay. Download all you want, you must rejoinder in the reality of all of this! Do you think you can escape? Of course you do, but only because you do not understandificate!

  • Bob

    It’s probably Hollywood. If you can’t beat them, BUY them. :)

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    gawd i’m sick of freedom vpn using this blog as his own billboard…go away!!!

  • Anonymous

    obvious hans pandeya is obvious…

  • Anonymous

    freedom vpn suckes

  • The Terminator

    You got me at Hans Pandeya :P

    The unrelenting Hans strikes back for the third time.
    And this time he, for sure, will (…wait for it….) FAIL.

  • Trump

    Could be trap to find who runs sites

  • Kirkpad

    If it’s a Canadian law firm, you can bet one of the offers was toward isoHunt

  • Bairradino

    - Buy leading torrent sites

    - Collect user info

    - Sue heavy users

    - PROFIT…

    (repeat until more profit)

  • Super epic fail

    Freedom VPN, more hated on TF than the MAFIAA

    Congrats, that’s some frickin achievement

  • Anonymous

    Though I do believe there is some profit probably being made by these sites, I don’t think its in the 1,000′s a day lmao

    If these sites were running for profit then an offer of a few million would make them sell surely.

    I believe that this is just more evidence that this is sharing & not selling/stealing. The people behind these sites have to have some monetary income to be able to provide the sites (for those unaware servers cost money & multiple servers cost more lol) & the fact they’ve turned down the undisclosed amounts speaks volumes that essentially these are good people who are showing that sharing is caring.

    I for one do not begrudge them any profit’s from donations or advertising so long as it doesn’t get stupid like the major corporations charge for films, music & games.

    The major corporations need to embrace the new distribution methods & accept they are going to make less profit BUT its going to cost them less too so will balance out.

    Invest the yearly anti piracy funds into developing a worldwide, fair priced & good quality equivalent to file sharing & you may be surprised.

    £1/$1/€1 to watch the latest movie in good quality available on same day worldwide.

    Full back catalogues available for £1/$1/€1 on demand whenever wherever.

    Of course there would be other things to work out too. Want to own the film? Then that will cost £2/$2/€2 on top of the already paid £1/$1/€1 to burn yourself or £4/$4/€4 on top of the £1/$1/€1 & you’ll receive a hard copy via the post.

    These are just generalised figures & would need research etc but hey its an idea on where you could direct your anti piracy funding constructively instead of destructively.

  • layerbakes

    @1 what does the illuminati have to do with this?

  • Zwiebelgesicht

    I can’t really see an honest reason to buy a torrentsite.
    It’s not hard to start a new one from scratch.
    If they are willing to pay several thousands for it or even millions,
    they already can afford the hardware required as well.

    I can however see many reasons why someone who does’nt
    have the communities best intrest at heart would.

  • Reasoned Mind

    Hi, I am back!

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  • SirReal

    @21 Haha I have no idea what he was getting at, but it sure beats “FIRST!!”

  • lulz

    @24 Yep, it does.

    @Freedom VPN. You are totally a MAFIAA sheep, it’s self evident. Go away!

    @The rest. Ponder perhaps the accepting of a monetary offer to purchase the “business” would be the hammer, nails, and lid for the coffin of a lawsuit? Proves they are profiting from “piracy”. I’m betting this guy is a front man.

  • Anonymous

    These sites might have millions of visits but they are not making any money. Also most of them are not really legally owned by anyone in particular.

    Ok. Now a corporation of parasite buy one. then what? everyone will move to another site.

    If the corporation of parasites where to buy all of them, it does not prevent people from starting new sites or to switch to other protocol such as eDonkey.

    In any case I hope that by now the corporate parasites understand that nothing is going to make us go back and buy their stuff again.

    Nothing! it is way too late.

    Meanwhile let’s continue the boycott. No CD, no DVD no download and no movie theater.

  • by Reasoned Mind

    Hi, I am back too!

  • Seasoned Mind

    So am I :D

    Also, at first I didn’t see why people would be against corporations buying torrents sites (since they would fail anyway, and thus losses for them). But at the person that said that they would get our info if the sites in question were sold, I think they sites owners are smart enough to delete the user’s data, to protect them.

  • Hans Panda Poop

    @ 28

    I’m back too and buying the internets!

  • Anonymous

    “Torrent site owners won’t sell.
    They make thousands of $ per day.”

    Proof, idiot?

    Yup. That’s what I thought.

  • cracktro addictro

    @27 “…and no downloads…” <—wth? ummm yeahno. im pretty sure that im gonna keep DLing stuff, if for no other reasons than to offset the regret i feel over the massive amounts of money i have blindly thrown to the entertainment 'industry', and then theres the pissing off of the straight-laced corporate buffoons…

    ahh…contentedness.

  • Joey Joe Joe

    You people really don’[t get why they did this.

    It is to give the sites a VALUE so that when they are sued their can be claims the the site is worth x dollars over cost and thus makes a profit on copyright infringement.

  • Anonymous

    They seem to be a total disconnection between capitalism and internet these days.

    All these corporate people who thing erroneously that these torrent sites are for profit corporations are realy funny.

    it is like hearing Carry Sherman who say that he can not believe that someone would do something for free.

    No wonder the entire industry is thanking now.

  • Monster

    As #1 said what he is trying to do is pointless, either he is too stupid to realise this or he is untruthfull about his intents.

    I suppose he could just be trying to buy them to shut them down, but that is more or less the same thing as he wants to do anyway.

    Really….when was the last time you visited MiniNova?

    I know I go there occasionally, but only when the part of my brain that knows not to go there anymore is asleep. :P

  • Freedom VPN

    Disregard that, I suck cocks.

  • Bruno

    If I owned one of these sites I’d definitely sell. With the cash I could open at least a couple more alike, improve the thing and still donate or invest the money in other file-sharing causes.

    Funny, it would be for the ppl buying like funding their own nightmares

  • ccc

    I wonder how GGF still exist without money

  • Anonymous

    @35

    Jerkcity FTW.

  • Freedom VPN

    Fack your maddurr!! (asian accent)

  • MeepMeep

    Nr. 30 : Proof ?

    The former paypalaccounts of Alan Ellis.

  • Canadian Pirate 4 Life

    (Yawn) Of course nothing is really going to happen. The world will keep spinning, dogs will keep barking, and I’ll keep pillaging. They may hit us with some cannonballs, but they’ll never sink our ship. Ahoy!!!! Land Ho!!!

  • Freedom VPN

    @36

    And get sued for profiting copyright infringement, you forgot that part.

  • ScytheNoire

    I’m sure someone else pointed it out, but it’s all to do an extortion scheme. Buy private tracker, get info on users with history, send “pay or else” letters, collect extortion money.

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  • Ettore

    Any site stupid enough to sell would be shooting themselves in the foot. It’s not like they’re going to get paidvia a swiss bank account or something; their identity would have to be revealed. Once that haoppens, you would have a monetary value and identity of oeone knowingly facilitating infringement. Your money would be gone, and so would a lot more.

    Isohunt is probably one of the only one that is worth anything, since it’s technically legal to do what they do in Canada.

  • Barse

    I think they should sell and go and do something else. It’s not every day that you can get access to such a big pile of cash.

  • me

    #44 Ettore is absolutely right: the money of every legal transaction would immediately get soaked up by the MAFIAA cartel, so there’s no point in selling.

    However, a shady deal WILL get paid in cash, via some hart-to-track intermediaries. make no mistake about that: it happens all the time in real (business) life.

  • Anonymous

    thepiratebay name itself would probably worth more than 10 million imo

  • Site Owner

    If they offered me a nice sum of cash for my site, I don’t see why not. Just clear the IP and e-mail tables of the database before handover and start up again a new site at a new URL.

  • CommonSense

    1. Pay 1 million for a torrent community
    2. Sue all users of newly acquired community.
    3. ???
    4. Profits in excess of 1 mil

    I guess if you can’t get the law to step in to shut down a site, option 2 is buy em out and take each user to court. Just sayin.

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  • nona

    Once again this proves the power of money…to hell with this society, it’s corrupted from head to toes(wish we could live in an utopian free world )

  • Ninja

    I lol’d. Hopefully the owners won’t even pay attention to this stunt.

  • Phoenix

    can’t fight them? then buy them !

  • Quartz

    This sounds to me as if those being contacted are simply being contacted to identify them for possible legal assualt, the feds favourite tricks all involve luring potential stool pigeons with generous offerings that turn out to be a poison pill, dont even talk to these lawyers, stay safe and stay secure.

  • Dinosaur

    Maybe i’m getting to old but most everything offered by the entertainment industry isn’t even worth downloading for free.

    Do they not understand that people that download wouldn’t buy their product anyway? No, they just see it as lost revenue. Why are these corporations allowed to count their chickens before they hatch?

    Most people gross less income now than in the past due to inflation. If there was no illegal downloading the corporations would still see sales reduced compared to the pre-google days probably to the same current figures.

    Time for a change…

  • Anonymous

    #53 Totally agree. It is probably a honeypot made to identify the people behind the torrent sites. Stay away. Do not even respond to their letters.

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