Lily Allen Deletes Pro-Copyright Blog and Ends Career
Written by Ernesto on September 24, 2009Yesterday it was revealed that, despite her calls for tougher anti-piracy legislation, Lily Allen herself created illicit mixtapes full of copyrighted music and made them available to the public. Today, after having rationalized why it is okay for her to pirate music, she killed her pro-copyright blog because “the abuse was getting too much.”
In a few dozen articles on her new blog, Lily Allen complained how illegal file-sharing is bankrupting the music industry. Unfortunately for her she forgot to remove some of her old mixtapes from LilyAllenMusic.com, which revealed that she’s not the saint she claimed to be.
However, just a few hours after we posted the article, Lily explained that she’s not a pirate but simply didn’t know any better.
“I made those mixtapes 5 years ago, I didn’t have a knowledge of the workings of the music industry back then…,” she responded.
What she probably meant to say is that she had no clue about copyright before her income depended on it. Yet, she believes that every other person on this planet should know better, or get their Internet access cut off. Way to go girl.
In fact, the old Lily from 5 years ago is not too different from the hundreds and thousands of casual file-sharers today. Copyright is a complex issue and the boundaries between right/wrong and illegal/legal are not always that clear. Instead of waging a war against file-sharers on the blog she could have tried to pass her knowledge about copyright on to the public.
She chose to make it a soundboard for frustrated artists instead, which only resulted in negative reactions from the public up to a point where Lily couldn’t take it anymore. Indeed, TorrentFreak read one posting on the site which had in excess of 100 comments – only 4 of which supported the singer’s position.
“I’ve shut down the blog, the abuse was getting too much,” she explained on Twitter a few minutes after she announced the end of her legendary music career.
Just before she pulled the blog she wrote “I will not make another record,” adding “The days of me making money from recording music has been and gone as far as I’m concerned, so I don’t stand to profit from [anti-piracy] legislation.”
There are a lot of lessons to be learned from the debate Lily inflamed over the last week. While there seemed to be an endless stream of rich musicians willing to complain on behalf of bands we’ve never heard of with “we aren’t suffering, they are” statements, there were also huge numbers of music fans who were more than a little reluctant to be lectured by well-off superstars on the issue.
But most prominent were those vehemently opposed to UK plans to disconnect alleged infringers from the Internet. The abuse that Lily spoke of on her blog largely wasn’t directed at her, but at these plans and her support for them. Think again Mr Mandelson.
Previously: Lily Allen Pirates Music, Is Clueless About Copyright
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270 Responses
I had to lol
Self-owned!
It’s almost funny to see how good people are at ruining their own careers….
Epic. Just awesome.
she’ll be just fine and if she quits over people not liking her blog she should rethink that idea. If you love music you’ll put up with the bullshit just like the fans do to get what you love.
She has made things worse! No one will want to buy her music now.
All I can say is, thank you for quitting, bitch.
Lily was spouting off in the Sun newspaper again today about filesharing, i read the 1st paragraph and thought to my self c00l st0ry br0.. then dozed off to sleep
and that lady on torrentfreak ad>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
really looks like Kat von D
“I don’t stand to profit from [anti-piracy] legislation”
well that pretty much sums up the whole issue right there! These people only want this legislation because they know they can make money from such legislation
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c28/geko546/selfown.jpg
After all this… Lily Allen, who?!
she got her ass handed to her and doesn’t want to play anymore :(
anyway Lily Savage was always better than Lily Allen :|
LOL!
“didn’t have a knowledge of the workings of the music industry back then”
keep digging that hole Lils… and prove your undoubted dumbness as you do it.
If you want to see the last posts she posted go to the site and sub to the RSS feed, it will still push all the post to your reader.
I still don’t have any idea who this chick is. I mean, I understand that she’s a singer or some sort of musician or something. Is she a UK-only person? I’ve never heard her music. I’ve never seen her face. I’ve never heard a title of her album or songs. I have no idea what type of music she sings/plays/whatever.
Second, I checked out her “blog” yesterday and saw that at least 98% of the hundreds of comments were *against* her point of view and they were all polite and well thought out. So by “abuse” I guess she means the same thing as a lot of spoiled brats (especially chicks) do. That is, they can’t compete with your sound argument or point of view, so they start shifting the subject from “I’m stupid and you’re trampling all over me with your reasonable argument” to “you’re a big mean bully and mistreating me cuz i’m just a poor defenseless little girl!”.
Third… did she actually even HAVE a career? Again, like I said, I’ve never fucking heard of this chick.
When I first got wind of her anti piracy moan the other morning on BBC news i thought it was a bit rich coming from her. After all she was one of the first internet famous UK music artists thanks to the users on MySpace at the time.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying that all web users are pirates but a lot are – and thus she shouldn’t piss these people off!
As a result I hope this self Fail is aired far and wide!
Who’s Lily Allen?
interesting statement considering your article about that ‘famous’ Swedish rockstar. Whatever it takes, right E?
“While there seemed to be an endless stream of rich musicians willing to complain on behalf of bands we’ve never heard of with “we aren’t suffering, they are” statements, there were also huge numbers of music fans who were more than a little reluctant to be lectured by well-off superstars on the issue.”
So here’s the deal:
I THINK ITS QUITE OVIOUS is the new INTERNET MEME
seeding:
http://bayimg.com/jaEeDAAcb
Please deliver.
Thanks
“…after she announced the end of her legendary music career.”
Epic Win. Cracked me up.
And lol, she’s even more stupid than her music suggests. Pathetic.
I don’t even know who this is!
At least Lars, I knew who he was. I haven’t bought (or otherwise obtained) a Metallica album since he came out against Napster, but the guy stuck to his guns and the band is still doing fine. I really do respect that, even if I’m spending my money on Nine Inch Nails and independent artists these days.
This deserves a new chapter in the history of modern music: “Artists Whose Career Ended Due to Own Stupidity”.
@ Lily
We own all your base :D
…Steal music AND kill the artist
E needs an MRI scan
The woman is a self centred ignorant b***h.
She made a statement that artsists would no longer be able to tour because of illegal downloading, of course as we all know music tours are a total non-profit business ? IDIOT IDOT IDOT and good riddance.
So known file shearing “criminal” Lily Allen quits and runs … Boo Hoo how sad!
Sorry to say Silly Lily your music will not be missed but I guess you have a plan.
1/ Dump the music after gaining publicity and some sympathy for how you were savagely exposed as being the same type of “criminal” you said you were against by those nasty nasty people that told you the truth.
2/ Move to stage / Film / TV, whatever you can get taking with you the few supporters the above has given you along with whatever fans your last job brought … If you have not driven them all away
3/ Bum around taking anything that pays for a few years but not really caring so long as you see your name in the press once or twice a month.
4/ Return to music with a come back album and score big time by using remixed old stuff, allowing you to suck as much from the fans as you can for as little as possible.
Tell me that’s not the plan.
Just remember to keep your old work in the downloads while you are away so you won’t be forgotten.
MASSIVE IMPLOSION!!
“I will not make another record,” – great – everyone wins :)
This is a failure at so many levels. The industry needs to gather up and come up with some coordinated efforts, because now with such failed attempts at fighting piracy they are entertaining me FOR FREE, something they really don’t like to do.
what an idiot. HAHAHAHA
It’s time to CELEBRATE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTXQFEdXTiQ
until next battle,
It’s a shame, I do own her two albums, was looking forward to the third :( She’s been stupid doesn’t mean she should stop making music.
Who the crap is Lily Allen??
You’ve been pawned, EMI whore!
I THINK ITS QUITE OVIOUS that this is epis self-own fail. Who makes a page about this on Encyclopedia Dramatica and spams it a bit on 4chan? :D
I lol’ed at the article, and then at the self-owning baby! :D
And nothing of value was lost.
Waaah!!! I’m taking my ball and going home!
Well fuck you very very much Lily
a whole day without a tpb post , this must be a record and celebrated
There are a lot of lessons to be learned from the debate Lily inflamed over the last week.
For example, if you’re a talentless, clueless, ugly freak, you need to GTFO my internets and should not be making music.
Who is Lily Allen?
I’ve never heard of this person.
Oops, did we all piss her off?. I was the one who directly posted the comments on her blog asking why she made the mixtapes available illegally on her music website, after you guys and Techdirt broke the story about her being one of the very pirates she accuses others of being. Surprised none of you other guys got in there first.
I am maybe one of the lucky ones, I can afford to legally buy the music I want (which isn’t much, 90% these days is crap) but I wasn’t going to be lectured by some tart of the music industry and her rantings and Lord Mandy’s proposals would well lead to mass apying on internet users and just isn’t on. Next target, Lord Mandy himself :)
i loled
Just… EPIC!
lily allen had “success” because her directing father was able to finance the viral campaign on mySpace.
lily allen stole music her entire life.
this is a good day for any music enthusiast.
PLEASE DO IT !
“I THINK ITS QUITE OVIOUS that this is epis self-own fail. Who makes a page about this on Encyclopedia Dramatica and spams it a bit on 4chan? :D”
A fine fine piece of work torrentfreak, a hypocrite exposed, more profile to the download debate AND no more Lily Allen tunes.
I hope the “Abuse” quote doesn’t go unchallenged as most of what I read on her blog was either ‘reasoned debate’ or ‘fact’ as she is a hypocrite by anyone’s definition of the word.
OMG this freaking rocks.
Thank you OP – you are a god.
Without music and sharing we will have no inspiration to create.
My mind is too gleeful to come up with a decent flame for her.
Awesome – just wow.
+1 internetz for everyone in thread.
LOL … musicians sould stick to making music …
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1215725/Lily-Allen-declares-quitting-music-career-acting.html
Lily Allen Ragequits, morelike.
And thus the “Lilly Allen”-defense was born:
Sorry judge, “I didn’t have a knowledge of the workings of the music industry back then…”
Abuse? Embarrassing yourself in public with a torrent of ignorance and a web of misinformation is “abuse”? Even in defeat she makes no sense.
On Twitter today she said: ‘There is a meeting today in London where artists are meeting to discuss Piracy. my job done.
‘I wont be attending the meeting because it’s going to be a press frenzy and i don’t want to detract from the issues
‘I’m proud of the fact that that I’ve been involved with this debate but I’m passing the baton on to other artists.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1215725/Lily-Allen-declares-quitting-music-career-acting.html#ixzz0S1yurgQY
Major Fu*king Self Own!
I see the UK Press ie Telegraph are out to make Techdirt the bad guy
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6226690/Lily-Allen-drops-fight-against-filesharing -after-Techdirt-spat.html
Selective quoting there a little i think
Thanks to her tantrum blog, I managed to put some rational points across which I hope other ‘anti-sharing’ musicians also managed to read before she decided that debate doesn’t work if you can’t control who has a say!
I did find some fellow independent musicians on there who are producing some really good stuff and have true progressive ideas about their music distribution (something we have in common), and I’ve just now bought an album from one of them for a very reasonable price, which their licensing allows me to make copies of to spread around just so long as I don’t try to sell it… the way it SHOULD be with filesharing.
Ultimately when I pass their music on to all my friends they’ll suddenly find they instantly have a few hundred new fans from just the one sale. And I’d definitely want to see them if they gig near me.
Oh, and go get yourself a copy of their album, it’s really quite rather slightly good on the sly – they’re called the Stately Homes Of England.
http://www.statelyhomesofengland.com
Does anybody have ReasonedMind’s email address so I can send him/her/them a copy? LOL
This is amusing. She destroyed her own career while trying to destroy piracy which is currently destroying her career.
Some musicians are just plain dumb.
Lily’s clumsy handling of complicated issues has been as entertaining and hilarious as it has been tragic and painfully sad. It’s a very broad playing field out there, and the rules are only just now beginning to be established. But a few things are clear.
The FAC has united in their opposition to piracy, failing consensus only on the proper response to it.
The FAC is also fragmenting along these lines, with another artist’s manager resigning today in protest that government is not moving quickly or decisively enough.
And government is listening. The FAC meets tonight to try to “hammer out” a unified reply to piracy because the one thing they all agree on is that it is wrong and hurts artists as well as helps them in some cases.
As Lily pulled the plug on her blog she Twittered “my job is done.”
And if the FAC has finally been compelled by her actions to forge consensus tonight, thereby giving guidance and support to the official government response and actually being the catalyst to real change?……..guess what.
She’d be right.
Claiming to not know the law is never a defense that works.
lol, useless james (the sad prick) blunt….next hahaha. Take the lazy f**kers down
reasoned mind maybe you should also follow in her footsteps, eh?
And nothing of value was lost.
Great — Elton John next.
Must be hard to hate on piracy when your sat so far up your own ass on the piles of money you’ve made… oh wait, isn’t piracy supposed to be taking money out off your dinner plate?
fuck off man, go get daddy to give you some more money. After all, he’s got enough to piss it up the wall on a gold tooth.
Must be hard to hate on piracy when your sat so far up your own ass on the piles of money you’ve made… oh wait, isn’t piracy supposed to be taking money out off your dinner plate?
fu ck off man, go get daddy to give you some more money. After all, he’s got enough to piss it up the wall on a gold tooth.
Sounds like a media zombie to me. They own her and her mind. (I guess that is the point to imaginary property)
How can one digg themselves into such a mess within the space of a week?
and when she gets into ‘acting’, will we be lectured by this ‘artist’ about how file-sharing is destroying the movie industry? We await….
hahahah lolz the next time she opens her mouth we pirates fire a bigger rocket to close it :D
I still think the best option for the pirates to do when someone “speaks up” against it is to keep fucking quiet. The more widespread the authorities think it is, the more opportunity there is for someone to make a name for themselves by going agsint us.
Head down, walk on. Keep schtum. You wouldn’t walk into a shop, steal a DVD, and then on your way out inform everyone now would you?
oh dear. i mean, i hate lily allen as much as the next sane person, but this is just an attention seeking gesture so (less than intelligent) people come back to her screaming “oh please make more music – we love you lily”.
an annoying marketing strategy that will probably work.
I still think the best option for the pirates to do when someone “speaks up” against it is to keep quiet.
The more widespread the authorities think the “problem” is, the more opportunity there is for someone to make a name for themselves by going against us.
Head down, walk on. Keep schtum. You wouldn’t walk into a shop, steal a DVD, and then on your way out inform everyone now would you?
Wow.. First she shouts her opinions, and when she realizes pretty much everyone is smarter than her, she runs home and locks herself in her room?
That sure takes me back to the playgrounds.
Retarded, infant little shit.
Although, her flipping her pudgy little finger while drunk in every tabloid cover should have made me realize that way earlier.
“What she probably meant to say is that she had no clue about copyright before her income depended on it.”
CLASSIC!!! LOL
Hi Reasoned Mind
You are totally right in what you say is and will probably happen, they have the money and the bribes to get what they want …. but I would ask do you think it is right ..? is it proportionate …? will it hit real criminals or just soft targets..?
Don’t you think its about time the music people and government spent time on real crime that truly hurts real people.
Don’t you think it is time that the music industry was made to clean up its act before it was allowed to victimise individuals..?
Don’t you think the music industry would be better off going after the major counterfeiters (criminal gangs) that sell knock off DVD’s and CD’s in every town in the UK rather than chase 1 kid in his bedroom downloading a few track for fun.
How about the music industry forcing drug using artists to give up their dealers to the police, How many would that save..?
How about the government allowing the copyright to run only until the artist committed a crime, then they would lose all protection forever..? Don’t you think that would improve things..? the police seize the assets of normal criminals why should they get off.
Sadly while all of the above maybe true, we all know it could never happen … The ones with the money and politicians would find it inconvenient.
So next time you think about the morality of sharing just remember there are worse people out there in the industry and government that would rather protect criminal syndicates and people that destroy life’s rather than do anything for Joe public
Awww, Now Lily has made Retarded Mind sad…
HOPE I HELPED
http://donthelpnewartists.blogspot.com/2009/09/boo-hoo-people-share-things.html
HOPE I HELPED
HOPE I HELPED
HOPE I HELPED
HOPE I HELPED
http://donthelpnewartists.blogspot.com/2009/09/boo-hoo-people-share-things.html
HOPE I HELPED
HOPE I HELPED
HOPE I HELPED
OMG …. that is soo sad and funny at the same time
I would never have even heard of Lily Allen or given her album a chance if it weren’t for filesharing. Her and James Blunt are crazy. Good article.
the url changed
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6226690/Lily-Allen-drops-fight-against-filesharing-after-Techdirt-spat.html
We lost too much with her new decision.
I really would like she continued to fight against(?) file sharing. She was our better soldier. hauhauhauahaua.
@ 71 Joe public
Dont bother asking Reasoned Mind questions.
1. He never responds to valid arguments because he either cant answer them or thinks he is above you since you don’t speak in his manner.
2. He technically acts like everyone else, he makes claims and puts them across as facts with no references, evidence or even theory. He loves to just say ‘this is going to happen..’ with nothing to back it up.
3. He never has anything to say when TF uncovers horrible truths about the industry, or he pathetically tries to justify it with bogus points that don’t really have anything to do with the subject.. but seems to convince himself that it does.
4. He loves to point out the fact that ‘pirates’ are but a small minority of the population yet he still thinks that his comments are significant. If file sharing was such a small thing.. then why would he be here.
5. He contradicts himself quiet often in the long run and fails to acknowledge it when someone points it out.
6. His comments have no real point or meaning when you get down to it.. he loves to make his little side point and run away, then act like he is better then everyone else.
Do yourself a favor and don’t engage him even though you think you can have an intelligent argument. Your wasting your time.
Damn. No more titty shots on wwtdd.com then.
Put this everywhere, specially on 4chan’s /b/
http://bayimg.com/jaEeDAAcb
Thanks Dude
Maybe if he does not like the truth he will join Lily
Maybe it is Lily …?
I hadn’t heard of her before TF started reporting and she is already dead. Where is the book that said lilies last for a long time :P
http://www.statelyhomesofengland.com
i see they have mistaken Reasoned Mind as a file-sharer
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KHQDslF5uo0/SrfLm8hWdRI/AAAAAAAAACg/Vp91jjk4c1U/s1600-h/mullet-head-file-sharer.jpg
looking good mate
What a disappointment. No more music from Lily. What a shame. NOT! Who cares Lily? nobody.
Ms Allen was right,”Humanity is corrupt”!
For once, someone has decided to stand up against the horde and they have effectively been punished for doing so.
Just forget for one minute about her being hypocritcal. Alot has changed in five years wether people will admit it or not.
So she made a mistake and her excuse, quite frankly, wasn’t the best in the world. But she doesn’t deserve to be draged down to the level that people now perceive her from. Everyone deserves a second chance.
Look i have no knowledge at all in the ways of the copyright system, but even i can see that Lily is trying to help and she should be supported no matter what has happened in her past.
It may have cost her, her career, but finally someone with some guts has got the little stones rolling that will soon trigger the avalanche.
No matter what these self-righteous hypocrits say, i for one, am proud of you for trying. They say the star that shines brightest, shines half as long. I just wish that this star had shone a little longer.
Her blog entry read: ‘Just so you know, I have not renegotiated my record contract and have no plans to make another record (applause).’
I wonder – Did they not ask her to renew it?
‘The days of me making money from recording music has been and gone as far as I’m concerned, so I don’t (at this point) stand to profit from legislation. Except future purchases of previously recorded material *(which won’t be much)*.’
And that’s probably because *nobody buys your records* – Ever wondered why that might be?
She got trolled to death so she RAGE QUIT!
Epic fucking win! Pwned!
Jenks – So if I killed someone five years ago because “I didn’t understand the Contract Killing business” and left their remains on display at my house (her website), but spoke out against it now that would be fine by you?
no more bitter lyrics with mean intentions. woo-hoo, fuck you very, very much.
I posted something yesterday on a blog site from a link a posted here at TF (see link somewhere in Elton John thread) regarding something about Glasvegas, and that seems down as well.
I invite the purer artists to come in and fill the niches left behind.
Do you create art/media? Do you compose music? Let’s enjoy it together.
Art-as-industry (or anything else as industry) seems like an epic fail from the start if you like your art and artists purer.
…Speaking of industry, such as the banking, I’m halfway through ‘Zeitgeist Addendum’… and I’m becoming less and less of a happy camper…
From a link posted here:
“The singer’s [Elton John's] lavish lifestyle saw him spend more than £9.6m on property…”
Where/how do we camp/live if the rich pwn all the land? Do we have to work for them? To pay them our rent? Like serfs? Do you see the connections? No? Well I keep seeing them.
If the industry is in government, how does expropriation work?
BT’s the tip of the iceberg.
Happy ’sailing’.
haha right back at ya ho
Wow… I’ve chosen the same exact photo for my blog post… Haven’t copied… promise ;-)
http://fr.readwriteweb.com/2009/09/24/a-la-une/les-artistes-peuventils-permettent-de-lutter-contre-leurs-fans/
Thanks for reporting on this TorrentFreak. I listened to part of the linked ‘mixtapes’ the other day; nice find! It appears Lily Allen is a fellow pirate! Arrr… welcome aboard miss Lily!
ARRRP WELCOME ABOARD MISS LILY! -Parrot
No matter how upset artists get about declining album sales, they can’t ever return to the ‘glory days’ when albums cost $20.00.
Even without P2P, we still have legal internet sites such as amazon and ebay where people resell their entertainment for a fraction of the cost after burning or ripping it.
“I will not make another record,” adding “The days of me making money from recording music has been and gone as far as I’m concerned, so I don’t stand to profit from [anti-piracy] legislation.”
Artists like Lily who put their hopes in anti-piracy legislation to again make profit from album sales as in the ‘glory days’ will only be disappointed.
Live performance is where most of the money is at now for artists. Adapt or quit like Lily Allen.
Response to @85
What you do in your spare time doesn’t particulary interest me.
Obviously i’ve led myself into a hole now whatever my answer. I’m not condoning what she has done, but if she had taken them off we probably wouldn’t be having this debate now.
Its like saying for example – I supported ManUtd when i was young but now i support Liverpool. I now hate everything to do Manchester United.
We’ve all done things that we’ve regreted. You can’t change the past no matter how hard you try. You can only look towards the future.
You people are just plain evil, making such a talented beautiful singer quit!
(that’s sarcasm for those ‘less gifted’)
Wow, free entertainment…
Lilly is not broke because people (who was it? pls stand up) pirated her “work”. Lilly is broke because she’s getting ripped off by her label (as every artist with a major label contract) plus she’s too fcukin’ dumb to spend money wisely (100k on clothes???).
BTW, correct name-spelling is for respected persons only. Besides, I’ve pirated a lot of L’s lateley. Hope Ellton is next…
Having a wee look at the Featured Artists Coalition leads me to find that its operated by one of Song BMG’s & EMI’s agency….a vehicle for publicity perhaps……
As a brit i PMSL!
Poor old Lily. Perhaps you`ll be running to join the UK Government with Mandelbum next then eh? After all one rule for them, another for us.
BTW i wont miss you Lily “My dad got me where i am”.
Close the door on the way out & leave the internet to us :)
How the hell is her music career ‘legendary’ she made to bloody albums and the second one wasn’t even that good
fatty
leave her alone we all make mistakes but we only like talking about famous ppls mistakes that way we dnt ave 2 talk about ours and ours are prob alot worse than copyright thats nothing compared 2 sum ov the stuff iv done in the past celebs are ppl 2 they fck up from time 2 time
I think people are missing the point! I’ll never see that damn fine ass on a stage again!
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=40464287
wow, great background. acidic pulsing / breathing of the ornamental wall.
thanks for that*
“Until this point had there been no dependencies, that would have made no difference except simplifying the installation process.” : bullsh*t, period. If only it could be true.
She sounds like a bitch, looool
http://www.OzAdz.com
:-)
Great, theres one less talentless, clueless skank putting out crap CDs now. She did the whole world a favour by quitting.
Now if only every R&B singer would do the same…
lol a talentless twat who expected to get rich by making nonsensical nursery rhyme type music. GTFO
@ Jenks = Fail GTFO
Lily Allen QUITE OVIOUS article now on Encyclopedia Dramatica:
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Lily_Allen
Spam this at /b/ please, thank you very much
ByteThief’s parrot wrote:
“ARRRP WELCOME ABOARD MISS LILY! -Parrot”
*chuckle*
About money, Byte, let me dig out a passage from a book I’m reading called, ‘The Art of Natural Building’:
“The parts of my own life that I truly enjoy are the peasant parts, the parts I don’t pay for, the parts that I myself create. A life working for someone else and paying for basic needs is essentially unsatisfying. Why? Because our links to nature are severed when we live this way.”
File-sharing is a intriguing file in a folder of issues that affect our lives and how we live, merely “exist”, and/or wish to live.
I think that, like our industry/money-influenced divorce from nature or basic needs, Lily seemed divorced from similar elements in a sharing/communicational context.
Living in a dream world is all fine and nice, but allowing reality to slip can be dangerous for you and others.
“You’ve been living in a dream world, Neo.”
–The Matrix
I only can think of one word, MUPPET!
I fought the pirets…. and the pirets won. Thats cool that she doesn’t want to make music anymore. She sure should everyone! Hope she gets a job at Burger King and see that people can’t aford to make for media.
@97
I think it’s considered ‘legendary’ because in about a week, after posting something stating she was all againt piracy on her blog, she ended up stating “I’m a moron and I’m not making music anymore” (more or less).
I find that pretty legendary. Or hilarious. Whatever you want to call it.
can’t believe she’s having her dad pay for a SECOND career for her. Wouldn’t you folks like that?
Her dad paid for her music career, now he’s paying for her acting one. Sheesh.
http://i33.tinypic.com/1zz5pn5.jpg
Lily the Pirate by R. Wallace is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 UK: England & Wales License.
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/uk/
please spread this :D
“she killed her pro-copyright blog because “the abuse was getting too much.””
Those who casts ‘the Rolling Stones’, make the first step forward. Buhbye, Lilly – whoeverthefuckyouare! [disclaimer] first time picture, lot’s ‘a bad grammar swallowed. /BW
Silly Lily do have a history for talking nonsense.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1119142/Lily-Allen-blames-bad-luck-men-emotionally-neglected-parents-child.html
And if the comments are any indication, she was criticized by her statements well before all of these P2P thingy.
I almost feel sorry for her but then again people have to learn in some way.
ric, That is the worst PhotoShop work I have seen in years. Rubbish
Delete it now
@54
Seemed pretty neutral to me.
for you who dont know her
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNuQBC_kSWg
I have no idea who this tart is, and I can’t even be bothered to find out who she is, what she does or how she sounds (I figures from the mix tape track list that shes some type of singer).
Maybe she thought that creating bad publicity for herself would send droves of curious people finding out who she is, become a fan of hers and then finally making money off of them?
Some how I sense that plan failed.
“Just before she pulled the blog she wrote “I will not make another record,” adding “The days of me making money from recording music has been and gone as far as I’m concerned, so I don’t stand to profit from [anti-piracy] legislation.”
THAT is the problem. Music is not about acutally creating music anymore. Most people do it completely for profit. I don’t even know who this Lilly Allen person is, but obviously she’s in it only for the money.
I’ve been playing guitar for about 10 years now and consider myself a solo artist. All my stuff is instrumental blues and I lay down all the guitars and bass parts myself and use software to do the drum tracks. I have yet to release anything, but when I do it will be free. WHY? Because I make music because I like to do it not as a pathway for getting rich.
My opinion is that ALL music should be given away for free. Let’s face it, the days of needing million dollar studios and equipment to produce a good sounding record is gone. A decent PC and Pro Tools is all it takes these days. With the widespread use of the Internet marketing costs little to nothing as well. The need for huge conglomerate record companies to produce and promote musicians are long gone folks.
The question then becomes how, if at all a musician would make any money from their craft. The anser is live performance. Just like any business, a person who wants to work full time as a musician would start small by playing clubs and bars. They save their money, hone their craft and if they get better and are talented enough they will get bigger venues. Keep reinvesting and making a living playing music is quite possible. In a world like this we would not only be blessed with truly talented musicians who produce quality music because that’s what their passion is, we would at the same time weed out all the garbage music and musicians who do it for only money.
I believe that if we could change the mindset that well known “musician” equals filthy rich THEN things would start to change. That and of course, do a way with the huge record companies that need realize their day has come and gone.
if she doesn’t plan on making money on her music, does it mean i can upload it (legally) on my webserver?
not that I will, but it begs the question ;-)
wow that is big, and it is, i think, a great move from her
Suddenly, the taste of RIAA c*k became unpalatable….(spit spit spit) DADDY! HELP ME!
internet is a winrar!!!
lololololo
thx, TF made my evening!
Epic, as 4 said…just Epic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNSoWkEkbCU
I’m really happy for you, I’m gonna let you finish, but Adult Facebook had one of the best free adult cam girls of all time.
bye dont let the door hit ya on the asse on your way out
who the f is lily allen?
quick everybody bskyb news 7:00pm 18:00 GMT/UTC news on lilly alans blog closure.
should be intresti ng in what these idiots at sky make of it. i am going to report them if they even hint at any abusive comments made on the blog.
its a god job we have google cache which in doubt will be useful to ofcom, of said complaint is made.
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LOL 134 comments already!
nope they have blown it with the teasers “why lilly allan is quiting music because of online abuse”.
right no time to beat around the bush ofcom here i come.
Ladies, Gentlemen, today, a new meme was born:
lol lilly allowned
lol ragequitter
also some wench from http://www.ilikemusic.com
was on there saying she was abused who the hell do these people think they are Madison and his cronies need to be stoped.
Hey Lilly, watch the door doesn’t hit ya where the good lord split ya!
That ’saying’ was on Big Brother U.S.
Greedy bitch..
Those who have said they don’t know who Lily Allen is (or what her music sounds like): LOOK IT UP, YOU’RE ON THE GOD DAMN INTERNET!
It’s time for intellectual property rights to end. They make no sense in this era, and never really did anyway.
Dan Gardner
http://wizkidsound.com
Ending her career? LOL You’d need to have one to end it, halfwit isn’t even a hasbeen, she’s a neverwas
“Lily explained that she’s not a pirate but simply didn’t know any better.”
Wow.. Wish the rest of us could use that excuse when we get into trouble. As blond as that hair is, it’s almost a believable excuse to explain how brainless she really is. Yeah, couldn’t resist a blond joke.
If anyone needs proof, the picture in the article says it all… ;)
So Epic… I feel sorry for her, poor girl :D
i’m waiting next to see the article “RIAA now goes after ms allen sueing her millions and destroying her life and career over copyright infringement of those mix tapes”
then cookoo underhanded sly mandelson then makes an example of her by being the first to disconnect her
it would be an amazing story if it really happened i was one of the ones on a daily basis battling her on that blog :) looks like we won.
oh torrentfreak
you ARE nasty !! look all this free publicity she`s getting now! You cannot buy this shit !!!!!!
oh well, she`s quit now… for now. Watch this space. I say she`ll be back after the Uk gets new laws. :(
Brilliant death we would look lilly Allen and he music up on the internet but someone keeps telling us that filesharing music is illegal
But what will she do for money now?
I doubt she could even work as a prositute since she doesn’t know when to shut her mouth.
haha the mix-tapes have been removed from her site…..EMI pwned;) LMMFAO
Finally she’s done something smart, quit the music industry… We actually don’t want her recording anything!!!
When will these idiots learn that file sharing is free marketing. Disconnecting file shares wil not make us go out and buy records instead. We would not have heard of, or listen to, or have purchased over priced merchandise at concerts etc etc if it wasn’t for the ability to download they material for free in the first place. Killing file sharing will KILL the music industry. Their claims that new artists can’t break thro for lack of funding due to illegal file sharing raping the music industries BILLIONS is totally unfounded and a total load of bollocks. I know personally many music artists who are happy for people to share their material illegally as they would have never gained the legal sales of their material in the first place if it wasn’t for the internation marketing power on file sharing. AS TF users have stated above….. they get the money and live in their gold plated ivory towers BUT WANT MORE …… GREED IS THE KEY HERE… I would love to know how many Album or single sales MISS ALLEN would have gained if it wasn’t for legal downloading…. I bet it wouldn’t be nowhere near the number of sales she gains now…. well bad luck miss Allen, I use to enjoy your music and would happily have spent money to see you perform live before your ridiculous comments, UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU … I will happily NOT listen to you or pay any money to see you live now.. I wish it were true that you were leaving the industry but WE ALL KNOW YOUR A MEDIA HYPE JUNKIE AND ARE ONLY MAKING THESE BOLD CLAIMS OF NOT PRODUCING ANYMORE MUSIC TO FURTHER YOUR CAREER THRO THE PUBLICITY. WATCH THIS SPACE FOR A NEW ALLEN SINGLE OR ALBUM….I GIVE IT MONTHS TOPS.
PS. I have it on very very good authority that Miss Allen was/is a limewire user. (maybe she shouldn’t piss her ex’s off ;) )
did anyone watch House the other night?
ohh fuck I copied the char ‘c’ of “lilly you cunt”.
license words, and thoughts … it is a corparation that put those kind of communication basis in the world anyway!
or what should the maxime world be lilly? lables? hmmm?
the intesion to comunicate wasn’t out of licenses, pattents or money in the first place!?
In regards the whole argument, both sides do raise valuable issues. However, all the negative comments are subjective, with little to no empirical evidence nor reinforcements. Ok, some of you claim that without file sharing, new artists’ would not recognised, nor achieve main stream success (i.e., their music would now be heard nationally, or internationally). However, where is the evidence to reinforce such an accusation? Provide me with Empirical data, from reliable objective authors, and then I may be incline to take into consideration such statements. This is not to say I am favouring Lily’s side, where there are inconsistency with her view and her actions. Nevertheless, Lily has begun a debate, which requires further investigation and exploration, from both fronts. In a more upbeat note, I do enjoy Lily’s music, and shall look forward to her performance at the CIA in December :-)
Legendary music career? lolwut?
then the whore didn’t go into music for the right reason. you go into music because you love it, not for the money. idiot. i doubt the world will miss her.
!!! I just realized!
what if they terminated whatever agreement with her due to the “copyrighted material” ?
I bet it wasn’t even her decision.
Seeya Later B!tch. Won’t miss ya.
Does that mean torrentfreak contributed to ending her career? Well done admins :D
@21 – Delivered:
http://quiteovious.blogspot.com/
Lolz
who the f..k is lily allen ?
@Rick540 post 124..
Thats got to be one of the most sensible posts i have read anyplace for a long time.. well said and you totally nailed it .. the truth.
cheers,
Now that the internets have something to firmly fix their gaze upon for a second, maybe we could use this oppurtunity for a social experiment.
Now stick with me here, but, what if all of Lilly Allens’ musical torrents/limewire/usenet/rapidshare files etc where to be taken down off the internet simultaneously.
With this accomplished (albeit, an almost impossible task) we could maybe formulate an objective outcome to the question that she proposes; that file-sharing copyrighted music is preventing musicans from making money.
Even if it’s just an experiment for experiments sake, we could then see if the internet can work as one collective that we are supposed to be.
Just a suggestion, though please feel free to pick up the ball on this and run with it.
peace out
@ Michael, PhD (157)
Have a look at the arctic monkeys for one example…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4660394.stm
she makes me vomit
that pic in its full glory
http://www.egotastic.com/image-nsfw?path=0805/lily-allen-pussy-01.jpg&info=Lily%20Allen%20Pussy%20Pictures
this thing has been a wart about town since she snorted her first line in a club toilet
http://stupidcelebrities.net/2008/04/11/lily-allens-scandal-in-the-gents/johnny-borrell-lily-allen-and-noel-fielding/
I would have respect for her if she would simply own her mistakes. She tried to call people out for doing wrong, gets caught doing the same wrong and additional wrongs that are similar, but does she own it? No, she makes excuses: “Of course I wasn’t trying to pass that off as my own words”, “I didn’t understand copyright when that was posted” etc etc. But lily, the people you were supporting have sued the life savings out of people who made the same mistakes. People you were decrying fro doing the wrong thing, but like any other celebrity, you shrug it off and go about your business, never admitting any wrong, while other people have to actually face consequences. The least she could do it own it, admit it, and admit she has no right getting on a high horse over this issue.
Just who is she again? What a loser.
Lily: I dont support piracy! It steals my money!
Lolcat: ohai, i can has illegal muzic from ur site?
Lily: Oh, I’m a pirat! Since I’m one now, I’ll not support anti-piracy anymore because it can backfire!
What always catches my attention is, if policitcians are elected by people, how’s that most of us are unhappy with their work?
“The days of me making money from recording music has been and gone as far as I’m concerned, so I don’t stand to profit from [anti-piracy] legislation.”
That is because she is not extremely talented. Most artists make the majority of their money from live shows. If you aren’t that talented the cost of touring is more expensive. Since she’s not that good it’s costs more to tour add that on top of the fact that she doesn’t draw a huge crowd to offset the cost it’s only natural that she couldn’t make money off legislation.
I’m high.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I’VE BEEN SAYING FOR QUITE AWHILE NOW.THAT WHEN WE WERE YOUNGER (THOSE OF US WHO WERE AT LEAST TEENAGERS IN THE 80S),WE WERE MAKING AUDIO TAPES FROM RECORDS AND WHEN THE TECHNOLOGY BECAME AVAILABLE FROM OTHER TAPES AND THEN FROM CDS. WHERE WAS THE “OUTCRY” BACK THEN? I DON’T REMEMBER HEARING THE RIAA CRYING “STOP THIEF” BACK THEN,BUT NOW WITH THE ADVENT OF CD BURNING TECHNOLOGY AND TORRENTING,THEY ARE CRYING BECAUSE “THEY ARE BEING ROBBED”. WELL,FIRST OF ALL WE WERE/ARE THE ONES BEING ROBBED WHEN WE HAVE TO PAY $20.00 FOR A CD THAT HAS BEEN OUT FOR 50 YEARS OR MORE AND THAT ONLY HAS (IF THE BUYER IS LUCKY ENOUGH) 35 MINUTES OF MUSIC ON IT AS OPPOSED TO A CD THAT I MAKE MYSELF THAT I AM ABLE TO PUT A MINIMUM OF 80 MINUTES ONTO. SO LET ME BREAK THIS DOWN-35 MINUTES FOR $20.00 OR 80 MINUTES FOR PENNIES. I THINK THEY SHOULD GET THE POINT,BUT I GUESS THE ANSWER IS THAT THEY JUST DON’T WANT TO HEAR IT. THEY’LL JUST KEEP HARASSING PEOPLE JUST TRYING TO ENTERTAIN THEMSELVES AND ARE NOT LOOKING TO SELL THE MUSIC THEY HAVE DOWNLOADED. WHO HASN’T COPIED MUSIC IN THEIR LIVES (HELL I EVEN USED TO COPY VIDEOTAPES THAT I USED TO RENT,IT DIDN’T ALWAYS WORK BUT MOST OF THE TIME IT DID).
THANK YOU LILY
P.S. I OWN YOUR FIRST ALBUM-I BOUGHT IT SECOND HAND-SOMETHING I’VE BEEN DOING REGULARLY FOR CLOSE TO 20 YEARS,NOW.
I DON’T SEE A DIFFERENCE,DO YOU?
There is no doubt that lily allen is an idiot, however, i do love her music.
i love my little media whore
burn them all
burn them to all ground
burn them who are liars and exploiting us
stupid whore! this is so fucking funny! music like lady gaga should be fucking pirated. they dont deserve to get paid
I posted on her blog cince I am an artist.I have a half dozen lp’s out with various bands.All my art is freely shared with my permission.Do you like punk rock and 60’s garage?
Go ahead and download all 256-320k mp3
and here is a link
http://www.bigmeathammer.com/archives.htm
I do not approve of corporate labels/RIAA Artists and will boycott them all.
Support small indy labels,indy bands,and your local music scene before ever going near the bigwig assholes
Warning to the rest of the industry…
Elton John, James Blunt and others…
You want to be poster boys (or girls) for the solely greed-driven sue-the-consumer efforts?
If you understand what we do, which is that our p2p/sharing activity has a statistically insignificant effect on profits… you will understand that attacking us will not save anyone, will not help artists, will not solve a damn thing… ALL it will do is make us turn on you and dig the dirt on you, because you’re not just f**king with a few of us, you’re trying (and failing) to f**k with tens (maybe hundreds) of millions of us.
Unless you have NOTHING embarassing in your history, you’d be well advised to keep clear of MAFIAA industry efforts against us.
@176
Reminds me of my old C64 – used to type everything in CAPS!!! Or have i got it wrong and you are just SHOUTING?
I still don’t know who she is.
I’m guessing she was supporting anti-piracy legislation ’cause her record company told her too. I also think the reason she is giving up music is ’cause she pissed off all her fans and now has no hopes of being a big artist anymore. Just my opinion.
Its that Nazi, Lord Mandelson thats the trouble – not that spoilt little rich girl
I just downloaded her album to see what all the fuss is about.
It’s shit.
I resent wasting my time downloading this rubbish.
do you want her full album for free :D
she’s not making another album because her music dosen’t sell, it sucks and no one will promote it.
I’ve never heard her music but I have seen her tits. I was not impressed. See ya, Retard!
OK… so we know she owned herself…
Did she divide by zero?
@Jenks
No you’ve got it wrong. We’re not berating Ms Allen for her ‘crimes’ of creating a ‘mixtape’ and infringing copyright, we’re merely pointing out the hypocrisy of her saying it’s wrong to do that when her career was founded on such activities.
Personally (and I’d imagine I speak for all ‘pirates’ out there), I heartily welcome Ms Allen into the fold of fellow file sharers. She’s helped to prove our point that it’s not really a nasty evil crime perpetrated by ‘teh h4xx0rz’, but rather a way of saying to people ‘you really should check out these artists and tracks coz they’re cool and I think you’ll like them’.
I gave up on music when it seemed to have become a commodity rather than a passion. I think the Beatles did too, back in the 1960’s.
What a mess the music “industry” is in these days, if left to the corporations alone. I’m sick of music manufactured purely with profit in mind. I suspect many musicians are too, though they may have a hell of a time shaking off the record companies that “own” them.
The corporations seems to be the real threat to creativity, their goal is profit focussed, not the creative advancement of music or any other kind of popular culture.
Let DRM rule and let popular culture die. Not while I have breath in my lungs, or my desire to be an individual rather than a surf.
I’ve never even heard of Lily Allen at all and if it weren’t for file-sharing, I wouldn’t even be listening to music right now because that is how I found my favorite bands.
Glad to see another hypocrit exposed. The world’s filled with them enough.
Sharing is caring. I also agree with one of the earlier comments with how file-sharing should be done the right way: not profitting off of it. But people are going to do what they’re going to do, I suppose. =/
Mike, let’s say if the internet would not exist, people would buy what the media moguls would advertise to them on all the media owned sources: Magz, Radio, TV, Phone ads text, audio or video. That means only what a record label deems as “worthy” enough to sell in high quantities at a high price gets promoted. Well, the internet exists, thus they act so violent towards the idea of a user orientated industry.
Tell me, how would someone get to know all the bands that might not be for everyone’s taste but who have the right to exist, play/produce music and get the chance of becoming known to the few that like them?
A record label would not touch them because they’re not commercial enough… what then?
For starters, a file sharing community might be an idea, oh wait… they would become criminals for supporting such networks… or like Allen here, a social site like MySpace.
That’s nice, a place where she was promoted and first “discovered”. It was nice of her to share all of her hard work for which she would not get a single cent, instead she got fans that liked what she did. I for one, haven’t even heard of her before this, just like many others around here… for us she is a nobody, but for a few people she is known and maybe liked, since you seem to do so. Point, once she was discovered she was doing whatever it is that she WAS doing just for the cash. And now she wants to criminalize all the people that, like those before them, HER FANS, want to know music by selecting what they like instead and then investing. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
What Allen said there “The days of me making money from recording music has been and gone” shows me just a pathetic life form who doesn’t enjoy making music because it’s an art, meaning something beautiful, something that is a dream for many music & art students who finish proper schools for this but don’t get the chance to show what they can offer the world because they might not be commercial enough. Instead, she does this just for the cash… sorry Mike, art was invented as a way of relaxation, fun, to forget all the problems we encounter in life and live… even if that’s just for a bit, an hour or a night, and then we can all get back to reality.
No, these lower life forms care about how much they can su.ck dry their fans, or how many or how big their cribs should be, or how many cars they can park in front of them.
Music and art was made for us by people who enjoy making them.
What I’m saying is that today, the movie and music industry puts out so much garbage that we, the consumers / fans / people deserving of art, are practically forced to pay for it whether we like it or not!
I said earlier a user orientated industry… by this I mean that we should have the right to see for what we pay for, or even to evaluate how much it’s worth and then take the decision to invest.
And not the other way around, how it is done today… they put crap out, they also price it and we have to cough up exorbitant amounts of money for it.
Should we not buy it?… then what?… what psychological effect would have on us not using our right for fun/relaxation/having a good time?
Well, I can only say that one of the effects is the internet and another would be file sharing.
The evidence that you require doesn’t come from the artists… it comes from the users and fans.
If we, the users, would not need an alternative to what the music industry offers us, we would not pursue a way which opposes them… but the reality is that we need.
As an example, another reality sits on my hard drive, about 40 movies dl last month and 20 or so in queue… the thing is that I often get a feeling of repulsion when I get bored at the thought of watching movies. Why is that…? Because the past 95% of movies I watched weren’t entertaining at all. Some of them were so predictable that even the scripts and the exact words in these scenarios I would be able to reproduce… word by word… a split second before the actor. That was pathetic… it’s like the writers and producers exchange works just to cut corners and get payed faster.
There’s so much copied crap out there… like if you get to watch a movie about nerds and jacka55es… all you see are themes based on proms, high-schools, trips… things which aren’t original anymore, nor enjoyable… but who would still cost the average viewer quite an amount.
Last night I watched Frequently Asked Questions about time travel. I wasn’t expecting much and it wasn’t a block buster either, nor did it had expensive actors except maybe Anna Faris… but she’s OK, anyway it kept my curiosity up because it was a bit of a different story about nerds… felt original.
Another movie that I watched early this year was Night Train, a direct-to-DVD production with a small budget, no grand release, no fancy advertisement… pretty unknown… and pretty unavailable in my country. I found it by browsing on IMDB on Leelee Sobieski’s movies… it was there and I remember seen it released on one of the Scene release blogs. I said what the heck, since I don’t have anything to do. It kept me in suspense all the time and I can rate it good overall. Please tell me how would I have found it without the internet? How would I have even been able to watch it without the piracy community? What?… pay a German e-tailer to ship it to my country or what? For a Direct-to-DVD release? Yeah, right!
Is this enough evidence?
I can say that those 95% of the movies I’ve watched and not liked, I would not buy, so the evidence that the MAFIA(A) shows everybody about how much money they lose is unrealistic to begin with… nor it is fair to the user… the fan… or the art lover!
Thankfully, there is the internet.
Ever though about this problem? Unoriginality? Not entertaining? Not being worthy of the cash they ask for?
Just a few days ago I was watching Star Trek… not a Trekkie, never been one, and I still would not be one… for me, that movie was average! PERIOD!
I could recall the shape of that mining ship being pretty close to that of the ships from Knowing… somewhat like a Water Lilly. Not cool!
Time travel, black-hole generation, Super Novas… all this reminded me a lot of the Stargate series where these ideas were showed in an original manor and done properly, making Star Trek look pretty cheap and unoriginal in comparison.
They still got the hyperspace start wrong… pretty lame trashing a real theory how one would enter an Einstein-Rosen bridge… eg. a Wormhole!
Also Zachary’s performance wasn’t that good… he still makes one of the best villains in Heroes though.
However, the amount of hype that it generated was astonishing… 8.3 ratings? WOW!
Point, those artists who are unknown like the kids from FAQ about time space, don’t benefit from the hype Star Trek or similar has got… yet, they were to MY liking. They might not be to yours or to other people’s but they would deserve my support. Star Trek… would not!
If I would pirate one of those moves, the least worthy one like Star Trek, it would bring in more heat than the one that’s actually interesting. What does that tell me? or us for that matter?
I don’t care what law they buy and force onto us… if I can, I will fight back… but one thing is for sure, I will decide where my money goes based on my liking.
Music and art was never meant to be a way of earning an existence nor do we deny artists the financial gratitude for their work, but not on some already filthy rich middle-man’s terms and definitely not by tagging us as criminals!
The record industry needs to die and we have the internet to replace it!
By Mike I’m mean #157…
YO, I’MMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT JOEL TENENBAUM HAD ONE OF THE GREATEST MIXTAPES OF ALL TIME http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9418/mixtapesu.jpg
http://www.featuredartistscoalition.com/showscreen.php?site_id=161&screentype=site&screenid=161&newsaction=showitem&newsid=2588&dc=6&sn=News
FUCK!
The way Lilly built a career partially by pirating other peoples work reminds me of Steve Jobs and Woz.
It is interesting that Mac fanatics do not call them out for complaining about Mac clones, when Apple was actually funded by Jobs and Woz creating blue boxes so they could sell to people who wanted free phone calls that were effectively stolen from the Telcos.
The problem with musicians and actors/actresses nowadays is that everyone want’s to be insanely rich. What’s wrong with being middle class, unlike the billions that exceed the point of impoverished. Times are changing. If you can live like any middle class person you and make music you are sure as hell doing quite well.
heh, she’ll be back… dumb bitch
Lilly Allen = EPIC FAIL
And she’s back! UGH!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8274072.stm
I can’t choose which victory to celebrate: that lilly deleted her blog, or that lilly will never record music again :-)
As for the “abuse” she mentions, I was at her blog before it was deleted, and I posted to it. I didn’t see an abundance of offensive messages. 9 out of 10 comments were rational critiques of her irrational stance on copyright. Most of the posts managed to defend free culture without resorting to name calling.
So what “abuse” is she talking about? I think she just can’t admit to being wrong.
Good riddance lilly
hypocrisy doesn’t make your point of view wrong, it just makes you a hyprocrite.
Well, after saying she would not go to the meeting of artists to discuss this issue, it seems she DID go after all.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8274072.stm
Wonder if any of the artists that SHE pirated were there :)
@#196 Bunny
Whoa, where the fuck did that come from?
First, Lily Allen didn’t base her “career” on pirating other peoples’ works, she just made some pirated mixtapes and put them on her website. Aww… Let’s all take a step back to admire the adorable lil’ hypocrite.
Second, I’d like to see you explain why there was anything ethically wrong with making and selling blue boxes in the 1970’s, before Ma Bell was broken up. Infact, I’d like to see you explain why making and selling blue boxes(hypothetically, since they don’t work anymore) right now in 2009 would be ethically wrong, considering the Telco’s aren’t much better today than they were back then.
Tougher anti piracy-what would that be nuclear annihilation of population centerers?
When Lily Allen’s career was taking off, she was probably an immature young woman who was sold a bill of goods, and was probably promised things or at least led to believe her destiny was to be a well-paid celebrity, and all she had to do was hone her craft, make her art, and rely on a publicity machine funded by the sales of records and concert tickets – hers and other people’s, in perpetuity. After enjoying quite a bit of good luck and success – some of it manufactured and undeserved, some of it a product of her talent and effort – she’s now confronted with one of the things that everyone, artist & laborer alike, experiences in this day and age: there are no such guarantees or entitlements in life. Sooner or later you have to adjust your strategy, change careers, live through lean times as well as the times when you’re flush. She’s still so very young and inexperienced, really only just beginning to approach philosophical issues of art, law, and business with a bit of maturity and wisdom. She’s cognizant enough to recognize and admit to carelessness in her “youth” and to try to take the wind out of the sails of her critics when challenged about her apparent hypocrisy…yet in declaring she’s done with music because she’s pessimistic about its ability to make enough money for her (enough for what?), she loudly failed the underlying and much more poignant challenge: to prove that she’s a musician at heart, and a musician with heart, not just a pretty voice for hire, a voice which goes silent the minute the lifestyle-sustaining money stops rolling in. I feel bad for her because she I think despite her claim that she knows better now, at 24, than when she was a 19-year-old ‘pirate’, she doesn’t seem to comprehend how much it undermines her credibility to declare that she’s no longer going to make music. For all her talk of moving forward into new artistic adventures, she seems perfectly willing to play the victim – and thus the pawn – in this industry in upheaval. This incident will certainly be used in the industry’s arguments as “proof” that piracy is destroying our culture by taking away artists’ incentives to create. But if a privileged young woman abandons her craft and creativity the instant her compensation for it drops down to “not much” (an insult to artists like me, for whom “not much” would be an improvement), then has our culture really lost anything of value, and is the industry that fed on her deserving of our sympathy?
this dumbass will make another album. she lies about everything else
L’inglese lo leggo a malapena e a scriverci non mi azzardo (gia’ sono in difficolta’ con l’italiano).
Pero’, a prescindere (grazie Toto’) dalle posizioni di Lily (Allen) sul filesharing e dai tentativi dei mafiosi politici di usare il pretesto del copyright per mettere la mordacchia a internet, una cosa in suo favore (di Lily) la voglio dire: mi piace assai, ma proprio assai, anzi assaissimo, come cantante ma soprattutto come donna, e’ una meraviglia.
Lily, sparale pure grosse sul filesharing e su ogni cosa che ti passa per la testa, a me basta vederti e non capisco piu’ una mazza, qualunque cosa tu dica per me hai e avrai sempre ragione: I love you.
Ma che cavolo lo scrivo a fare qui che tanto lei non lo leggera’ mai e pure se lo leggesse sarebbe ostrogoto?
Lo so, ma ho visto la foto e sono andato in tilt come al solito.
Grazie per la pazienza e arrivederci.
she’s not gonna stop. I bet it. Liar
Ends her career? Granted, she has a tendency to say stupid things, but “Ends Her Career?”
I understand why getting headlines is important for this place, but let’s face it… this place doesn’t get any headlines anyway… except for here. Period.
If anybody can show me different I would love to see it. SHOW ME!
@112 Bobe-On (Peasant Revolts)
Glad you liked my parrot!
I’m not sure I fully grasped the meaning of your response. Were you saying that those who share (take) what others create are living in a dream world? Or… was it those who focus on money?
@206 Fido
Some great points there buddy, well said!
I skipped school to play Pacman the day they explained the difference between a myth and a legend, but I’m sure that should say, “the end of her mythical music career.”
End her career?
Has it ever begun?
I only got to know her through this website.
She mentions Vera Lynn as being number one this week…well honestly, I think that Vera had the greater, bankable talent.
Guys we r Winning.I mean we got her 2 retire….The Force grows stonger in Torrent and soon the whole world is gonna be free of charge as it should be…Sharing is Caring.
Good now she can go back to having pictures taken of her tits/ass hanging out.
winmx has a lot of rare music & had I not used it, I would have not heard of many great artist. I don’t go to the stores often as for I live far away from them. I dl stuff & if i like it, google the author & try 2 support em.
Yippie kai yay, you dumb ****.
who the hell is Lilly Allen? seriosly?
AHHAHAHAH, To know more please visit http://www.angstcorner.com/
1 down.
5.3 million to go.
Can’t take the heat. Silly imature little girlie. Run to papa I am sure he’ll talk to some of his telly mates this time and get you a role in a new and imporved Robin Hood or some shit.
These hypocritial “artist” get on my wick. Lecturing us all when 99% of them will have enegaged in making tapes like this wee girlie and/or downloading. If they say they didn’t THEY LIE.
This is a civil liberties issue. It comes to something when the rich and famous can get access to government and push they views while that government takes the rights away of the very people they were voted to represent and who pay their fucking wages. Mandleson hasn’t even this luxury. This man forced to resign over dodgy deals twice and REJECTED by his electorate at the ballot box has ZERO mandate to take our rights away.
None of these plans take due process into account. Involving state snooping on a scale that even Sadam or East Germany couldn’t have achived. And all of us will be rendered impudent and unable to challenge any ban, right or wrong, all because the likes of the record industry who can’t move with tht times and still produce shit and silly little gildnrained girls like this one just open them mouths.
As for James Blunt, Poor little rich kid. But then again all he ever does is whine. Thats why I through his cd out. Stupid Lilly Allen can’t take the critiscm. Naive girl. She thought too much of herself. I dearly hope we keep her to her decidion to abandon music. But such is her lack of integrity that I am certain she will be back. No doubt spinning this as and abuse victim and angling for sympany like all the Max Cliffors influenced celebs do. Please stop singing. Please go away. Goodbye.
Lilly Allen = Saint (straight to the heaven)
This is the same woman that said Radiohead “cheapened” the value of music by putting their last album up for free or whatever the fans will pay. Hmmmm lets see. Radiohead made a killing. Yes I do believe miss Allen’s music is not good enough for that sort of thing. So I guess she’ll have to rely on the “industry” to put her awful songs in front of clueless hipsters.
Who’s Lily Allen?
she has come to party of a dying elephant, and can’t work out why it isn’t as much fun as it should be…
Blow for music industry as Lily Allen says Peter Mandelson’s plans too draconian
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article6848502.ece
Just read this latest news on the Allen file sharing debate. I’m not sure how the latest “squeeze broadband” plan will be any more workable.
http://www.neonfiller.com/page2.htm#filesharers
The ‘bandwidth restriction after 2 warning letters’ idea is still totally unworkable, because it misses the core point that they can’t PROVE who the infringer is.
Does this mean they’ll first have to get this actual proof, or are the warnings/slowdowns still going to be based on a mere accusation?
None of the reports actually seem to mention this pertinent point.
Stupid bitch should never have been in the music industry anyway. She isn’t a musician. Bring back REAL bands, REAL talent a live performances, then maybe you’ll make it in the industry. The days of a quick buck using computer generated music and a pretend artist are nearly over.
OMG reasoned mind say’s something i agree with!!
too right mate i hate these fake acts who write mediocre songs some don’t even write at all. then to other scale we have idiots like Taylor swift and metro station those high school musical guys who pretened to play instroments.
i had to pick one thing that enoys me the most it would be the fake instrument players. i play professionally and find it insulting to my intelligence. Though i do laughs when there called genius when they don’t even understand basic cord progression.
it was quite funny once here in the uk as these acts were critersied to the point were the government nearly steped in, having had them done for fraud, though as quick as it came around it went shame really would loved to see the faces of their fans when found out that had no talent at all and it was all just a lie.
If she wanted to end her career she shouldnt have copyrighted any songs she should have left the music industry without having to do this.
i was going to buy her album after listin to it on the internet, but not now
Damn, I like Lily Allen too. Craziness
lol FAIL
I feel so bad, we will never hear anymore shity music from her… lol
ya i too was gonna buy her album…and some of her past work…but no way no how not now…and i told my friends to do the same and tell their friends not to have anything to do with lily allen
It is hard to understand why everyone seems to believe it’s ok for people to have music for free? Record contracts for artists ofter very low percentages of sales and touring is expensive for up and coming artists. I understand there needs to be new ways of making money from music or less and less new artists will be able to come through. If it’s something you enjoy would you not want to reward someone for that?
One useless musician less.
If somebody gives up making music just because of filesharing they probably sucked anyways.
I have never heard of her anyways…
Think this sums it up:
I think this just about sums it up: http://kickupthefire.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/its-not-alright/
lily allen, is not going to make ‘another’ record…. did she ever make one to begin with!
apart from standing infront of teh mike and having her crap voice auto corrected what ‘other’ part did she play….
this is what happens when you give media space to an uneducated spoiled brat,- plenty sound, no substance
“I will not make another record”
Thank fuck for that.
http://realmusicpeople.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/lily-allen.jpg
Who the hell is Lily Allen??? Scrap that, I don’t care…
lulz
223 Sep 25, 2009 at 09:56 by Todd wrote:
“This is the same woman that said Radiohead ‘cheapened’ the value of music by putting their last album up for free or whatever the fans will pay. Hmmmm lets see. Radiohead made a killing.”
Exactly, but not the exactly you may be thinking…
Seems Radiohead is or has a member on the FAC– the artists who apparently want to see file-sharing controlled/throttled. Money and control.
(That seems like a contradiction for Radiohead.)
To those who say they would have paid for Lily Allen’s albums; there are free, purer, non-commercial artworks out there on the net. You have to do a little sifting to find what you like, but the record companies do that also anyway and not necessarily on your behalf.
Why support industry financially with their lawsuits, and allow them to control what you listen to?
ohhhh noooooooooos
someone call 911
the waaaaaaaah ambulance is on its way!
Copyright was designed to control culture. Fuck the MAFIAA and fuck the copright laws made by corrupted governments worldwide. As soon as you acknowledge their existence you have lost.
Reject all MAFIAA laws! Reject all copright! Reject all patents! They are devices for control by the wealthy and powerful.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c28/geko546/selfown.jpg
haha. This is one inane bitch. Completely clueless.
Bytetheif wrote:
“I’m not sure I fully grasped the meaning of your response. Were you saying that those who share (take) what others create are living in a dream world? Or… was it those who focus on money?”
I meant those divorced from the reality of human nature and nature nature, as well as those being controlled by them.
For example, many in law or politics seem divorced from the reality or “hypothetics” of technology, file-sharing or copyright. That can risk civil unrest:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_unrest
And civil unrest of course can be ethically justifiable.
Put simply, it’s often very important to at least ‘have/get a clue’ that’s grounded in reality, or to at least tread lightly if you don’t. :)
Annoy the wrong person and you’re liable to get your house torched.
Famous people are even more salient and vulnerable than sitting ducks, and yet they seem to act as though it’s rather quite the opposite.
I kind of like the precedent this sets. In the end, we’ll be left with the people who’s passion for MUSIC exceeds their passion for money.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL9-esIM2CY
A guy has posted a fantastic video rebuttal to Lily’s rant. Even better, he’s set it to music – one of Lily’s own songs “22″
Give it a listen – it’s hilarious.
Cheers
The whore of myspace
ah girls dese days
can she suck it real good? cuz that may change the data
@forgotten: hehe… you’re so right :)
Artists like her can’t figure out how to make money using this “digital revolution”
That is why she quit. It is the same with all of these elderly and middle-aged people that don’t try to understand. They just want to kill it a be done. Their is so much potential for torrents and business, the right business model just has not come yet. We just need something that charges a small fee and gives us access to a lot of unrestricted shizznit
Legendary career at music?
thats the funniest of all!
xa0xa0
there is no person who doesnt her globally.
meh
Lily Allen has quit music?
WHO THE FUCK IS LILY ALLEN?
Would have been good to make an introduction in the article to say who this person is.
Singer? Porn actress? From the picture, it’s not easy to guess
you_cant_stop_us: Ex-singer soon to be porn actress aka Lil’ Anal.
What’s totally unfair is that Jammie Thomas got hit for $1.9 million in damages for infringing on only 24 songs. Lily made millions on the back of infringing 38 songs. I’ve written about it on my blog at: http://640k.ca/2009/09/comments-on-the-lily-allen-mixtape-fiasco/
LOL’d.
Silly doris. She needs to wise up. Thank fvck she isn’t going to make another record!!
Remember, kids: when trying your best to rewrite the law, make sure you don’t get caught in your own rewrite. >_>
Oh my god! Another publicity stunt! What better way to try and mke the world take notice of her bullshit anti copyright stance then to quit the music industry itself!
Nice try Lily, nice try.
So lame, I like her tunes, her attitude stinks though. The industry need to take heed of these cheap russian music sites and start dropping their prices. + I haven’t downloaded a single track since installing spotify. A better model perhaps? They all think they are ‘losing’ money to file sharing? How can so many musicians be so out of touch. RIP Lily.
Turns out she’s back already….
From the sun.
Just four days after stating she’s quitting the industry, the songbird has announced a co-headline tour with DIZZEE RASCAL.
She said she was hanging up the mic last Thursday, but I can reveal she’s going to be playing arena dates with the rapper next year.
“Quiting the Music biz” & “wont be making another record” Crap its probably a ploy to quit before being ditched by the label because nobody buys her crap excuse for music.
Davewrote: “I will not make another record,” – great – everyone wins :)
I’m with Dave…high fives all around!
Though you criticize Lily`s methods, I think that it doesnt matter how, but public should be aware. And she was brave enough to let people know. Even if realizing it all after her income started to be dependent on it.
You know, its like buying free range chicken. Thought who have never been to battery farms have no idea how they suffer. But thanks to education in this sphere provided by famous chefs,articles, etc, people become aware. I honestly didnt give a shit about downloading/not downloading the illegal music, but thanks to Lily`s information I will never do it again – like I will never buy a battery farm chicken. It doesnt matter how you let people know, result matters! Fully support Lily, she is brave, she is making a difference! and you are just bla bla bla…
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