Metallica’s Lars Ulrich ‘Pirates’ His Own Album
Written by enigmax on March 05, 2009It’s been nearly nine years since Lars Ulrich became one of the most vocal opponents of Napster and the generation of file-sharers it spawned. Not one to speak about something he has no experience of, Ulrich has just admitted downloading his own album, Death Magnetic, and it was “bizarre”.
In April 2000, Lars Ulrich launched his vocal campaign against file-sharing service Napster. After discovering that Metallica’s entire back catalogue could be found on the service he could hardly contain his anger and by July 2000 he was testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Of course, Napster was dead and buried a long time ago but thanks in part to Ulrich, the destruction of the service led to the creation of many others, most of which carry the entire back catalogue of Metallica to this day – along with that of every other band in the world with a respectable following.
So, when Metallica’s latest album ‘Death Magnetic’ hit the file-sharing networks last year, it seemed like business as usual when the band’s label, Universal, canceled an interview with a Swedish newspaper after their reviewer admitted he got his copy from The Pirate Bay.
However, the once vehemently anti-p2p Ulrich came out with a softened stance. “If this thing leaks all over the world today or tomorrow, happy days,” he said. “It’s 2008 and it’s part of how it is these days.”
Now, just a few months later, Ulrich has admitted that following years of aggression against file-sharing, he has actually just tried it out for himself. In an intervew with Eddie Trunk of VH1’s “That Metal Show”, Ulrich admits that last year he ‘pirated’ his own album after it leaked onto the Internet.
“I sat there myself and downloaded ‘Death Magnetic’ from the Internet just to try it,” he said. “I was like, ‘Wow, this is how it works.’ I figured if there is anybody that has a right to download ‘Death Magnetic’ for free, it’s me.”
Ulrich went on to say that he and half a dozen friends were enjoying a bottle of wine at his house and used a file-sharing client (the name of which eluded him) to download the album.
“We found it – this was like two or three days after it leaked. I was like, ‘You know what? I’ve gotta try this.’ So we sat there and thirty minutes later I had ‘Death Magnetic’ in my computer. It was kind of bizarre.”
Welcome to the 21st century, Lars – although the same ‘bizarre’ stuff went on in the last century too.
Previously: Audio Watermarks Locate Camcording Pirates
Next: Top 10 Most Pirated TV Shows on BitTorrent
231 Responses
He’s still a faggot.
Lawd, who even pays attention to these fossils anymore?
Last I checked they were doing duets with Linda Rhondstadt and Anne Murray. I think my 82 year old grannie is a fan of these losers, especially since they perform with symphonies now.
I’m amazed that scrub Lars even knows how to use a mouse. What a douche that guy is. I hope he gets run over crossing the street in his walker.
its me!
Please watch your language.
…..
Now dl some pron :D
I feel sorry for the modern musician. I’m not worried about Lars Ulrich, he just sold a painting for 17 million or something. But this is insane. I found the Death Magnetic Album and put it on disc to see how it would sound… it sounds great!
Music will mainly be made for television and other media, because whose going to buy what is free? That’s my prediction.
How the mighty have fallen – Lars Ulrich using a file-sharing client.
Whilst I might like to have a go at the guy for the years of shit he’s thrown at file-sharers, I’m just happy that one of the most vocal opponents of file-sharing has clearly softened his stance quite substantially.
Now if we can only begin to have the same effect on the other fossils in the industry, the war will be much closer to ending…
Was this before or after he’d buggered the other band members?
Well filesharing is theft, you people cant honestly expect to get away with it. Eventually all torrent sites will get shut down, even if it takes some time.
Frontman?
James Hetfield being Metallica’s frontman.
Interestingly, a few minutes before reading this, I got an idea to become a famous artist, download my album and wait for RIAA to sue me, than sue them for harrasment :)
Or, to copyright a sueing process – kinda give them their own medicine, you know?
i saw some torrs of “Metallica” but theyr old men,,, wrinkled smelly,,, if i wanted to listen to wrinkled and smelly old men id go and see my grandpa sing! pft! lets plz have some articles bout more relevant ppl?
Yeah, lets just invent some news about relevant people…
he’s a douche
i wonder how it has affected him financially?
probably not at all
it just means that everyone who wouldnt have bought his album at all actually have a copy and might tell others if it’s any good
@7: Go troll somewhere else, MAFIAAtard!
Thanks to those pointing out that Ulrich isn’t the frontman, that’s fixed now ;)
what a tight bastard! inviting six of his friends and only giving them one bottle of wine. what a great night that must have been…
Metalla – who? oohhh i remember those old guys. they are the ones that put out the trash every 5 yrs or so…yeah, maybe like one decent song per album….hhhmmmmmm, gotta tell ya lars, i wont spend another dime on your crap till i hear it. its a well known fact that you guys are HAS BEENS.
@7 by then bittorrent will be obsolete anyway. Please come join us and Lars in the 21st century, and have some cider with us.
So basically now that disc is legal to download. I mean, if the author himself is “making it available” how can he then claim he tried to protect his IP? I really doubt that he will know how to avoid making it available if he doesn’t even now the client he used.
So… Is he going to sue himself?
He’s still a friggin prick for his crusade against Napster and for that reason alone I will always ensure that a full and complete discography of Metallicas complete works will remain on every single major torrent tracker.
I doubt that is all they downloaded that night!!!
As if they would stop at just one album.
Baby steps, baby steps. For once I’m happy to hear a little good news from Lars. Good to hear he’s discovered the inter-tubes.
@ DJ Sketch @1337x.org
If you’re referring to their albums post-Justice, then I agree. Otherwise you’re just another bandwagon hater who doesn’t like any kind of music that’s not emo.
how did it take him 30 min to download a cd? :-/ I mean I know his opinions are stone age but is his internet still 56k or something?
Too late. I really loved Metallica since the Black Album came out. Music was shit on all newer albums. But after the “Thing” with Lars Ulrich i quitted all. I never listened to Metallica you know! NEVER!
Only 1 Man is more annoying. The german Hiphopper from “fantastischen vier”, who toured through german schools and teached the children that copying is baaaad and the Artists will starve if they copy.
I wonder if he will now support it as well if I! hadn’t downloaded the album from a torrent then I dont think i would have payed to see them this month…
btw it was fucking amazing :D
@22
Post-Justice =)
That hits the nail on the top perfectly.
there are still people downloading/listening to mp3s these days ??? c’mon flac is here, big HDs are here, big broadband connexions are here, mp3 is patented, full of bugs and about the worst way to listen to music !
Well, metallica still is great. And the fact that Lars actually downloaded it, well that just shows that he is opening up.
LOL
i bet the copyright holders(not metallica) wouldnt be to happy to hear this.Someone start a federal suit!
We may or may not be on our way to BURYING this old system of copyright control.
Well by the copyright lobyists “common sense” argument he’s just cost the music industry the price of the album…..as they say if he couldnt download it then he would have bought it from the shop, just like everyone else
As he gets 90p or so from the album then he’s stolen the other £14 and should be held accountable?
Would love to see that trial in the news
I actually have no problem paying for a song I really like, but I’l be damned if I ever buy an album again.
Unless its a concept album which as a whole is the song.
99.9% of all the albums released by big money these days are all based on the same formula.
1 great song which could take number 1 for weeks, 1 or 2 short hits that might get to 1 but won’t stay there long and then filler which, when played, makes my cat think its mating season.
And I’m sure I’m not the only one that has no problem paying for the songs he/she likes.
The other problem with the entire release crap is that, just like you could read in this article about the Metallica album, they don’t release them everywhere at the same time and often people that aren’t in the US have no other choice then to download it, because if they have to wait for the official release in their country, the songs in them are likely not even in the lists in the US anymore.
Same goes for games. A great game gets pirated in Europe, Russia and China so much because we don’t want to frigin wait half a year to be able to play it too.
And again same goes for games that get released on both Console and PC. Releasing on Console often a full year before the game gets to PC is simply rediculous in this digital age.
30 minutes!! Ulrich is definitely still back in the 00′…
Uhg, what a bunch of punks the people on this forum can be. Look, Lars may be a douchebag for the Napster incident. But facts are facts.
1. Metallica is still, to this day a number one selling band.
2. Load and ReLoad should not have been labeled metal albums. But as far as radio friendly hard rock goes, I dare you to tell me something else came out those years that were better.
3. St Anger, while it was a barely listenable piece of trash, it’s still the best Emo album I’ve ever heard.
4. Death Magnetic is leaps and bounds better than The Black Album.
5. If Metallica’s sound remained the same from Kill Em All straight through to Death Magnetic, you’d all be complaining about how they never grow, it’s the same old song and dance.
6. If you don’t write music, you’re an inexperienced critique. Which means your opinion is on par with things I’ve flushed down the toilet.
7. Napster sucked anyways, get over it.
8. The CD format is never going to go away. And people will continue to buy the albums they like. That’s what a responsible pirate does. They support the artists they like so those artists can continue to entertain them.
Look, don’t be a common thief, and don’t don’t act like a five year old because a band did something you didn’t like. If the music is good, shut up and enjoy it. Especially if you didn’t pay for it.
Have reported him to RIAA for theft via copyright infringement as Universal own the copyright not him and as he’s confessed liability in the press it should be a nice open and shut case for them (one they can win at last)
Will post the response to this site if they bother to acknowledge the seriousness of this crime
“8. The CD format is never going to go away.”
Right. Just like cassettes never went away.
“And people will continue to buy the albums they like. That’s what a responsible pirate does.”
“Responsible pirate” – what kind of crack are you smoking mate? I’d like to know. “Responsible pirate”… keep going, your hilarious.
I haven’t in years nor intend on buying any album I like – I’d rather have it for nothing.
“Look, don’t be a common thief”
Look, you do what you want just STFU with the labelling of other people with your pathetic moral code you dipsh!t knob.
“If the music is good, shut up and enjoy it. Especially if you didn’t pay for it.”
So in order to maintain your sense of moral superiority you are now asserting that people who pirate have an opinion that matters less than somebody who purchases.
Go away with your stupid ideas will yers.
“I was like, ‘Wow, this is how it works.’ I figured if there is anybody that has a right to download ‘Death Magnetic’ for free, it’s me.”
No he can’t. He has to pay for the mafias goodwill, and all the cd’s and the record companies.
WEll, if they come after us, then we can use the same excuse, can’t we? :P
@Surma
As a fellow finn (assuming based on your name) I will agree, except on #4, Black Album is still better than DM, of course that might be more due to nostalgic reasons.
Of course they won’t go after him, the RIAA only goes after easy targets with little money. One rule for famous people and another for everyone else ¬_¬
@NubCakes (if that is your real name)
CDs won’t be going away for a looong loong time, the record companies won’t allow it.
As for digital downloads (legal or illegal), I’d rather have the actual CD, booklet, etc. But maybe that’s cos I actually listen to music that is good and deserves my money. I understand that if you listen some crap like Rap or Madonna that you don’t wanna pay for it, I wouldn’t either… but then again, if I listened to either I think I’d have to but a bullet in my head.
7 Mar 05, 2009 at 11:38 by Jeet
Well filesharing is theft, you people cant honestly expect to get away with it. Eventually all torrent sites will get shut down, even if it takes some time.
————————————-
————————————-
that is not possible
30 minutes lol try 3 minutes ARRRRRrrrr!
@7 Jeet
“Well filesharing is theft, you people cant honestly expect to get away with it. Eventually all torrent sites will get shut down, even if it takes some time.”
It will take an infinite amount of time. See you at time infinity.
mr plop, jeet, reasoned mind, a victim, concerned, and all the other mpaa/ifpi troll names you use.
FILESHARING IS NOT THEFT
the fact you say it is a million times does not make it so.
Hopefully you will be fired soon like the rest of the lampreys.
Hei Uskomaton! Mitä kuuluu? As for the rest, I’m still learning. That is understood, I just found it to be their most commercial sounding album and it just didn’t have the appeal to me. I will give it its due, it was a landmark album for me.
Nubcakes, look man, it’s not about superiority. But there are several people out there who will always purchase a physical copy. Perhaps “never” was a strong word. One day all those people may die out. But there’s always going to be a small market for people that want that physical copy. I’d know, I’m one of them. Chalk it up to a personal preference.
But I won’t back down on the thief aspect of it. Call it what you want, it is stealing and it’s ethics that dictate this idea to me. The belief that supporting someone who has done right by me, in this case entertaining me. Now, would I pay ridiculous FYE prices ($20)? No. But I support my local music shops and the artists who’ve never let me down.
surma
As dictated by your ethics please join me in reporting lars to the RIAA for theft:
antipiracy@riaa.com
surely “Justice for all” right?
O M G.
He did what?
He should be excommunicated from metallica for doing that!
And then he should imprisoned for 2 years and pay a large fine.
Wow, how clever. If you create it, it’s yours. Do what you will with it.
I should also point out that I don’t consider file sharing in itself a crime. But in the case copyright material, try before you buy is the ethical code I apply to it.
@46, 45
This would only be right. I am sure he is secretly a:
a. terrorist
b. organized crime figure
c. child pornographer
sorry, i forgot
d. gang member
“they want your router now”
Artists cannot share or reproduce material that is copyright by the studio without their consent….just like the rest of us
By using a p2p client he has done both of the above
so not clever….just F.A.C.T ;-)
About his Y2K attack on Napster:
“It wasn’t about money. It was about protecting our right to release music as we see fit. I don’t regret any of it.” – Lars Ulrich in 2009 interview
http://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/turn_it_up/2009/01/metallicas-lars-ulrich-on-life-with-james-hetfield-the-loudness-wars-and-outrunning-spinal-tap.html
just for the fun of it, i will download all of metallica’s albums in top quality, at least 200 kbps and then i will seed it until i get a ratio of at least 20 or 30,
then i will delete the files, download them again and repeat the whole procedure, its like sharing in geometric progression u mpa fags haha
Well you can download the latest album without fear of being prosecuted as Lars has seeded it…..until they prosecute Lars ofc
I don’t like him for what he has done to Napster. All of this action is just pathetic and dump.
@7
no no no your thinking of commercial piracy file sharing without a profit is not stealing.
Filesharing is not a crie. Copying is not stealing.
A real musician (and not Lars) would have thougt: “Ohhh shiiit, what a miserable Quality 196Kbit VBR Mp3. Let’s upload some Waves and Tracklines from the studio for free.”
@Surma
Eipä ihmeitä, töissä tylsää :P
@monster_mack
200kbps is not top quality, hell, even MP3 goes to 320, try flac, you can get 1000kbps or just straight CD backup in that format.
@rock and roel mcdonaldz!
Filesharing other peoples work is stealing no matter how you try to justify it. Of course you can be like most people and not care.
I certainly don’t care even tho I pirate less and less things these days cos most new music sucks ass and same with movies, I usually tend to buy the games after I’ve “tested” them on a PC.
I love filesharing!!!
don’t forget that it’s likely that he put it up to fileshare it in the first place.
As much as hollywood wants people to believe filesharing is the devil, they are the ones who put things up and then blast media about how it’s so “WRONG” just to create interest in things that they know otherwise people could care less.
“I figured if there is anybody that has a right to download ‘Death Magnetic’ for free, it’s me.”
LOL
Independence Limited
Freedom of Choice
Choice Is Made for You My Friend
Freedom of Speech
Speech Is Words That They Will Bend
Freedom with Their Exception
Lars Ulrich along with the current blocking of TPB are some of the things that make me not so proud of being a Dane these days.
Dude sucks and so does his band.
I am mad it took him 30 minutes to get the album. Freaking noob.
It should have only taken him like 3 minutes or less. I think he was using limewire or something. It was not torrents that is for sure because of the time it took.
Lars Ulrich and friends were enjoying a bottle of wine.
THAT IS SO FUCKING METAL
yeah! let’s report him to the RIAA cause pirates are scum!!!
he obviously downloaded it flac. not like you 192kbps mp3 bastards.
Epic win for torrent users
@34 Surma
“Look, don’t be a common thief, and don’t don’t act like a five year old because a band did something you didn?t like. If the music is good, shut up and enjoy it. Especially if you didn?t pay for it.”
To disapprove of their actions, and thereby also disapprove of them personally is not “acting like a five year old” whatever that means; it is being human.
He’s a common thief. The proceeds of an album sale go to the label, distributor etc, as well as, the artist themselves. He is justify his theft.
Lars was right. All you grabasses think you’re entitled to copyrighted works without paying for them. You’re wrong. Period. Don’t like it? Lobby your federal governments. Breaking existing law isn’t the fix. Stupid kids.
bzare, like im a brain dead moron who’d note even be getting the press except for the fact of piracy and bootlegging
Those people who tell you not to take chances
They are all missing on what life’s about
You only live once, so take hold of the chance
Don’t end up like others, same song and dance
Lars:
Surely you recognize by now that this is not a collective of thieves. This is a movement driven by what we might call “universal morality” that transcends borders and religions. Sure, there are some bad actors out there but the vast majority of sharers are just ordinary people who are increasingly aggravated by draconian copyright laws (totally unsupported by cultural wisdom past and present) and secretive (see ACTA), oppressive efforts by the MPAA ,RIAA, et al to suppress P2P and net neutrality by attempting to hammer the ISP’s into “guilt by accusation” policies.
You’re obviously a creative, perceptive man who does give a damn so be please careful with this lest your life’s work become tainted. Do the research. Look at what’s going on around you. You, as we, are pawns in the big game. Make sure you’re on the right side of this issue. If you can’t support the new interactive model, I can respect that. But at least make a solid effort to understand it and be fair-minded about it.
PS: Many thanks to TorrentFreak for keeping a good, clean, informative site going. :)
You’d think being as rich as him he would have faster internet. 30 mins to download an album whats he got dial up?
“o we sat there and thirty minutes later…”
30 minutes?
lil slow?
But look forward to watching him at Sonisphere Festival this summer
The first post stole my exact words right out of my mouth
Does anyone else get the feeling that Lars is a fucking liar?
This story smells like it was barfed out whole from a publicists evil stinking maw.
For Lars definitions are different, when he says “Friends” he means – his agent, his assistants, his butler, his driver, and the super-sized retard in a leather-gimp suit that Lars simply refers to as “Darling”.
When he says “Enjoying” he means – Fucking our wretched tattered mud-flaps until they were swollen and raw.
Lars is a bitch, a little punk ass crybaby bitch-boy.
Fuck you Lars Ulrich. I hope you get rectal cancer for Christmas.
You should not say “from the pirate bay”. We just learned recently from the trial that pirate bay does not hold any copyrighted materials. I think a better phrase would be “through the pirate bay”.
The internet has effected every business. Killed some, enabled others… you have got to roll with it and figure out how to use it to your advantage.
I am in the computer networking business… rather than make money selling equipment (like we did 10 years ago) it is all in our services to make the stuff work… and keep it working.
Walk a mile in someone else’s shoes. Give Lars a break.
Metallica worked damn hard to get where they are at. They are bit older and from a different generation. He’s not a dick for not wanting people to steal the product he creates…
A lot of you are ridiculous.
Its not pirating if you own the material. So technically he didn’t pirate his own music.
File Sharing is not theft. Music was created to be shared. That is what it is doing. At some point someone created a the idea that music should mean money, the real crime is depriving peoples ears of music. Charing ridiculous amounts for music should be criminal. Until the music artists and industry stops making millions (billions) of dollars I will continue to fight for my right to listen to music. I have bought 9 ablums so far this year, but I still download some too. And File Sharing is not illegal, sharing of copyrighted material is. We need to learn the difference as this copyrighted material, shouldn’t be able to be shared if its copyrighted. Thats not my problem if its mixed in with the legal stuff.
And it should be up to the artists to decide how much their music is worth not the music industry.
rofl @ 30 mins to download an album…
@34
“1. Metallica is still, to this day a number one selling band.”
Could you show me the figures of the sales from Metallica and the rest of the bands/artist?
If I’m not mistaken Michael Jackson’s Thriller is still one of the best sold albums to this date.
I’m pretty sure that even Beethoven is more sold than Metallica.
If you are just reffering to one genre in the total you might be right.
“2 to 5.”
Relative comparision based on your sense of what is good and not.
@6 Thanks for calling me a amateur. I’ve been performing as a visual artist for some 16 years now on stage and I do know a bit about music but I couldn’t write one song if it were to save my life.
Something tells me if you are performing on a stage with musicians and you are being asked to come back again next week you are doing a good enough job.
“7. Napster sucked anyways, get over it.
Maybe but it did get big and caused enough problems it seems.
And nothing last forever not even Torrents. It will be replaced by something new if the occasion arises. And again it is a relative term. You think it sucked other think it didn’t.
“8. The CD format is never going to go away. And people will continue to buy the albums they like. That’s what a responsible pirate does. They support the artists they like so those artists can continue to entertain them.”
Hahahaha. 8Track, Betamax, VHS, Cassette and Vinyl to a certain extend. Don’t let me look up some more examples as they are too many.
“Look, don’t be a common thief, and don’t don’t act like a five year old because a band did something you didn’t like.”
As someone already said you are not acting like a 5 year old when you speak out against something.
Acting like a 5 year old would be more like combined with a complete lack of any arguments.
“If the music is good, shut up and enjoy it. Especially if you didn’t pay for it.”
You are assuming I don’t buy anything just because I download it.
I believe my large collection of orginal movies on my shelves with my collection of music CDs on the other shelves disproves this argument in my case.
If I can make anything out of your post it that you are a fan of Metallica but I could be mistaken.
All the other arguments are too relative and based on your personal feelings towards this band.
Great, now we need Lars to download the Guitar Hero mix of Death Magnetic and compare it to the CD-mastered overprocessed shit version on anything more substantial than $5 earbuds.
“Music will mainly be made for television and other media, because whose going to buy what is free? That’s my prediction.”
Libraries have given away books for free for a long time and it hasn’t stopped people from buying them. The wide availability of music on the internet hasn’t hurt sales of music either.
It’s just new, and the only people suffering are the ones that can’t cope with change. (Read: RIAA)
It seems I can’t use certain characters on this site as a protection against inserting scripts.
Redo of this line…
“Acting like a 5 year old would be more like combined with a complete lack of any arguments.”
Acting like a 5 year old would more like using lots of foul language combined with a complete lack of arguments.
If you are following the court case that that pirate bay is in right now the attorney fighting aginst the pirate bay openly admits that he doesnt even know or understand what or how p2p file sharing works. I find it funny that all the heavy hitters of the p2p war for the past 10 years dont have a clue how the technology works. Patton read romels book and beat him in a tank war in WW2 maybe these assholes should understand what they are fighting before they wrap us computer nerds up in court rooms defending a technology that is aparently above there pay grade.
Eat my ass Lars! ,,|,, (o0) ,,|,,
@85
The record label owns the material not the artist, thats what copyright is there for also to make sure the artist does not go ahead and copy/reproduce material to undermine the corporate structure…..for good or ill
So yes Lars has infringed on the copyright unless Universal gave him Prior consent to copy and distribute the album outside of the corporate structure….which I very much doubt they did as it would cost them money
Go read the …And Justice for All liner notes and you will see that Metallica meats its own definition of selling-out. I’m not surprised Lars Ulrich gave up fighting p2p because he’s a half-asser. He half-assed learned to play drums and that’s his lively-hood. I haven’t bought anything with Metallica on it since the …And Justice For All casette tape and I will never give that loser money or pretend that his opinion on anything is worth more than my morning dung.
@enigmax
this has got to be one of the dumbest guys on this planet…lol
“I sat there myself and downloaded ‘Death Magnetic’ from the Internet just to try it,” he said. “I was like, ‘Wow, this is how it works.’ I figured if there is anybody that has a right to download ‘Death Magnetic’ for free, it’s me.”
and then says “we” so what is it “we” or “me” lol i dont think he know the difference…
In a 2003 interview with Launch, Lars about the band’s battle with Napster, “Most of the time, it’s like a bad dream, like what the fuck was that? [Several] years later, it’s like did that really happen? We went from being somewhat well-respected, well-liked, and then I woke up one day and all of a sudden I was the most hated man in rock ‘n’ roll. It was like, huh? Me? What did I do wrong? I’m one of the good guys”
this guy is finally figuring this out 9 yrs later… lol
@34 go listing to some more Metallica in regards to #7 you really have no clue!!!
napster was the best thing of its time… everything has its time that is why the industry spent so much $$$ on taking it down… not because it sucked…lol
@90:
Take that a step further. Some libraries are already giving out “CDs” and even “DVDs” in a similar matter yet people still buy the originals (especially popular movies as that usually means you have to wait through a queue of well over 100 people and it could be months before you get to watch the movie).
lol @ the bottle of wine. and then taking 30 minutes to finish the download.
@88 “Could you show me the figures of the sales from Metallica and the rest of the bands/artist?”
Death Magnetic was #1 on the Billboard Top 200 chart in the U.S. for 3 weeks. Even St. Anger spent a week at #1, as did Reload. Load was #1 for 4 weeks, and the black album was #1 for 4 weeks. These successes have been similar in other countries as well.
You might have a different definition but that looks like a valid claim of “still, to this day, a #1 selling band” to me.
This doesn’t make a difference. I’m can’t listen to hypocrites. Metallica sucks, they just want to sell their music.
“especially since they perform with symphonies now.”
What the hell is wrong with that?
Symphonic Metal is probably the most kick ass of all the genres.
Without a doubt, one of the most versatile/skilled genres
I stopped buying Metallica albums when they started putting out poorly produced, unlistenable, digitally clippped, shit. I downloaded them and still can’t stomach them. Smarten up, Lars.
@97
Sorry that I have to use a Wiki for the figures but I’m in a bit of a hurry to catch my train and visit a friend of mine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_worldwide
Metallica is in the list but not at the top of it. There are somewhere in the middle of it.
But I agree that their albums have sold well and still do.
I’m just waiting for the hilarious lawsuit against some musician for downloading his own music.
Come on, if they can sue dead people, toddlers, grandma’s without a pc, and networked printers, surely they can sue a musician for that too..?
He does not own the copyright, the record label does. Therefore, COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT!!! Go get ‘em RIAA.
Downloaded his first album in 2008? It took half an hour to download? Dude needs to get off the land line and ditch Windows 95.
In order for a theft to occur, something physical ,ost be denied the owner.. Digital copies do not meet the definition of theft.
I still hate Metallica and he still sux
Yes, actually if anyone does have the literal RIGHT to download the album it would be him. It’s not violating copyright law if you’re the copyright owner!!!!!
That being said, this album as it was mixed/mastered isn’t worth my harddrive space, let alone bandwidth to download it.
They found an easy way to stop people pirating their music… simply stop recording anything people want to hear.
this just made me smile and is surely a good and i even would say “right” sign :)
Lars Ulrich is a fag. I went to install 2 way mirros in his house in Brentwood and he come to the door in a dress.
Lol you know what would be funny? No you don’t know :P.
But what would be funny would be if one of the RIAA p2p ip logging automated systems sent him one of those copywright infringement letters saying he has to pay money ($10,000) lol for pirating the song.
Half an hour to download that shit? OMG.. Get a better internet speed for all the money you get for selling your crappy cd´s!
@Todd–
I was around when Metalicka was breaking in to the scene. If it weren’t for bootleg cassettes, you probably would have never known they existed. Bootlegging got them past Big Radio and the record store (!) chains that wouldn’t carry their albums. ‘Stealing’ brought them fame and lots of money.
Lars and all of the other band members know this sordid little detail, but they choose to be hypocrites. I’ve still got my old CD’s, but I’ll never give them another cent.
@surma , metalica sucks period in your own words they shuldnt be consider radio friendly?
wtf does that mean OH ya SOLD out Napster destroying pirate made rich girlie boy gay pieces a garbage.
YA summed up your a schill like they are and if you sell #1 today does that mean youd have sold a lot for what they do now in a really free market.
NOPE they get pwned.
bunch a twits they are.
down with musicians and actors
I have to wonder what mix Lars downloaded and what he thought about the sound quality. The Death Magnetic mix that I have sounds WAAAAAAY better than the commercial release and includes some solos that were cut out of the album in order to be made “exclusives” on Rock Band or Guitar Hero, not sure which.
Send that bitch to prison, just like the RIAA wants to do with everyone else.
Hey,
The’ve discovered a new way to make money.
MPAA, RIAA and others can only make downloads from their products and later thay sue the site and ask for money based on the number of downloads.
They dont need to sell anything. hehehehe.
Welcome to 2000 Lars! LOL!
Wow, Lars must be living in the past if it takes him 30 minutes to download the album with the modern speeds. :D hahahahaha 56k modem?
Metallica sucks, there music is crap, they’re a dinosaur band that failed to realize how they would alienate their fans.
I’m not a fan of that music genre but still they’re still ass clowns and no amount of pandering to piracy or p2p will save them.
They will always be the ones who were first to jump the bandwagon and get in bed with the RIAA.
he is all over the map as expected. blame it on too many years in pants that were far too tight to be healthy, now proven.
@Whammy
How right you are. I would’ve never had a copy of Kill em All except for finding a bootleg one day. And then I went on to buy a half dozen more.
The facts are shown quite clearly by the other posts here. Some people always pay if they like, others never pay regardless. If the non payers were not able to DL, they would have just went and copied their friend’s discs. I have always been a big fan of Metallica’s music, but have not paid a cent to their cause since the napster incident. Perhaps it was a good thing in that a better format for downloading came about, but I still don’t respect the band members. But if they are willing to change their stance on the whole filesharing thing, I’m willing to change my stance on the whole not not paying for their music thing. If enough people have the same stance, maybe the market can decide rather than the MPAA and ill-informed politicians.
Kiss my arse, Metallica… from someone whose first ever purchased album was “And Justice For All…” on compact cassette (1988?). You pissed on your own bonfire with that whiney Napster bollocks, spoilt pricks!
From: Whoa welcome to the 21st freaking century d00d
To: Lars Ulrich
Date: Sometime in 2008…
message: Welcome to the 21st century d00d!
I think RIAA should arest him for that ‘bizzare’ act ! LOL!
Hypocrite.
MY isp is blocking the piratebay
I can get to the main page, enter what I want to search, then nothing.
I can’ Browse torrents under that section but can’t search.
I can search if I use an online proxy. So what this tells me is that .. I’m losing the pirate bay.. T_T
http://www.campchaos.com/blog-archives/2006/05/napster_bad.html
Anyone remember this classic cartoon? Every time I hear of Metallica it is the only thing I can think of….
Napter Bad…Beer Good!
Kurk Hammet’s little sister went to my high school. She’s such a hottie, crazy beautiful. Maybe I should post a picture if anyone cares…
he may be the “copyright owner” but all of the MONEY that comes from the purchase doesn’t go to him. It goes to the record label, the RIAA, and various other companies involved in the CD. He still Pirated and ripped off the other people involved in its creation, including the other band members.
And for the record “responsible pirates” do exist. I wont pay for music, but movies and games I buy if I like. Movies arn’t always the same (reduced quality, no special features on newer stuff unless you rip the dvd, among other nit picky reasons, Id prefer to own originals of my favorites), and games you usually can’t play online, and are a pain to reinstall, so if I like those I may buy those also as I usually only play online games.
Also anything by Kevin Smith I see in theaters and maybe pirate but always buy his stuff in the end. Working on owning every one of his dvd’s autographed as well
@45
“But I won’t back down on the thief aspect of it. Call it what you want, it is stealing and it’s ethics that dictate this idea to me. The belief that supporting someone who has done right by me, in this case entertaining me. Now, would I pay ridiculous FYE prices ($20)? No. But I support my local music shops and the artists who’ve never let me down.”
I view this as try before you buy. Just a new concept in distribution. Say for example, you buy a cd, you open the wrapper, and you listen to it…it’s all crap. Can you return it? Nope. I could see it being called stealing if it was item that could not be mass produced easily. Take for example, I buy a hoe, and my neighbor borrows it, and never returns it. That would be stealing. If someone legally purchases a cd, and then decides to share it with the world, would that be stealing? The way I see it…nope. A person grabs the album, likes it and then decides to buy it to support the artist. (they get the booklet, the artsy design on the cd, etc.) The artists, record companies still get the profit they would of gotten had the person just gone out and buy it. The only difference at least us consumers, we have more choices available to us. We don’t have to tolerate the garbage that is out there. Let the masses speak up for what they want, it’s called consumer demand. If there is no demand, then the artists bows out and away, if there is demand the artist flourishes. Works out fairly. Now if someone is just out to leech just because they can get something for free, that is an entirely different matter. I’m sure the majority of people though would support the former way of ideology, and would support artists who gave them something of worth. Each person lives by their moral principals.
Why should the internet suffer unnecessary censureship to protect the greedy rich powerful corporations. The internet was founded on the principals of FREE exchange of ideas and information. If we allow them to dictate to us what is acceptable and what isn’t, then we are losing out on the progress of culture, and the eventual collapse of the internet as we know it to be.
Its horrible, musicians will have to make money touring or putting their music up on rockband and guitar hero now.
Massdebate goiong on here
Poor little rich kids….
And why shouldnt they put their music up on ‘Rockband and guitar hero’? I wish i could get stoned all day n sit back wait for the royalties to come in….Ooops…sorry i do….lol
OK, piracy may be illegal, may not. So what? I bet the sales of any record company that says “look, go out and find the music we have rights to, and dl it. If you like it, give money to the artist through us, we take a percentage.” bet the sales would go up, not down. ppl steal out of lack of respect. they caused it. that simple. Fck Lars, steal his shit till he caves. When he calls u daddy, pay him some money as a reward. gotta train the artists we hav no respect for. LMAO, remember, nything I say is a joke. Get it.
What a waste of 30 minutes….
MMMM…..Nope..!!!!
Metallica normally is a waste of 30 minutes…..
I can only imagine that at a 30 minute download, Lars is using AOL dialup. :p
I can download nearly everything Metallidouche has ever recorded in that amount of time.
“His record”?
Sorry Lars, it belongs to Universal. You stole their record. Now go to jail with the rest of the people you tried to lock up.
They need to know when to retire gracefully…Silly crinkly old farts..
How many of em are wearing colostomy bags?…Incontinent old cunts…
TenaLady anyone?……..
@133 the length of your post doesn’t coincide with its insightfulness. you just regurgitated, however verbosely, the most regurgitated talking-point of the pirates.
the definition of stealing is taking someone’s property without consent. you do not have consent to take someone’s intellectual property. you are therefore stealing.
of course, however, your feeble mind noticed the discrepancy between stealing information and stealing materials.
namely, that when you take information, you do not deprive the source of that information, while the opposite is true for materials.
however, just because you aren’t directly depriving someone of their property, does not mean that you aren’t indirectly depriving someone of their property.
entertainment is a product created to make profit. when you pirate a movie in the stead of buying it, you are directly depriving the entertainer profit.
profit is used to buy property, so indirectly, when you are depriving the entertainer of future property.
…moralistic fan-boys are trying to justify piracy! you all are grasping at straws to justify yourselves to society. these talking points are easily debunked by a 13 year old such as myself.
@133 the length of your post doesn’t coincide with its insightfulness. you just regurgitated, however verbosely, the most regurgitated talking-point of the pirates.
the definition of stealing is taking someone’s property without consent. you do not have consent to take someone’s intellectual property. you are therefore stealing.
of course, however, your feeble mind noticed the discrepancy between stealing information and stealing materials.
namely, that when you take information, you do not deprive the source of that information, while the opposite is true for materials.
however, just because you aren’t directly depriving someone of their property, does not mean that you aren’t indirectly depriving someone of their property.
entertainment is a product created to make profit. when you pirate a movie in the stead of buying it, you are directly depriving the entertainer profit.
profit is used to buy property, so indirectly, when you are depriving the entertainer of future property.
…moralistic fan-boys are trying to justify piracy! you all are grasping at straws to justify yourselves to society. these talking points are easily debunked by a 13 year old such as myself.
@133 the length of your post doesn’t coincide with its insightfulness. you just regurgitated, however verbosely, the most regurgitated talking-point of the pirates.
the definition of stealing is taking someone’s property without consent. you do not have consent to take someone’s intellectual property. you are therefore stealing.
of course, however, your feeble mind noticed the discrepancy between stealing information and stealing materials.
namely, that when you take information, you do not deprive the source of that information; while the opposite is true when you take materials.
even though you do not directly deprive one of his informative property when you copy it without consent, you are indirectly depriving him of future material property.
for entertainment is a product created to make profit. when you pirate a movie in the stead of buying it, you are directly depriving the entertainer profit.
you see the connection now… since profit is used to buy property, when you commit this act of indolence you are depriving the entertainer of future material property.
…moralistic fan-boys are trying to justify piracy! you all are grasping at straws to justify yourselves to society. these talking points are easily debunked by a 13 year old such as myself.
^^^
Wanker….hehehehe
Metallica.. Is this the band that at one time was may favorite? The band that I liked so much that I used to buy every CD they put out? It sure is.
Too bad that all changed when they spoke out against Napster. Yea, I downloaded songs.. songs from CDs I owned! *sigh*
I discovered my new favorite band after I downloaded their CD. I liked it so I bought it. I’ve since been to almost every concert they played within driving distance of my home. The lead singer said at one concert that he didn’t care how the fans got the CD. That’s the attitude to have. (Although I’m not going to name the band, I assure you that it is popular enough to be played on all major stations in the US of the proper genre.)
still a douche. 1989, rocked. 2009 just lame.
Is that an anus or a vagina on the cover? wtf?
@Andy – just because it fits your aesthetic paradigm, doesn’t mean it should be legal.
Fuck you Lars!
You are still a piece of shit and music fans all over the world still hate you.
Your music consists of some angry dick sucking guys who have no talent.
Sorry Lars. You are a fucking loser.
lol ‘30 mins later…’
takes my ass 3 seconds a song hehe
GIGGIDY-BAAAMMM!
LOL I GOTTA QUOTE THIS COMMENT.
73 Mar 05, 2009 at 17:52 by sigh
Lars was right. All you grabasses think you’re entitled to copyrighted works without paying for them. You’re wrong. Period. Don’t like it? Lobby your federal governments. Breaking existing law isn’t the fix. Stupid kids.
ITS SO STUPID AND INFURIATING ITS FUNNY, THIS VERY LINE.
Lobby your federal governments. Breaking existing law isn’t the fix. Stupid kids.
lobbying always works
you corparate c–k, boardroom blowjob fucckhole how far away from reality are you?
@ 16…might be HAS BEENS but at least theyve been…you haven’t been and you’ll never go.
Why do we even care? Lars killed Metallica by slapping their fans in the face. Sure, I bought their albums when they were cool, (they are lame as hell now) who didn’t? this shows that Lars didn’t understand jack shit about technology and the power of the internet as a medium to build or destroy his groups popularity. he probably downloaded this album for free because no self respecting music store would sell their shit. Or he is broke ass living in a trailer park somewhere having spent all his glory day money on hookers and blow. Yeah, you suck lars. the rest of you would be redeemed by gutting him like a pig and salvaging the rest of your careers. Wow … been holding that rant in for years! Feels good to let it out. I might just have to go download And justice for all …. hahaha
Still not going to buy your crap Lars. Your not funny either. If I hadn’t had 1 of your concert tickets given to me I would have never gone to see you live. You and the people who claim to represent your interests are the shit stain of the industry. Now your also a hypocrit.
I was once a fan, then you attacked file sharing.
congrats. I haven’t bought your music since.
@82 – Indeed, the Swedish reviewer mentioned in the article could not have downloaded copyrighted material “from” TPB and didn’t even really do it “through” TPB either. The same mistake was made in the original article about that incident. Rather awkward timing for such a slip, considering last week’s trial.
The reviewer probably just used TPB to search for a bundled list of files and servers he could try to contact to find out where on the Internet he might find people currently sharing those files. Such technical correctness is hard to reduce to a single word though…
I just downloaded every Iron Maiden CD … I mean, if anyone should be doing it, it should be me … it was kind of bizarre.
Up The Irons!
Lars is a faggot. I should haunt him until they lock him up in an insane asylum. Boo!
Because no one else buys his album nor would want to waste bandwidth downloading it.
OMG FILE SHARING – SUE THIS MOTHERFUCKER!
“I was like, ‘Wow, this is how it works.’ I figured if there is anybody that has a right to download ‘Death Magnetic’ for free, it’s me.”
Politics aside, This made me lol
@7 Bring it on, the netizens will give you a revolution to remember.
who is Metallica?
@9
you wouldn’t copyright a suing process you would patent it.
just saying — 165 replies and no one has commented on it.
Maybe if he had actually tried Napster back then things woould have been different right now … http://tinyurl.com/cb938n
Can’t see what everybody is seeing in the Black Album, just a cheap rip off of “Smell the Glove”, though i wish that Ulrich would fill in as a drummer for Spinal Tap.
@133: “The internet was founded on the principals of FREE exchange of ideas and information.”
You dumbass idiot, way to make up crap to push your own agenda.
The Internet was founded on a desire to connect mainframe computers in such a way that 1 or more could be put offline without disrupting the ability for other computers to still communicate.
The agency responsible for inventing the protocol was DARPA, a US defense research organisation an dit was invented to negate the communication breakdowns that a nuclear strike on the US would cause.
The reason the internet was founded had precisely nothing to do with principles of free infomation or idea exchange and certainly jacksh!t to do with the general population being able to share files with each other.
Dont make up stuff you silly twat.
@1 HAHAHA! So true
@7 STFU! Go to Hell.
LOL, I wonder if his computer is still serving the files from his torrent shares and he doesn’t even know it. That would be hilarious, I wonder how many copies he’s facilitated uploading both during and after his download.
This story is an obvious troll. Do you expect us to believe that people still actually seed Metallica albums?
We’re on to you, Lars.
LOL he is still probably seeding
LOL
@147-149
talk about very repetitive wow!!!
you are wrong…there is no Fungibility in dling because the main part of the industry makes it that way.
in order to be in violation of the copyright law they must first prove that one does not have a “fair use”. when the industry makes this product available individuals are allowed to copy and listen/watch/ read the material at a later time within “fair use”. it is their burden to prove that u are not within the “fair use” and since there is no law written that says dling a mp3/ video file, ect… online is not within “fair use” the industry is being erroneous to assume such act is illegal.
“Fair use” only covers you if you are copying the material you have ownership of.
When you download a copy you may be downloading the same spngs/fims thatyou have on dvd but it is actually a copy of someone elses cd/dvd and therefore not covered in “fair use”. As you are downloading an “illegal version” it is against copyright even if you own the material in another format
I heard Lars Ulrich died?
@176
im not sure what law you are reading but i am talking about Title 17 of the United States Code
you are wrong the law does not specify that you must own the material to have “fair use”. it is not part of its legal definition.
Metallica and wine? What the hell Lars? I thought you were metal?!
I wonder how he have made friends … ulrich is just a honk!
Lars did not have any real friend!
What’s a honk???
@176
Your crazy. If that aint ifpi/mpaa wackness, Im the pope.
Chryste, folks, it didn’t take 30 minutes for them to download it. Someone showed the poor guy how to start the download and they proceeded to get more drunk and went back to the computer after what Lars later estimated as a half an hour or so.
Gotta give the guy some credit for being able to resist development as a drummer through decades of touring.
This story is like an non-funny south park episode.
On a side note, I love roasted parsnips.
vj EoN, it was a generalization. I don’t consider everybody here to be an immature punk, but let’s be honest with ourselves, everybody browsing this forum doesn’t exactly project an intelligent image.
@133 the length of your post doesn’t coincide with its insightfulness. you just regurgitated, however verbosely, the most regurgitated talking-point of the pirates.
the definition of stealing is taking someone’s property without consent. you do not have consent to take someone’s intellectual property. you are therefore stealing.
of course, however, your feeble mind noticed the discrepancy between stealing information and stealing materials.
namely, that when you take information, you do not deprive the source of that information; while the opposite is true when you take materials.
even though you do not directly deprive one of his informative property when you copy it without consent, you are indirectly depriving him of future material property.
for entertainment is a product created to make profit. when you pirate a movie in the stead of buying it, you are directly depriving the entertainer profit.
you see the connection now… since profit is used to buy property, when you commit this act of indolence you are depriving the entertainer of future material property.
…moralistic fan-boys are trying to justify piracy! you all are grasping at straws to justify yourselves to society. these talking points are easily debunked by a 13 year old such as myself.
@177 “you are wrong…there is no Fungibility in dling because the main part of the industry makes it that way.”
You are a sophomoric fool for using the word “fungibility” incorrectly, capitalizing that word, and generally making no sense. It seems only the idiots think my argument is fallacious.
@188 I agree with your argument.
As for the word fungibility… all intellectual property is completely fungible. I have no idea why 177 brought it up.
But he obviously debunked your entire argument in one sentence, one totally irrelevant to your argument that pirating is stealing.
then he starts to talk about copyright infringement and “fair use”. Talk about incoherence. He sounds like an extremely inarticulate Pre-Law undergrad.
@2
“Lawd, who even pays attention to these fossils anymore?”
lol they still better than that moldy brittney spears vaginal fluff you listen to… penis puffer.
@188
i can see you are a very bright individual. im sorry you dont like me for disagreeing with you.
its ppl like you that believe that fascism is the answer to mans problems today. you sound like a wanna be bureaucrat. you may not agree with me but that is the way your ideals are coming out.
im sorry you could not understand what i was saying about the law before but the info that i have shared with you comes from supreme court case law in the usa. because a mp3 is not main stream and you can not goto your local store to buy one…at least in 90% of the usa’s market it would be considered that there is little fungibility for it (sorry about the cap before my bad) and when it comes to on line for the kids, one must have a method to pay for it if they can actually find it on line forsale.thus a digital video or audio recoding (mp3 or avi)has little fungibility (as the supreme court calls it) then “fair use” tends to step in.
in order to say one has stolen intellectual property one must first prove that you have in fact suffered a loss. just making claim you lost because someone dls your copyrighted music is not enough… you must prove you actually suffered a loss or the person dling has made a gain. furthermore the gain must be of a profitability. if i am dling songs and then selling them to my friends i have violated the law.
since an individuals personal use is classified under law as a nonprofit use im making no profit in the dl it is not steeling it is “fair use” the laws are not written as the RIAA likes to interpret them in their favor understandably.
@188 thanks for the compliment!
Metallica = Douche
The only people I know who haven’t tried P2P yet are my grandparents. At least they know not to keep making albums.
once again, seriously..
Metallica = Douche!!!!!
@ #7 Oh? Ok, well, are they going to take down Gnutella?
Fastrack?
Millions of FTP servers?
HTTP servers?
F2F Programs?
Forums hosted in far away countries?
Rapidshare and other sites like it?
You’re an idiot. File sharing will never die. And I know for a fact torrent technology will not either.
Also, @ 188…
No one cares that you can use a thesaurus, stop calling yourself a 13 year old genius. Because again… No one gives a damn.
” “Fair use” only covers you if you are copying the material you have ownership of.
When you download a copy you may be downloading the same spngs/fims thatyou have on dvd but it is actually a copy of someone elses cd/dvd and therefore not covered in “fair use”. As you are downloading an “illegal version” it is against copyright even if you own the material in another format
”
Omg did you kids even go to school?
Fair use is a doctrine in United States copyright law that allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders, such as use for scholarship or review. It provides for the legal, non-licensed citation or incorporation of copyrighted material in another author’s work under a four-factor balancing test. The term “fair use” originated in the United States, but has been added to Israeli law as well; a similar principle, fair dealing, exists in some other common law jurisdictions. Civil law jurisdictions have other limitations and exceptions to copyright.
It has NOTHING TO DO WITH DOWNLOADING ANYTHING, stop bringing it up, it has no merit in a piracy based discussion.
Downloading is piracy, but it’s not THEFT.
In criminal law, theft (also known as stealing or filching) is the illegal taking of another person’s property without that person’s freely-given consent. As a term, it is used as shorthand for all major crimes against property, encompassing offences such as burglary, embezzlement, larceny, looting, robbery, mugging, trespassing, shoplifting, intrusion, fraud (theft by deception) and sometimes criminal conversion. In some jurisdictions, theft is considered to be synonymous with larceny; in others, theft has replaced larceny.
You’d be hard pressed to find a pirate that downloaded a movie or song, then promptly went into the store and started lighting the retail copies on fire, that’s about the only way it’s theft, you have to deprive someone of something.
All you half baked kids that are barely literate are NOT helping the situation. Shut the hell up and go read a damn book and leave the good fight to those of us that understand the law.
” “Fair use” only covers you if you are copying the material you have ownership of.
When you download a copy you may be downloading the same spngs/fims thatyou have on dvd but it is actually a copy of someone elses cd/dvd and therefore not covered in “fair use”. As you are downloading an “illegal version” it is against copyright even if you own the material in another format
”
Omg did you kids even go to school?
Fair use is a doctrine in United States copyright law that allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders, such as use for scholarship or review. It provides for the legal, non-licensed citation or incorporation of copyrighted material in another author’s work under a four-factor balancing test. The term “fair use” originated in the United States, but has been added to Israeli law as well; a similar principle, fair dealing, exists in some other common law jurisdictions. Civil law jurisdictions have other limitations and exceptions to copyright.
It has NOTHING TO DO WITH DOWNLOADING ANYTHING, stop bringing it up, it has no merit in a piracy based discussion.
Downloading is piracy, but it’s not THEFT.
In criminal law, theft (also known as stealing or filching) is the illegal taking of another person’s property without that person’s freely-given consent. As a term, it is used as shorthand for all major crimes against property, encompassing offences such as burglary, embezzlement, larceny, looting, robbery, mugging, trespassing, shoplifting, intrusion, fraud (theft by deception) and sometimes criminal conversion. In some jurisdictions, theft is considered to be synonymous with larceny; in others, theft has replaced larceny.
You’d be hard pressed to find a pirate that downloaded a movie or song, then promptly went into the store and started lighting the retail copies on fire, that’s about the only way it’s theft, you have to deprive someone of something.
All you half baked kids that are barely literate are NOT helping the situation. Shut the hell up and go read a damn book and leave the good fight to those of us that understand the law.
Anyways, how can I sue Lars over this?
@194 and 195
not sure why u need 2 posts but each to there own… you like to ramble insults off the tongue and seem pretty good at it better then me i must say! but that seems to be your limit. i hear you rambling what is your ideal set of morals but i see no hard facts. i would love to see what you facts of law are thus far i have seen none…you most certainly have been brain washed by the likes of the RIAA.
the whole napster thing is why i havent listened to a metalica album since… theyre just money grabbing bastards
You knows really pathetic.. these tools on here that there only comeback is pointing out spelling errors and small grammar errors.. who the f*ck cares loser get over it.. pay attention to what the person is trying to say..
Yet again more d-bags constantly trying to argue that downloading is stealing..
“It’s a terrorism of the mind that actually sustains concepts like intellectual property. It’s a terrorism that’s grounded on an idea of brutal repression of that which is actually possible.” – Lawrence Liang
Just because someone thinks they can copy a ‘thought’ or ‘idea’ infinite amount of times and sell it like its gold doesn’t mean you have a god given ‘right’ to. It also doesn’t give anyone the ‘right’ to persecute people for obtaining it without paying for it.
The fact that there are laws that attempt to justify these ridiculous concepts is a sign of greed and terrorism.
File sharers are here to put a stop to all this BS, and you can come up with whatever retarded excuses and claim we are just justifying stealing.. I don’t care.. in the end we will win and you losers will have to get a real job.
@191
you’re the bigger douche, metallica have done more for me than you will ever do.
@197
yeah god forbid they actually want money from the product they make … what sellouts
seriously you sound like a stupid tool saying things like that
Metallica made a mistake and the know it. Their popularity went down after 2000. I wish them luck to recover from this because I’m more likely to go to NIN concert then Metallica. They [b]use to[/b] be cool
Actually I’m more likely to go to a AC/DC concert. :)
seriously, why if ur in a band, would you want ppl getting ur music for free? can you blame them? you fuckers need to get ur facts straight anyway cuz the only reason metallica got in on the whole anti napster thing was because shit they weren’t finished with got leaked…
i hate all of you… may you all die horrible deaths
The critical literacy filter application cannot verify the authenticity of this article:
1. 30 minutes to download an album=not a very popular torrent or needs to set up port forwarding.
2. If you use bittorrent: you would definitely remember which client you used.
3. Who is Metallica? Don’t download their songs so don’t know who they are.
Result: Publicity stunt to get people interested in their music.
@202
You know what IS cool, listening to music because it’s “considered” cool. Go back to whacking off to boybands and grow some puewbs ya frikin poser.
Yah, I’m sure this was Lars’ first time ever using a BT client to download music. Just to “see how this works”. Right. Softened hell. Artist only whine about file sharing when they’re on the verge of becoming irrelevant. ~M
Album art looks like a magnetic vagina.
I said it back in 2000 and i’ll say it again now your still a fucking asshole lars nothing will ever change that
The music industry is changing. The record labels used to make all their money from album sales, but now because of dl-ing they’re bleeding funds. There are new companies out there, like LiveNation, that are modeled to make their money off of concert ticket sales. These companies are going to be at the forefront of the future industry, they are designed to keep ticket prices where they are approximately but produce tours on the cheap. The record companies are trying to make the switch as well, but I feel that some may not be able to make it and will probably be bought by new companies similar in style to LN. I think that this is going to bring about a better industry and better music. Only artists that can draw a crowd from the very outset will be signed and we’ll end up getting rid of a lot of the crap that has been marketed, packaged and dumped on the public (think NSYNC and Backstreet Boys, they were created by record companies to sell albums). So keep downloading everyone. And start going to shows, that’s the only way we can win the battle for the right to dl for free.
big peace of shit.
2 good albuns in his entire career, and hes worried ?
don t be, youre no pink floyd or goodsmack, youre just a pathectic bastard.
looooooooolllll
Well, if he had been in Germany downloading the album would have been illegal.
Awesome, so now RIAA can sue him too!!!!!
i think that universal should sue him!
metallica has so many great tunes, who can compare?????
@98 – The Dark Side of the Moon was in the top 200 for 15 years.
I don’t recall any metallica being in the charts for that long…
I bet he’s seeding the Megadeth discography right now at maximum speed.
“Even Lars Ulrich knows it’s wrong!”
–”weird Al” Yankovich, Don’t download this song.
Could you write an article about me as well? I’ve downloaded content I created myself and other which I contributed to, too. Though I was sober as usual when I did, so it didn’t feel bizarre at all. If you’d like, I could try again after snorting a line. Deal?
Still a douchbag. Lars Ulrich from 1985 would kick his ass.
Oi Lars! You owe me 90 cents…
Ha ha how interesting to read all the comments on here from the Britney generation dissing Metallica… these little kids probably don’t even realise that a lot of the music they enjoy now only exists because of the work done by these older bands.
Now get off here and go and listen to all the remixes that you all assume is great NEW music!
It’s sad that it has come down to this. Lars has lost so much money because of piracy, he has turned to it so he can hear his latest albums. Poor guy…
Rest In Shite Metallica.. stop making noise. Just remember to seed bitches.
(If they seed their own album, is it still illegal for people to download it since they are knowingly and willingly giving it away?)
Addition to my post just above. 30 minutes? If you still have money, get a better connection!!!
for all those who keep saying he DL’d in 30 min, that’s not what he said. he said hi had it in 30 min, it prob took him 29 min to fig out how to right click and open the torrent file.
Correction: for all those who keep saying he DL’d in 30 min, that’s not what he said. he said he HAD it in 30 min, it prob took him 29 min to figure out how to right click and open the torrent file.
well if he can do it, then what’s wrong with us doing it? He doesn’t technically own his entire album, producers and record industry own a stake in it.
So effectively, he broke the law and stole from record producers.
Thanks lars, you have finally given us the green light that says it’s ok to pirate :D
if it wasn’t for early “peer to peer sharing”, formerly known as “passing around bootleg tapes of their shows to your friends for free”, no one outside of the seedy bars in which they used to play would know who metallica was. they didn’t seem to mind their music being shared until the truckloads of money starting showing up at their doors.
Pass the wine. I’m a faggot.
If he used bit torrent, he must have seeded as he was leeching. So he was uploading it to other people. Not just Dling himself.
Nice hypocrisy.
“he and half a dozen friends were enjoying a bottle of wine”
Yeah, right. 7 guys and 1 (one) bottle of wine.
16 references to this post
Responses are closed
All remaining responses will continue to be archived. Use the TorrentFreak forums if you want to discuss something.