MPAA and RIAA Call for Copyright Police State

Ernesto
April 15, 2010
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Just days after the U.S Government acknowledged that the entertainment industries have misled the authorities with bogus piracy reports, the RIAA and MPAA are using those same statistics to convince the copyright czar to transform the Internet into a copyright police state.

mafiaa The PRO-IP Act is a United States law that aims to toughen current anti-piracy measures.

As part of the Act, President Obama appointed Victoria Espinel as the new copyright czar last year. Espinel announced a public consultation a few months ago, looking for comments and suggestions from the U.S. public on how to deal with piracy.

For this consultation the RIAA and MPAA have now jointly submitted (pdf) their suggestions, calling for a future without piracy.

As expected, the submission starts with bitter complaints about the massive losses the entertainment industries have to endure because of online piracy. The same old bogus studies and reports are cited, publications that were heavily criticized and labeled as inaccurate by the U.S. Government earlier this week.

What follows are a set of recommendations that, if they become law, would turn the Internet into a copyright police state. The EFF has cherry picked some of the most draconian recommendations in a recent blog post, but these are just the tip of the iceberg. We highlight some of the suggestions below.

If the RIAA and MPAA had their way…

- The public would be encouraged to install anti-piracy software on their computers which would monitor their network for copyright-infringing materials. They are most likely referring to the Digital File Check application that they’ve been plugging for a while.

- Internet service providers would have to allow third parties to spy on the files that are transferred by their customers and check them against a reference database of “fingerprints” to check whether the files are infringing copyright or not.

- Torrent sites and file-hosters would have to preemptively filter content that is uploaded to or indexed by their sites. The reasoning behind this suggestion is that the regular notice and takedown procedures are time consuming and ineffective because content quickly reappears.

- Search engines, hosting companies, payment processors, advertising agencies, social networking sites and domain registrars would be encouraged to team up with copyright holders in order to prevent online piracy. The purpose of this collaboration would be to cut off sites that ‘facilitate’ copyright infringement.

- Consumers and websites that repeatedly infringe on the rights of copyright holders would lose their Internet access.

These are just a few of the recommendations that are listed in the submission. It is quite clear that the copyright industries want full control over the Internet by building a copyright police state. Let’s hope that the politicians responsible for drafting the legislation will use their brains, instead of blindly accepting such proposals.

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Binary Bandit

So much for online commerce and banking if this happens. The entertainment industry think they are the only ones worthy of consideration.
Ya right! It will never happen.
Anonymous

oh yay joy and thrills of things to come.
TheSpark

Who cares, even if all these things were applied the drop in the piracy rate would be: 0%
Michael

Frankly the problem is that by and large most politicians are completely lacking in technical knowledge when it comes to computers.
TheSpark

Adding on to what I just said: Piracy is becoming more and more decentralized. This means that there will be no “sites” to shutdown in order to prevent piracy.

ISP file checks? Not going to work, even if implemented there is something called encryption that would defeat this.

Software to install on your PC? HAHAHAHAHA, Like any of us will install that.

Preemptive removal of content? You can’t remove decentralized content.

all these efforts will fail, and in the end just make piracy easier and safer.
guyfawkes

vote PIRATE!
Anonymous

So much for human rights, profits are given higher prority than the good of the common people.
hybrid-god

As long as they(rigaygay/mpgaygay) keep continuing to waste money on things that do not work, than I really have no problem with it. :)
Nick Taylor

There’s a nice little video of a guy in New Zealand describing what copyright is actually for here

http://www.bodg.it/2010/04/voices-of-reason/

I made it myself etc. Hope he doesn’t mind.

Anyway – it’s such a simple concept that he had to repeat it a couple of times throughout the day before the full import struck home… in a nutshell:

“Copyright exists to maximise the production of creative works, in the public interest”

That’s what it’s for. It’s there for the *public interest* – not to protect private profit”
dncholas

The only way this could ever happen is if all ISP’s allowed this and the one’s that do would lose all customers to the one’s that don’t unless was made into law and find it a little crazy for the government to implement legal spying on all internet connections like the NSA (US) was doing with AT&T. Nobody, including non P2P users, would allow and accept totalitarian controlled internet. Never happen. This will be left to the anti piracy groups to continue their lame, full of holes campaign against people which isn’t effective. The UK already has something close but just use a VPN and forget about it!
mmmunf

rofl. bunch of idiots.
Jigsy

How long will it be before the British gov’t quite happily drop their pants, bend over and spread their legs in order for this to become law?
Taylor

This is brutal, it would completely lock down everything. Copyright is there to encourage creativity – bullshit, humans are naturally creative. We will always produce creative works even if its non-profit because we can express our emotions and our thoughts in an interesting and unique way.

Forcing checks to databases is insane. First it would slow down the internet to a crawl, servers would be bogged down with checking requests. This is also a large personal risk, the information stored on the servers is never secure, even if they have the best protection available there is always a hole. Large hacking groups will all be searching for this hole because of the information it contains, personal data, ip addresses and quite possibly MAC addresses as well. If hackers would be able to do this they would have an open door to just about anyone’s computer, and a possible identity theft.

These bastards are terrible. This is insane and if its voted in I would move to a different country, this is not free rights and infringes on the internet’s concept.
Anonymous

Unsurprisingly, the content industries want to turn the Internet into a content delivery platform, and only a content delivery platform.
HACKERS UNITY vs GOVERMENT DICTATORS

I’d like to see them try…!!! every hacker in the world will unite and then we will bring ALL of the goverments computers DOWN..!!!
anon2

@#12. not long! they learnt how to do that over the DEB, so wont have any problems with this!
i wonder how many people will slag me off now? i have been saying for months that the ultimate aim of the copyright industry was to have complete control of the internet. looks like the US is going to be the first place to succumb, unless Obama sees exactly what is going on. the copyright czar will be bending his ear even as i write! wonder what extra incentive she will have been given?
Borderline Voter

If they quote these losses as being true then perhaps they should pay tax on these loses, after they claim a product is stolen, and if it has been stolen then it must of be made therefore should be used to tax.
Anonymous

Oh shit! The SS are back!!! MAN THE HARPOON!!!!
Reasoned Mind

Why not just stop infringing on their copyrights? Just pay if you want it, or pass if you don’t. Just like material goods and services.

They’d have nothing to complain about and we’d be likely to keep our freedoms and our privacy.
I don’t want to lose online freedom, but freedom doesn’t exist so you can infringe and that seems the point of these Tf posts.

It’s piracy that is compelling all this, y’know.
Unauthorized Content Consumer

I wouldn’t write off the RIAA and MPAA as idiots just yet. It’s like chess. Very slowly and painstakingly they move their pieces in place one by one ever so slowly so that their opponents have no idea that they’re in any trouble. Before you know it, they have their pieces all over the board and then they own you and everything else.

They can already do whatever they want. Every little law that passes is another of their chess pieces moving in to place. Give them time and they will eventually own the entire internet including your computer.

One example is Apple. Do you think you own your iPhone, Touch or iPad? You do not. Apple controls and owns everything that you do with it, and with a click of a mouse they can delete anything they want on a product that you paid for. You don’t own an Apple, Apple owns you. Go ahead and read the entire user agreement that Apple makes you agree to when you use their products.

The RIAA/MPAA would like nothing more than to be like Apple. They would like to control everything that you do on your computer, on the internet and inspect every single 0 and 1 that goes on and everything that transfers to and from your computer.

It’s all about making as much money for themselves, and leave the burden and expense for the governments, law enforcement and the tax payers themselves. They don’t care if it leads to someone committing suicide, if some widowed low income grandmother or impoverished students life is ruined. They don’t care about us.

I’m damned if I’m going to care about them. I’m going to continue downloading and sharing with everyone that I know. I will continue to teach and encourage everyone to do the same thing for as long as they can breath.

It’s the many millions of us against the very wealthy and privileged few.
Anonymous

There’s no way this will come to pass.

Some of those are major privacy concerns.

Hopefully the copyright czar will notice that all of the data provided by the RIAA/MPAA is completely untrustworthy and only works to bring in private profit, while beating down on the public.
Hoboapple

this makes me rage
Anonymous

This seems like a desperate attack from a beaten opponent. Maybe after they lose this they will finally leave us alone?

For every draconian law there will be 100 people who not only break that law, but actively encourage others to do the same.

A friend of mine once told me, “The government is one step ahead of the public, giant corporations are one step ahead of the government, and devoted lawbreakers are three steps ahead of everyone.
theamp

My guess is that MPAA/RIAA is just a front for the US Gov’t to do even more invasions of your privacy.
Yeah Right

Not in their wildest dreams… LMAO
FatGiant

Hmmm…

“Let’s hope that the politicians responsible for drafting the legislation will use their brains, instead of blindly accepting such proposals.”

Sorry m8, they will use their wallets… And everyone knows that wallets makes you do some amazing things. Think, what does she has to loose, that MAFIAA can’t give her twice over? It’s a done deal. That specific person was nominated to that position just for this.

It is as good as approved, and then ACTA is next…

BBye…
Gargamel

LOL YOU AMERICANS ARE FUKED!

Like this wont pass lol! Who are you fooling. This is the same Country that shoved through the Patriot Act, and then crammed the FIRST set of copyright laws down their throats with Bush in power and it slid through like a hot knife through butter lol.

Land of the free my @ss. ROFL.
Binary Bandit

@ 26 Apr 16, 2010 at 01:29 by Gargamel

“This is the same Country that shoved through the Patriot Act, and then crammed the FIRST set of copyright laws down their throats with Bush in power and it slid through like a hot knife through butter lol.”

Ya know, this is correct. I lost all hope of Americans (I am Canadian) standing up for freedom etc when the Patriot Act was passed. The terrorists won when that act was done imo. Either that or the US Corporatist government set it up (the terrorism) to accomplish their evil ends.

‘Nuff said!
Kirkpad

It scares me that I’m only a border away from internet madness. The last recommendation is the scariest, as it really cuts to the chase in terms of what the end goal is. They want the scared-straight users to use the internet for only the most sane minded reasons.

This will cause mass uproars in which 1000 people will pool together to pay for a single dvd and just send copies to eachother.

This will essentially create a “pay it forward” effect of data sharing, where we don’t even use the internet. We just copy it 5 times and tell 5 people to copy it 5 times as well.

Problem solved.
RU For Real?

@16
“unless Obama sees exactly what is going on”

This guy isn’t serious is he..
Bubbles

@5 TheSpark

“Software to install on your PC? HAHAHAHAHA, Like any of us will install that.”

I don’t think you would have a choice. ISP’s would give you a VPN client to dial into their services. If you don’t use it you don’t get on. In that software is the monitor.

These MAFFIA people are crafty. They spend ALL their time thinking how to screw you over. How to get what they want. They have LOTS of money to buy the best people to implement these methods. They don’t need to know how it works. Just that it will.
The Butthurt Locker

Piracy will be completely removed from the internet just like child porn and terrorism.

Oh wait those are still here lol.

You know this whole thing is probably a plot by Hollywood pervs to make a second encrypted net. Where the pedos roam free and they can easily donate to their buddies in Al-Quaeda.
Capt. Copyright!

I wouldn’t be surprised if this passes considering how easily the “Patriot” act was sent through. Weren’t the Patriots a bunch of people who came over on a BOAT and then proceeded to claim the United States as their own? you can say the Patriots were pirates :D.

These copyright laws will never work. People will always find a way to circumvent the copyright bullshit. No matter how many laws are passed, people will still break them. Being a US citizen, I hope this doesn’t get far enough to be passed.

Keep track of this though, as the government may start to sneak in some of it, with other bills, until eventually it is all in effect. The MPAA/RIAA aren’t complete idiots, they just don’t understand technology as well as us pirates. As long as we all stay steps ahead of them, the pirates shall always prevail.
DeltaPan

As i’ve said before.

If governments are really acting on behalf of the people, the many, not being influenced by the greed of the corporate few.

A third way philosophy would be employed and progressed as the way forward which keeps both camps happy, fairly.

My concept of “Compliance through co-operation”, where only temporary copyright is placed on new films, music, games and software’s, as per my proposed frameworks, all no longer than 6 months from release, then copyright ends and material becomes publicly available, in the case of games and software’s, until next versions are released or 6 months of only one version is ever to exist.

then box offices and traditional retail and hire outlets realise primary profit margins and programme compilers and developers etc earn creation costs on current versions.

Then after the temporary copyright ends, next versions of games or software’s are released, torrent sites, cyber lockers etc can allow them to be upped.

Any new media or games, software is taken off by torrent site, cyberlocker site admin and mods or else be in contravention of compliance policy.

I think that is fair enough myself and would happily live with it.

People want new releases, you pay, those who can’t afford material because of low income, unemployment whatever, or simply don’t want to pay, wait until creators etc have realised a primary profit uptake period to get freebies, i’ve suggested possible timeframes.

I know a minority of hardcore filesharers won’t like that, but it’s a fair enough way to progress and the industries may not like it but have to face a fact of life, material does not earn huge profits ad infinitum, after about 6 months residual profit uptake is on a downward curve to a slow trickle so any losses would be negligible and anyway, if retail prices were fair to begin with, less people would be downloading anyway as people do prefer proper disks, do prefer to see films in cinema etc, but more and more people simply cannot afford to do so in today’s societies and taking actions against society such as is the nature of this item, it is simply wholesale victimisation of society and denying huge sections of society the decent quality of life such media etc affords and which the nature of consumerism compels everybody to desire through powerful advertising formats, which denying middle to,low income and unemployed peoples that media has so many sociodynamic negatives which affect those elements of society, especially families and younger people.

you throw powerful advertising at everybody and people simply cannot afford to pay to live and afford games and films etc, how do governments expect people to react, now the genie is out of the bottle, stopping it by draconian laws and punitive legal actions is just cruelty to so many people.

This is the 21st century and the digital age is here in no small way.

The only fair way forward is a 3rd way which caters to media creators and society both, i don’t think my suggestions are that far off the mark, the world has changed and corporates need to understand that and we have to understand the creators of digital media have to make some profit else those industries will stall.

TV shows, well antipiracy have got a bloody cheek even considering those as illegal filesharing, subscription or not, aired to TV, it’s public and fair enough when immediately uploaded!

IMHO, if governments cannot legislate to some 3rd way which is fair to everybody and instead legislate to empower completely punitive actions which only serve to make the rich richer in these times of a changed global economic climate, they are not fit to call themselves governments, but will prove themselves to indeed be elitist fascists as conspiracy theorists accuse them of being, society does not exist to create a minority of rich elites while society suffers ever more, governments have a duty to ensure fairness, only a third way does that.

Peace. : )

Pax-Delta-Pan

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Cujo

quote: a future without piracy

i didn’t have to read any futher

dream on!!

or give the folks what they want
someone

What a bunch of fucking retards.

BTW, fuck Obama. His cabinet has so many fucking assholes with ties to the RIAA and MPAA.

I’ve been a pirate for over ten years. I’ll be one for the next 80.
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Anonymous

This won’t affect P2P users much, except maybe drive more of them to use VPN to protect themselves.
gorehound

What a bunch of asses they are.I hope that news like this and other stuff we read will be enough to get the lot of you to stop supporting this industry of greed.
i only buy used movies and i will never purchase any music from any label/band who have signed with riaaa or other type organization.

these riaa/mpaa folks have a lot of frakken nerve to propose stuff like this.who the hell do they think they are anyways ?
Anonymous

“I don’t think you would have a choice. ISP’s would give you a VPN client to dial into their services. If you don’t use it you don’t get on. In that software is the monitor.”

Yes we will have the choice. We will have the choice of not using an ISP and to switch to a p2p wireless network instead. Software already exist. While this type of connection will still give you access to internet it is conceivable that p2p wireless networks might eventually overgrow an unattractive internet censored by corporations of parasites and rogue governments.
Hollywood is your enemy

Looks like the MPAA wants to make themselves the personal problem of every internet user, pirate or not.

Finding new ways to hide from them is a waste of time. We need to directly attack the industry, whether it’s by boycotts, heavy censorship or local bans. Ban them from advertising on our streets and remove their products from stores.
Anon

A recording industry + hollywood pipe dream. The people who devise this crap are delusional.
Dave

“Let’s hope that the politicians responsible for drafting the legislation will use their brains, instead of blindly accepting such proposals.”

Well given the nuffy we’ve got in Australia called Stephen Conroy, who seems hell-bent on ignoring the wishes of thousands of people, and is trying to legislate an utterly pointless internet filter, it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if said politicians blindly accept the proposal.
mathew

ok hang on, so the whole reason the mpaa and riaa came chasing after these criminals for all these years , was becuase of the claims of piracy destroyign the industries they are protecting. AND now thats been called out and proven to be total lies about the lose and the fact they have no proof of lose at the hands of piracy, the mpaa and riaa, now are throwing their toys out of their prams and are thinking, well if were screwed doign what we thought we could get away with it, well why shouldnt we just go the next step of shutting down the net as propsed by a few people in recent years, and to which why not police the net in every way cuasing the lieks of google and yoytube (yes i know same company) and go after them in every way possible just becuase they host a link to another site .

hmm, me thinks if that went to court that would be another nail in the coffin for both mpaa and riaa.
johnathonmerritt

@30
The software thing would never work. It would be no more effective than DRM. First of all, most of us that know what we are doing will just find a hacked version anyway. Plus, what are they going to make software for? Windows? Mac? What about X-Box Live? They may add it, but not the PlayStation Network, Wii’s network, or Linux. I have been learning to use Fedora 12 lately because I want to make sure that when Microsoft plagues Windows with anti-piracy software, I can still do what I want with Linux.
DataDuden

I ain’t installing any “scan for pirated files” on my computers.
DanielRemains

Damn, I just came back from the past (well 5 years ago). WTF happened with this planet? War here war there fight here fight there you sue me I sue you is that the new friendship?
Nikolai

Nothing to worry about here. If search providers exclude sites people are looking for, people will move to another search provider. Simple as that.
Anonymous

@19

idiot…*slams door*
Anonymous

actually BORDERCHECKS are already in the works in the ACTA TREATY – please read about acta..
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Ice

God i am happy i am not living in US of A.
Ninja

o man, I should ask them for some of that weed they smoked… wild hallucinations..

I wonder if US democracy is really for the demo (people in Greek if memory serves) or it’s just an empty word. The Patriot thing has shaken any confidence. Maybe this’ll come to deliver the finishing blow?
Arb

Times i am happy i had a box in another country and …

[R] AUTH SSL
[R] 234 AUTH SSL successful
[R] Connected. Negotiating SSL session..
[R] SSL negotiation successful…
[R] SSL encrypted session using cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256 bits)

so no sniffing of my downloads.
Anon

What the heck? This would basicly mean the whole Internet would lose it point if everything uploaded needs to be checked first by another party.
Anonymous

Hollywood waited a decade to pull this off and in that time pirates went from a small number of warez downloaders to everybody with a computer. If the industry wants to wage war on the general public it won’t end with a locked down internet, it will end with the bankruptcy of Hollywood studios. And an end to their corruption of American culture.

Afterwards the Hollywood degenerates and pirate groups who love their crap can go cry together.
Sceptre

Our government states the truth behind these wild lies… they have not lost money. It’s as clear as a bright sunny day. Get over this shit and OFFER A WAY TO DOWNLOAD BY PAYING. Otherwise I will continue to watch my favorite tv shows right here at home when I get off work by downloading. I will continue to “sample” new music and if I like I buy it(Wish I could send the artist the money directly though)

They have finally showed just how ignorant they really are… they even combat the governments conclusions. It’s like saying that words are copyrighted…. nonsense as always and most news articles I see on here. Not the articles themselves just the shit they pertain to.
airhead

anybody seen my dog?
BigM

They didn’t last time when the pro-ip act was passed. It was the night before the august recess and they passed greater than 90% and they all went home with campaign contributions
Dowload.

They gonna accuse file-sharing community of :

• Pedophilia
• Necrophilia
• Cannibalism
• Anti-semitic
• Racism
• Terrorism
• Over 9000 thousand raping penisism
Yarick

Remember these are just the highlights too. That means that there are probably far more than what was shown here.

None of those things would stand up to the courts anyways. They seem to forget about the constitution.

Next thing you know they are going to want 3rd parties to open up all of our mail to make sure that we aren’t sending flash drives to each other with material that is under copyright. They will also want to read our mail to make sure we don’t string any two words together in a way that they probably have a copyright.

Big Brother is watching you.
Wolfy

@59

Actually they did put that in the same proposal. I checked up on the RIAA’s proposals on a few other websites – Torrentfreak didn’t mention two things

1. Border checks of all electronic devices – You’re listening to your iPod and Customs agents yank it off you and check that you’ve bought the songs on it, etc.
2 – The RIAA wants tax-payer funded FBI squads to help protect movie releases. So basically, Agent Joe can be just about to land that big drug bust, but then his boss calls, “Hey, Iron Man 2 is about to be released, the movie producers want you and a thousand other agents to watch the copies that go out to the cinemas, to ensure there are no leaks”.
Anonymous

Any laws that require filtering smacks of censorship which is completely unconstituional, not that Obama the stupid n gives a rats a$$ about the constitution.

Technology makes a lot of laws obsolete by the time they pass. Most of the suggestions are already moot. There are no US based torrent sites so no us law would apply. Isp filtering is impossible not to mention unconstitional and and filtering tech would be defeated the day it started. It would be a collosal fail.

I think a better way would be to draft a law to force all copyright holders to make thier works available in digital form on the internet or lose it. They should also set a stnndard copyright fee for digital works so anyone could sell mp3′s without rediculous contracts. After all anyone could open a record store so anyone ought to beable to sell mp3′s not just f’ing itunes
Swap memory cards

These MAFIAA folks are idiots, in the old days we swapped tapes with music, bulky yes, and it required face time. Fast forward to today, I swap a 1TB hard drive with music and video with a friend, they in turn then give that 1 TB to all their friends, piracy will spread QUICKER than via the net, all it takes is a hard drive party, easy as pie, and we have a great time swapping stories, drinking beer, heck the bright side of all this is that the MAFIAA will force us to have more “face time” not a bad thing for the development of social skills.
whateffff

This is some serious threat to us.

It is serious ONLY that they do BELIEVE in those rules.

How can people allow them to even have their opinion?
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vintage

“The public would be encouraged to install anti-piracy software on their computers which would monitor their network for copyright-infringing materials.”

Can it be downloaded from a torrent site? After I upgrade to an apporved system with the required spy chip and buy a copyright aware OS i won’t be able to afford any of these morons new software.
Artemis

They are out of their minds. These cocaine sniffing bastards from MPAA and IFPI consider themselves some kind of justice police. LoL. I will never obey their control-insanity. In their offices they can spy on their mindless slaves, so-called employees, but the internet is at no time a place that could be considered theirs. What really drives me to incandescence (see red) is their arrogance towards the major part of internet users. The MPAA and IFPI (if I was sitting outside I would spit at every use of these letter combinations) are ridiculing themselves.
anonymous

i find it hard to understand how the entertainment industry is managing to get away with actually doing nothing itself, with no cost to itself to try to alleviate the problem it says exists, even tho’ there is so much independant proof to the contrary, and every other industry, company and person is being hit in the pocket in one way or another. the ‘i dont care what it costs or what happens, as long as it isn’t me but you that gets it’ is really disgraceful! why dont all the ISPs, web sites, search engines and every other internet user join forces and simply say ‘enough is enough! stop or be stopped!’ if they want to stop what they insist is happening, dont keep condoning it by doing nothing to help themselves but relying on and forcing others to do their work for them, especially when it is detrimental to other businesses.
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Anonymous

This goes through – we will just become even more secrative, don’t you understand MAFIAA – The Scene is un-f*.cking-stopable – stop trying… and who in their right f*.cking mind would install a program which would mean that they would be instantly sued if they go on a site and copyright infridge without realising?
JonnieHayward

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Art cant be contained by copyrights——>

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133t

this is ridiculous, but is going to happen unless ppl make a effort and make it a public and worlds wide issue , hurt politicians where it hurts mosts bad publicity and lost votes , other wise just bend over and get butt f***ed by them.
dannyboy

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$AMERICA€€€€€€€€€€€€€€
J

This is actually a quite clever move by MAFIAA.

Almost all governments will think that this suggestion is WAY to strict.

MAFIAA will then send out a new proposal that isn’t as strict, but still enforces their will.

Then the same governments will say ‘We would rather take proposal 2 than live with proposal 1′ and MAFIAA wins another battle.

Like someone said earlier, it’s a game and MAFIAA holds the aces (money, influence, lobbying).
Kruel Wurld

Apr 16, 2010 at 08:40 by Wolfy
@59

Actually they did put that in the same proposal. I checked up on the RIAA’s proposals on a few other websites – Torrentfreak didn’t mention two things

1. Border checks of all electronic devices – You’re listening to your iPod and Customs agents yank it off you and check that you’ve bought the songs on it, etc.
2 – The RIAA wants tax-payer funded FBI squads to help protect movie releases. So basically, Agent Joe can be just about to land that big drug bust, but then his boss calls, “Hey, Iron Man 2 is about to be released, the movie producers want you and a thousand other agents to watch the copies that go out to the cinemas, to ensure there are no leaks”.

I would not be surprised if they have strict check-posts everywhere. Forget about criminals go after the copyright infringers, use taserguns on maximum current settings or better still shoot on site. These douchebags are absolute morons. They live in cuckoo land. Money is everything to them not the creative work BS. How many yachts, mansions, islands do they need?
qwerty

this is the NWO wish list. Next is the microchip implant to scan your thoughts and arrest you before you commit the crime of “piracy”.
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS

America was founded because it breached copyright law –

Hollywood was founded because it disregarded copyright law -

The game is up you tossers, targeting the very people who put you in the position your in is going to be the death of this copyright SHIT!
anonymous

the easiest way for ‘evil’ to win, is for ‘good’ to sit back and do nothing. the ‘industries are getting away with these atrocities because they have the nerve, the gall to try to get their terms implemented. no one is challenging what they want to do. unless internet companies like Google, facebook and even microsoft step up to the plate, the entertainment industry will achieve all they have been after from day 1. that is going to have a drastic affect on all other internet companies. the main reasonindividuals have home computers is to use the internet. if it becomes so restrictive, in the ways the ‘industries’ want, to use the ‘net’. people wont bother to have computers, wont need broadband and wont be buying goods via the net. and everyone is going to be paying for the priviledge of having the retrictions imposed! unbelievable!!
Pico

There’s a different kind of terrorism, one that doesn’t blow up buildings by running into them with a chest full of bombs…. it’s called corporatism & capitalism. I’d argue it’s a much worse kind of terrorism, effecting people much more deeply and in more areas. Sadly, most don’t give a sh|t
Peanut

Comments are so boring, same thing every post, yawn. from the “this will stop everything” to the “its not going to stop anything”. “FIRST” and “Piratebay FTW” posts are more entertaining.
However ill post my two cents, haha. Some people will be fined, some lose their internet privileges and some go to jail but the majority will continue to download. The war on piracy is no different that the war on drugs and the war on drug has been around a lot longer and a lot more money and law thrown at it. How hard is it for you to get cannabis or cocaine?
Devanite

#19 you seem to have a reasonable mind, so elt me inform you of this, since you do not seem to care about your money I will give you my checking information and you can just deposit your paychecks directly into my account.

No company regardless of what is happening to thier business has the right to trample or even TRY to trample on the freedoms of others (Unless you have millions in a cash briefcase… apparently)

You apparently have missed the whole discussion about whether or not people would even pay for music and movies regardless if they had the ability to download them or not!

If everyone stopped sharing via piracy, large corporations and thier arms (Such as the RIAA and the MPAA) would still want you to do business thier way and thier way only. Apparently the business model of meeting the customers demands has left this planet, please move to the next one for better service, more rights and a voice that counts!
lverona

“Consumers and websites that repeatedly infringe on the rights of copyright holders would lose their Internet access.”

What if I do not consider myself a ‘consumer’? Can I download material then? =)))
DeltaPan

75 Apr 16, 2010 at 14:29 by anonymous

And Microsoft/Bill Gates, should remember this.

If he/they didn’t breech copyrights, patants and hack tech etc, MS would never have come into existence.

Absolute truth that is, plenty of historical information around which explains his shenanigans as he built Microsoft and shafted so many people to get where he is.

So as MS and BG have been siding with these anti filesharing oiks to implement antyi copyright breech sub systems into it’s operating systems etc, he should understand he built his corporation through breech of copyright and hacking tech, so is an utter hyprocrite, he wouldn’t exist today as the multi billionaire he is if what these copyright fascists want to do in the present, was happening a year or two before Micosoft became his company after slitting with Mackintosh/Apple.

OK for him to have built a software empire from it, but everybody else is so wrong, says it all really.

Peace. : )
DeltaPan

if what these copyright fascists want to do in the present, was happening a year or two before Micosoft became his company after sPlitting with Mackintosh/Apple.
BIOS

If the masses support piracy, shouldn’t it become legal? Isn’t that the whole point of democracy, to reflect the beliefs and ideals of the people?
Anonymous

all mpaa and riaa members and their families should be gased end of story.
TerribleTony

@83 Don’t be so horrible, what are you, a Nazi?

The RIAA and MPAA are just doing what they know how to do, they can’t possibly win, so don’t worry about them, they’ll just have to spend a little less on champers.
hiddengaze

Firstly…Reasoned Mind is -clearly- working for the RIAA, and needs banned. This has been apparent for a long, long long time.

Secondly, if they wanted public comment, why wasn’t that posted with a link? Political Action groups routinely send hundreds of phone calls and tens of thousands of letters to various people, why can’t we? All we have is numbers, all we have is the people…us…

If we don’t use that power, our only power, we deserve to loose.
Andrew Smith

BIOS – of course the ‘masses’ support piracy. I’d ‘support’ a supermarket that gave me everything for nothing.

Well done you, for saying the complete bleeding obvious.

Your second sentence does rather display your complete ignorance of the world we live in, though.

What about the ‘beliefs and ideals’ of the people creating the music, films and software you enjoy so much?

Cue ignorant comments from torrentfreakers saying all copyright is evil and the industries that create the products you consume (yes some good, some bad, idiots) are all evil as well.

You. Are. A. Bunch. Of. Imbeciles.
Anonymous

Hollywood doesn’t want to coexist with the internet. Forget about making them accept fair copyrights. The only way to win is to attack them by any means possible until they’re bankrupt.
HelterSkelter

If Hollywood et al really want to keep hold of their precious wares,then either stop producing all movies or keep them to be screened only to the actors and crew involved.And fuck off messing with the rest of the worlds liberties.Would I really miss them? NO.
Anonymous

Andrew Smith – If the price of allowing the MPAA/RIAA to create their products is network filtering, spyware and wasted tax dollars, then yes they are evil and deserve to be eliminated. They’ve produced nothing of real value to society and have now used their profits to become a corrupting influence on the government.

Funny how the makers of software applications, the only people you mentioned who don’t produce mindless drivel, aren’t lobbying to destroy the internet.
Whatever

@”They are most likely referring to the Digital File Check application that they’ve been plugging for a while.”

Not going to try to download that malware so i assume that it has to be a Windows application, the following things will be banned:
- Unix
- Linux
- Apple hardware
- Most NAS devices
- Many modem/router devices (with HDs or USB ports)
- FreeBSD
- Beos
- ARM based devices
- All media devices with WIFI/Ethernet.
- Satellite receivers with ethernet
- NDS
- PSP
(and a lot more i suppose)
neb

The public would be encouraged to install anti-piracy software on their computers which would monitor their network for copyright-infringing materials.

That is already happening….

Bravo GAO

Keep up the good work!

neb
neb

It’s called M$ automatic update
in.cog.nito

They can suck a dick.

Just because they can’t adapt to new marketing models, they are trying to infringe on my personal life, and rights?

Fuck that.

It’s time to kill the dinosaurs.
DeltaPan

Yup.
DeltaPan

Yup @ 92 Apr 16, 2010 at 20:21 by neb not 93 Apr 16, 2010 at 20:22 by in.cog.nito, post jumped one. WTF!

Manual update instead of leaving systems vulnerable, but be discerning and understand what each update does, there’s options in Control panel -> Auto update where you are notified which ones to download, or turn off and manual on MS update site.

Don’t stop completely, you need to patch vulnerabilites etc, but watch what you do allow to install from MS.

All can be looked up, or ask where people will know.

That isn’t FUD either.

Peace. : )
DeltaPan

Didn’t refresh page in 25 minutes “Yup” post, oops.
- – -

Bet not many of you guys know that nobody actually owns a Windows operating system and the small print allows them to alter them remotely.

People pay and assume ownership but nobody actually own one except MS corp’.

I mean some buy one or buy upgrades to old OS’s, some buy ‘puters with pre-installed and assume pay good money, own it all, nope, you essentially lease the Windows OS, which is why a lot of people who know that switch to open source.

I’m Win XP, but when i notice things i sort my system out, all too many people are unaware and don’t do anything, they need to maintain their systems better because a lot of what happens on a Windows platform has statistical analysis factored, they say as a legal notice that nothing to identify you specifically is collated, but that doesn’t stop them looking at their operating systems that you are using and saying we are not allowing our property to be used that way, through changes of unique codes every time somebody installs to fresh volume, wiping out what they’ve done, then seeing deselection of updates etc when updating from installations to fresh volumes, they get the message and don’t bother as much and we’ll be targeted in other ways more directly, but those who do not regularly clean drives etc and fresh install, they will try the easier methods of altering Their operating systems they own which you are using.

Sounds unlikely doesn’t it.

But perfectly true.

You can check it out through legalese analysis of small print in your Eula’s etc.

John Harris mentions about legalese and needing to understand it.

I knew about MS owning OS’s not us users long before i saw his material, but it’s the same sort of thing he mentions about contracts and actual ownership of things we consumers purchase and how legalese obfuscates things in plain sight in his “Freeman Lectures – John Harris” torrent, on TPB or search DHT for swarm access.

Peace. : )
Anonymous

wow
1984 anyone?
Morpheus

This would be the birth of the Matrix.
TRYER

While there goes every search engine and every video site.

The internet was fun while it lasted. Time to sit on a wood floor and not do anything.
Swap memory cards

Yes Orwells 1984 indeed, North Korea is a shinning example of that, perhaps the west is so envious of North Korea’s success at controlling their peoples that they are using the same template which is Orwells 1984.
me

#41 Anon: “The people who devise this crap are delusional.”

Well, as movie makers, they ARE the masters of illusions, aren’t they? ;)
me

#96 DeltaPan: Bet not many of you guys know that nobody actually owns a Windows operating system and the small print allows them to alter them remotely.

Fortunately, there are free alternatives to Windows OS (Linux, the BSDs, OpenSolaris, etc., etc. etc.), so there’s always a way to escape software-controlled madness at the OS level. And if you need a Windows program, just run it under wine, or in qemu, VirtualBox, VMWare etc.
Lostlands

@96

Another reason for never buying a M$ OS. Paying for something you dont own would be utterly stupid, wouldnt it?
stud

next: thought police
kate128

check out http://www.kate128.info

PassThePopcorn’s staff member’s homepage! Invites!!
anonymous

F**K this they don’t have the right to police to internet, so what if someone downloads something they are trying it out. The Mafia is just so damn greedy they want laws to police the internet and when this will happen no one will buy anything and they will be BANKRUPT …lol Then they will think f**K piracy was helping are business now we messed it all up!!

Yes hackers and everyone else are going to find alternatives, but policing the internet is like a NAZI party for real F**K this !! — GO READ HISTORY ABOUT HITLER — MAFIA is trying to be the next Hitler of the internet. — Mafia you are going to EPIC FAIL!!
Anonymous

Interesting addresses this page tries to access. PeerBlock doesn’t allow them. Be warned that you are tracked when you read TF!
Trelew

Sadly, this attitude doesn’t surprise me. Especially coming from the corporate-friendly USA. As one of the corporate stooges has said already

“It’s piracy that is compelling this, y’know”

Sorry Reasoned Mind (see oxymoron for giving himself that name) but its corporate greed that is driving this on, not internet file sharers.

The reason we exists is so simple. It is a public protest to antics of Big Business. Such as:

- corporates are the real reasons that everything is so inflated. They make things dirt cheap (especially if they are made in Third World countries) and sell it real high markup so that the corporate elite wallow in the wealth. With the rising costs though, you prevent people from buying the product. If you had reasonably priced something in the first place, then people would file share as much.

- Big Business corrupt governments and courts. There are a lot back room deals made out of the public eye because most governments operate under a culture of no transparency and no accountability. So it’s easy for corporations to bribe officials to get corporate-friendly laws passed and “show trials” in the courts.

- The abuse the media to their own ends. Journalism has been replaced with corporate propaganda. They tell public blatantly obvious lies about profit loss, internet piracy is all connected to organized crime, they are doing it for artist’s, and so on.

The criminal tactics of Big Business has invited public outcry and action against them. Unfortunately, complaining to politicians is not going to do anything because they are not going to listen. Even ISP are going to buckle either through litigation or corporate takeover. Once ISP are their control they’ll just change the user agreement and cut you off without having to give a reason.

It’s corporate-run world baby, and we just get screwed by it.
MPAA

MPAA’s CEO and Chairman is Dan Glickman. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Glickman.

Born: November 24, 1944 (age 65)
Wichita, Kansas
Political party: Democratic
Alma mater: University of Michigan
George Washington University
Law School
Religion: Judaism

You better watch your back file-sharers cos the Mo$$ad’s will come after you!
GalinKinlin

Hey, to the idiots who said this wouldn’t drop piracy, are you blind?

If they took away your internet after repeated offenses, I think that might stop you from pirating. And yes, I realize that you can just encrypt everything, or find a proxy, but the people using limewire are stupid enough to be using limewire. It will most assuredly stop them. Granted, it may not stop seasoned torrenters like myself, but it will stop some.
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Yaro Kasear

I’m against piracy. However, that doesn’t mean I’m foolish enough to think these measures will work. However, it’s STILL a problem because, like any other copyright protection measures the MAFIAA pulls out of their collective asses: It screws over honest users. Badly.
yo guv

dont believe the media companies.
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Sanity_Vocal

Just out of curiosity, if the MPAA and the RIAA wants all these things done for a virtual police state of affairs for the internet, why not hand the whole internet shebang over to them? They can monitor all they want, censor all they want, send warning letters all they want. PROVIDED, they pay for all the infrastructure of neccessary supercomputers required to monitor the WWW, hire all the staff neccessary to monitor the WWW, pay for all the electrical, electronics and manpower costs required, pay all the penalties and infringements from false actions, etc.

And yes, from all the civil suits for infringements to personal data from the billions of users of the internet.

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