MPAA Will Hunt Down isoHunt Founder for Life
Written by Ernesto on July 13, 2009After a win against TorrentSpy the MPAA is determined to silence isoHunt and bankrupt its founder Gary Fung. MAFIAA lawyer Steven Fabrizio guarantees that if they win the case, the movie industry will relentlessly hunt down any damages owed to them for the rest of Fung’s life.
Where the RIAA is mostly interested in pursuing individual file-sharers in court, the MPAA has taken on several of the largest torrent sites on the Internet. After being awarded $110 million in their case against TorrentSpy last year, they are now focusing on the next target – isoHunt.
isoHunt founder Gary Fung is not intimidated by the movie industry scare tactics that started back in 2006, and he is willing to fight until the end. “I’m doing this for the future,” Fung said recently, while explaining that isoHunt is not much different than search engines like Google.
“When we talk about copyright we should be more forward thinking. It is a huge issue for the culture. The current state of copyright might not be the future state. And there’s increasing adoption of BitTorrent, even by large media. That is a glimpse of the future,” Fung commented.
The MPAA has a totally different view on the matter, and sees torrent sites as commercial operations with the sole intention of cashing in on copyright infringement. Steven Fabrizio, the MPAA lawyer who also represented the RIAA in their case against Napster is very clear about MPAA’s battle plan.
It is not so much about taking the site offline, the ultimate goal is to scare those who operate BitTorrent sites by pursuing exorbitant damages. In their case against TorrentSpy they continued to push for damages in court even though the site had been taken down, and now they are coming for a piece of the next torrent site.
isoHunt has no plans to discontinue its operations voluntarily, but should they lose in court against the MPAA and ordered to pay a fine, Fabrizio promises that the movie industry lobby will do everything it can to come and collect.
Fabrizio is well aware that Fung wont be able to pay millions if isoHunt ends up losing, but the MPAA is patient. “The judgment doesn’t go away. If Gary Fung creates a legitimate website, we’ll be there. If he sells that company for $100 million, we’ll be there. For the rest of his life we’ll be able to pursue that judgment,” the MPAA lawyer told the Financial Post.
The comments made by the MPAA lawyer and their dealing with the cases against TorrentSpy and isoHunt almost suggests that this is a personal vendetta of the entertainment industry lobby.
In the case of TorrentSpy the MPAA is indeed keeping its word for now. TorrentSpy owner Justin Bunnell was ordered to pay a $110 million fine last year after the court terminated the case against the movie industry. This decision is currently under appeal but the MPAA has already started pursuing the awarded damages.
In isoHunt’s case a ruling has yet to be made so all the talk about damages is purely hypothetical. We hope that isoHunt scores a victory, but it is not an easy battle in a country where lobbyists and Hollywood funded politicians are in power.
Previously: Top 10 Most Pirated Movies on BitTorrent
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187 Responses
For life seems a mighty long time
These guys are crazy, isoHunt rule.
Judgements expire after an amount of time, which varies from state to state.
F to the MPAA. They can suck a big one
Wow his life will be monitor for ever. Thats scary to know that everything you do is been watch so they can attack you.
Steven Fabrizio is an asshole making business into a personal issue
what if filesharers were to make this a personal issue and decide to pay Steven Fabrizio and his family a visit before he paid them a visit
Steven Fabrizio grow up you twat
http://www.h33t.com lolz
Scaring doesn’t work, and closing this site won’t help.
Security will only go up for everyone, and things will just decentralise more. More and more people get used to pirating with every day the industries wait, and they just dig a deeper and deeper grave for themselves. Adjusting to the new digital age is the only solution.
This just shows how self-centered the MPAA really is. They don’t care about the consumers, they hate competition, and they don’t give a single care about the Artists they “claim” to support.
The entertainment industry is just feeding the hate of the next generation of cyber terrorist against them.
Any one have Steven Fabrizio personal details?
Address? Phone Numbers? Relatives?
They’re driving everything underground to the point where everything will be secretive and everyone will be untouchable by the RIAA/MPAA. ;)
His details
http://www.lawyers.com/Illinois/Chicago/Steven-B.-Fabrizio-2924336-a.html
“The judgement doesn’t go away“
Neither will we a$$hole!
How pathetic to try and ruin one man’s life over greed!
You can email him at sfabrizio@jenner.com :>
@12 Thank for the info.
Hey look there! There’s a Send Us Email link.
Well, they did ask! LOL
Wouldn’t mind if these guys were lynched somehow. Kind of pathetic to go to such an extent against a normal person to get money. Pretty much reconfirms for me why I will never in my entire life pay for media again (perhaps, only directly to artists etc.)
Hahaha, that crazy Gary Fung! ;) Unfortunately, he appears to not have all the facts understood correctly. IsoHunt is completely different from Google, in that their intentions are entirely dissimilar. Google provides links to any and all content, while IsoHunt sole purpose is to provide links to torrent files, which by it’s turn is mainly intended on illegally sharing copyrighted material.
*feelings of hate building*
Hard to stay objective if these destroying terms are set.
wish someone would hunt down the MPAA for life, see how they like it.
Someone should post this to 4chan /b/
They may take it into their own hands.
lol.
Somehow I doubt Fung really cares about half assed psychological threats from some movie industry goon. It’s a big world and there are many many countries that don’t give a rats ass about the americon legal system or their judgements.
The MPAA’s statement has sealed there fate..
quote it everywhere.. they are obviously only out to ruin lives.
MPAA.. we will destroy you.. every.. last.. piece of you.
YES! hunt him down and take him out. make an example out of him!
@Mister Paladin
Right, because you understand the site better than the person who owns and operates it.
@21: you’re one of the few that got it right. He can always go to another country and piss on MPAA.
Hell, if i’d start having problems like him, i’d put most of my money in a distant country bank and give nothing to MAFIAA.
“but it is not an easy battle in a country where lobbyists and Hollywood funded politicians are in power.” So true who do you think paid Obamas election :D
Goddammmmn the MPAA! I agree with neo.styles – quote them everywhere and spread the RAGE
@4nd: Far from me to assume myself as an expert! ;) However, given that it is an interpretative instead of technical matter, I do believe I am fully qualified to provide the proper explanation. Furthermore, as an reputable impartial, non-partisan observer, I am certainly more apt to present the Truth than Mr. Fung, who has a vested interest in having the situation misinterpreted as such.
@3 judgments do not expire but the length of time someone has to try and collect through the legal system does. usually its 3-5 years depending on which state you are in. i think the entire situation is stupid. basically this guy will be hassled for the rest of his life by creditors if he loses. major annoyance really. they know damn well the average person couldn’t pay millions. especially if they aren’t making any type of profit for alleged copyright infringements.
@Mister Paladin
Alright, then. How much have you used isoHunt? How well do you know the members of its community, especially its staff and administrators? What data do you have concerning torrent downloads from the site, and leech/seed statistics? What do you know of the site’s history? Its plans for the future? Do you know the site’s political motivations, if any, and has that knowledge come from a qualified first-hand source?
In order to interpret something, you do have to actually know about it. You must have facts to interpret.
I wouldn’t exactly call you impartial. Your posts come across as anti-filesharing. So please do not claim neutrality when you post.
@17 – Paladin
so say they shut down ISO hunt.
where do I go when I want another copy of windows to install, I have licenses but I never keep the dvds I burn.
what about if I don’t want to find the cd for a game that I do actually own, or I want a faster way to download free content without hammering the hosts servers or any of the other stuff I legally use bit torrent for?
also the way isohunt operates is the same as google, google stores plain text url’s to various sites which may or may not be legal
isohunt stores .torrent links to trackers which may or may not reference illegal data
I am sorry but that is like shutting down google because people use it to infringe your copyright/fight your government/whatever you don’t like and you feel that it was created for this and the majority uses it for this.
claiming isohunt is designed for illegal use just because its based around bittorrent is like saying google is designed for illegal use just because its based around http
both protocols are used for illegal purposes
“The judgment doesn’t go away. If Gary Fung creates a legitimate website, we’ll be there. If he sells that company for $100 million, we’ll be there. For the rest of his life we’ll be able to pursue that judgment,”
wow… just wow.
I’m guessing this guy has a statue of him self in his front lawn… he seems like that kind of an arrogant pompous ass.
@17 – Actually you are wrong. Isohunt is pretty close to the google search engine, and is like youtube and such. In fact it has a copywrte policy http://isohunt.com/dmca-copyright.php Basically it states that everything on isohunt is not monitored and if something violates copywrite policies ask nicely and it will be removed. But that isnt going to help much as it wil probably be put up again.
As far as I know Isohunt does not function as a tracker.
the only ones that should be bankrupt are the MPAA theirselves
ISOHUNT rules! MPAA can make all the threats, but nothing will work for them. They have stopped Napster and Torrentspy, but we are still sharing files at higher numbers like never before. It will only expand rapidly and more sophisticated as technology improves in the future.
Gary Fung is the man! God blesses his heart and his life for the great service he has provided world wide. Stand firm and fight them mafia gangsters.
Steven Fabrizio will die sooner than expected. I will be reading about his death reports on TorrentFreak.com. Oh, and no one will miss his ugly ass in hell.
Long live ISOHUNT!!!!
You know what file sharers should do?
Go after the riaa dna mpaa and all the companies they represent.
Investigate there dealings in all manner of life.
Gather evidence of what they have done both legally and illegally to get there way.
Make a list of everyone they have donated to and have then ruled or campaigned in there favour.
When all the evidence is gathered create the largest class action suit in multitable countries simotaniously.
Have millions signed up to the class action suit, have the multiple charges against the companies from price fixing(cd’s and dvd’s are nearly always the same price that’s got to be fixed), all there illegal abuses of there customers and people they represent.
Drag them into the light and show the world what they really are.
-Jay
they are the mafia there’s no question about it, and its one we need to get rid of one by one.
Support isoHunt, Jesus certainly would.
@4nd: As I previously stated, this data is largely irrelevant for the matter at hand, namely to interpret the intent of the site. As for my impartiality, well, all I can say is that my reputation backs up my claims; I have always, and will always, side with the Truth, whether it favors one side or the other. Many look at me when they are not sure whom to trust or listen to, for I am a beacon of reason and objectivity in this foggy sea of disinformation.
@Murdats: I have no doubt both of us legitimately use IsoHunt for legal and justified file-sharing. ;) However, the vast, overwhelming majority of users (as well of torrent files) have the one and only intent on their minds: to illegally acquire and distribute copyrighted material without paying the producers of said their due, rightful share. How can any person, while acting on Good Faith, possibly accept thee site’s claim that they are genuinely intended on fighting online piracy, when the very site hosts what can only be described as a cynical “wash of hands”: well take the offending files offline, but it will be useless, as on the next moment it will be put back on again?
@ 35: I´m IN on that! ;)
@Paladin of Bullshit
“IsoHunt is completely different from Google, in that their intentions are entirely dissimilar. Google provides links to any and all content, while IsoHunt sole purpose is to provide links to torrent files, which by it’s turn is mainly intended on illegally sharing copyrighted material.”
Intentions?
Intentions count for jackshit, although it’s quite amusing you’d try to claim that the intentions of IsoHunt and Google are any different, when in reality they are very much the same. Their intentions are to simply index links.
The only difference is their scope. IsoHunt only indexes torrent files, while Google indexes torrent files in addition to every single URL it can get its grubby little hands on. The end result is that Google indexes more links to copyright infringing material than Isohunt, Mininova, and The Pirate Bay combined.
If indexing links to copyright infringing material makes you guilty of perpetrating copyright infringement, then Google is the largest perpetrator of copyright infringment in the entire universe.
Just Google for: pirates of the carribbean torrent
And then try to tell me with a straight face that IsoHunt is any different. Although I’m fairly certain that won’t stop you from fabricating more bullshit that Google is oh-so-dissimilar from a torrent index, which is pretty funny since Google is a torrent index in and of itself.
@Mister Paladin
Seriously?
You just go ahead and believe that. :)
I regret wasting minutes of my life to read and respond to your posts. I even regret writing this right now.
You want to debate? Do it without acting like a little kid. That “I am the Righteous Warrior of Justice” BS is just going to get you laughed at.
The need to go after Google too.
I can search Google for copyrighted audiovisual content “transformers filetype:torrent” (without the quotes) and suddenly I can find places to download the movie.
But then I can go to ISOhunt and search for open source legitimately free “ubuntu 9.04″ (with the quotes) and I can download the disk image.
Why the disparity? Because the RIAA/MPAA knows that Google has more powerful, richer and fatter lawyers than they have, and the ISOhunt guys have very little or no money to defend themselves.
Yep. Those RIAA/MPAA lawyers are powerful and brave alright. uh huh.
neo.troll must be just wetting his panties at the prospects of ISOhunt guy getting sued for the rest of his life, and yet he has no sympathy for the granny that doesn’t even know what an audio or video file is and she gets sued for her entire pension.
What an amazing world we live in.
Private torrents ARE the future…!
Peoples do not sped money on retail media!
Save money by sharing content and use that money to go to concerts and live shows where the artist will benefit from it.
Isohunt does not have the largest torrent database, but the interface is very good, compared to many.
Isohunt even removes many popular torrents on the specific request of the copyright holder, yet they are still out for total war- pathetic.
@ARP
No ISOhunt is not a tracker, we do not operate as a tracker. The only thing ISOhunt does is meta searching other trackers. Which as some of my investigations conclude, INCLUDE swedish law firms ;) as well as some trackers originating from china which as I understand is forbidden. Any other ppl willing to help out, look through the tracker list and see for yourself
you pirates are a bunch of thieving turd-burgling wimps
we took down your holy piratebay, we prosecute you in your 10s of thousands, we pown your dirt nappy asses
now we are gonna take down all your beloved sites and you are powerless to stop us. we are the law and we have God on our side
look how you turn on piratebay by calling them sell-outs! you couldnt organise a poo party in a bucket. you are all losers. get a life! get a job! stop thieving other people’s property!
Why dont anyone sue that bastard lawyer for making those kinds of threats?
oh wait America.. nvm..
Make an example of his wife and family.
His details:
http://www.lawyers.com/Illinois/Chicago/Steven-B.-Fabrizio-2924336-a.html
Fag needs to be taken down.
LOL @ 46 obvious troll.
LOL @ S. Fabrizio- His right-wing Capitalist extreme tirade certainly fits his nerdy looks and parted quaff.
somebody should scare the mpaa lawyers too
The MPAA just might as well give up. For ever site they shut down and person they go after, 10 more pop up. It’s useless.
ndustry insider… do you know what a indexing site is you fool ?
Notice how the MAFIAA appear to win virtually every case they take on in court? Leads one to believe the judicial system is highly prejudiced against the common man. I firmly believe the legal system in many countries have now fallen into disrepute owing to their complete inability to deliver a fair a balanced verdict. Revolution is born of injustices such as these.
My boss says isoHunt is guilty. I don’t get paid if I don’t kiss his ass.
Well then so is Google guilty http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB309GB309#hl=en&rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB309GB309&q=Rolling+Stones+MP3+free+download&aq=f&oq=Rolling+Stones+MP3&aqi=&aq=f&oq=Rolling+Stones+MP3+frree+download&aqi=&tbo=1&fp=57rZfYYBopA
Paladin of truth = Paladin of Shit
exterminate all mpaa members
People download free videos and music all the time from streaming sits …Take this for an example http://www.playlist.com/ you can download the music streams in it…
its called bankruptcy
This thug is from Chicago, and anyone living in the state of Illinois knows how corrupt most of these guys are. I’d not doubt they have a troll or two waiting to defend them & their thug like ways. After all they are just after money, power, and fame. Well Mr. Steven B. Fabrizio, since I became disgusted with the RIAA,MPAA, and the likes of your kind, I have totally stopped buying movie tickets, New DVD’d, and anything associated with that industry if it can make any type of profit for them. I used to buy at least a couple of DVD’s per week, go to a movie once or twice a month, sometimes more. I only wish many people would boycott your employers.
They have gone about this all wrong, they could easily draw up a more than profitable business plan to make things work. They just don’t have smart people running things. Instead they have suits who have no clue. I have a hard time believing this hurts them as much as they claim, they have had record profits.
Now for a little info on this guy and his ties. Just google him, I got creative and added some big names. They all scratch each others backs. They have their priorities in order in this country!!(Not really) I mean Biden tried to make it a federal felony to share a file, I did not know this until today. Some kid could have been jailed for a file when killers ger charged less.This has gotten far out of hand. It makes me sick because there are better ways and more important issues, especially today. If a large number of the people just stopped lining the pockets of these jerks for 6 months it might then hit home. It does sound like this jerk has a hard crush on himself. I’ll keep my money and find better things to do until they change tactics. Lawyers want you to be in court, they make money only if you are really. dragging out court case after court case and using loose technology will eventually backfire, at least I hope. And I think I am or was not on either side until I really began to look at the stunts they have pulled and how much tax money is funding these witch hunts and new laws. Now I am on the side of our God Given Rights. We are losing too many and they all count.
From a former MPAA/RIAA customer.
If you don’t be careful you’re going to make too many examples of tracker administrators and people are going to stop being pissed off about obvious injustice, and start fighting for justice.
another one bites the dust
another one does
another one does
another one bites the dust
If ever there was a good reason to ‘pirate’ material, the MPAA just gave another one.
The malicious and arrogant actions of this mafia lobby deserve just one reaction: to download and seed as many files as possible.
No Pasaran!
I wouldn’t be surprised if they took Google to court for assisting in copyright infringement.
Sad truth is that there WILL be some money being exchanged to favor the MPAA or a biased decision against isohunt.
Power wins everything, and in the US the entertainment industry dominates.
@20
Kill yourself.
“MAFIAA lawyer Steven Fabrizio guarantees that if they win the case, the movie industry will relentlessly hunt down any damages owed to them for the rest of Fung’s life.”
Man, this is SOOOOO dumb a strategy, it boggles the mind.
Are these guys really that stupid?
Don’t you just love how technology is making our lives into a nightmare? Used to be if you owned your neighbor some money, he’d probably forget about it after about 10 yrs. With computer databases, the debt can be sought after for the rest of your life and maybe in the future, passed down to your kids.
Movie industry is SHIT. Death to all moviestudios!
I wonder if Fabrizio’s law firm could be attacked with the same DO$ attack proposed by TPB? Someone needs to make Steve realize that excessive internet faggotry will lead to serious butthurt IRL
he can stay at my place
@ 20 Jul 14, 2009 at 01:13 by Sez
Someone should post this to 4chan /b/
They may take it into their own hands.
lol.
@ 20 , I couldn’t figure out how to post to http://www.4chan.org . Perhaps someone here knows how to post the article there?
MPAA = FAGS 4 LYF
Couldnt we almost say that th MPAA is now making money of pirated goods?
Hypocrites I tell ya
This is such crap because isoHunt does not have any content held on its hard drives, all it does is collect and group trackers!
It’s the actual tracker that link users to a particular bit torrent file, all isoHunt does is answer a person’s search request. If I’m looking for a magazine, a song, a tv program, a movie, etc.; I just type in the name. IsoHunt just groups the various trackers that are running for a particular bit torrent I’m looking for, what law are they breaking?
It’s no different than people trying to buy illegal drugs. There’s a person in the park that everyone goes to get information on who is selling what. This person carries no drugs on him/her and does not sell drugs, you just ask, I’m trying to buy marijuana. This guy/girl just tells you who are all the pot dealers in town and where you can find them.
The police arresting this person is going to stop the drug dealers from selling! This person just knows everyone in town but he/she is not selling drugs nor does he/she possess drugs and that’s what isoHunt represents to bit torrent junkies.
Reading news like this I kinda start to understand bomb terrorists.
“isoHunt is not much different than search engines like Google”.
Yeah right!
Uh, excuse me, this is a company saying it will completely destroy a person. I’d sue them for threatening…
Other than that, this is actually funny, it shows that really, the world to them is only about money. There is no culture, there is no people, there is no personal gain except the financial one…
This is what it has come to… Money is enough reason to utterly destroy someone… And another one…
It’s sick… really sick, and i for one am ashamed to be the same species as these people…
ahh isn’t there something called the corporate veil, bankruptcy and statute of limitations. like say MPAA wins for 110 million isn’t the case against ISO hunt, a company i assuming probably an LLC, so his personal assets are safe. If they get around that cant he file for banckrupcy and any current leans would then be null. lastly there has to be a statute for how long you can seek damages anyways. I no legal expert but to payout seems very unlikly in both ToorestSpy and pending ISO hunt
What a shame, now the person behind IsoHunt has to finally answer for his accounts. I guess legal accountability isn’t something pirates are accustomed for. I also find the whole idea of pirates trying to discuss piracy as the a future, improved version of copyright. They talk about how copyright needs to change, as a way to disguise the basic fact that they just dont want to pay for things.
Unless of course they are seriously implying changing copyright so that everything is free. Hopefully, even they are smart enough to realize that that is absurd.
I hope Isohunts founder gets what he deserves. Like TPB, he probabaly thought that things would never catch up with him.
@Paladin your barking up the wrong tree here. It doesn’t matter how valid your point is your trying to explain it to teenagers that won’t listen unless your agreeing with them. You can tell by the responses they leave (lets do something to the lawyers family, etc.)childish. The Google, isoHunt are the same argument…their not and everyone knows that. I can download or upload a torrent file directly from isoHunt. Google gives me links to torrent sites that claim to have that torrent file. I doubt Google has a torrent file on it’s system and I’ve never seen an area to upload a torrent file to google. If someone can give me a link to upload a torrent to Google I’ll take that back. Don’t get me wrong, I download and I don’t think the music or movie studios are losing anymore to piracy then they did prior to P2P. In many ways I think they benefit. But the MPAA, RIAA, and the rest of them are lobby groups and the legal arms of the movie and music business. They have to sue to protect the rights of their clients along with their own interests, it’s their job. People here have to figure out that isoHunt, Piratebay, mininova, and the rest of them aren’t going to court fighting for your rights and freedoms. Why would they, they have their own agendas. Namely websites that make them money from media they don’t have the rights to. I wish Gary luck, I enjoy isoHunt. But unless he has people behind him with the power to change laws he’s fighting an uphill battle, one that will get played out over and over again until the indexing sites start seriously filtering out copyrighted material.
MAFIAA
that is such an unprofessional term. if you want to sound less bias when writing your articles then you should try not using these terms. after all, we are all just looking for some balance when it comes to news on piracy. no need to bash anyone for anything. that just creates bias.
well, what can you expect from modern day nazis..
Solve the problem change copyright term to 2 years LoL
If copyright term was 1 or 2 years long we would not be having this discussion at all.
i sing happy birthday to my kids, i have never paid royalties to the author. Is this any different. I lend a dvd to my brother to watch. Is this any different. I thought the copyright laws where to stop others MAKING PROFIT from the authors work.
Oh and another thing, lets not think for one nanosecond that any lawyer on the planet now or in the distant future gives a flying FCUK for copywright law on moralistic rights to an idea unless they can sue someone for it to line their own pockets,’cos they dont ever bend or break any laws …do they..
No doubt somebody somewhere has compiled a list of the most corrupt lawyers in history as well as politicians judges etc. glass houses….stones….hmmm
They seem to be getting serious with threats. Next they’ll be threatening to kneecap site owners.
Though theres a few site owners I’d like to see kneecapped!
isoHunt does have a tracker, 3 in fact. Hexagon is a tracker, Podtropolis is a tracker and Torrentbox is a tracker. They are all isoHunt sites.
It’s a war. And I keep thinking that we are a little selfish in this war: we all benefit from torrent sites, but when the MPAA/RIA comes in the only ones that get “hurt” is the guys that “give” us the torrent sites. Let’s help them now. Let’s show this lobby groups that we have “voice”. Let’s choose one big movie release and tell people to not go. Let’s stop buying songs for one month. If they only feel in their pockets, let’s make them suffer! :)
@90 Jul 14, 2009 at 13:08 by Patrick
Publish their songs on 2D barcodes and post it on the walls everywhere so people can download the song with a cellphone.
Use a fourrier transform or better yet the new wave transform to embed images,audio and data on audio and video recordings and this will be known in the future as the Maths wars LoL.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Fabrizio/752048541
This might be Steve Fabrizio’s facebook page – I’m not sure though as his bio says he graduated from Georgia but most of his friends are from Ohio state.
If it is him – check out the private jet in the photo. THAT’S why this is sounding personal, is it? So Stevey can buy some more jets with kids pocket money. MAFIAA make themselves really easy to hate
If people really want to send a strong message, they have to boycott all products associated with MPAA/RIAA. Don’t buy and don’t download their shit either. It’s the only way to bring them down. If they don’t have the funds to sue or lobby they will be left severely weakened. Then they will be forced to change or go bankrupt.
So when I buy a new CD or movie, this is where my money is going to?
f u c k the big industry bullies
why dont we all get together and chase THEM down until they change their business model F F S
flip a bird @ them & say
SEE
YOU
NEXT
TUESDAY
@92 and 96
Stop buying music for good. I never buy any.
I have vowed to never purchase or rent anything from any company affiliated with the MPAA and the likes as a protest to their stupidity. Call it theft, call it illegal, threaten me that you will sue me, I will continue forever.
@57 Fake Paladin of Truth: I’m afraid your attempt to tarnish my reputation by impersonating me has been met with unparalleled lack of success! ;) Like a full moon and a starry night, the Truth is clear for all to see; and you, sir, bespeak nothing but lies.
Much has been said about this issue, and I am afraid most of it is misinformation, not to say deliberated lies. Therefore, I feel it is my duty to provide the reasoned, impartial facts in order to clear the atmosphere, if at least slightly, and for those who genuinely want to see. Indeed, isoHunt is guilty of facilitating the continuous violation of copyright, as well as the impoverishment of artists and intellectual content providers; if not by active will, at least through blatant negligence.
It is already in my understanding that the Truth will severely displease many here, some of which will attempt to silence me through the employment of underhanded methods and personal attacks. But I assure them, as I assure you, who placed your genuine trust upon me, that they will definitely not, in any way, successfully achieve their goals.
I think it’s disgusting the way the lawyer is turning it into a personal vendetta. But really, these guys they are going after have been making a good few hundred thousand a year AT LEAST. So they’re not these innocent bystanders they make out to be and at the end of the day they are making money off other peoples work.
Yep, by the law that it is true that they are guilt of assisting copyright infringement but also true is that the copyright industry broke the social agreement with society robbing the people what they paid for and transforming copyright laws into revenue farms.
- 100 (-+ 50) it’s not acceptable.
- Charging for all uses of ideas it’s not acceptable.
- Corrupting the law to take away privacy and freedoms are not acceptable.
Payback it’s sweet.
About impoverishment of artists that is a blatant lie as the numbers don’t tell nobody that, what they do tell is that the industry never had so much profits in any time in history, so you should Sir go take your lies elsewhere.
Your money is going to the lobby in the governments of the world to strip you off your privacy and natural rights that is where it is going, when you buy stuff from “them” you are empowering and industry that couldn’t care less for society or your individual rights and will stomp the little guy.
foolish fabrizio character if you start becoming a pest your going to get swatted just like a fly and it might not be you…
sorry paladin of “truth” your lying. is that even your name or are you just reasonedmind or troll@styles under a different name?
@industry insider
sorry pal its not “stealing”. your the loser so stfu.
Does he speak English? He can go to Asia and teach english, and they CANNOT TOUCH HIM.
Is people robbing the industry after people pay for material for more then a year or is the industry robbing society and backing up from the deal to deliver the goods after being paid for it?
Society paid for the work of artists and those bastards don’t want to give the people what they paid for.
By using this tactique, people would go and pirate even more as the’re start to get sick of the MPAA. Also the media will get negative about the MPAA which also (for them) would not be there goal?
“the ultimate goal is to scare those who operate BitTorrent sites by pursuing exorbitant damages.”
This is nothing less than terrorism.
Just a warning thought to the RIAA/MPAA parasites:
We don’t negotiate with terrorists, we kill them.
Actually Fabrizio lives in DC, not chicago. He works at Jenner & Block.
http://www.jenner.com/people/bio.asp?id=1100
The MAFFIA lawyers always win as they lie through there teeth and overpower their less funded opponents. Who has the most money for the most lawyers wins, regardless who is right or wrong. Only in the U.S.
@One Liner. You make no sense, your comment #106. Huh? I read this as you bought a CD and you made payments for over a year and never got the CD? Dude they must have summer school where you live, you should go. Keep in mind that the whole reason the MPAA and RIAA can sue is because your governments created laws that give them the right to sue. Don’t hate the record labels and movie companies. Hate the people you voted for that pass these laws if the price is right. Spin things anyway you want but the fact is distributing copyrighted material without consent from the copyright holder is illegal, always has been and always will be. Gary at isoHunt knows his users are downloading copyright material, it’s always listed in the top 20 searches. He chose not to do anything about it to keep those users and the revenue they create and now it’s come back on him. In the end when the trial is over if someone comes along and wants to buy isoHunt for a few million he’ll sell out just like the piratebay folks. These guys aren’t freedom fighters or protectors of your rights, their business people just trying to make money. Just like the people suing them. Profit isn’t a bad word.
In the US you export your asset if any and declare a Bk chapter 7.
End of Story.
The MPAA/RIAA are screwed.
NO MONEY FOR THE TERRORISTS!
BOYCOTT THE RIAA/MPAA:
No Movie, no CD no dowload and no cable!
“Hate the people you voted for that pass these laws if the price is right.”
We shall hate both and we shall get ride of both since they represent a danger for our societies worst than El-Quada.
“I can download or upload a torrent file directly from isoHunt”
you are WRONG!
“isoHunt is guilty of facilitating the continuous violation of copyright, as well as the impoverishment of artists and intellectual content providers;”
you can’t tell me that nelly who in the same breath as showing off his new Cadillac escapade (along with some of his fleet of unimanginably expensive cars) with it’s 50K rims, 100K leather interior, and his gold tooth was saying that P2P ppl are robbing him blind is “iimpoverished” You can’t tell me that Eddie Griffen and the owner who shrugged off crashing a Ferrari Enzo is “impoverished”. You can’t tell me that the lawyers of these cases that show that they are the real parasites by being more of a bloodsucking leech than ANY bittorrent user ever. ARE IMPOVERISHED! get off your high horse and look at the real truth of those lawyers and the mp/riaa is actually impoverishing these starving artists.. all in the name of benjamin franklin whom is probably spinning in his grave so fast that if his axis was disturbed it’s momentum would knock the earth out of orbit, if he knew what this country has become. pathetic
why not just starting killing these mpaa/mafiaa scum????
Don’t forget when they attack websites they attack us.
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What a joke. The MPAA have a right to persure for reasons, but threatening the rest of Gary’s life goes far and well beyond the realms of fairness. Power to Mr. Fung.
Isn’t isohunt on canadian territory?
No society paid its due and are receiving the shaft on the other end of the bargain. Copyright law with 120 years it is not funny nor is a joke, have any one here see a contract for services last a 100 years and in the end the guy still tries to get out of delivering the goods claiming more time?
No society paid its due and are receiving the shaft on the other end of the bargain. Copyright law with 120 years it is not funny, have any one here seen a contract for services last a 100 years and in the end the guy still tries to get out off of delivering the goods claiming he needs more time?
About laws they passed it doesn’t mean people have to follow them especially unjust ones that harm society at its core crippling privacy and instating a police state.
@118 I believe it is in Canada. Their case is against CRIA the Canadian version of RIAA. But our copyright laws pretty much mirror the U.S. We save money that way, we let the U.S. write the laws then we just pay for the photocopies.
@120 “About laws they passed it doesn’t mean people have to follow them especially unjust ones that harm society at its core crippling privacy and instating a police state.”
Well no, people don’t have to follow laws. That’s why the jails are full. I really don’t see the ‘core of society being harmed’ or your privacy, by copyright law. As far as instating a police state, don’t you think that’s a little over the top? I don’t know if you’ve ever experienced a police state but it’s much different then where I live. In fact I can’t recall anytime recently when the police have murdered people for pirated mp3’s. But don’t take my word for it I don’t read the local paper everyday. Believe it or not copyright is a good thing. It’s very one sided here, always the giant corporation squashing the little guy. But over the years there’s been many times it’s been the little guy putting the screws to the corporation. The movie Flash of Genius comes to mind. Give it a watch sometime.
@kgm
Basic example: DRM. It is used to control how you use what you’ve bought in your own home. You cede privacy to whichever publisher you’re dealing with, in exchange for helping protect their profits.
But it’s okay, because DRM doesn’t work anyway. ;)
Also, look up Trusted Computing. Actually, I’m nice, so here’s a link. =)
The fundamental ideals of copyright are a good thing. Copyright law as we know it today is not and it needs to change.
This is a problem how?
@122 Jul 14, 2009 at 20:10 by kgm:
I did experience a militar regime once upon a time and I do know about it and that is why I see what is happening in the world today with very concerned eyes as I don’t wanna be in that place again ever.
And no it isn’t over the top, ACTA is a profound intrusion on the privacy and civil rights of people and copyright was once a good thing it is not anymore.
About people being jailed you are right until the change comes people will go to jail and have their lives ruined for petty stuff like sharing songs like people did go to jail once when they refused to go to the back of the bus.
The U.S. transformed a mother of 2 into an indenture servant for the copyright industry and it is threatening to do the same to others well I don’t know about you but a place where you can be turned into a slave for listening to music it is not a place I want to live in.
DRM is probably the most widely used (read : misrepresented) tool to demonize content holders and exonerate pirates and their “habbits.” If you are looking to lay the the blame of DRM at somone’s feet, you needn’t look any further than yourself. Pirates have been pushing content providers for years and things must have gone too far, so they were forced to take some sort of action to protect their interests from people like you.
Ambiguity seems to be your ally, huh? You conveniently neglected to mention which parts of copyright are a problem and exactly how they harm society. The fundamental ideals of copyright are :
1) Content providers should profit from their work
2) Pursuant to #1, Content providers should possess exclusive control of how their work is distributed
Piracy makes a mockery out of both these two.
If I am understanding this correctly, people have a tendency to characterize all corporate entities as evil by default, thus giving them the pretense they need to carry out attacks on their interests.
Bottom line is Mr Fung, like all people who run illegal torrent sites, had this coming all along. The fundamental misconception here is that just because the law doesn’t come for you today or even next year, that it never will. Torrent Piracy is a crime (any copyright infringement that exceeds $2000 is classified as a criminal act) that relies on borrowed time.
Fuck the MPAA if I buy a DVD or a music CD I can do what I want with it
Damit now they at isohunt its one of my favorite source to get torrents from ahh i hop they dont go out of bussiness
The ISOHUNT is in Canadian Territories.. We don’t follow US laws and any threats by MPAA lawyers are simply scare tactics and not 2 mention a waste of the MPAA\RIAA time.. They can threaten an owner with extorting him for the rest of their lives unfortunately they already know they can’t do anything..
Complete waste of time really..
The MPAA\RIAA will not be stupid egnough to launch a lawsuit from the US..
DRM is dead get over it..
1) Content providers should profit from their work..
And they do troll when its not the MPAA\RIAA disributing it..
2) Pursuant to #1, Content providers should possess exclusive control of how their work is distributed.
Yes but unfortunately the artists don’t control how their work is distributed.. You say piracy mocks #1\#2 in reality thats the MPAA\RIAA’s job..
As for the rest of your post.. Waste of time torrent sites aren’t illegal..
The MPAA, much like the RIAA before them, are breeding a whole new generation of people that hate them for everything they are doing.
And driving file sharing underground only makes it harder to track down. Those who are in the know will still get whatever they want, and the MPAA/RIAA will get nothing.
Things like NSA-grade encryption (try breaking that, MAFIAA scum!), darknets, and even offline (sneakernet) sharing are becoming commonplace thanks to them. If only they had adapted instead of trying to sue every p2p user in sight, force draconian DRM onto consumers, pass technology hostile laws and so on, they might have been able to capitalize on filesharing.
But no, it is too little, too late. Each day they create more enemies who will never buy their crappy, overpriced product ever again.
And as for 4chan /b/ going after Fabrizio, there are some there who may just do that.
@Jeff, you are completely right all the RIAA, MPAA are doing is burning their own bridges. They fail to realise that as they attack there once loyal consumers, that they push us to being more secretative about our file sharing. The more they push the more we will go to methods like encryption.
@neostyles, @Kgm and Paladin of Truth, (and anyone else who shares the the same bed with them)Don’t think IsoHunt will go down like the TPB, In Canada we do view our laws alittle diffently and the majority of us do use a torrents for some purpose or another.
And if even if this does prove in favor the MPAA, RIAA or anyone else. All your truly going to do is have these torrent sites move to servers where you can’t really sue them, (Romania, Entire horn of africa) Any place where laws cannot be fully enforced.
So go ahead, give your witty corporate response, say we are all stealing(Although we are truly the ones that bring you your paycheck in the first place) But all your going to do is make the problem more unstoppable then it already is.
The clock is ticking, and god is truly on our side for this. So we will see how things turn our and it certainly won’t be in your favor.
With a name like Fabrizzio, this guy has mob written all over his face.
This guy is more like a hitman dressed up as a scummy lawyer.
c’mon people…u wanna get crius then dont buy legit shit from any store.
the more they want to attack file sharers, the more, I don’t want to go to the movie theater.
@NeoLapdog
Hey corporate asskisser, stop pushing your stupid propaganda and misinformation about theft or stealing.
These individuals you accused of stealing have paid their dues.
They paid their respective ISPs, Modem companies, Telco Companies, PC companies, Software companies, Electricity companies, media companies and they pay taxes.
With that in mind go and shove it!
111–>…but the fact is distributing copyrighted material without consent from the copyright holder is illegal, always has been and always will be…
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LIAR!!!
You are referring ONLY to the bizarre and illegal USA copyright law, that’s all; ASSHOLE.
In my country and in a lot of countries around the world is totally legal to share copyrighted material with others, always that this is for personal use and not for-profit. With this your RIDICULOUS laws are invalid in
the MAJORITY of countries around the world, that’s a fact. You take your USA copyright law and introduce it for your ASS. In my country your laws have less value than used toilet paper.
Die copyright die!
130–>”The ISOHUNT is in Canadian Territories.. We don’t follow US laws and any threats by MPAA lawyers are simply scare tactics and not 2 mention a waste of the MPAA\RIAA time.. They can threaten an owner with extorting him for the rest of their lives unfortunately they already know they can’t do anything..
Complete waste of time really..”
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Exactly… In Canada is legal to share information with others, including copyrighted material.
Fung: they’re trying to SCARE YOU. They can’t pursue a judgment like that, and if they do, just move countries (seriously).
127 (.neo.styles|nvDX) wrote:
The fundamental ideals of copyright are :
1) Content providers should profit from their work
2) Pursuant to #1, Content providers should possess exclusive control of how their work is distributed
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Ohh!! .neo.styles|nvDX, I am very disappointed with you. :-)
If you go to lie with conviction as in this case, at least you could be less evident. :-).
‘Content providers’ ARE NOT ‘creators of content’, in this case; ‘content providers’ can’t profit from their “work”; because the “work” was created and made by the ‘creators of content’ (artists mainly) and NOT by the ‘content providers’.
‘Content providers’ are mainly distributors, but they don’t create NOTHING!!!. In this point, ‘content
providers’ profit for distributing the work created by ‘content creators’; and you know that ‘content providers’ (as distributors) are obsolete and redundant in this digital age, that’s a fact.
In this point, suggesting (as you did) that ‘content providers’ are the same as ‘creators of content’ is the most incredible lie that a COMPULSIVE LIAR as you have invented.
“Content providers should possess exclusive control of how “their work” (sigh!!) is distributed.”
Another BIG lie… Nor ‘content providers’ nor ‘content creators’ should possess exclusive control of
NOTHING!!!, nor having special rights above of the rights and will of the citizens who conform the MAJORITY… again, you FAILED!!!
wooooooooooooowwww, seriously ppl have nothin else better ta do, im sure all pirates have the dream of burnin the RIAA n MPAA buildings ta the ground n roasted marshmellows n drink beers lol
Fine, neostyles, you want to play?
If you insist.
In terms of filesharing, there is only one area of copyright law that is a problem: distribution. Once upon a time, distribution was a matter that was carried out by select companies, those that owned printing presses or radio stations or whatever. Copyright was a Good Thing in these times because it placed restrictions on publishers and distributors (a select and comparatively small group of people) in exchange for a public benefit: incentive to create. Nowadays it’s different because, as I have explained to you before but you so conveniently ignored, the division between publisher and common man has all but disappeared. Because of the Internet and p2p technology, anyone can publish anything, so copyright has moved to placing a big restriction on the general public, and with no change in the “benefit” side to compensate for the increase in restriction. It’s not nearly as much a public good as it once was.
Copyright is obsolete in the digital world. How can you enforce first sale when you can copy something endlessly and constantly sell the copies? In fact, to make a better point, how can you sell something online when it is endlessly copiable? Digital copies of something are worthless because of this… but I digress. Sharing is a fundemental part of our society. We share when we learn; we share because sharing is a public benefit, not necessarily a private benefit. Copyright law, and through it the Big Content organizations that so rigorously enforce it, are not only telling the world that it is not okay to share with your friends, family, or complete strangers (the latter being the most noble of these), but also that profits are more important than human rights! This is completely ridiculous and it’s unthinkable that a commercial entity can dictate such things to the world’s public.
I know that if I don’t add in how I think it should change, you will just say “Oh, you’re just saying it should change in order to justify your behavior.” (Please notice that I did not use retardspeak to discredit you when ‘quoting’ you; unlike you I have a shred of civility.) So how do I think copyright should change? Legalization of noncommercial distribution of digital media. Selling bootleg copies is still wrong. Drastically lowering the life of copyright- down to a handful of years instead of over a century. Those are the basics of it.
Please demonstrate to me that they aren’t.
Have you ever studied copyright? Copyright is not designed this way. There is something called the “first-sale doctrine” which basically states that copyright holders relinquish control over something once it’s sold. The buyer can do whatever he wants with it- sell it, give it away, deface it, destroy it- and the copyright holder can’t do a thing about it. The exception to this is make unauthorized copies, but that part is obsolete in the digital world, where anything on a computer can be copied. So no, content holders are not supposed to exclusively control how their work is used.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Show me a big, multinational, for-profit corporation that is not evil.
Your last paragraph is full of laughs:
isoHunt is an indexing site (search engine), not a tracker. How is this illegal? (In fact, how is a torrent site illegal in the first place? In fact, what IS a torrent site?)
Torrent piracy? Torrent piracy? DAMN those pirates for stealing my torrents! Those are MY torrents! MINE! MIIINE!
(You’re confusing yourself.)
Cite or gtfo. You don’t get to throw around unsourced statements and pretend you’re right.
Come to think of it, I don’t think I’ve ever seen so much as a link from you. Funny- you act all big and righteous and then demonstrate that you’re too scared to back up your claims. Or that you simply can’t because you lie. Either one means you are wasting your time by posting here.
More comedy from the clowns.
LOL
intent is an integral component to law. please stop pretending to know what you’re talking about. you’re not a lawyer. hell, you’re probably not even an adult.
really? you think people would stop pirating the newest releases? the newest releases are generally what gets pirated THE MOST. so how’s the weather over there in fantasy land?
conversely, has anyone here seen a business have to give up it’s control and profits after a number of years for the “public good?
no?
should we mandate that once a successful company has been operating for say, fifteen years, the government will forcibly step in, take it away from its natural heirs and turn it into a non-profit? why should businesses be passed down through the family? that’s textbook nepotism, after all. why should someone’s offspring inherit their business that they did nothing to help make?
while were at it, lets take grandma and grandpa’s house away. they’ve had it long enough, it’s time to take their property and make it into a public park for everyone to enjoy! it’s not like they carved that land from untamed wilderness — a great many people who came before them allowed that land to be hospitable to daily life. we all stand on the shoulders of giants so should any of us really own ANYTHING given how much we owe our forebears? it’s not like your ability to to sell widgets and own physical property was developed in a vacuum. for fairness’s sake, after a time we should all repay our accrued debt to society by relinquishing our long-held businesses and properties!
“No good case exists for the inequality of real and intellectual property, because no good case can exist for treating with special disfavor the work of the spirit and the mind.”
- Mark helpbrin
look at all the BASEMENT WARRIORS! have you ever seen so much misdirected sexual frustration in one place before? is there anything more cringe-worthy, hand-over-your-mouth embarrassing than VIRGIN RAGE?
LOL
US laws are not the issue, INTERNATIONAL laws are (as defined by numerous treaties) and all the canadian territories are required to follow various international copyright laws. please stop pretending to know what you’re talking about. you’re not a lawyer. hell, you’re probably not even an adult.
Just in case you morons haven’t picked up a legal book lately regarding civil suits let me explain… In many states in the USA and provinces in Canada (as I know ISOhunt has operations there or had, court ordered settlements can be disposed of in a bankruptcy court. How the hell do you people think GM is getting out of the mess they are in?
Wake up and smell the coffee please, let MPAA sue for 500 million, then ISOhunt declares bankruptcy, sells all their assets off for 1 buck to some company and poof, MPAA loses and the people win.
What more can you ask for?
Well, that’s just more ammo for the boycott.. they’ll see their sales suffer as more people jump on the boycott bandwagon.
Go Fung! Go Isohunt! We’re all behind you.
oh this lawyer is so fucked now…
hunt someone for life? over something as moot as filesharing? the MPAA has clearly gone psycho!
they should be put out of their fucking misery.
incredible!
this is just so insane i can hardly believe the level of psychosis reached by RIAA/MPAA… someone just shoot em down please!
http://www.twilightcampaign.net
“Fabrizio is well aware that Fung wont be able to pay millions if isoHunt ends up losing, but the MPAA is patient. “The judgment doesn’t go away. If Gary Fung creates a legitimate website, we’ll be there. If he sells that company for $100 million, we’ll be there. For the rest of his life we’ll be able to pursue that judgment,” the MPAA lawyer told the Financial Post.”
Wow… just…wow.
146–>”US laws are not the issue, INTERNATIONAL laws are (as defined by numerous treaties) and all the canadian territories are required to follow various international copyright laws.”
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Yes, USA copyright law is the ISSUE.
USA copyright law is the ONLY which converts to each human being without exception on this world in a criminal, because each person on this planet has shared copyrighted material with others, independently if the persons are aware of that or not; that is mainly for this reason that USA copyright law is rejected in the MAJORITY of countries on the world. USA copyright law violates basic human rights and civil liberties.
Also, you LIE when you subliminally suggest that USA copyright laws are International laws and that all the
canadian territories should follow this. Of course, NOT. Canada has its own copyright law which
states very clearly that sharing copyrighted material with others is legal, when this is for personal use and not for-profit; and obviously Canada is not obligated to ignore its own laws for satisfying foreign laws, that nothing have to do with the laws of Canada.
Worse, Each citizen from Canada pays an unjustified and illegal levy on blank storage media for satisfying the caprices of the PARASITES copyright holders from USA, waste of taxpayer money that could be used for the benefit of the citizens of Canada instead of being stolen by copyright holders that don’t provide real benefit to the society.
f uck the mafiaa and all that sh!t when radiohead gave their cd away online i paid $10 for it, and all of that money went straight to them unlike buying cd’s in the store which artist get what like 1/2 a percent? if my favorite musicians started selling digital copies online for a donation i believe they would make a ton more money then they will selling it through itunes or some other stupid music service
@146 So where is the copyright infringement in running a torrent search site? Don’t give me crap about “facilitating” because THATS USA LAW. If you have a problem, go against the US citizens directly involved in the transfer of the actual content. No, a .torrent is not content.
And guess what? USA IS NOT THE WORLD.
Gary Fung, seriously, if you feel threatened come to a free country.
Those dicks can cry a river until they die, at best they can ask their corporate controlled gov. to fill a complain to the WTO and hope some resolution is made in the following decades, which will either be ignored or make us leave WTO once for all.
I hate MPAA/RIAA and American corporate fed culture, but sites like ISOHUNT help promote other cultures, for example Asian entertainment, in other words stuff not controlled/made by them.
This is what you don’t like, really, losing the power to influence others. The world doesn’t want copyright? Thats it. Laws are made by man, can be changed by man. Democracy is the rule of majority, not the rule of the elite, no matter how much you try to brainwash people otherwise. People elect their lawmakers, if a law is causing more harm than good, its time to change it for good.
I know you would love to defend business models of those who built riches around slavery, but at some point those laws were abolished, and so will those. Don’t want to put sense to that Berne thing? Ok kiss goodbye to it, its your fault for being a dick.
@146 “please stop pretending to know what you’re talking about. you’re not a lawyer. hell, you’re probably not even an adult.”
LOL! Neither are you.
@146
One has to ask why your being so victorian in your views?
for the record number 146 Free trade was against the Law 200 years ago, and i bet you see nothing wrong with free trade!
And as a matter of fact why are you taking this so personally? are you infact someone from the mafiaa??
So if the MPAA wins and get their judgement, Gary Fung declares bankrupcy, since a judgement that large would make him insolvent. That would effectively vacate the MPAA judgement and Gary could get on with his life and continue to harass the MPAA.
Wins all around!
Bankruptcy is an option. Although, he would still lose all his assets like a home he may own. It’s not that straight forward. Plus you also have the negative effects for years after you make yourself bankrupt.
146 Jul 15, 2009 at 07:08 by Anonymous
True today but maybe if people knew they could see it in 2 years instead of waiting a 100 years people could wait those 2 years instead of knowing that they would never in their lifetimes see it, and in turn this could lead to less piracy an anger can you prove it otherwise?
Yep all the time bussiness are supposed to let go of their intelectual property in 14 years and don’t control distribuition channels and have zero rights from derivative works have you never seen a patent in your life?
Funny you talk about grandpa’s house because I came to realize people don’t buy anything they lease it from the state if you don’t pay your taxes you loose your house, you really think you own land? in what world do you think you live in LoL
Besides governments everywhere already take the houses of grandpa’s everywhere to build other things like highways, shopping mals and etc, an although sad it is a reality in the U.S. is even more true if a neighborhood is considered hazardous it can be taken away from people, people don’t own land nowhere it is just an illusion to let the sheep calm and to not rebel. You think you own a car? LoL
Sorry I have to laugh, you think you can own ideas? enforce absurd laws? LMAO
Wow, 157 replies… I tried to read them all but stopped near 80 something.
In any case, some people here (like mr Paladin) insist that what the industry is doing is the right thing. I would have to disagree simply because I have bought several albums after actually downloading them ‘illegally’. Would that make me a criminal?
Furthermore, should I buy a CD because I liked a single song from it? Don’t come with the itunes blabbing as 1 dollar is not what I’d call a fair price unless you really like the artist.
What if I buy the CD because the radios are hammering that in my head and then I end up forgetting the song/CD in a few weeks and never listening to it anymore?
What if I can’t find the stuff I want for sale? I spent 35 minutes looking for a place to buy a J-POP CD in an idiom I could actually read and failed miserably. Am I a criminal because I downloaded the CD but couldn’t find it?
What if my original CD/DVD broke, got scratched or whatever? Am I a criminal because I downloaded the content again? What if I lost the serial number? What if they release new versions too fast for rape-like prices and I can’t keep up with the pace?
I could go on asking you a lot of questions. Obviously, if you have a lot of money it doesn’t matter if you throw $30 in the trash can with a crappy CD or a game with a crappy ending but for the vast majority of us it’s a money earned through a lot of sweat so we buy slowly and only what is really good from our point of view.
MAFIAA can hunt and torment people as much as they want. In the end we’ll see how deep they’ll have dug their graves.
Oh, and for the ones talking about the lawyer’s family please don’t even suggest that. You are just playing the same game, ruining a life using bankruptcy is just like ruining a life by using any other thing, including the family. I’m sure most people that download stuff are good people. MAFIAA is just displaying human traits through its actions: fear of losing, fear of uncertainty, greed……
2 years copyright now, because I can wait a couple of years but will not wait a 100 LoL
Anyone notice how MAFIAA is an anagram for A MAFIA? The entertainment industry and organized crime don’t like competition and one way they both respond is by making threats of lifetime vendettas. The ONLY way internet piracy can be stopped is to stop the internet, that’s it. People will still rent DVDs, burn them, copy them, send the originals back and sell copies on the street for $5 a pop. Fabrizio and the greedy goons like him are trying to hold back a tsunami with a butterfly net. I’ll bet he probably borrows his friend’s CDs
@146: intent does NOT matter in the copyright context, although it does in many other areas of the law (all areas of criminal law, for example).
If intent mattered in copyright, plaintiffs would be stuck with the burden of showing that the defendant had the mental intention (mens rea) to commit or contribute to copyright infringement. This would prove to be a difficult task, indeed, as there it is very difficult to prove state-of-mind.
I’ll agree with Paladin on one thing: this blog is full of misinformation, from both sides…. Let’s leave the legal analysis to those who know WTF they are talking about, eh?
@Law Student-Be quiet your speaking an American view, not a professional view from a Canadian Lawyer.
The MPAA just like threatening people, shows you what sort of people they are.
If they were really trying to do their jobs they would just take it to court and do their thing not make stupid threats.
h33t sucks ass worst ugliest tracker ever. and the staff are dumb shits. use a real tracker…. id like to see h33t max out my 100mb dwn speed eat a dick h33t
LOL
copyright infringement can be a criminal offense! please cite the appropriate passage that dissevers mens rea consideration from criminal copyright law.
Did they just admit they plan to stalk him?
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oh Canada
the true north strong and FREE
Wait, so there actually is a Members Against Freedom of Information Association of America (MAFIAA)? Or did Ernesto just fall onto the jargon of TorrentFreak commentors and misspell MPAA as MAFIAA?
Viva el Canada! (Or “Viva il Canada” or even “Viva la Canada”, I don’t know if it comes from Spanish or Italian.)
“but it is not an easy battle in a country where lobbyists and Hollywood funded politicians are in power.”
This is what it comes down to. Get educated folks. Stop the New World Order from taking over your country!
And one more thing, always remember to wear your tin foil hat!
Gary will not sell out like the TPB
Steven Fabrizio is such an asshole…is it any wonder such an attitude just creates more piracy ?
How can they sleep at night, after doing all those kind of bad things?
These MPAA+RIAA=MAFIAA organizations are terrorists now. They should be dissolved!
They are dangerous..
@#142 – Kanine:
In France, our fucked up government always confuses the people by ignoring the difference between ‘content providers’ and ‘content creators’.
I always have to remind everyone of that difference myself.
“But the artists should be paid still!
-No. It’s never about the artists, it’s the content providers that you hurt. Nobody ever speaks of the artists, though the word artist is overused all the time.”
This is France…
keep on truckin, gary. dont give those fuckers a dime.
@neostyles: About DRM, See SPORE.
MPAA will hunt down isoHunt founder for life… while on the other hand pirates will continue to pirate their stuffs :D
Lol the RIAA sounds twisted.
Lol the MPAA sounds twisted.
This just shows all they care about is the money. They couldn’t give two fucks about the actors, the consumers. Not anyone. All they want is more fucking money to pay to those already overpaid fat-cat arseholes at the top. There’s only so much you can do with money anyway!
Lawl
Money spent on hunting Fung>amount of United States Deficit>Fung’s Net Worth
Laughing My ass off to Fabio’s doomed Career (Fabrizio): priceless
For everything else, there’s Mastercard
http://www.lawyers.com/Illinois/Chicago/Steven-B.-Fabrizio-2924336-a.html
he took down his details after you guys linked to his page lol…
getting ready to assassinate this asshole, wish me luck
more like you’re getting ready to whack off to some cartoon porn and then cry yourself to sleep.
no luck needed there, i’m sure you have plenty of practice…
At a certain point…
Repeatedly attempting to fake one’s own death becomes economically more viable than paying undeserved money back to an insanely greedy group of assholes…
So, whatever any judgement is… the overall effort will be an epic failure.
You take a site down, two pop up… eat shit and die MAFIAA!!!
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