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Newzbin2: BT Have Started To Censor Us

UK Internet service provider BT didn’t need the flexibility of a full 14 days to begin their censorship of Usenet indexing site Newzbin2. According to an administrator at the site the court-ordered blockade has already begun, with subscribers to the ISP getting an “Error – site blocked” message when they try to access.

On October 26, Justice Arnold at the High Court handed down a written judgment to BT, one of the UK’s largest Internet service providers, which ordered the company to block subscriber access to Newzbin2 within two weeks.

The decision came after BT failed in their opposition to the blockade of Newzbin2 which had been ordered after several Hollywood studios applied for an injunction against the site on copyright infringement grounds.

With several days to go before the deadline expires, according to Mr White at Newzbin2, BT appear to have implemented the blockade.

“We’ve heard that the British Telecom censorship of the free web has begun,” he told TorrentFreak in an email.

“It’s a sad day when a minor European nation decides to kow-tow to Hollywood and join China and Iran in blocking citizens from reading the views of others and accessing a search engine.”


The HTML code in the webpage displayed when BT users try to access Newzbin2

newzbin2block

In typically defiant mood, Mr White added that the blockade would have very little impact.

“Downloads of our BT Cleanfeed busting client that will allow anyone to access our site despite the block have been stratospheric over the past couple of weeks,” he reports.

The apparent take up of the software has been impressive. Just over 93% of Newzbin2′s active BT users are reported to have downloaded the anti-censorship software, leading to what Mr White describes as “replete failure” for the MPA.

Reports from BT users during the past few hours have varied.

Some say they can still access the site, others report that they cannot and can see the “Error – site blocked” message detailed above instead. Others report that Newzbin2 can only be accessed via their anti-censorship client or by typing the site’s IP address (85.112.165.75) directly into their browser.

It’s unclear why there is a variation in results but it would be reasonable to presume that the full effects of the block might need to propagate across the ISP’s userbase.

“Newzbin2 shall go on, it’s users shall continue to access the site and its facilities and as the UK lackeys of the MPA roll over other NZB sites like nzbsrus and nzbmatrix they will realise that nothing has changed and they have no change after paying millions of dollars in legal fees,” notes Mr White.

“Well done dinosaurs, have a fern leaf; TeamRDogs will have Pina Coladas.”

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  • SomeGuy

    On the one hand I’m glad the MAFIAA is wasting their time with such useless measures, bookmark the IP address and you’re around the block. On the other hand it seems like one more step toward more aggressive filtering of the internet. We may be laughing and high fiveing each other today, but every step forward for them is two steps back for the rest of the world. This kind of bullshit shouldn’t be tolerated, even if it is totally ineffective.

    • http://twitter.com/SmoothMarx SmoothMarx

      We’re just being proven that a censored internet is right around the corner. Once these kinds of deals can get made with the excuse of piracy, imagine all the deals that can be made under the table without us even knowing.

      • Guest

        “not available yet (Linux)”

        Always the same shit.

        • Godarklight

          Even as a linux user, It does make sense to target the largest group of users first. Just hold hope it doesn’t go the way of the linux ventrilo client, its been “In development” for many years now…

        • Godarklight

          Even as a linux user, It does make sense to target the largest group of users first. Just hold hope it doesn’t go the way of the linux ventrilo client, its been “In development” for many years now…

  • Martin Mørch

    The Internet is free and can freely be used for anything that multi-national companies allow you to.

  • Heepie202

    I wonder if using google public dns works to bypass the ISP blockage.

    code.google.com/speed/public-dns/

    • GoodIdea

      No probably not, you send a Host: header in the HTTP protocol, and they probably block anything with, Host: http://www.newzbins.com which is why it works fine when just accessing the IP.

  • http://thegift73.wordpress.com/ Richard Gailey

    I am with BT at work, and have just Googled Usenet.com in Chrome and come up with this message:
    “Disabled. This website has been disabled! The reason may include failure to pay for the service or usage beyond the agreed limits.”

    • Brianpeppers

      That’s because the Usenet.com isn’t an active site. Or it was at one point but they didn’t pay for enough bandwidth or its been closed down.

      • http://thegift73.wordpress.com/ Richard Gailey

        Ah OK. Cheers.

      • http://thegift73.wordpress.com/ Richard Gailey

        Ah OK. Cheers.

  • Bretttt

    This works – https://www.newzbin.com/

    • Anonymous

      I have tested my local BT link (btcentralplus.com) and there is no block at all in place. HTTP and HTTPS both work fine along with the IP (85.112.165.70).

      If this is a court ordered BT block then I am not impressed. :-)

  • Jimbo

    so the censoring of web sites in the UK has started. Jeremy Hunt said the government wouldn’t implement web site blocking but left the door wide open for exactly that to be done be every other means, including through the courts and by forcing ISPs to take that responsibility. this is also contrary to what William Hague said at the conference a couple of days ago. now the censoring has started, there will be no end!

  • Richardstyles

    BT user, I can access via IP address. mega fail mpa

  • Anonymous

    “…they will realise that nothing has changed and they have no change after paying millions of dollars in legal fees.”

    I dunno, they haven’t noticed it before, and they’ve been throwing away millions on quixotic attempts to stop piracy for as long as we’ve known them. Why should they suddenly start looking for a return on their investment?

  • Guest

    So… the BT clients give their money to that ISP company, only to be censored?

    Yeah, I’ll pass. Are there any serious ISPs over at the UK now?

    • http://twitter.com/Drfootlong Drfootlong

      Well, anyone apart from BT at the moment. I think the only things that get blocked on all ISP’s are known child abuse sites, but that’s nothing new.

  • Iman

    Access via https:// and via the site own IP is still working as is the BT cleanfilter cleint from Newzbin….PMSL

    What a waste of time and money

  • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

    Well feck me sideyways :o
    I don’t usually annoy the tits off my MP two days in a row, but following TF’s article yesterday about the US Judge whipping his disabled daughter for filesharing, I’ve YET AGAIN had to contact my MP (with MANY thanks to you TF guys).

    I’ve sent another email with the above article’s url to my MP stating that the laws allowing Courts to order UK ISP’s to block websites for reason of filesharing MUST be abrogated without hesitation.

    This is BAD law and is in breach of basic Human Rights, let alone the rights of consumers to choose freely in a market-place what to do with their cash.

    The fault lies with politicians who passed this BAD LAW because they listened to the lies and deception of a “content industry” whose interest is to protect their archaic business model that’s no longer suitable for the 21st century.

    I urge you guys to write to your politicians too. PLEASE!!!
    “Sharing IS caring”.

    • Danny

      I’ve emailed my MP countless times. I generally get copy paste responses that sound as if several people have written them. Can’t trust a politician to respond properly to a request, can’t trust them at all. I’m just glad I didn’t vote for the idiot!

      • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

        Don’t be disheartened with their stock response.
        Simply remind them they’re elected to represent you, and not just their Party, in Parliament.

        Put the pressure on them diplomatically. And see if they will come around eventually.

  • Nightflier

    Changing your dns for comodo or open dns should circumvent the bt filtering or use a vpn.

  • Gargamel

    Good job TeamRdogs, you take action when others just blow alot of hot air. Very commendable.

  • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

    It’s amusing to see that the blockade is failing even before it’s enforced. The joy ;)

  • Cynic

    Technological reality is not changed by putting on a wig and banging a hammer on a desk.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002639684444 Ryan Smith

    If you like pina coladas
    Think censorship is a pain
    You can still use the IP 85.112.165.75
    If you have half a brain
    If you’d like downloading at midnight
    Staying up way too late
    Then come over to newzbin
    Hatersaurus gon’ hate

    • Anonymous

      Quick remove this post before the MPAA censors this website for infringement.

    • Anonymous

      Quick remove this post before the MPAA censors this website for infringement.

  • Anonymous

    Dude that jsut does not make any sense at all man. I mean like totally.
    web-privacy.au.tc

  • Guest12

    The available information is that Cleanfeed does not involve IP blocking at all and will only block traffic where a readable url in the header matches a url on the block list. Traffic addressed by IP address alone has no url in the header, and the URL in an https header (if there is one in there) is not readable.

    If that is the position, then that would explain why https and IP addressed traffic appear not to be being blocked. That sort of traffic would have to be blocked on the basis of IP and that appears to be outside the scope (and this appears to be clearly spelled out in the order) of what BT are required to do.

    • Anon

      In the words of the squid team, you can not transparently proxy SSL (https) connections. Think about it. If you could, what would be the point of using SSL? They are using a basic proxy server to redirect all requests to the non SSL (http) page to the denial page instead.

    • Anonymous

      Seeing that this court has ordered BT to block both the URL and IP of NewzBin2 then if what you say is true then BT have quite a problem when if BT cant block an IP connection they would be in violation of the court order. To comply they would then need to terminate a large part or all of their BT network.

      I can’t believe BT could mess up so badly. Their CleanFeed system has been a hot censorship topic for about a year and now all of a sudden they are surprised that they can’t do an IP block?

      It would then be pointed out that BT has had months to upgrade their CleanFeed software/firmware to support IP blocking.

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  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    The most amazing thing is that you would expect this kind of news to
    horrify hell out of your average Englishman or Frenchman or American.
    After all, if this kind “thought control” can be legislated in democratic
    jurisdictions like Britain, France, and America, what safe harbor remains
    for the idea that any citizen today can believe with certainty that he lives in
    a democracy?

    You would think that British subjects would look within their political traditions
    and ask themselves, “Just what difference does this law reflect between North
    Korean and British subjects?”

    You would think that Frenchmen everywhere would ask each other, “Why
    are our legislatures imposing here in France the kind of censorship that we
    disgraced ourselves with in Algiers?

    You would think that American citizens would resent more the imposition within their own legislatures of anti-democratic repressions that their government criticizes daily as obnoxious attributes of the Iranian or North Korean gulags.

    If citizens can be censored to this extent and in this way under British, French, and American democratic processess, then why wouldn’t the same “democratic processes” be available to censor them in every way and to censor them absolutely?

    • Anon

      When intelligent observers equate lawful behavior with thought control, they lose both the value of their voice and their right to the freedoms we took for granted before piracy. The tide has clearly turned.

      Nicely done.

      • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

        If the British parlaments tomorrow passed laws to censor every single video image and line of print within the UK, the result would be “lawful behavior” and it would be also the kind of morally stupifying and dehumanizing “thought control” that should be utterly unacceptable within the British democratic traditions.

        As intelligent observers we see no challenge whatsoever in making the distinction between what “lawful behavior” should be and what it is not: The mechanized slaughter of six million Jews in Germany and the enslavement of Black People in America was once “lawful behavior”. We should by now at long last be entitled to be spared yet one more mindless repetition that every
        moral abomination imposed on man as law must be accepted as anything other
        than a disgrace merely because it is “lawful”.

        Make no mistake, moral abominations have always been present in our history masquerading as lawful conduct. Only our democratic traditions have allowed us to see clearly through the masquerade and save ourselves from the long littany of suffereng which is the tale of life or death under tyrrany.

        As Americans, as British subjects and as Frenchmen, we ask ourselves in disbelief, “How is it possible that these laws are produced by our democratic legislatures?”

        Anon tells us that it is because of piracy that we’ve lost both the value of our voice and the right to our freedom. Anon nowhere allows for the possibility that
        what the people really want to pirate is all the rights that flow from democratic control of their legislatures. A hundred year copyright law is a heineous act every bit as heineous as the new censorship imposed to protect it.

        Why do our legislatures routinely give us such disgraceful laws?

        Because we have lost our pesence and primacy in our legislatures.

        Anon tells us that the tide has turned. I too see that million foot high wall. But
        it is not the tide. It is a vast tsunami. It is not made of water. It is all pure blood. It is the bood that our freedom will cost one day if our democracies today are not strong enough to retun our legislatures to their rightful owners.

      • Anonymous

        Right… Und Befel ist Befel!

        If the state or your commander says so you have to do it and you should not question them! It’s not because of Hitler we are at war but because of those damn Jews. Right? I’ve seen what people that reason like you can do.

        • Guest

          No. Not the Jews. The Zionists. Hitler is the father of the Zionism.

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  • http://twitter.com/p2jack P2p Jack

    Switch to virgin media you can still access the site via them, they are not running on BT lines unlike every other domestic ISP in the UK
    Proof: http://i.imgur.com/NBjvO.jpg

    • Danny

      Well my IP is on a BT line and I can still access that shitty site.
      Mind you at work earlier I couldn’t and we are on real BT, but obviously easy to bypass with https or IP. Mind you I wouldn’t touch that site with a shitty stick!

  • http://twitter.com/p2jack P2p Jack

    Switch to virgin media you can still access the site via them, they are not running on BT lines unlike every other domestic ISP in the UK
    Proof: http://i.imgur.com/NBjvO.jpg

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  • Fire138

    I am a BT customer, and it isnt blocked for me, will give it a week or 2, see what happens.

  • 11

    85.112.165.75 <———– looooooooooooooooool

    DNS phail oh how i loled

    • Guest

      85.112.165.75 DNS fail?

      He did not fail for me.

      Something wrong with your system.

  • 11

    85.112.165.75 spread the IP ! `im gonna post it everywhere i go

    • Danny

      Why?

      My BT DNS tells me that for free?

    • Anonymous

      They are also available on 85.112.165.70 and 85.112.165.74. The latter one is most interesting providing an IP to HTTPS link.

      It is also interesting that in the middle on 82.112.165.73 is a WikiLeaks site.

  • Sean23634634

    id appreciate a few links to some underground usenet sites please.

    • Anonymous

      So they are no longer underground? No.

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  • lolz

    i’m with BT and yep, the ip works fine :)

  • Rekrul

    Laws only work when they have the support of the majority of the population behind them. When you feel you need to start passing laws that go against society’s wishes, you’re doing something wrong. The US government found that out with prohibition.

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  • John

    I’m on BT and have no problem accessing the site. Working as well as it always has. Just goes to show how pointless censorship is on the internet.

    • Anonymous

      BT probably has to roll the update out all over the network. That said, enjoy your last period of BT Newzbin² access.

      • Danny

        Actually I can access it again today.
        They were probably just testing yesterday, either that or cleanfeed broke on day 1!

  • Nickichi

    odd, still working here so either BT is taking their time to spread the censorship out or its cause im using opendns instead on my network. be intresting to see if the sites blocked by the end of the week

  • Thomishere

    Why use that site anyway? look in the right places it’s always been there.

    • Nickichi

      Don’t use the site or usenet, more of a Streisand effect, always been happy with torrents. More interested to see if this snowballs now and ends up with a lot of sites being censored here. question is will BT just turn clean-fed off or will they roll over and embrace communism. Either way i can see me & others using vpns alot more regardless of the “hidemyarse” fiasco

    • Anonymous

      It’s not about what site they block stupid, it’s the fact that they use censorship in a democracy. Now the only difference with china is that they use less censorship then them. Basically agreeing with China, or at least that is how they will see it. So all the work until now to stop China from abusing human rights, down the drain.

  • EruditeEric

    HTML 2.0? WTF? How out of date is BT?

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  • John

    At a late stage in the case, it emerged that BT is run as a number of separate divisions, and that Cleanfeed is only installed as an integral non-optional part of BT Retail. So it is only subscribers where BT are the ISP whose connections are affected by this. It does not affect connections served through BT Openreach and it appears not to affect custoimers of Plusnet even though that is owned by BT.

    The fact that this did not emerge until that stage suggests that the studios did not know about it. They possibly thought that by targetting BT, that it would affect all other ISP’s whose services are provided by way of access through the BT infrastraucture.

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  • BTEngineer

    It’s still accessible through a BT business connection.

  • BTEngineer

    It’s still accessible through a BT business connection.

  • http://twitter.com/NilSatisOptimum andrew cross

    Simple for the UK, we will end up with a Internet licence similar to the Tv licence.

  • Guest

    I believe it is time to prepare for abandoning the current internet that the corporation of parasites are stealing from the public.

    What will then happen is that they will be the official boring internet that almost no-one will use and the anonymous internet running on top of it to which corporations and governments will be excluded.

    It also very possible that people could abandon internet completely for a totally independent wifi network.

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  • Anonymous

    I believe it is time to torch all the head quarters of the corporation of parasites.

    Hollywood will burn down again for good this time and so will the MPAA.

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  • halem

    So why not just change ISP?

    Still fine on Virgin.

    When Virgin block it, again go elsewhere. Vote with your money it’s the only thing they understand.

    When no ISP will allow you to access particular domains/URLs/IP admins just need to set up direct dialups. Slow yes, but more than enough for NZB files or torrents.

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  • sammywammy

    The site is working fine on my 40mb BT Infinity line with just its normal URL.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15598438 <- Go ahead BT, i double dare ya

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  • Anonymous

    ta.gg/5jo

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  • Daniel Meah

    Its also blocked on o2 mobile broadband!

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    blocked by ip but https still works

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  • ShaggyDogg

    The judgement to BT from the MPA stinks of a desperate attempt by an entertainment industry fast running out of ideas of how to conduct its business in a technically evolving world.

    Wouldn’t it be a good idea for the ‘media industry’ to wake up to the 21st century get on-board and embrace ‘free’ file-sharing sites as a very cost effective means for them to distribute their own content? By simply throwing their weight around playing ‘big brother’ to restrict ISP with court orders only makes users more determined to undermine them (note the relatively easy workarounds commented in the article).

    By taking control back, they can drive out the “piracy” element of file-sharing, and put them back in driving seat of distributing quality and quantity media.

    With a little creative thinking there must be plenty of revenue streams open for possible financial exploitation. How about advertising through distributed content during download, adding additional files in the torrent, or on the distributor websites themselves. Cinemas, DVDs content, search & social network websites have been exploiting this for years. Like most, I hate advertising, but if it’s a means for this industry to quit with their draconian, narrow-minded approach, then why not?

    Another revenue stream could be having other ‘media’ type websites paying to advertise ‘teaser’ trailers sending traffic to the download site?

    Or, build a closer relationship with ‘free’ distribution of artists’ material with merchandising sold. There surely must be a market link between distribution and exposure with merchandise sales as a result?

    Or for studios to pay studios for quantity of downloads on whichever sites become most popular over time?

    These are just a couple of ideas off the top of my head, and I’ll leave the viability open to comment. My point is there’s surely plenty of alternative revenue streams to selling DVDs.
    All that’s needed is a little thinking outside-the-box.

  • ShaggyDogg

    The judgement to BT from the MPA stinks of a desperate attempt by an entertainment industry fast running out of ideas of how to conduct its business in a technically evolving world.

    Wouldn’t it be a good idea for the ‘media industry’ to wake up to the 21st century get on-board and embrace ‘free’ file-sharing sites as a very cost effective means for them to distribute their own content? By simply throwing their weight around playing ‘big brother’ to restrict ISP with court orders only makes users more determined to undermine them (note the relatively easy workarounds commented in the article).

    By taking control back, they can drive out the “piracy” element of file-sharing, and put them back in driving seat of distributing quality and quantity media.

    With a little creative thinking there must be plenty of revenue streams open for possible financial exploitation. How about advertising through distributed content during download, adding additional files in the torrent, or on the distributor websites themselves. Cinemas, DVDs content, search & social network websites have been exploiting this for years. Like most, I hate advertising, but if it’s a means for this industry to quit with their draconian, narrow-minded approach, then why not?

    Another revenue stream could be having other ‘media’ type websites paying to advertise ‘teaser’ trailers sending traffic to the download site?

    Or, build a closer relationship with ‘free’ distribution of artists’ material with merchandising sold. There surely must be a market link between distribution and exposure with merchandise sales as a result?

    Or for studios to pay studios for quantity of downloads on whichever sites become most popular over time?

    These are just a couple of ideas off the top of my head, and I’ll leave the viability open to comment. My point is there’s surely plenty of alternative revenue streams to selling DVDs.
    All that’s needed is a little thinking outside-the-box.

  • ShaggyDogg

    The judgement to BT from the MPA stinks of a desperate attempt by an entertainment industry fast running out of ideas of how to conduct its business in a technically evolving world.

    Wouldn’t it be a good idea for the ‘media industry’ to wake up to the 21st century get on-board and embrace ‘free’ file-sharing sites as a very cost effective means for them to distribute their own content? By simply throwing their weight around playing ‘big brother’ to restrict ISP with court orders only makes users more determined to undermine them (note the relatively easy workarounds commented in the article).

    By taking control back, they can drive out the “piracy” element of file-sharing, and put them back in driving seat of distributing quality and quantity media.

    With a little creative thinking there must be plenty of revenue streams open for possible financial exploitation. How about advertising through distributed content during download, adding additional files in the torrent, or on the distributor websites themselves. Cinemas, DVDs content, search & social network websites have been exploiting this for years. Like most, I hate advertising, but if it’s a means for this industry to quit with their draconian, narrow-minded approach, then why not?

    Another revenue stream could be having other ‘media’ type websites paying to advertise ‘teaser’ trailers sending traffic to the download site?

    Or, build a closer relationship with ‘free’ distribution of artists’ material with merchandising sold. There surely must be a market link between distribution and exposure with merchandise sales as a result?

    Or for studios to pay studios for quantity of downloads on whichever sites become most popular over time?

    These are just a couple of ideas off the top of my head, and I’ll leave the viability open to comment. My point is there’s surely plenty of alternative revenue streams to selling DVDs.
    All that’s needed is a little thinking outside-the-box.

  • http://www.isogenicengine.com Rob Evans

    Ok… this is very sad and totally against our nations free thinking spirit but honestly, the internet will never truly be censored unless the main backbone carriers start blocking stuff and I’d like to see the server-farm(s) they’ll need to packet-inspect that sort of traffic!

    Oh and just for the record, “It’s a sad day when a minor European nation decides to kow-tow to Hollywood and join China and Iran in blocking citizens from reading the views of others and accessing a search engine.”

    Wow… I think it’s a sad day when anyone considers that the UK is a “minor European nation”… founding member of the League of Nations which went on to become the United Nations and one of the few countries that stood up to the Nazi’s all the way through regardless of the immense human and financial cost.

    Oh and we currently have the 6th largest GDP in the world, are one of only 18 countries in the world that currently hold a triple-A international credit rating (yes, that club doesn’t include the USA), we are ranked 7th in the world for the number of world heritage sites, at one point our empire spanned a quarter of the world’s land mass and all from a tiny island smaller than most U.S. states and 78th on the land mass world ranking… minor my ass. Travel much?

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    Just one little thing to say to BT…..

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  • Ampdewd

    I’m on BT, and yet typing using http://newzbin.com still works. Is it just me? I’m not using any proxies, VPN’s or anything like that.

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