Psycho-Thriller ‘Blank’ Premieres For Free on BitTorrent

Written by enigmax on March 21, 2009 

Today a brand new movie has premiered but this is not the usual Hollywood-style launch. ‘Blank’, described as an intense psycho-thriller by director Rick L. Winters, will debut on DVD but you can get it for free on BitTorrent too – with the blessing of the entire cast and crew.

blankTimes are certainly changing and slowly but surely people are beginning to realize that rather than trying to fight piracy and destroy file-sharing networks, the best approach is to embrace your one-time rivals and try and create something positive.

Established in 2000 by director Rick L. Winters, Annodam Productions is an independent film company. A forward looking outfit, Annodam will premiere its latest movie ‘Blank‘, worldwide today.

‘Blank’ is the story of a Johnny, a young boy who witnesses the violent death of his parents and older sister. Roll on some 20 years later and Johnny becomes involved in crime with his adoptive father – who is also a crime boss. While watching a game of poker Johnny discovers who murdered his family and sets about planning his revenge. Johnny unwittingly becomes involved with a pair of serial killers and the whole movie climaxes with a bizarre and shocking end.

While the plot may seems standard Hollywood fare, the way this movie has been financed and is set to be distributed is not – Director Rick L.Winters explains, “The thing that makes this film unique is that it is a co-op based concept where the entire cast and crew worked on a deferred percentage of the film’s gross. In other words, the cast and crew own a percentage of the film’s gross, so the profits are not going to Hollywood executives but instead into the pockets of the filmmakers themselves.”

After receiving several distribution offers for ‘Blank’, Rick turned them all down.

“I have seen firsthand the greed that lurks in the Hollywood corporate circles,” he said while explaining that after he released his first film, the cast and crew couldn’t understand why a distribution company was making all the money. So instead, Rick decided to let the audience distribute ‘Blank’ for him – via BitTorrent.

“This time around the fate of the cast and crew getting paid is in the hands of the audience who watch the film. No Hollywood bank accounts being filled to turn out more crappy remakes,” he said, while adding that the future of film is “in the home market, through peer to peer distribution.”

Today, ‘Blank’ is released on DVD for $14.99, via online streaming and of course, for free on BitTorrent. “No one should have to pay for a film they did not like,” says Rick. “No one should be denied the right to enjoy the art of film.”

The idea is that if people like the movie after they have seen it, they should go to the ‘Blank’ website and make a donation. People are asked to donate what they feel the movie is worth, and in return will be invited to follow the production of the next movie, which they will have helped finance through their donation.

Rick told TorrentFreak, “I am excited with the aspects of peer to peer distribution and the possibilities. Giving everyone the opportunity to see my film for free in hope of receiving donations is a little nerve wrecking – wondering if I will receive enough donations to make my next film. The concept is still scary for independent filmmakers who don’t have the big budgets like the big studios and most of the time drain their personal accounts and run up credit just to get their film made, in hopes of recouping the cost of making the film.”

Several large BitTorrent sites including Mininova will be offering ‘Blank’, but undoubtedly it will spread to many others too. Rick L. Winters is also writing a book which will document the whole process so that others can use the same methods to distribute their own movies.

“I can only hope for the success of this endeavor to show the world that the revolution of peer to peer distribution can no longer be ignored and the time is now,” Rick told TorrentFreak. “I decided to try the concept of a coop base film in hopes of encouraging other independent filmmakers to come together and create and share the art of film for EVERYONE to enjoy.”

Congratulations to Rick and the crew for effectively ending the piracy of their movies and we wish them the best of luck with ‘Blank’ and all future success.

You can grab the torrent for the movie from Mininova.

Previously: NIN Launches BitTorrent Tracker for New Release

Next: Lawmakers Clueless About BitTorrent and P2P

59 Responses

1 Mar 21, 2009 at 16:07 by Eleriel

O_o
First NIN, now this? (though i’m guessing these guys started their project first, no?)

not a psycho-thriller movie fan per se, but i’d pay for this regardless.

2 Mar 21, 2009 at 16:18 by Verthik

The new distribution model is being firmly entrenched in the consciousness of the authors of media. Good to see this day. What everyone must realize is that this is not so much a monetary issue, but an issue of creative control.

Loosing control of the media is what scares the powers that be, more than anything else. They could care less about money, when you understand Fractional Reserve Banking you understand that all fiat money is a debt based fiction that is created from thin air.

It’s control of the public consciousness that is more important than any other aspect of current media. That ability to mold public opinion, which in past years was completely controlled by the major media operations, which in turn are owned by the major banking families.

The greatest freedom is the freedom of thought. In many ways that freedom has been under assault for years in such a subtle way that most people don’t even realize that a war is being waged.

The freedom of information flow on the internet is the best weapon we have in this fight. Everyone must realize this and fight to keep that flow free and uncensored.

3 Mar 21, 2009 at 16:23 by Amanda

@1 …”but i’d pay for this regardless….”

ROFL – you’d pay for it even if you didn’t like it… you sir are an first class idiot for sure.

In the past many people *say* “I would pay for it” and “It’s worth paying for” but in practice it doesn’t work like that – they have already experienced the content/product and don’t. Like with that J-Rock band that released most of the music of an upcoming album before the album was released, were heartened by many fans leaving reviews saying they “were going to buy the album for sure” – and then a pitiful number of album sales occurred.

It’s real easy to say “Oh yeah, I’ll definitely donate\purchase that” – few people follow through though.

Still, kudo to the producers of this, good to see that they’ve faced the reality that their work will be pirated in any case.

4 Mar 21, 2009 at 16:29 by Kosp

Downloading and sharing. I’d definately donate if I like the movie… and even if I don’t like it, hey, I’ll seed it ;-)

5 Mar 21, 2009 at 16:53 by Ghost

I don’t currently have access to a method to donate with, but if I like the movie, and I can find a way, there is a 100% chance of me donating. Until then, I will at very least seed it like there’s no tomorrow.

6 Mar 21, 2009 at 16:56 by BustaLinx

As for the movie; it’s probably crap, bigger studios won’t even bat an eyelid at the distribution method, and most people won’t donate, but good for them for trying something new.

7 Mar 21, 2009 at 17:14 by freetard

“It’s real easy to say “Oh yeah, I’ll definitely donate\purchase that” – few people follow through though.”
———

reality is a harsh mistress.

8 Mar 21, 2009 at 17:59 by Reasoned Mind

Volunteer payment models have been discredited for almost a decade now. If people actually gave, the costs might be covered and the next film produced. Instead, many people rarely pay when it is not mandatory. That’s just the way some people are. NIN and Reznor actually have to offer tangible product to make back their costs. So much for our grand “digital future.” lol

This model has no financial integrity at all and will fail.

9 Mar 21, 2009 at 18:13 by Izkata

@2: [
@1 …”but i’d pay for this regardless….”

ROFL - you’d pay for it even if you didn’t like it… you sir are an first class idiot for sure.
]

Nay, Amanda, you are the idiot. What Eleriel means to do is support the studios that are not stuck in the past. This is something I’ve been considering doing with video games that are DRM-free – buy it even if I never intend to play it, to boost sales and help show the companies that it’s the correct way to go.

10 Mar 21, 2009 at 18:35 by Baldur

@ 4

Thanks for the concern but I run Linux ;)

11 Mar 21, 2009 at 18:40 by CHRoNoSS

FROM canada WE CANT
it will cost too much
thanks to GREEDY ISPS

so thanks but no thanks

12 Mar 21, 2009 at 18:52 by _slacker_

go go go i have 12mb/s download 8mb/s upload :) :D
Added: 18 hours ago by AnnodamFilms

IMDb number: 1326196 (search for other releases)

Share ratio: Poor265 seeds, 1438 leechers

Last updated: 7 minutes ago

Downloads: 3,971

13 Mar 21, 2009 at 19:04 by Gargamel

As for this distro revelation as to how people are seeing it, its great to see some people finally coming around.

14 Mar 21, 2009 at 20:48 by CHRoNoSS

now then they tell you where the have a concert and guess what
people that like it might just pay to go
OMG interesting thought

15 Mar 21, 2009 at 20:49 by CHRoNoSS

watch out for musicians scalping tickets however

16 Mar 21, 2009 at 21:09 by DG

I’m looking forward to seeing this on Torrentfreaks top 10 download list.
It seems they are missing a good revenue source though… ADS!!
Seriously, put up a company logo in the corner or something and you can make tons of money.
Too bad they don’t show it in theaters though.
In any case i’ll be donating to this movie just to make a point, it’s well worth it.

17 Mar 21, 2009 at 21:50 by Movie-Torrentz

Congratulations to Rick and the crew for this release, We are donating to support Rick & the crew with any further films.

Regards
Movie-Torrentz Team

18 Mar 21, 2009 at 23:19 by St0fzguier

ima donate, even if the films turns out to be crap :D

19 Mar 22, 2009 at 00:20 by Alexey

I found the movie to be just too aweful to support. Although, I can see how enough people might like it for it to pay for itself. A good initiative nevertheless.

20 Mar 22, 2009 at 00:24 by Facchini

I can’t download :(. A LOT of peers with 100% completed, and upload capped to 1Kbps -_-
(DownSpeed 55kB/s UpSpeed 3.0mB/s)
19.0 Ratio, and 3% complete. Why ’speedcap’ the upload? Omg, torrent is not Only Leeching..
Sorry, but OnlyLeech is really annoying.

21 Mar 22, 2009 at 01:08 by Anonymous

@NubCakes/Amanda
/freetard/Reasoned Mind, four screen names, one MAFIAA troll
“ROFL – you’d pay for it even if you didn’t like it… you sir are an first class idiot for sure.”

LMAO

Well, I was wondering why NubCakes suddenly switched to a more polite, subtle form of trolling, from his usual abrasive, in-your-face trolling(ie, “I personally believe releasing movies at the same time in all regions wouldn’t make people pirate less” versus “LOL! PEOPLE DON’T PIRATE CUZ OF DELAYED RELEASES, YOU FIRST CLASS IDIOT! ANYBODY THAT SAYS SO IS A DELUSIONAL LIAR!! THEY ONLY DO IT CUZ ITS FREE!! HOW RETARDED ARE YOU, YOU RETARDED RETARD!?@?@!”).

Looks like you decided to spin off the abrasive trolling act into yet another screen name, which now makes a grand total of four multiple personalities under your belt.

Although I kind of hesitate to call them multiple personalities, since the only difference between all your screen names is how they phrase the exact same small collection of MAFIAA endorsed “points” ad infinity.

I do like how you’ve got this ‘curve of abrasiveness’ thing going since you neutered NubCakes and added Amanda, though. Now you have it positioned so NubCakes is your least offensive persona, gradually followed by Reasoned Mind, freetard, and finally Amanda, the new peak of your offensive commenting style. Your reason for doing this? Who knows. But it’s pretty entertaining to watch.

And speaking of ‘Amanda’, what’s with that name, anyway? Do you somehow think nobody will rip apart your BS anymore if you pretend to be a girl while you spout it? Come on, I think we’re all a little more progressive than that :D

@NubCakes/Amanda
/freetard/Reasoned Mind, four screen names, one MAFIAA troll
“In the past many people *say* “I would pay for it” and “It’s worth paying for” but in practice it doesn’t work like that”

You’ve said this a million times, ReasonedNubAmandatard. But you always fail to prove it.

You’ve never even been able to prove that one single, solitary person has ever been anything less than honest when they’ve said “I would pay for it” or “It’s worth paying for”. You can’t prove one single case, and yet you want people to believe your sweeping generalization?

Laugh.

You say “it doesn’t work like that”, but all you can ever seem to support it with is a great big handfull of thin air.

@NubCakes/Amanda
/freetard/Reasoned Mind, four screen names, one MAFIAA troll
“Like with that J-Rock band that released most of the music of an upcoming album before the album was released, were heartened by many fans leaving reviews saying they “were going to buy the album for sure” – and then a pitiful number of album sales occurred.”

“Like with that J-Rock band”?

Are you so allergic to backing up anything you say with proof, that you can’t even name them? Maybe you’re so used to spouting BS that cannot be backed up with proof that it didn’t even occur to you?

Or are you afraid of being sued if you reproduce their name in electronic writing? Don’t worry, son, this is a MAFIAA free zone. Well… Except for you, anyway.

But there’s something else I’m afraid you do have a reason to worry about; the MAFIAA is a sinking ship. The business model put forward by Rick L. Winters is the inevitable, unavoidable future of not only the movie industry, but the music and software industries as well. It’s time for you to consider a change of careers, else you’ll be findin’ yourself down in the briney depths with the SS MAFIAA courtesy of our 300lb cannons!

Yarr!

22 Mar 22, 2009 at 02:00 by freetard

@ 21, aka “anonymous” aka “coward”

i’m not any of the people you claim i am. you must be confusing me with roze who had, at one time, somewhere in the neighborhood of 5-6 (thousand) different aliases he was posting the same drivel under. but when every other word is “surely” it’s pretty easy to tell it’s just ol’ roze agreeing with himself some more, lol.

as for proof that pirates are not as charitable as they purport, try this:

(http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/07/08/new-study-shows-that-many-pirates-would-buy-movies-if-they-couldnt-pirate/)

and furthermore, if you plan on trying to make yourself look smarter using old latin phrases, the least you could do is actually quote them right. say it with me: “ad infinitum”. there you go! now you don’t sound like a flea-bit, webbed foot, cousin-humping redneck…

23 Mar 22, 2009 at 02:45 by BuggerMeButtocks

yup….that bout sums it up Nubs…Blah..

24 Mar 22, 2009 at 03:01 by moo

Doesn’t look like my type of movie.. so yeah

won’t buy it.
won’t download it.
‘might’ watch it if it pops up on the tv in a couple of years.

25 Mar 22, 2009 at 03:44 by NubCakes

“@NubCakes/Amanda
/freetard/Reasoned Mind, four screen names, one MAFIAA troll” … [followed by seemingly drug induced paranoid dribble)

Wow, congratulations sir, you’re right!! The circle is complete, the obama administration is a neo-con plot to achieve world domination, 911 never happened and the government is paying off 10, 000 people to say they saw planes fly into the World Trade and you’ve worked out that I’m posting as 4 different people sponsored by the **AA. COngratulations, you’re a self-confirmed confirmed conspiracy buster of the highest intelligence.

Of course in the effort to work out this great effort by the **AA to pull the wool over people eys you’ve failed to address the issue that I recommend people use Usenet, private trackers, point people towards better releases – usually by the scene, agree with people who can’t all be schills (…or can they: tin hats on mate): but don’t let reality get in the way of confirming your delusion.

Amazing how retarded people can be: and of course this comment according to you will just be an effort to discredit your post and prove that I’m not 3 other people and a “paid **AA proaganda troll” – but I’m sure you’re way to intelligent to fall for that right… LMAO.

I’m often critical of this site because whilst I agree with the general tone and subject it is my opinion that often they misreport events and colour articles with what I regard as opinion and bias in order to push views and the agenda of copyright infringment and getting the law changed regarding this: just like the recording/**AA industry does but that doesn;t make it right now does it moron?.

I’ll leave you to your delusions… I’m sure you think that your pretty clever because you “worked it out right” and your analysis is just top notch, don’t let me get in the way of you thinking that you’re infallible and could *gasp* possibly be wrong right, that would ruin th edelusion? LMAO.

Anyhow… I wish TF hadn’t deleted DAVO’s posts, that was the most amusing troll I’ve seen for ages :P

26 Mar 22, 2009 at 04:50 by Co-op worker

The Co-Op model has been is use for decades in the independent theatre scene. It works. It won’t make you a bazillion dollars or buy an endless supply of cocaine for the lead actors but you can make enough to live on.

All the people who are saying it won’t work have obviously never had any kind of experience with using alternative finance methods so their opinions can be safely ignored.

As for this particular movie, I’ll download it and make up my own mind.

27 Mar 22, 2009 at 06:43 by your_mom

this was unwatchable

28 Mar 22, 2009 at 07:27 by Anonymous

i love bit torrent. thank you for this

29 Mar 22, 2009 at 07:27 by Anonymous

@ freetard (aka “NubCakes” aka “Amanda” aka “Reasoned Mind”)
“i’m not any of the people you claim i am.”

So you’re not freetard?

Oh dear :(

Either logic or English appear to have failed you. Possibly both. I’m leaning more towards English, though, after your epic struggle to spell the word ‘fallacious’ awhile back.

Is this your second langauge? Maybe third? If it is, tell me. Seriously, I’ll go easy on you. Cross my heart and hope to die, stick a needle in my eye. :D

@ freetard (aka “NubCakes” aka “Amanda” aka “Reasoned Mind”)
“as for proof that pirates are not as charitable as they purport, try this:

(http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/07/08/new-study-shows-that-many-pirates-would-buy-movies-if-they-couldnt-pirate/)

ROFL.

I actually took the liberty of reading the study you linked to(futuresource-consulting.com/press/2008-07_HomeCopyingWhitePaper.pdf), something that you obviously didn’t.

If you had, you’d realise it was aimed at people who make physical copies of DVDs at home using recording hardware. Copies of legit DVDs they either borrowed from a friend, rented, or actually purchased.

In the latter two cases, we’re talking about people who’ve already comitted to spending money on DVDs. In all three cases, we’re talking about people who prefer an actual disc over a virtual file.

So is anybody surprised that the majority of them said that if DVD copying wasn’t possible, then they’d buy more DVDs? If they want to own hard copies, then buying them would become their only option.

The whole thing is basically just an advertisement for Macrovision, anyway, hence the essentially rigged question.

It’s almost like asking, “Hello, sir! I have a survey for you! If cars didn’t exist, would you stop driving one?”

But all this is neither here nor there. The point is, your proof that “in the past many people *say* “I would pay for it” and “It’s worth paying for” but in practice it doesn’t work like that” doesn’t even have anything to do with the claim. Infact, I just had to explain to you what this proof of yours actuallywas, because you had no idea. Were you pulling links out of a hat? Blindfolded?

You are made of fail.

@ freetard (aka “NubCakes” aka “Amanda” aka “Reasoned Mind”)
“say it with me: “ad infinitum”. there you go! now you don’t sound like a flea-bit, webbed foot, cousin-humping redneck…”

I think ‘infinitum’ sounds really pretentous, so I always say ‘ad infinity’. I couldn’t care less if it’s incorrect.

Now what’s your excuse for “flea-bit” and “webbed foot” when it should be “flea-bitten” and “web footed”?

We could spend all night sniping at eachothers’ grammar and composition, because I don’t care if I make a typo or mix a Latin expression with English, and you’re obviously beyond help. But I-type-better-than-you-do wars are stupid things, so let’s not.

Let’s keep our eyes on the ball, here; You’re a hired plant working for the MAFIAA, using four poorly disguised screen names to endlessly repeat the same IFPI/RIAA/MPAA dogma that filesharing is bad, people only do it because it’s free and convenient hence the MAFIAA is exonerated from blame, and using The Pirate Bay will give you AIDs.

I’d say, “and no alternative business model can compete with filesharing”, but that falls under the “only because it’s free and easy” category.

Would you like to continue your humiliation, or do you want to quit while you’re ahead?

30 Mar 22, 2009 at 07:28 by Support the concept!!

One of the early posters said you’re an idiot if you pay for the movie and you don’t like it… I disagree, because:

a) most movies are crap and people pay to see them, and

b) it makes sense to reward the makers for their initiative and taking a risk…

c) it encourages others to go down a similar path – which is good for everyone…

31 Mar 22, 2009 at 07:54 by Anonymous

Seeing as this Amanda character has posted twice as far as I am aware how the hell is what your doing anything but linking a group of people together that say stuff you don’t agree with and saying that they are MPAA plants?

Give me a break you dumbass… no one here knows where anybody comes from or who impersonates who, why don’t you STFU because you have no way of knowing most of the stuff you claim… speaking of people that are humiliating themselves, LOL!

32 Mar 22, 2009 at 08:04 by Dazzer

While I applaud this effort, I can’t help but feel skeptical that this will end “piracy”. It only effectively ends the piracy of its product, because they officially offer it for free.

How many donations would they need to make their gross a profitable one? And how many people would actually donate?

Look at World of Goo. Given the choice between buying an indie effort for a low price, and playing the game free, majority of people chose to play it free.

33 Mar 22, 2009 at 08:26 by Widget

Just also putting this against Freetard, the company who sponsored the study that shows piracy blah blah blah actually makes money from *selling* anti-piracy services, so it’s clearly in their best interest to convince people that piracy is evil and everyone should be sued.

See http://www.macrovision.com/products/1154.htm

34 Mar 22, 2009 at 10:37 by very rarely post

I think that for people who usually pirate stuff (me), they will pay. But only if it is something that is worth it. I dl the dark knight, and then bought it on bluray. I dl every TOOL album, then i buy them on vinyl. I dl world of goo, got bored, uninstalled it. Same with 95% of games. I wont buy full albums anymore at all without dl them first. Same with movies. When I enjoy something enough that it is worth my very limited amount of money i have available, only then will i actually purchase.

35 Mar 22, 2009 at 13:06 by Welshie

@ by very rarely post

“When I enjoy something enough that it is worth my very limited amount of money i have available, only then will i actually purchase.”

Well said.

I remember back in the ‘dark ages’ (before fast internet connections) my friends used to buy videotapes (wikipedia it!) of unaired tv programes recorded in the USA. When the shows eventually made it to the UK, my friends would buy the video box sets of them, along with the tv tie-in novels, posters and any other merchandise they could lay their eager little fingers on.

They later updated to DVD’s of these shows, and now blueray.

The very notion that ALL pirates don’t support the content providers is nonsense. How else does more new (and better) entertainment get funded?

My friends who buy all the merchandise (and continue to download new shows & purchase them when released) are not in the minority. For those few who download without spending, my friends are more than happy to contribute on their behalf.

BTW, I think my friends all have OCD cos’ they love to hoard… you should see their attics!

The pirates are winning! The content providers are adapting (slowly). The old ways are dying.

Cool time to be alive!

36 Mar 22, 2009 at 13:47 by John Davis

Wow dude, Bit Torrent ROCKS as usual!

RT

37 Mar 22, 2009 at 13:48 by Jack Boatright

Bit Torrent just keeps on getting better and better doesnt it.

http://www.online-privacy.pro.tc

38 Mar 22, 2009 at 13:57 by Maroan

As many have pointed here, many people will download the movie and wont donate a dime for it. On the other hand many as well will donate, for supporting the production team, or for encouraging the idea of free filesharing. All in all I think the company will get hits money back, and maybe a bit more. And for once, notice that it will not be some bucks loving uncreative company that will score the cash, but the artists that have written, created and produced their own work who will be the winners… Worth to remember. I have allways been chocked to see that the artists that in fact created marvellous things were them who get least money out of their works… I know my english is a bit clumsy, but I hope I made my point! And by the way, I will support this movie! (Allready done!)

39 Mar 22, 2009 at 14:26 by Anonymous

Someone said people don’t pay if they already have the content because that’s how some people are. No, that’s because how most people are. Why the fk would we give money away?

Sure, some people will support the concept or just spite MPAA, but in general consumers only pay for what they must. Furthermore, donating to charity is a better cause…

40 Mar 22, 2009 at 14:44 by lols

Ernesto, you screwed up the link to their website.

41 Mar 22, 2009 at 15:04 by JTK

YES!!! THIS IS IT!!!!

As is always with the greedy film and music industrys, they eventually learn that new technology needs to be embraced, not destroyed, and it looks like its finally beginning to happen!

Too bad they never learn from their mistakes and need to re-learn this for every new technology that comes out, though.

42 Mar 22, 2009 at 17:18 by asdf

I’m seeding this with 10Mbps to show support!

43 Mar 22, 2009 at 19:11 by Anonymous

Will rick l. winters reimburse me for the time I spent watching this piece of shit? I take paypal also.

44 Mar 22, 2009 at 19:21 by Think about it

What I can’t figure out is why are people discussing whether or not a donation-based distribution method will be successful or not? That’s what the creators of this movie decided to do. Get over it. Bittorrent is not just for pirating illegally. Get over it. I applaud the studio even though I haven’t been able to make it further than 12 minutes into the movie.

Absurd logic : If something is free, no one will buy it? Then why on earth do so many box sets of TV shows everyone could have taped do so well. I personally think that maybe your brain doesn’t work right. It’s bad enough running around telling people that what they do is illegal even though it’s not, but you’ve also resorted to telling the rights owners that what they even do with their own movie is a bad idea. Think about it.

45 Mar 22, 2009 at 21:56 by Anonymous

this is great, to bad i’m a greedy bastard and don’t even wanna download this movie.
Hope they get some profit so more producers/actors follow their example.

46 Mar 22, 2009 at 22:13 by schadenfreude

I don’t even know if this qualifies as a film. The writing, acting, and sound are so bad I don’t believe for a minute that they received “several distribution offers.”

The product doesn’t even meet the minimum requirements for DVD distribution, so they did the next best thing-a publicity stunt where they claim to be sticking it to The Man AND P2P pirates at the same time. The producer/director always pays himself first, after recouping expenses, so there’s zero chance anyone else involved will see a dime for their work.

to Think about it-There’s no studio involvement here, so who are you applauding?

47 Mar 23, 2009 at 00:58 by Anonymous

“What I can’t figure out is why are people discussing whether or not a donation-based distribution method will be successful or not?”

Are you stupid? Because that decides if it’s viable. If they cannot function based on that model, it won’t go ahead, idiot.

“Then why on earth do so many box sets of TV shows everyone could have taped do so well.”

Because most people didn’t tape them and they decided they want them now. Or don’t want the hassle. You are comparing apples with oranges, moron.

I think you are the one who needs to think about this if you can, because you obviously have no clue, you retarded retard coming here to badmouth others.

48 Mar 23, 2009 at 02:38 by vito

donated

49 Mar 23, 2009 at 02:59 by God 2.0

There is a forum, Douche.

As for the movie, I say, about 4/10. Not my cup of tea anyways. But cheers on for this kind of distribution. Will seed until my ratio is up. but, thanks to a very greedy bandwidth cap… sorry gents. I am curious how this will work out for the studio.

btw, trolling torrentfreak is the ultimate basement dweller douchbagery.

50 Mar 23, 2009 at 08:12 by Think about it

@ 47 Mar 23, 2009 at 00:58 by Anonymous

No, you’re stupid. It’s already gone ahead and I’ve downloaded the movie. And you could as well. So why debate the success or failure of the distribution model that has been chosen. Unless you have a movie you plan to release in this fashion? Then you need to be talking to the creators of this movie to find if it was successful instead of debating fantasy in your head.

You chose to insult the creators of the film for their chosen method of distribution (instead of the movie itself). You claim that you would never buy something that’s free but claim one free is apples and the other oranges. You insult without offering an answer to any of my questions (insults are not answers). The point is – none of your lies will change reality. Get over it.

51 Mar 23, 2009 at 10:42 by PG Tips

Responding to #46 schadenfreude above, thanks for saving me the time and space of downloading this movie. I have seen a lot of indie films, so I understand what you mean about the overall quality of the production without even seeing it. I do however think the filmmakers have a good idea in utilizing p2p for distribution. If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em comes to mind. Also, though, I think it important to mention that there is no substitute for a good, dependable, reputable, professional distributor who can get your film into theaters and up your dvd sales. Most filmmakers don’t have the contacts, knowledge or financing to make this possible. True, there are also a lot of hack distribs out there but there are also a lot of honest, hard working reps who can make a film’s success. They go to the film markets, build reputations with theater owners and stores and online merchants. They arrange advertising, publicity, duplication, graphics, design, and often front the P & A money needed for all that. Going it on your own is akin to selling your own house vs. using a real estate broker or representing yourself in court. You can do it but you won’t do it as well, and wouldn’t you also rather be spending that time and energy on your next film project instead?

52 Mar 23, 2009 at 17:12 by Antkiller

crappy film…..

53 Mar 23, 2009 at 19:05 by BadMoJo

Just ordered it. paid my $14.99 and hope it is a good movie.
Now I will grab the torrent.

54 Mar 23, 2009 at 20:26 by NeverL

downloaded and didnt like.

BUT

a lot better then i expected
better screenplay and dialogue…

55 Mar 25, 2009 at 18:28 by Anonymous

“No, you’re stupid. It’s already gone ahead and I’ve downloaded the movie.”

For fuck’s sake. You call me stupid but completely misunderstand what I said. I was not talking about this movie only, but the entire donation-based model. That’s what was already under discussion here, moron, who cannot follow the conversation.

“So why debate the success or failure of the distribution model that has been chosen.”

Because people are obviously interested in how viable it is, if it will fail or succeed and is worth investing in. How hard is that for you to understand? Besides what do you even have against others debating what ever the hell they want? How is it any of your business? Stop trying to control us!

“You chose to insult the creators of the film for their chosen method of distribution”

WHAT? I did no such thing! This clearly proves that you _completely_ misunderstood what I was saying. I could try to explain better, but at this point it feels so futile that I’ll just give up. You just accept that you totally failed to grasp my message…

56 Mar 25, 2009 at 18:56 by EdLyness

NOTE; If you’ve not yet seen the movie… DON’T WASTE YOUR TIME. IT SUCKS!

Really REALLY terrible movie.

the ONLY reason I downloaded it was because I believed in its torrent distribution method, and I was planning on donating. but this is such a vile piece of tripe that I should be charging THEM for having taken up space in my mind. It sucked.

Violence just for the sake of violence? Why not just watch a traffic accident reel?

TO THE CREW: Please – do us all a favor, and find another line of work. I just can’t stress to you ALL how awful this was. I appreciate that there must have been a lot of work put into this film, but really, all of the actors and especially the director, should consider getting jobs working at the local humane society killing unwanted animals. That way, their desire to inflict pain would actually serve a purpose.

I will now proceed to scrub this download from my harddrive, and let as many users know NOT to waste their bandwidth.

Too bad… such an innovative distribution method for such a stinking pile.

57 Mar 25, 2009 at 20:39 by joe blow

EdLyness,
what happen to the old saying “if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all”? anyways i do agree the film left alot to be desired, but what were you expecting a diamond in the ruff. i think alot of these comments have gotten away from mr winters main goal and that was to let you the auidence decide what you feel the film is worth not to bash and write how trashy and violent the film was itself. hopefully this method picks up for more indie film makers.

but in reality i never expect hollywood to participate in this method. so hats off to the blank cast and crew for trying to revive the peer to peer method of distribution.

lastly, i did not like the film, but i respect their effort.

58 Mar 25, 2009 at 22:43 by promise keeper

@joe blow,
You know this is the internet, right? this movie doesn’t live up to the hype, so its getting picked apart. deal.

oh and P2P doesn’t need a revival it does fine with a quality product.

59 Mar 29, 2009 at 00:52 by klarakluck

What about subtitles. The Internet is a big thing. Sweden is a little bit of it, but we’d like to download, share and pay/donate in terms of ability.
Is this a joke? No one says no to a fat income.
Just a trick, just one film.
I don’t believe this is for real. Just another way for the wrong people to make a profit.
You see, after the latest events in Sweden about filesharing, and the thing about DRM, there is a great mistrust against big company’s will to make an effort in making culture like music, film and other things available for the big audience.
It is a long, long way back for you/them to have our confidence. If ever…

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