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Lawyers For ‘Imposter’ P2P Software Threaten Open-Source Team

A company trying to pass itself off as vendors of the open-source file-sharing software Shareaza, has set the legal dogs on the real Shareaza forum. Discordia Ltd, who earlier turned Bearshare and iMesh into pay services, demanded action after a member of the real Shareaza forum suggested a DOS attack on the site.

When the news started to break in December last year, it looked bleak for the real Shareaza project. A company had somehow gained control of Shareaza.com, the domain name used previously for the real, open-source Shareaza P2P client, and was now passing its own pay service client off as the real thing. Something was seriously wrong, with many putting the pieces together into what could only be described as a conspiracy.

Now, lawyers for the “fake” or “imposter” Shareaza are threatening the real Shareaza team for a comment made by a user on their forum – things are getting out of hand. So how did this begin?

Last year a company associated with the French RIAA somehow obtained the Shareaza.com domain name from its owner, Mr Jonathan Nilson, who was given the domain in the belief he would keep it safe. Nilson would neither confirm nor deny that he had sold the domain, but speculation suggests that he may have sold it to avoid legal action. Others suggest the domain expired. Either way, the original owners of the domain (the Shareaza creators) don’t have it anymore.

Now the owners of the ‘fake’ Shareaza had control of the domain name previously associated with the real product (shareaza.com), it became easy to pretend to be them. There are two screenshots below – one is the ‘fake’ domain and one is the real thing. Can you spot the imposter?

FakeShareaza

RealShareaza

The real, open source client is represented by the bottom graphic. The ‘fake‘ is at the top and according to Neglacio ;

ShareazaV4, is totally fake. It violates the open-source license, GPL (Version 2) in many ways. Also, it isn’t free nor open source. It requires a subscription and installs a suspicious toolbar. You can read what happened from this reference list: http://tinyurl.com/2cx7ff

Please, update your Shareaza version to Shareaza 2.3.1.0, and change the site from Shareaza.com to the new official site at Sourceforge: http://shareaza.sourceforge.net .

Understandably, the real Shareaza team and users are really upset that this outfit has effectively stolen their brand name from under their noses in a hostile takeover, and is actively ruining their reputation. It’s no surprise that emotions run high when people are ripped off so when a new signup to the real Shareaza forums suggested a small way to get back at the people doing this to them, it wasn’t anything so special. A user called Red Squirrel posted (quote courtesy of Google.com) :

Make it so the real shareaza program queries their site [shareaza.com] every couple of seconds. As an individual user this won’t take much personal bandwidth. But all shareaza users worldwide put together should be enough to kill their server and they won’t really be able to do much since it will be coming from so many different IPs.

Even though a moderator outlined that this behavior might be considered illegal, that wasn’t enough for Meister Seelig & Fein, lawyers representing the company that took over Shareaza.com. Despite now passing themselves off as the real Shareaza, the ‘imposter’ outfit clearly thinks they have the law on their side too. In correspondence sent to the ‘real’ Shareaza team:

This law firm represents Discordia, Ltd., the operator of the website Shareaza.com and owner of the rights in the Shareaza branded software distributed from that domain. Please be advised, that your forum contains a string of posts under the title: “suggestion to kill Shareaza.com.” Under the string, the poster, RedSquirrel offers directions for users of Shareaza software to implement a DoS that would have the effect of destroying or seriously impairing our client’s application and network. The poster OldDeath also offers a manner to illegally attack our client’s business.

Despite whatever complaints your forum’s users may have with our client’s proper and legal business activities, the type of activity promoted on your forum is illegal. Therefore, we request that you immediately remove this string of posts and any future strings of this nature. My client respects your users’ rights to express their points of view. However, the line is crossed when users begin to promote the destruction of a legitimate business (evidently based on out some misguided belief that artists and others who create music should not be fairly compensated for their efforts) via illegal or other predatory means.

If the above cited illegal activity on your site does not immediately cease and desist, our client will take all necessary action to vigorously and relentlessly protect its rights. To be clear, if this action is not immediately taken and, as result, our client’s business is harmed, we will not only pursue, locate and hold fully responsible each and every one of those who have implemented this, or any similar DoS, but also those responsible for maintaining your site and the forums.

Please confirm that the requested action is being taken immediately.

Jeffrey A. Kimmel

Meister Seelig & Fein, LLP
140 E. 45th St., 19th Fl.
New York, NY 10017
(212) 655-3578

Meister Seelig & Fein is the same law firm that struck the distribution deal between iMesh and SonyBMG, so their involvement in this issue is no surprise.

Shareaza.com is offering a pay client that no file sharer wants, for many reasons, including keeping all hashes, downloaded files and chat logs in a database. We certainly don’t recommend it.

Those who prefer the real, free, open-source Shareaza experience should get along to Sourceforge or to this thread where all the genuine domains point.

On the one hand, The Pirate Bay lose a domain they bought legitimately because the IFPI doesn’t like it, but when a music industry outfit attempts the destruction of a completely legal piece of open source software by passing itself off as the real thing, no-one blinks. Sign of the times?

Update: It appears that Shareaza.com has been marked as a web forgery, illustrated in the screenshot below.

ShareazaPhish?

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  • Winrar

    That totally blows!

  • Gissa

    If there is a S client that actually uses the idea of DoSing them…. just tell me where to download it…

  • qwertyuiop

    I’d bloody DOS them if I had the time and resources. The stuff these guys are doing is pretty much as illegal as filesharing.

  • in.cog.nito

    fuck them. all the more reason they aren’t getting my money one way or another.

  • andyness

    How come that the ones with the domain ownes the trademark? Thats dumb.

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  • Anon

    [quote comment="297817"]I’d bloody DOS them if I had the time and resources. The stuff these guys are doing is pretty much as illegal as filesharing.[/quote]

    No, it is more illegal. They are making money of pirated files. This is the kind of thing that costs society money.
    Why can’t the RIAA/MPAA go after these bastards?

  • rich

    @6

    the RIAA/MPAA go after soft targets, not the ones with lawyers and money

  • r00t

    Wow. I’m actually amazed by the things happening online these days. This is bad, really bad.

  • Alenônimo

    Dude, the site shareaza.com is offline!

  • Joe

    If the fake shareaza violates the gpl as Neglacio says, why don’t the real shareaza developers have the Software Freedom Law Center file a suit against shareaza.com?

  • George W. Bush

    Mah ree-spons:

    Fuck Discordia, Ltd., Meister Seelig & Fein, Jeffrey A. Kimmel,
    ShareazaDoTcOm, & Jonathan Nilson for selling them the domain.

    DDoS, here we come… =]

  • Pistol

    It’s illegal to make a suggestion??

  • MAg

    Ummm… isnt this trying to censor the net?

  • MAg

    I mean free speech on my site… so fuck you on your site, right?

  • Anonymous

    if they’re violating gpl they should be sent a dmca takedown request and they’d be forced to comply.

  • RephiC

    DDoS on the way.

  • anonymous

    anonymous will attack.

  • meister!

    maybe the shareaza client should query Meister Seelig & Fein’s site instead/as well ;)

  • me

    [quote=Anon]
    @6
    qwertyuiop wrote:

    I’d bloody DOS them if I had the time and resources. The stuff these guys are doing is pretty much as illegal as filesharing.

    No, it is more illegal. They are making money of pirated files. This is the kind of thing that costs society money.
    Why can’t the RIAA/MPAA go after these bastards?
    [/quote]

    The chances are the riaa/mpaa ass tunnelers, wont go after these people. For the simply fact the chances are the people that are running this scam, are in fact the Ass tunnelers of the riaa/mpaa.

  • Anonymous

    Anyone remember when this happened to Azureus…

  • NastyBedazzler

    Uh, this is GAF (Gay as Fuck). I think it’s crazy that these guys have the balls to threaten the real Shareaza with legal action.

  • Crandom

    confirmed, shareaza.com is down or no more!

  • Joe

    @Crandom

    That is false. The fake site at shareaza.com is working perfectly for me.

  • hash

    nope its still up.

    But this amazes me, the fact that they’ve kicked up such a stink about a forumites comments has bought their own underhand practices to light. What a bunch of douchebags.

  • qwertyuiop

    [quote comment="297829"][quote comment="297817"]I’d bloody DOS them if I had the time and resources. The stuff these guys are doing is pretty much as illegal as filesharing.[/quote]

    No, it is more illegal. They are making money of pirated files. This is the kind of thing that costs society money.
    Why can’t the RIAA/MPAA go after these bastards?[/quote]

    That makes the situation worse then. And the MPAA are like the school bully. They’ll go after the defencless people but let the guys with lawyers do whatever the fuck they want, because they know they can’t win. It’s disgusting.

  • jerusalem_spider

    Shareaza? really who gives a shit? does any one use it? does any one pay for it? just a few fools.

  • DreadWingKnight

    IIRC, there are NPOs that will sue for GPL violations on behalf of groups like the Shareaza official team. Perhaps they could be contacted.

  • Anonymous

    Cant believe they could do that..
    Blow the **** out of that site tbh!

  • eisenherz

    The fake site is working.

    If you guys attack it, I’m with you.

  • P2P NAZI

    This affects bittorrent how???????????

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="297943"]This affects bittorrent how???????????[/quote]

    Shareaza has a built in torrent client.

  • Joe

    @30

    Among other things, the Shareaza program implements the bittorrent protocol, so this definitely has to do with bittorrent

  • Neglacio

    Shareaza.com has been included in the Spybot – Search&Destroy HOST rules.
    Meaning, everyone who regularly updates Spybot, will not be able to contact Shareaza.com or any derivatives.
    Thanks Spybot!

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="297817"]The stuff these guys are doing is pretty much as illegal as filesharing.[/quote]

    Hello?

    Filesharing is 100% legal. It’s WHAT files some people choose to share that’s the point of contention.

    The crooks that now own the shareaza domain name, however, are violating the GPL. So, no. What they’re doing isn’t “pretty much the same as filesharing”.

    Also, by threatening the REAL Shareaza team, the imposters have revealed that their little hijacking scheme has been so ineffective at reducing the Shareaza community, that the whole operation can be DoS’ed into oblivion just by making the real client query it every couple of seconds.

    The only thing these retards have accomplished is embarassing themselves.

  • ThuggleS

    Murder should be legal…i’d start with those lawyers.

  • Rycon

    These people really suck dick and if they arent careful, will be taken down by a group of hackers that dont approve of there actions.

    Learn from media defender.

  • Paco420

    [quote comment="297877"]It’s illegal to make a suggestion??[/quote]
    Conspiracy is what they call it.

  • oce

    Hi, all there. This is for me the good value itself that other ppl are supporting discriminated Shareaza users. This “Fakeaza” and Discordia scandal affects also on other P2P as Shareaza is eDonkey2000(emule)+torrents+G1+Gnutella2 client. So in fact they probably want to takeover one by one all P2P nets and servers then turn them into centralised pay service. How it is done you can see on your own eyes. Orwell story and BigBrother are angels of freedom and mercy comparing to “Fakeaza” stealing domain, black mailing users and devs, stealing brand artworks, violating licences and our rights, etc. The most funny situation is when a thief want to put to court his victim for victim is trying/thinking how to defend against aggression and being stolen. Take this under consideration very carefully as today our Shareaza but tomorrow your program/net will be attacked. Second funny fact is that is going on in the States and Shareaza licence, whole society work and individual’s intelectual rights has got completely none protection, but many authorities from there are saying loudly about violating licences and rights in other countries. Meanwhile a freedom of free culture, free music (free are CommonRights (CC) and open sources) freedom of speaking is less then nothing important. If you would like to support Shareaza you can run it in your machine (oryginal one, from http://www.shareaza.sourceforge.net currently 2.3.1.0) it works also as emule and has got some extra features. Making net bigger prevents all of us from Fakeaza and perhaps discordia conspiracy against internet users. Or maybe rather their future victims and net slaves?

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  • The Th!ng

    I’m with Gissa on this one,

    Show me where to download a client that DDOS’s em into oblivion, I’ll leave me computer running as long as need be.

    I hope that the wives and girlfriends of those scumbags grow cocks in place of their pussys too.

  • ugioid

    Yo!
    Dont know why… but just going there and constantly hitting CTRL+refresh makes me feel so much better…

    Am thinking maybe make a html page with 20 frames that keep refreshing themselves via a meta tag…

    anybody else think its worth it?

  • ugioid

    oops for those not into html, the above html page would basically be the same as you visiting the site 20 times every few seconds… and if enough people do the same.. it would equal a DDoS so not sure if its a good idea..

  • The Th!ng

    Hi ugioid, thanks for posting that – anything to hurt the bastards.

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  • The Th!ng

    People could do it from internet cafe’s too – completely anonymous.

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  • cc

    Shareaza, this software still exist . I though that they extinct long ago

  • Anonymous

    “Dont know why… but just going there and constantly hitting CTRL+refresh makes me feel so much better…”

    That’s either extremely cute or horribly pathetic. I can’t decide.

    “Shareaza has a built in torrent client.”

    Yeah, likely the worst implementation you can find. There are dozens of better alternatives for every operating system and every demands (with GUI for dummies, with GUI for experts, console interface, completely headless). Shareaza does neither implement DHTs nor encryption. Same goes for its Gnutella and edonkey support. The only thing it might be good at is its own little G2 network. Unless you’re a die-hard Shareaza fan, just move on, nothing to see here.

    “confirmed, shareaza.com is down or no more!”

    Either they banned your IP address automatically – good firewalls detect such silly DOS attacks and just drop the packets. Or maybe you shouldn’t use PG2 with BlueTack’s list because a lot of websites will be “magically” offline if you do.

    “Discordia, Ltd” however must be destroyed. They can be destroyed. They will be destroyed. It’s that simple.

  • jackstraw

    http://www.bandoo.com/ is this the same group of idiots?

    I frankly can’t believe this crap! They are clearly in for a rude surprise.

  • Pistol

    [quote comment="297966"][quote comment="297877"]It’s illegal to make a suggestion??[/quote]
    Conspiracy is what they call it.[/quote]

    Nobody was conspiring, he suggested they could attack the website, but the moderator told him that was illegal.
    There is no wrongdoing.
    I can suggest to attack an embassy but someone would undoubtedly point out that’s illegal.
    Should I be sued?

  • prodigydancer

    DDoS? Hah. These guys from Discordia must be shot. Yes, I mean it. Two in the chest and one in the head for each and every last one of them.

  • nick m

    ya no whats funny is on the fake website at shareaza.com on the bottom it says”© 1999-2008 Discordia Ltd. All rights reserved. See our Privacy Policy & License Agreement.” isnt that copyright infringement because discordia isnt associated with te shareaza.com domain any more? i think ddosing would be great

  • Jeffrey A. Kimmel will be my bitch

    “If the above cited illegal activity on your site does not immediately cease and desist, our client will take all necessary action to vigorously and relentlessly protect its rights.”

    You mean as opposed to your client’s illegal activity? Hey scumbag, why don’t you vigorously and relentlessly kiss my ass.

    “To be clear, if this action is not immediately taken and, as result, our client’s business is harmed, we will not only pursue, locate and hold fully responsible each and every one of those who have implemented this, or…blah, blah, blah.”

    Oooh! I’m so-o-o scared. I can’t stop trembling at the thought of that mighty team of crooked shysters (Meister Seelig & Fein, LLP.

    Come get some, punk. And pursue, locate, and hold THIS. :P

  • ande

    These people are evidently out of Israel. The have a front company from Scottsdale AZ, of all places. Maybe someone would go Jihad on their ass?

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  • SPYCOPY

    Gooks in the wire!!! Gooks in the wire!! Attack Attack…………

  • Wayne Smallman (a.k.a. Forbes Bingley)

    Hi guys! I hope the exposure on Digg helped out…

  • Jack

    God damn RIAA, why can’t people just enjoy things for free?! Given the chance, I would buy that shirt for sure. Definitely would be a top 3 on this list

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  • Anonymous

    I’ll fucking ddos them myself. Hell maybe we should have an imposter DDos day. Everyone oil your ‘F5′ keys!!!

  • Phil

    They’re neither seelig nor fein. And as for Meisters, they seem to be serving someone else!

  • ddos

    you know what to do anon.

  • GunOfSod

    EFF

  • Sue them

    Sue them for violation of GPL, Copyright infringment (as the sharezaa team have copyright on the program), maybe even fraud (for trying to pass shareza off as their own product).

    If you can get them for GPL violation they have to stop distributing their version until the copyright holders give them permision to do so again.

    Make it a good high profile case.. no doubt the FSF will help in the fight, they may even provide the laywers.

  • SomeoneElse

    I have set my desktop, with it’s college 55mbit pipeline, to DOS this site. Soon, the 45mbit pipeline will also be doing this.
    I’m targetting the frontpage, hoping that it will max out the database connections, if it uses one.

  • AA

    Algeria Attacks.

  • Kenny

    That makes absolutely no sense , since when are owners of a site responsible for what users put on it.

    Regardless of the fact that those scammers deserved that comment ( i would even say , they deserve more) , they should go after the author of the comments , not the site owners .

    I mean , moderators are only human beings , after all .

    If they go for that DDOS , count me in :-)

    I just hope they won’t go after torrentfreak now .

  • dubious_1

    [quote comment="297827"]How come that the ones with the domain ownes the trademark? Thats dumb.[/quote]

    If you read the letter, they make no claim to owning a trademark, only that they own the shareaza branded software hosted at that site. In fact they do have the law on their side since the original shareaza failed to do anything to protect the name (trademark registration) and their client legally ( as far as we know ) obtained the domain.
    Nobody has a “right” to a specific domain, and if the established legal process for protecting your product name (trademarking for example) are not taken, then you cannot expect to be protected from poaching.
    This is something that the OSS world needs to keep in mind. When starting a new project, most of us are smart/savvy enough to pick a name that we can register as a domain, but at some point, we need to pony up the dough to register the product name as a trademark ( $100 in the US , every country has its own fee though).

  • dubious_1

    [quote comment="298450"]Sue them for violation of GPL, Copyright infringment (as the sharezaa team have copyright on the program), maybe even fraud (for trying to pass shareza off as their own product).

    If you can get them for GPL violation they have to stop distributing their version until the copyright holders give them permision to do so again.

    Make it a good high profile case.. no doubt the FSF will help in the fight, they may even provide the laywers.[/quote]

    From their FAQ:
    I thought the software was free. Why am I being asked to pay?
    The software is free. You are paying for the online help and support and the online tutorials for the lifetime of the membership.

    This is not a violation of the GPL, and is in fact consistent with common practices in the OSS world. (RedHat for example)

  • ruin

    Damn Church of SubGenius-named company. Slackware should tell them off.

  • Anonymusical

    @ 67

    partially true, partially not , as sharezea open source has credited proof that that name was their trademark BEFORE sharezea.com came in and ‘nicked it’ – they can claim for it.

    The copyright of any IP (intellectual Property) is accredited as soon as it enter the physical world, for instance, if i picked up a mic and went ‘hhmmmHUMMhmhmhm mah hmmmm’ and recorded it, i own the copyright to not only that recording, but the melody aswell (as songwriter), but usually it isnt ‘recognised’ by courts until it enter public domain (as then the courts can see it may of been a stolen idea).

    Sharezea Open Source has been in the public domain for years now, and with google cache and other web history sites being able to prove (along with various physical items inhouse that could) that Sharezea belongs to them they can easilly win it.

  • reality

    dubious_1

    Do they give credit to the original team and provide the source code or link to it for their build of the software?

    If not, it’s GPL violation. Doesn’t matter if they charge for it or not.

    Also, this is the very definition of trademark infringement and equally copyright infringement on the part of the logo graphic(as I assume someone did design it at some point).

  • Bob

    If you have a link to Shareaza’s old site, update it with the new link. The more people that update their old link the more the Shareaza.com site will drop in Google’s rank.

  • hmmm

    Would it be illegal if I suggested that someone should shoot them in the head? If it is, I won’t suggest that.

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  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="298478"]
    From their FAQ:
    I thought the software was free. Why am I being asked to pay?
    The software is free. You are paying for the online help and support and the online tutorials for the lifetime of the membership.

    This is not a violation of the GPL, and is in fact consistent with common practices in the OSS world. (RedHat for example)[/quote]

    It’s a violation if they don’t provide the source code for the software (not just Shareaza, but their modified version of it) on their site, or provide a link to the location where you can get the software. GPL requires you to distribute the source code if you’re distributing a program, anything less is a violation.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="298478"]The software is free. You are paying for the online help and support and the online tutorials for the lifetime of the membership.

    This is not a violation of the GPL, [/quote]

    They are distributing a binary. If that’s compiled from GPL source, they’re obliged to offer you that source code, either for free or for a nominal fee.

    Whether or not they’re charging for support or similar is nothing the GPL is concerned with.

    - Peder

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="298524"]
    They are distributing a binary. If that’s compiled from GPL source, they’re obliged to offer you that source code, either for free or for a nominal fee.

    Whether or not they’re charging for support or similar is nothing the GPL is concerned with.

    - Peder[/quote]
    I may be wrong, but I believe the fee is only applicable in the cases where distribution is being performed on a physical media, that is, they can charge you for the cost of the disk, but not the source code itself.

  • udumbshits

    You are using Firefox aren’t you?

    Firefox 2 or later contains a built-in Phishing Protection feature that warns you of suspected Web forgeries, and offers to take you directly to a search page so you can find the real Web site you were looking for.

    http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/phishing-protection/

  • Steven

    Firefox now gives me a big warning message saying “Suspected Web Forgery”.

    Yippee Firefox!

    Maybe we could convince Pakistan to block shareaza?

  • nOOb

    I’m with the DDos thing .. if only i knew what it means. I hate to google.
    Good luck to you master nerds though.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="298530"]I’m with the DDos thing .. if only i knew what it means. I hate to google.
    Good luck to you master nerds though.[/quote]
    Distributed Denial of Service. Basically a fancy way of saying a whole bunch of people hammering the shit out of their server until it crashes under the load. At it’s simplest it’s as many people as you can get just visiting their website repeatedly.

  • MakeItShareIt

    Everyone can get sareaza source code if they wanto and modyfy it a little ;) (little hint for good programmers)

    Then share it and i can bet a lot of users would use this modyfyied client :D

  • fedup

    Since there seems to be no legal recourse, Perhaps a friendly serial killer can step in.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="298478"]
    This is not a violation of the GPL, and is in fact consistent with common practices in the OSS world. (RedHat for example)[/quote]

    Fuck their weasel words. They are in violation of the GPL, period.

    GPL Section 6:
    You may convey a covered work in object code form under the terms of sections 4 and 5, provided that you also convey the machine-readable Corresponding Source under the terms of this License, in one of these ways:

    ….

    GPL Subsection 6.d[the only subsection applicable to the imposters, since they are not offering Fakeaza through a physical medium or through P2P]: Convey the object code by offering access from a designated place (gratis or for a charge), and offer equivalent access to the Corresponding Source in the same way through the same place at no further charge. You need not require recipients to copy the Corresponding Source along with the object code. If the place to copy the object code is a network server, the Corresponding Source may be on a different server (operated by you or a third party) that supports equivalent copying facilities, provided you maintain clear directions next to the object code saying where to find the Corresponding Source. Regardless of what server hosts the Corresponding Source, you remain obligated to ensure that it is available for as long as needed to satisfy these requirements.

    http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html

    The fake Shareaza is advertised as free software, and is available for download free of charge. Under the above conditions, the GPL states that the imposters must offer the sourcecode for Fakeaza for download free of charge, just like Fakeaza itself. But, OMG… Where IS the sourcecode for Fakeaza?

    Do you see it being offered anywhere on shareaza.com for free? Do you see clear directions pointing to a third-party server where it’s hosted as a free download?

    Do you? No, you don’t.

    That’s a GPL violation. Bitch.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="298526"][quote comment="298524"]
    they’re obliged to offer you that source code, either for free or for a nominal fee.
    - Peder[/quote]
    I may be wrong, but I believe the fee is only applicable in the cases where distribution is being performed on a physical media, that is, they can charge you for the cost of the disk, but not the source code itself.[/quote]

    That’s what I meant by nominal fee.

    Though I think, in theory, they could charge you for their bandwidth, but IANAL.

    - Peder

  • bobo

    i think RedSquirrel had a great idea,

  • Anonymous

    Oh, and as an addendum to my last post, people should contact the GPL Violations Project:

    http://gpl-violations.org/

    at:

    license-violation@gpl-violations.org

    And notify them – in detail(or as they put it, “enable –verbose mode”) – about how the Fakeaza shitsuckers are in violation of the GPL.

  • j

    So, a program used to steal intellectual property has had something stolen from themselves! Someone should give these guys a lesson in IRONY and KARMA.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="298598"]So, a program used to steal intellectual property has had something stolen from themselves! Someone should give these guys a lesson in IRONY and KARMA.[/quote]

    I’d say somebody should give you a lesson on removing the RIAA’s dick from your mouth, but I’m pretty sure it would take an army of paid surgeons.

    Speaking of IRONY and KARMA, I’d love to see the look on the faces of the Fakeaza poseurs when a Cease & Desist lands in their inbox for shitting all over the GPL.

  • Anonymous

    Shareaza.com is down for me. The domain name is being resolved as the loopback address 127.0.0.1. Anyone else seeing this?

  • Anonymous

    j(87), stop wasting our oxygen.

  • jackstraw
  • kevin

    never used shareza before but Ill GLADLY run it for a while just to DDoS those asses into oblivion..

  • Skunk

    http://p2p-freebie.com

    Woah. They’re doing it to Limewire too!

  • Brandano

    It might be possible to reply to the lawsuit with a trademark lawsuit. If they offer another p2p product under the same name, it’s a blatant trademark infringement.

  • piratie

    i wouldn’t have gotten it from anywhere but Sourceforge so this is news to me.

  • Anonymous

    So it seems there’s a lot of angry people.. I wonder if everyone in here who said “DoS” or “DDos” will now be sued as well?

  • foo

    just download the client to /dev/null

  • Anonymous

    This makes me sick! Corporate scumbag’s!! There is a BIG difference in sharing movies with your neighbors like on torrent sites as compared to CHARGING like these imposters. GOD this sucks.

  • Jeff

    Site is back up and running, and is
    no longer being reported by Firefox
    as a web forgery.

    It needs to have the warning on it
    you get from an unsafe Google search:
    “this site may harm your computer”.

    New hosts file entries:
    #[Discordia LTD]
    127.0.0.1 http://www.shareaza.com
    127.0.0.1 http://www.imesh.com
    127.0.0.1 http://www.bearshare.com

  • catweazel

    so perhaps they posted the incriminating post themselves ,
    wouldnt you try if you where them :)

  • anonymous

    someone please attack the bastards…
    just fuck them up and take them down.

  • anonymous

    everyone report them as a forgery in firefox!!

  • Kenny

    [quote comment="298526"][quote comment="298524"]
    They are distributing a binary. If that’s compiled from GPL source, they’re obliged to offer you that source code, either for free or for a nominal fee.

    Whether or not they’re charging for support or similar is nothing the GPL is concerned with.

    - Peder[/quote]
    I may be wrong, but I believe the fee is only applicable in the cases where distribution is being performed on a physical media, that is, they can charge you for the cost of the disk, but not the source code itself.[/quote]

    Well , they can charge for services , that is , for instance ,help with installing Sharezea.

    But to be in order with GPL , they have to do the following at least :

    - make the source code available of their modified version of Sharezea

    - Give credit to the original authors of Sharezea.

    - Clearly state that the software uses GPL , and it’s version ( if the original owner used a version number) , and show that license to the users.

    The main purpose of a license is to ensure that no one can claim ownership of something you created.

    That’s the pure idea of protecting intellectual property.

    And these scammers are clearly in violation of that. There violation is so bad that , even though i despise IP , i clearly see the need for it here .

  • anon

    I know its also illegal to rip-off the brand-name of a GPL licensed project as well as profiting from any GPL derived material.

    Go ahead and DoS their asses, they can’t go to court without having a good counter-suit up their rear-ends.

  • www.shareaza.com is up

    Hi there !
    i was just checking a couple of seconds ago, the site http://www.shareaza.com was still up and runing. i wouldn’t suggest anything illegal, but i hope there servers burn up

    cheers

  • Marco

    Maybe sending a bug report about their software being a fake would do something?

    http://wa.shareazaweb.com/support/sendbug.php?

  • Bob

    Report them to the FBI and to their webhost for fraud. Its that damn simple.

  • Enonnone

    I can’t get there….network timed out. Maybe the people have spoken!!??

  • Quartz

    Forget posting here, get angry and go on a web posting spree, let the folks know these fraudsters are the same company as “spyMesh” and “BarelyShare” and that their crap offerings install spware, these groups of cyber terrorists will only win if you fail to expose them.

    Is it not about time someone made a logo or web graphic that can be used to draw attention to this scam and to make magazine editors and columnists aware of the fraud and who is behind it.

    They Real Shareaza folks are relying on us to carry their message of update and to hand out the genuine download address, lets not let them down.

  • Norm

    [quote comment="298487"]Damn Church of SubGenius-named company. Slackware should tell them off.[/quote]

    Discordianism came before Church of the Sub Genius, not the other way around.

  • Neglacio

    Google, and directly Firefox, stopped filtering Shareaza.com.
    I shouted “WTF OMG BBQ” in that order.

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  • Jeff

    Now I’m not suggesting anything
    illegal here, but there’s a little
    utility by the Lumber Cartel (TINLC -
    anti spammer lingo – Google for the
    name to find out more) called
    Spamfryer. Maybe a few hundred
    thousand visits by multiple people
    running multiple instances of it
    would have the same effects as Red
    Squirrel suggested.

  • Stomfi

    GPLed software can be sold, but is more often not.

    The GPL is about having the right to freely copy, the distributor making the sources available, and if the user makes changes they want to distribute outside their organization, giving those changes back to the community.

    The LGPL is a way of distributing closed source libraries, so you can protect your IP and make money from it.

    Free Open Source Software is another concept entirely and should not be confused with the GPL.

    The Shareaza problem is another case of proprietary evangelism using an organized jihad to overcome the anarchist competition.

  • meoowww

    lol

  • jack

    I still cant believe this crap. I still can’t believe the site is up either.

    J.

  • Mike

    Jeff is a Genius.
    http://www.plaza1.net/SpamFryer.jar
    you all know what to do, nuff said

  • Mike

    BTW, make sure you put in the http:// when you enter the URL, else your just wasting precious CPU clock cycles ;)

  • Anonymous

    Don’t know to much, except to say that Spybot S$D 1.52 is keeping off of the Fakeaza site. Fine by me!! Might be a good idea to lobby any other ‘ GPL ‘ malware/spyware/antivirus product to do the same. Just a thought.

  • Spike Dukakas

    Just warn everyone only to use the real software which ends at such and such version. At the same time start proceedings to sue them for everything they’ve got. You can get lawyers who will work for free and only take a percentage of the settlement. Or the EFF might even handle it for them.

    They shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it.
    They are probably sponsored by the RIAA.

  • Jonny

    If you want to download it every 5 minutes:

    while true;
    do
    wget http://download.shareazaweb.com/ShareazaV4.exe 2>&1 | grep HTTP;
    rm ShareazaV4.exe;
    sleep 300;
    done

  • Denial Mc Service

    If one wanted to make a DDoS, he could just run the following line (it’s all in ONE line) and hope others would do the same… but, please, don’t do it!

    x=0; while true; do x=$(($x + 1)); echo Start $x; wget http://download.shareazaweb.com/ShareazaV4.exe –limit-rate 30k -O – 2>&1 >/dev/null | grep HTTP; echo Done; sleep 30; done

  • Denial Mc Service

    Update… the –no-cache avoids your ISP memorizing the file and sending it to you without downloading it from shareaza.com.

    x=0; while true; do x=$(($x + 1)); echo Start $x; wget http://download.shareazaweb.com/ShareazaV4.exe –no-cache –limit-rate 30k -O – 2>&1 >/dev/null | grep HTTP; echo Done; sleep 30; done

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  • AngelaShields

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  • megatrendsZ

    Hello All
    Im New…

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  • Webwhiteman

    hi
    hi

  • ISeduction

    hi
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  • runs while farting

    Why not not download their fakeza program 10 times or more per day?

    Bandwith costs money doesn’t it? :)

  • ARN

    Well. For years I have kept a constant ping on yahoo.com, so I can monitor general net latency and see when my net burps or IP resets.

    Just changed it to shareaza.com :)

  • BlackDahlia

    [quote comment="297829"][quote comment="297817"]I’d bloody DOS them if I had the time and resources. The stuff these guys are doing is pretty much as illegal as filesharing.[/quote]

    No, it is more illegal. They are making money of pirated files. This is the kind of thing that costs society money.
    Why can’t the RIAA/MPAA go after these bastards?[/quote]
    fuck you loser

  • Melissa Taylor

    I think that it is very important not mention DDOS… BIG BROTHER is watching and waiting to strike…

    Here is a good contribution and update post I discovered on the CMS Made simple forum:
    http://forum.cmsmadesimple.org/index.php?topic=20984.msg102145

  • lol

    I recently heard about all of this mess. I personally never used Shareaza as far as I know, but the name certainly sounds familiar. I’ll take a look at it (from the real site of course.. ) since I’m tired of the Frostwire and Limewire bull I use..

  • fred massoni

    Attacks are only childish behavior. People know which the real Open Source software is, and is not. People who try to pose are posers. Always have been, always will be. Let the people decide. Best thing you can do is remain calm, and help get the word out. Impostors don’t last long under any kind of scrutiny. Caveat Emptor, let the buyer beware! Or in this case the open source sharer!

  • akjopser

    hello , ban me please ,
    im a weird boy, i like to write strange things , thank you and sorry

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  • zipbuggy

    People on the forum are understandably upset that a brand name is being stolen for no other purpose than to ruin, destroy or taunt the original creators business. Why else do you take someones logo, name and trademark?

    That said, the upset members jokingly suggest DoS.. But what kind of Ahole then decides to attack even that? A lawyer. There are some of them that think the law is a game where you can just use it to attack, and then accused the attacked of being the attacker etc.

    But Notice the childish assumption that words where they let out the the true reasoning behind being hypocrites.

    “evidently based on out some misguided belief that artists and others who create music should not be fairly compensated for their efforts”

    The forum members didn’t want to attack them because they believe artists should not be compensated. They attacked because no one likes an impostor or someone who is clearly designing an attack that also pretends they are the attacked.

    They deserve to be put in their place. However, the problem is this. They are somehow connected with the RIAA? If I understood it… That said, what kind of people are the RIAA that like to fine people $220,000 for $20 worth of songs in court? Oh yeah, they are lawyers. Never mind trying to use your lawyer skills to be fair. They just show how bad they are by being worse than the ones they accuse.

  • zipbuggy

    Oh, and I’ll add, notice what really scares the fake one. If they were willing to launch a letter about DoS, then LOL, bingo. That suggestion probably would have worked. Either that, or they just like fighting and being that they are pushy lawyers, maybe that’s what they are doing.

  • zipbuggy

    Another thought came to mind. If the site is 100% legal etc, does that mean they give all the sign up money to the artists? LOL.. of course I know the answer is no. So the next thing I think of is that maybe they set up the site so they can use some of their friends to form lawsuits against the people downloaded. Ok, that really sounds paranoid, but it came to mind. I deleted that piece of junk as fast as I could, hehe.

  • wingscancer

    peer to peer file sharing like that is \crap. bit torrents are the way to go

  • trastuso

    Hi

    G’night

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