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Should Piracy Punishments Scale To The Quality Of The Copy?

In a case involving the administrator of a BitTorrent tracker this week, a judge felt that punishments should reduce if low quality movies were being shared. On the other hand the plaintiffs argued that since their product was being devalued with poor quality reproduction, compensation should actually increase. In a separate case in Argentina, seven pirates just walked because their copies were poor, and the public knew it.

Considering the huge crackdown against illegal camming in recent years it’s clear that the movie industry, rightly or wrongly, perceives this type of piracy as a serious threat. Indeed, they have succeeded in making the activity a criminal offense in many parts of the world.

One might argue that their actions have been pretty successful. Five years ago or more, very high-quality cammed movies were commonplace on the Internet and the release of the best Telesyncs (cammed video with a direct sound source) from Scene groups such as Centropy and maVen were a highly prized and anticipated event. These days, although cams are still reasonably common, very high-quality releases are much less prevalent. Mission accomplished then? Maybe not.

This week the case against the administrator of the EliteBits BitTorrent tracker came to its conclusion, with the judge pondering on an interesting issue.

The judge said that since he could not assess the quality of the movies being offered via EliteBits, he found it difficult to know how much compensation to award the movie companies. The implication was that rightsholders should get less money if the product was low quality – cammed movies for instance – but lawyers for the plaintiffs disagreed. They said that rightholders lose goodwill when films are distributed in poor quality so the compensation should be more.

This raises an interesting argument. There is a school of thought which suggests that when people are presented with a cam copy of movie they will expect it to be poor. However, if they enjoy it, they will invest in a trip to the theater to see it properly. Others won’t even want to spoil their enjoyment by watching these inferior copies and will see the movie in the theater straight off. It’s probably fair to assume that people expect some aspect of a copy to be lower quality that the original.

There can’t have been many people who didn’t appreciate that when the workprint copy of Wolverine leaked out, they were getting an unfinished product. Did the lack of effects ruin the reputation of the movie? Sales seems to suggest not. Would the movie industry have preferred it if a perfect copy had leaked out in this instance rather than a second-rate version? Hardly. Nevertheless, the Wolverine leaker was still hauled over the coals, much more so than those who leak perfect copies. However, if he had lived in Argentina, things might have been different for him.

This week a case was heard in Argentina’s Federal Court. It involved the issue of seven individuals caught selling pirate movies on the streets in 2008. In the first hearing the individuals were found guilty of copyright and trademark offenses but in the latest hearing that decision was overturned – and it all came down to the quality of the product they sold.

The judge decided that it was “impossible to jeopardize the credibility of the legitimate manufacturers” since the buyers of the pirate copies knew full well they were getting an inferior product. One might argue that individuals downloading cammed material from EliteBits also knew that they wouldn’t be getting a good copy, yet rightsholders in that case would certainly have disagreed with the judge’s assertion here.

So, if there is to be any punishment at all for sharing copyright material, should quality be taken into consideration? Should a perfect DVDrip of a movie attract a higher fine because people are less likely to seek out and pay for an original?

Should those sharing low bitrate MP3s be left alone because they providing a low-quality try-before-you-buy service, or should they be heavily punished for ruining the reputation of the artist with a pale imitation of the real thing? As usual, we’d love to hear your thoughts in the comments.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/JuggaloSteWieH Steven Veneralle

    pretty good idea. i mean i know downloading a cam or a WP wont be anywheres near the quality of a DVDrip. i know that when i download it and I know it when i am watching it. think getting a different judgement based upon the quality is grea. why should we get fucked over more just for having it in a not so good quality?
    them saying of we should get more b/c the quality is crap and it makes us look bad. Wrong a majorty of people wont download a cam for the reason, most of th others dont care, they just want it RITENOW

  • http://twitter.com/xRDVx xRDVx

    It is an interesting question indeed. Lower quality on pirated releases we are more pushed towards buying it for the full quality, that is, if whatever we downloaded is good enough for it to deserve being payed.

    • http://techlooser.com Sphinx Khan

      From what i have seen, most people actually first read the comments on a torrent before downloading it. That way they can be sure of what they are downloading.

      I for one want to enjoy my movies and only watch highquality. I would rather wait a while till a blue ray is out before i watch :)

      http://techlooser.com

    • http://techlooser.com Sphinx Khan

      From what i have seen, most people actually first read the comments on a torrent before downloading it. That way they can be sure of what they are downloading.

      I for one want to enjoy my movies and only watch highquality. I would rather wait a while till a blue ray is out before i watch :)

      http://techlooser.com

    • http://techlooser.com Sphinx Khan

      From what i have seen, most people actually first read the comments on a torrent before downloading it. That way they can be sure of what they are downloading.

      I for one want to enjoy my movies and only watch highquality. I would rather wait a while till a blue ray is out before i watch :)

      http://techlooser.com

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  • CLL

    Generally, if I see a low quality cam of a movie, or download a movie that is somehow not complete, that is actually incentive to actually see it in a real theater, or at least rent the DVD (which with my connection, it’s actually quicker to drive down to Blockbuster if I want to see a movie immediately instead of waiting hours for it to download).

    So, honestly, I would not be surprised if low quality cams have actually caused the movie studios to profit more than they would have had there not been a cam available. Unless, of course, the movie was not worth watching in the first place. Then a cam would have caused as many lost sales as a screener, telecine (does anyone even do telecines anymore? I really miss them), or anything else of significant quality.

    • http://www.facebook.com/adam.elter Adam Eltér

      Who watches DVD’s anymore?! Bad quiality, plastic discs, only cons. We need a good ‘Spotify for movies’ here in Europe ASAP!

  • wav3

    Terrible idea. People could start sharing low quality encodes of files in order to escape prosecution. If you’re going to share files, at least share them properly. The industry have a point. It’s insulting to the artists/filmmakers/whatever. Obviously the punishment should not be higher (or exist at all) though.

  • WysiWyg

    If they are truly worried about loosing “good will”, then perhaps they should stop the witch-hunt on their customers?

    It’s always funny to see them make an argument against their own strategy without realizing it. ;-)

  • Momo

    Really, that’s the wrong question to be asking. I’d much rather piracy judgments scale to the severity of the crime than the quality of the copy.

    Meaning, if you downloaded a song, the damages you have to pay are not much greater than the market price of the song, not some huge random number like $25,000 per song like they did to Jammie Thomas.

    More importantly, the question remains if copyright is even needed in the first place. There’s no evidence that that’s the case, except a few RIAA reports which say nobody would ever write a song without it. When we have a law that hands out monopolies on published media that last over a century, it’s rather insane to expect people to respect it, especially in a world with computers and the internet. I say we should be asking ourselves not how to punish people who break this law, but if those punishments are legitimate in the first place.

    • Anonymous

      I can not agree more. Quality is not the issue. If i speed through a red light endangering other people’s life i get a €500 fine. You are a very sick individual if you think that a song is worth the same fine as endangering €25.000,00 / €500,00 = 50 human lives.

  • 1337

    720p BluRay 6GB = 6 Years in prison..

    LAWLLLLLL! :D These motherfu?kers should spend the money on something more useful.. as we know PIRACY can never die.. even if they ‘switch’ off the internet which is physically impossible.. P2P Fo’ Life!

    FUUUUUUUU YA ALL!

  • 1337

    720p BluRay 6GB = 6 Years in prison..

    LAWLLLLLL! :D These motherfu?kers should spend the money on something more useful.. as we know PIRACY can never die.. even if they ‘switch’ off the internet which is physically impossible.. P2P Fo’ Life!

    FUUUUUUUU YA ALL!

  • Anonymous

    These are the kinds of arguments presented when dealing with an industry whose only perceived defense against avant garde technologies is the constant use and exploitation of the legal system.

    I don’t think there should be a punishment for sharing data in a network so long as that data is legal in every other medium, from any other source – the authenticity of the ‘label’ or production team, or publishers has little value to most of us who analyze data and judge source content itself, rather than fall into the hype of the industries presentation of it.

    Selling data on the streets in physical discs is another story, turning a profit for information that I think should remain free and available to all (no matter its quality) is a bit hypocritical when the person selling the copies got it free themselves. Though in most cases it has to be considered that the amount of data transfered or sold by them is really small, the fact that virtually no ‘damages’ are brought upon the industry through sharing in both virtual and physical mediums indicates that punishment for doing so is extremely disproportionate for most all legal cases.

    So should piracy punishments scale to the quality of the copy?

    Neh. ‘Piracy’ punishments shouldn’t exist – or should be examined more critically and with light shed on all relevant information to the case, something which seems to happen rarely. Punishment for sharing data is a direction we do not want to be going in.

  • Shiny Jirachi

    “Should those sharing low bitrate MP3s be left alone because they providing a low-quality try-before-you-buy service, or should they be heavily punished for ruining the reputation of the artist with a pale imitation of the real thing?”

    It’s missing a word:
    …because they “are” providing…

    • Glenndoe

      Because this article is missing a word should the author be held accountable for distributing a low-quality article??

  • Glib

    Their quote seems to suggest that the viewing of these films augments “goodwill”. A crappy copy (for free) reduces goodwill more than a better copy. So, if someone wants to steal something, stealing it in perfect format is the best-case scenario for the industry? Sounds good to me … maybe once a crappy copy is leaked, they should leak their own superior copy to ensure goodwill isn’t damaged.

  • NuffSaid

    The industry is pissed at the cam copies that come out because the public get to deduce if the film is truly crap before they lay out the money in a cinema. I am sick and tired of going into a cinema and thinking ‘Why is this the only place that you get served rubbish for two hours and can’t ask for your money back’.

    It’s a con by them 50% of the time, and pot luck you find a reviewer that isn’t payed of with a backhander, or shares similar tastes.

    To hell with them.

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      Absolutely spot-on.
      A friend persuaded me to goto a movie theatre to watch 2012 and quite a few times throughout the movie both of us just looked at each other at how many of scenes were so poorly done and lacked any credibilty whatsoever we literally just laughed out loud.

      Had I known this in advance we wouldn’t have handed over the cash, and we couldn’t get our cash back either.
      The same applies to all of the so-called “content industry’s” products. Who’s raping who MAFIAA? Your business model is just based on a rip-off with the customer ALWAYS having to take a chance, but has to lose out if your product isn’t satisfactory.

      This aint my idea of good business practice you fuckwit rip-off merchants.

  • Lilbush81

    lilbush81@gmail.com please send me emails regarding this issue.

  • colten

    If I watch a lower quality copy of a movie and I actually liked the movie, I usually go and watch it in theaters to get the best experience. (pocorn and everything.)

  • Anonymous

    Wow, OK that actually makes a LOT of sense when you think about it.

    http://www.complete-privacy.eu.tc

    • We Hate Spam

      Another copy/paste spam reply eh?

      Why don’t you just fsck off and take it elsewhere…..

      • Anonymous

        TF – Can’t you ban his URL/link or something? And all those bit.ly etc links that are used for spamming your comments?

  • http://www.facebook.com/BradOlsonBemidji Bradley Olson

    Also, there are lots of classics that have been released on BetaMax, VHS, LaserDisc, etc. and not on DVD or BluRay and a transfer of these is a real time process and they can turn out acceptable or not acceptable depending on the sources, plus you need the hardware to bypass Macrovision to do so which very few people have and there are people who aren’t aware that this kind of hardware exists.

    • 009

      Like this? http://www.aaroncake.net/circuits/macrovision.asp There is a better circuit out there but im too lazy to find it. i would rather buy one with an S-video port and has compatibility with component video, but make one just because I can :)

  • Gae

    I generally don’t watch anything that has been cammed becuase the quality usually ruins my enjoyment of the movie.

  • Mohsinman99

    Either way, if something is crap, viewing it in higher quality won’t make you like it…….
    I think they should hand out punishments according to IMDB ratings..that would be more interesting…XD

  • Albiefraser

    Let’s go kill Argies!!

  • Anonymous

    I’d say it’s a moot point, since the cost of fighting piracy greatly exceeds the cost of piracy itself, even in cases where the plaintiff wins. The only reason piracy is still being fought at all is big media’s inertia and shortsightedness. Why else would such greedy people throw money away?

    • Gnarledreaper

      When the cost of “piracy” (which is sharing something) is exactly nothing then any method of trying to fight it is greater than the non existent loss.

      • Rowena

        The loss is not non-existent. Sales taxes are evaded, which hurts the States, the Cities, and the Government. High street stores close. Minimum wage store clerk jobs are lost. E-tailers export once-American jobs to India.

        Authors’ income goes down, which means less income taxes are paid.

        • Autonomous

          Fail.

          You are assuming that a download equals a lost sale.

          In most cases it doesn’t. If the content is any good then many people will buy afterwards, and those who download because they can’t afford the high prices are not lost income as they were never going to buy anyway.

          And in the situations where a download does equal a lost sale, it’s very often because the content is not worth paying for.

          Having no way to preview, and no money-back option if the content is sub-par, means that quite a lot of potential customers won’t risk their hard-earned money in case it turns out to be another piece of over-hyped trash.

          Provide quality content, and provide a means to preview it (and not just a trailer which has all the ‘best bits’ – Total Recall springs to mind here) or a money-back option and you may find that sales go up (although if the content doesn’t improve significantly then the number of returned items will be very likely high).

  • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

    “So, if there is to be any punishment at all for sharing copyright material, should quality be taken into consideration?”

    Regardless of quality, no punishment is deserved for simply sharing files for no cash, no profit and no gain. In fact, the freakin’ copywrong owners should be paying us for freely distributing what they’ve “legally stolen” from the artists, actors, authors etc. the REAL people that matter.

    Should a perfect DVDrip of a movie attract a higher fine because people are less likely to seek out and pay for an original?

    No fines are applicable unless the copy is sold by an unauthorised distributor for cash or some other tangible gain.

    Should those sharing low bitrate MP3s be left alone because they providing a low-quality try-before-you-buy service, or should they be heavily punished for ruining the reputation of the artist with a pale imitation of the real thing?

    They should be hung out to dry for wasting everyone’s time and bandwith, Other than that, yes, they should be left alone by the copywrong owner and the courts.

    Why are these questions being asked anyway Andy/enigmax? Are the answers not obvious?

    • Rowena

      If authors, musicians and other copyright owners matter to you, Rob, why are you stealing from them?

      Two wrongs don’t make a right. They simply double the hardship for the person wronged in the first place.

      • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

        There is no theft. Get an education, troll.

  • Gargamel

    Even as a pirate i hate to say it but your pathetically grasping at straws for this arguement.

    Its almost like trying to convince yourself as long as its you didnt steal a GOOD copy it ok. If you feel better just because your watching a cam that looks like someone filmed it through their shoe, then the only person your fooling is yourself.

  • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

    Yes, they should. I think most people who have seen any movies in the theater know that they aren’t supposed to look like youtube quality, so i dont see how it devalues it.

  • MPAAHATER

    I used to download cams in the Kazaa days but as bandwidth became cheaper i got better and better quality.I 500 dvds i would never have bought if i couldn’t have previewed them and a TB of Brips-suck it Hollywood!

  • Glenndoe

    I am a pirate. I know the risk I take every time I download pirated material. Whether it be a cam or a dvdrip, it is still pirated material. Do I agree with the off the wall fines for downloading these materials? No. Do I download cam videos? Sometimes. Do I know the quality is probably not so great? Yes. If I like the movie will I go to the theater and see it, or possibly buy the DVD? Maybe.

    We are pirates. We will not support your corporate ways. We are anonymous. We will prevail.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z4JTWH4ZP6KJHWGFACE3M4AEUQ Getridov Disqus

    I guess Apple are to be lambasted next as “rightholders lose goodwill when music is distributed in poor quality” mp3′s. At last !!

  • 34242424

    Centropy …..ahhh those were the days.

  • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

    IPR is evil.

    We should all be doing our best to boycott companies that try to enforce it.

  • Foff

    I wish the movie companies would release the DVD/BLUray at the same time as the movie in the theater or at least give it a try and see what happens.

    This would end camming instantly as a DVD rip would be available almost instantly. More importantly if the movie was any good the industry would know if pirating really made a difference.

    I know with Avatar it made no difference, There was a screener available after about a week dvd quality. I went to the movie to check out the 3d effects then went to a 2d to compare. (In my opinion the 3d did not add much) in between I also watched the screener. The point is the industry made money twice off of me even though there was a dvd quality copy available on the internet.

    I only see about 1 movie a year if that in the theater because most are not worthy of a big screen experience. I rarely buy DVD’s (Do not have a blu ray player yet) as I am not a collector and the price is way to high. Who in their right mind would buy the hardback book if they had already read the paperback?

    At one time repeat views of movies were more prevalent because there was much less material. Now with so much available between tv, the theater discs and the internet after one or two views it will never be seen again.

    That even goes for things like star wars even 3d versions will not entice me watch those six stupid movies again.

  • Jon7272

    these guys were selling crap copies different altogether to sharing for nothing those who make money from piracy should be fined imo

  • Jon7272

    these guys were selling crap copies different altogether to sharing for nothing those who make money from piracy should be fined imo

  • h33t

    the Judge appears to be rightly going to the heart of the counterfeiting issue and in the process highlighting an even older issue concerning copying viz when is a copy not a copy and when is it a derived work? consideration of derived works is different from that of copies and the issue under consideration is always the qualities and/or characteristics of the copy. in the early days of filesharing there was the argument that a digital cam of a theatre movie did not resemble the original product not in the experience of the viewer and not in the physical material aspects that the digital copy was bits and bytes.

    this argument is not as pedantic as it first appears. consider the difference between a movie theatre that does not pay its royalties to the distributor and the pirate selling a cammed SVCD on the street. in the first case where the pirate movie theatre is replicating a copy of the movie-going experience a visitor could not reasonably be expected to tell the difference between a bone fide theatre who pays royalties and the pirate operation. the movie going experience is identical for the visitor. in this example the CD CAM is a poor copy of the movie-going experience. to generalise the argument to extreme begs the question at which point the copyright holder relinquishes their rights over the content, perhaps when a school puts on a student play derived from the story of in the movie or when children act out the movie in the playground?

    again this agrument is also not as pedantic as it appears. in the beginning of time there must have been a copyright argument for all innovations but over time the content of the new idea has been absorbed into the common property of society eg. pencils, cars, knives, fire, the wheel, electricity, flight, the list is endless but highlights natural limitations where restrictive practices become nonsense because they are unenforceable. many of us believe not-for-profit-filesharing is also a natural right for the same reasons that it is simply social sharing and restrictive practices are nonsense and unenforceable

    in the article the case is a CAM of content in the context of a movie-going experience that ultimately one would expect to see released in an official DVD box-set. even the derived official DVD product could never be held in comparision with the CAM on quality grounds and it is this clear honest appraisal by the court that the MAFIAA will fear because when all is said and done you are breaking copyright law when you sing Happy Birthday to your grandma and if it ever came to pass that you would hum the theme to Wolverine to your daughter at bedtime then the MAFIAA want you to pay for that privilege too

  • h33t

    the Judge appears to be rightly going to the heart of the counterfeiting issue and in the process highlighting an even older issue concerning copying viz when is a copy not a copy and when is it a derived work? consideration of derived works is different from that of copies and the issue under consideration is always the qualities and/or characteristics of the copy. in the early days of filesharing there was the argument that a digital cam of a theatre movie did not resemble the original product not in the experience of the viewer and not in the physical material aspects that the digital copy was bits and bytes.

    this argument is not as pedantic as it first appears. consider the difference between a movie theatre that does not pay its royalties to the distributor and the pirate selling a cammed SVCD on the street. in the first case where the pirate movie theatre is replicating a copy of the movie-going experience a visitor could not reasonably be expected to tell the difference between a bone fide theatre who pays royalties and the pirate operation. the movie going experience is identical for the visitor. in this example the CD CAM is a poor copy of the movie-going experience. to generalise the argument to extreme begs the question at which point the copyright holder relinquishes their rights over the content, perhaps when a school puts on a student play derived from the story of in the movie or when children act out the movie in the playground?

    again this agrument is also not as pedantic as it appears. in the beginning of time there must have been a copyright argument for all innovations but over time the content of the new idea has been absorbed into the common property of society eg. pencils, cars, knives, fire, the wheel, electricity, flight, the list is endless but highlights natural limitations where restrictive practices become nonsense because they are unenforceable. many of us believe not-for-profit-filesharing is also a natural right for the same reasons that it is simply social sharing and restrictive practices are nonsense and unenforceable

    in the article the case is a CAM of content in the context of a movie-going experience that ultimately one would expect to see released in an official DVD box-set. even the derived official DVD product could never be held in comparision with the CAM on quality grounds and it is this clear honest appraisal by the court that the MAFIAA will fear because when all is said and done you are breaking copyright law when you sing Happy Birthday to your grandma and if it ever came to pass that you would hum the theme to Wolverine to your daughter at bedtime then the MAFIAA want you to pay for that privilege too

  • Julia

    If fines scaled to the quality of copies, then everyone would be charged $1.00 per copy:)
    What a great idea!

  • Anonymous

    “Indeed, they have succeeded in making the activity a criminal offense in many parts of the world.”

    This caused me and many others to avoid the movie theater.

    • Tom_tje3000

      so you attend a film to CAM it?

  • Levelestar

    all that it is quibbling and to beat about the bush

  • Sean

    I would much rather have a proper Blueray rip even if the size is 12 Gigg’s or more, when only a Telesync is available i will wait for the Blueray rip and if the film is good enough i will then go and buy the Blueray! all this fucking want want want money for the lowest quality just shows me how our world has turned into a greedy bunch of cunts!
    Go buy yourself a retractable baton, stick it where the sun is not able to shine and play on the A9 Autobahn between Munich and Berlin for at least 6 hours because you really need it!

  • AnarchyNow

    mp3, divx = bad quality (and for mp3 very very bad quality)
    Anyway, DVD/BRD = bad quality too, rofl… I still remember the disappointment with my 1st dvd player…

  • ndmushroom

    I’m very curious as to the arguments used by the Industry lawyers to justify their claim for tougher penalties on bad-quality releases. I think the word “devaluation” was mentioned somewhere. Would it then be fair to assume that the industry’s interests lie in someone uploading a better quality product? That would add value to their “devalued product”, hence some compensation might be in order. :-)

    • ndmushroom

      In fact it has just occured to me that this could be used in the defense of DVDrip uploaders, since they’d only be trying to “fix the damage” done to the Industry by a CAM or TS release, which always precedes the DVDRip one. The industry lawyers themselves have argued that the damage was already done.

  • Ninja

    Srsly? There should be no punishment for SHARING in the first place. The Argentinean case was lame. They should be fined and possibly jailed for selling physical stuff. Theya re making DIRECT money out of it. Even if you consider bt trackers and indexes operators, they get money for the SERVICE they provide and it’s even indirect money (via ads). If MAFIAA hosted such services they could get money for it too (hint MAFIAA, hint).

    I couldn’t care less about the quality when I’m trying something. I just get quality stuff when I wanna keep and I can’t buy for whatever the reason (lack of availability or lack of money).

  • Anonymous

    I don’t go to theaters to watch new movies. I would far rather watch a cam with not so great sound with a bowl of fresh microwave popcorn and bottle of generic pop than sit in some theater munching on stale popcorn with a watered down name brand pop that costs ten times more than it should. When people say they go “for the theater expereience” I quit often wonder what experience they may be referring to. Is it the poorly prepared theater food? is it the pop covered sticky theater floor? is it the uncomfortable theater seating? Is it the sound of people eating for half the movie? I really see no reason to go to the theater when everything I need is right here at home and fifty times better. I watch downloaded movies because I can’t stand for the thater ripoff crap and if the movie sucks, I don’t lose out.

  • wildfire

    why don’t they come up with thier own down loading system and charge say three to five dollars for a good quailty video. not only would they make several million more dollars they wouldn’t have a poor copy out. i refuse to go to the threaters and pay what they want for a family of four to go their as it has gotten to high just like directtv and i just dumped them. this is like rock and roll you aren’t gonna be able to stop this as the systems get more and more advance. they have been saying this for years and they more mony last year then they ever have. oh yea my ip adress is never out thier as i encrypt to and from my seedbox and nevr do i upload off my system anymore. keep cutting your nose off to spite your face you bunch of dummies.

  • J.

    I like the precedent this is setting. I think it really makes sense. If the MPAA released a CAM, TS, R5 and DVD version of each movie, I would expect pricing to follow pretty well – TS & R5 being fairly close in price, considerably higer than the CAM and considerably lower than the DVD quality. I know if I pick up the Cam version, I’m most likely only going to get half the screen in semi-blury focus, half way through some guy a few rows down will block some of the action as he tries to get out of the center of the isle to use the restroom & get more popcorn, etc… And because I’m passing out such poor copy, I don’t think I should be fined as much as if I were possibly sharing a non-compressed 50GB BluRay rip of the same movie.

    Although, at the same time, I can see the mindset of the movie studios. In their eyes, any pirated copy, regardless of quality, represents a lost sale. To them, if I download a copy of it, I’m not going to see it in theaters & I’m not going to buy it when it comes out on DVD. So I can also understand why they believe quality shouldn’t matter, and why they try to get millions per movie or MP3 or whatever I happen to be caught sharing.

    My only concern, as a few have mentioned already, is that the scene will become uber-saturated with low quality crap, just so, if they get caught the fine will be lower. Which I don’t think will help much. I believe it was Gizmodo (or one of her sister sites) that I read an article by an author/poet. He was actually thankful for people pirating his work. He said at first, he was opposed to people copying his work without his permission. But after awhile, he started to notice a trend. Somewhere (Russia maybe) he hadn’t been selling to well… Until some of the pirates had translated his work into Russian. A little after his work was being pirated in Russian, he noticed sales of his works had started to take off in those areas. I think we noticed something similar here in the states with the movie… One of the grossing movies of 2010 also happened to be one of the most pirated movies (Avatar if your interested). I know coloration doesn’t prove causation, but its worth looking into. The MPAA maybe forced to reconsider their “Every download is a lost sale” mantra…

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