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SOPA Will Mean The End of Reddit, Says General Manager

Last week the House Judiciary Committee discussed the “Stop Online Piracy Act” (SOPA). After an abrupt end of the markup session on Friday, a new hearing date was set for this week. Meanwhile, opposition to the controversial bill is increasing and yesterday the General Manager of the largest online community Reddit said that the bill would “almost certainly mean the end” of the popular site.

sopaThis coming Wednesday the House Judiciary Committee will continue discussing SOPA to decide whether the bill should move forward to the full House. Until then, lobbying groups for and against the bill continue with their efforts to influence the votes of committee members.

Increasingly, many tech companies and websites are supporting the opposition’s camp. One of the websites that has backed anti-SOPA efforts from the start is the social news community Reddit, and yesterday the site’s General Manager Erik Martin said he fears Reddit may cease to exist if the bill passes.

“If SOPA passes in anything like its current form, it would almost certainly mean the end of Reddit. It may not happen overnight, but we have a very small staff (~11, mostly engineers), and even dealing with DMCA stuff is a big burden for us,” Martin writes in a comment under his username “hueypriest.”

“SOPA would make running Reddit near impossible. And we have access to great lawyers through our parent company. I can’t imagine how smaller sites without those kind of resources could even attempt a go at it if SOPA passes.”

One of the problems for Reddit is that the site deals with millions of users and thousands of sub-communities, many of which link to copyrighted material. This content can range from photographers’ copyrighted images, copyrighted clips on YouTube, through to copyrighted movies hosted on a third-party site.

Right now Reddit is protected by the DMCA’s safe harbor provision which only requires Reddit to take down content if copyright holders ask them to, but SOPA can change this liability when a site is deemed to “facilitate copyright infringement.”

redditBecause the definitions and terminology in the bill are so vague, passing SOPA in its current form poses a threat to all user-generated sites online, and many other websites too.

One of the users on Reddit rightfully commented that SOPA would mainly target foreign rogue sites, which would mean that Reddit isn’t at risk. However, Reddit’s general manager disagrees with this view arguing that the bill’s implications are much broader.

“You are correct that this is the stated goal of the bill, which has been clarified under the manager’s amendment. However, the analysis from experts in press and various experts we have consulted independently is that there is way too much room for US sites like Reddit to be targeted,” Martin writes.

“It doesn’t matter what they say the bill is for, the language is far too vague and far too easy for various parties to use it beyond the stated goals. Given our experience with DMCA, it’s a safe assumption that various rights holders will use SOPA in such a way that US companies like reddit are impacted.”

Indeed, SOPA also has a direct effect on US sites as they can become liable for linking to so-called rogue websites. Unless the definitions are made more clear virtually every site on the Internet can become a target, for example by linking to The Pirate Bay in a news article.

Opponents of SOPA argue that these and other issues are not worth risking, especially when it’s still unclear what impact online piracy really has on the entertainment industries. A better way to tackle the piracy problem could be to focus on the availability of affordable on-demand services. Netflix and Spotify have shown that people are often willing to pay for entertainment if they get the chance.

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  • Bakapinkuu

    Not to disparage its size or importance, but is Reddit really “the largest online community”?

    • Reddit

      Yes.

      • Digg

        You wish…oh wait

        • 4Chan

          Forgot about 4chan?

        • Facebook

          Simmer down children.

        • Geocities

          I’ll be back!

        • Myspace

          No love?

        • Google+

          what is this I dont even

        • Friendster

          STFU

        • Usenet

          get fucked

        • IRC

          All your communities are belong to us.

        • guest

          4chan is hardly a community. More of a congregation of lurkers.

      • Guest

        Yes, without a doubt. This is well known.

        • Irri

          It is known.

        • Zhiqui

          It is known.

        • Selophane43

          does FTFY and TL;DR work here?

        • Jumpjumpdie

          Blood of my blood.

        • Elizabeth Bland

          What is reddit Ive never heard of it

      • Facebook

        You wish, son…

        • Lulzcannon

          Facebook isn’t a community. It’s a plague.

        • Gooey

          Looking for my downvote button, but it appears there is none.

      • Hamwallet

        This should be the top comment

        • Derp

          Why are you a wallet made of ham?

        • Beefmoneybelt

          @Derp

          Because a baconpurse would just be silly.

      • The_Real_Cats_Eye

        It is known.

        • Zig

          Is it known?

      • twitter

        no…I am

      • Funnyjunk

        Nuh Uh! We’re the biggest community! No one forgot about us completely! That never happened. Now stand the fuck back, I’m gonna take half of your stuff.

      • http://blogbizbuzz.com Joan-BlogBizBuzz

        I really don’t think size really matters, but freedom of rights. Yup dubious characters are everywhere even on the net, does this mean everyone must be “policed”?

    • Ur_Mom

      Without a doubt it is.

      • Ur_Dad

        Your mom does not think so.

    • ProbablyHittingOnYou

      How dare you disparage our size and importance?

      • Not_really_PHOY,

        , are you?

    • Teejones1766

      Who cares?

    • p M

      These assholes are insane: http://goo.gl/YcBpI

    • Terry Hillman

      yes, lol I’ve never been on a site that almost every popular/hot topic post has at least 1,000 comments if not over 3,000.

    • http://twitter.com/bmkiii Bobby M Kelly III

      most certainly

    • 9gag

      nobody wants to shut me down :(

      • Gae

        Fuck 9gag

    • Guest

      Don’t feel bad. I never even heard of Reddit until now. Is it like facebook & twitter?

      • Zig

        No it isn’t

      • Hffyu

        Pretty much yeah. Same people, same stolen jokes. Wannabe 4chan.

        • Guest

          Lol. Back in the day they used to claim that everything originated from Something Awful, it seems to be 4chan now. 4chan isn’t the source of everything on the internet

  • TelezarZ

    “Hong Kong, what an awesome place to do business..” Kim Dotcom
    Reddit should invest money and move there…

    • Anonymous

      Yes Hong Kong is a great place for business. Under the terms or the British hand back then China cannot impose direct control over Hong Kong for the remainder of the agreed 20 years.

      So Hong Kong is its own market and they love business.

      I have been to Hong Kong five times myself where it is an impressive city and a major hub into Asia.

      • Anonymous

        Officially its 50 years from till year 2047.

        • Paul Duncan

          ?????

        • Anonymous

          I fixed it. Yes a nice long time to teach China that a hands off approach is best for business and HK profit.

          Hong Kong the one place they can demolish a tower block only 2 years old to build an even bigger tower block in its place.

      • readyforjail

        but the funny smelling occupy kids told me that business is bad and we should all grow our own food and make our own clothing? Should I do away with my iphone and laptop and start wearing recycled plastic grocery bags and communicating with loud bird calls?

        • Danny

          Yes do away with your iPhone, but I wouldn’t bother with the others as clothes, food, and a laptop are useful.

    • John

      Ireland is the best place to set up HQ… low corporate taxes and well educated individuals. Why else is Google’s & Facebook’s HQ set up there? Among many other big net names.

      • guest806

        They may have a regional HQ there but both companies have their world HQ’s in California. Google is HQ’d in Mountain View and Facebook is HQ’d in Palo Alto.

      • Tim Cinel

        Ireland is attractive mainly for tax optimisation purposes.
        Search “double irish” for more information.

      • Danny

        The people in ireland are far from educated. It is all tax reasons!

  • ZiggySig

    I wonder how many businesses would be ready to move out of the US, assuming, that they’re ready to lose US market in order to survive, and able find a safe harbour in other regions, like EU/China?

    I’m not holding my hopes up.

    • Chronoss2008

      you mean after or before the 16 trillion dollars is FORCED to get paid back and NONE has any money to spend thus killing said market totaly …way to go 1 % USA’ers

      • http://www.facebook.com/billyup Jesse Jones

        huh? Which $16tril? Just curious.

        • Ur_Mom

          You are in debt, genius. Forgot?

        • Ven

          @Ur_Mom

          Our debt is misleading, because it is debt based on our currency. When the SHTF we can inflate our dollar and pay those debts off with it. It makes us able to essentially scratch the debt whenever we get into a tight economical spot.

        • Nanabanana

          @Ven

          Silly you, if you inflate the dollar your debt inflates too. Is not as simple as increase the value of the currency, unless that together with that you can inflate your own gold assets together with I totally doubt it’d be doable.

          Roman Empire all over again, I guess.

        • Ven

          @Nanabanana

          The USD is the current global currency, so we can inflate the dollar through our debt in some cases.

      • Resin

        Well, that won’t happen soon. The only one who could easily call a large recall of the debt is China, and they can’t afford to do it. Calling in our debt would result in massive trade sanctions, which would greatly affect the lower-class part of their population, the ones who rely on the factories that supply us with our goods. Many of these citizens were already hit hard by the collapse of the SOEs in the first major post-Mao reform period; removing their main form of income for a second time would ignite already existing tensions. To make this short, they risk inciting the protest movements that they’ve worked hard to suppress. They can’t do that on a whim, and they certainly can’t do that because a few companies want to migrate to Hong Kong. It’s not worth it.

  • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

    Bah, don’t let a few thousand small companies and even more thousands of jobs bother you. MAFIAA will have plenty of jobs to offer for those that get nailed by SOPA. You have to think of the artists! And the children!
    /sarcasm

    • Anonymous

      aka, none – except for those fortunate to already have ones.

      -Drag0nflamez.

  • Anonymous

    Gotta kinda wonder who comes up with all that stuff. Pretty funny stuff dude. Very cool indeed. http://www.Total-Privacy dot US

    • Anonymous

      Go away you filthy spammer! Nobody likes you!

  • Anonymous

    Let us keep in mind that they aim to get SOPA into law on Wednesday due to the pending Xmas holiday where many politicians have already returned home and simply won’t be there to vote.

    The goal of the opposition should be to enforce ranks so insist that your opposing representative is there on Wednesday and it would be a social betrayed and Internet betrayal if they are not. No excuses. Use the whip.

    What to do then is to overload SOPA with possible amendments where each one of these needs to be debated (and usually always rejected) so that SOPA exceeds the available time slot so it is then only passed to the vote next year when everyone is there.

    Then they can vote it to Hell where it belongs.

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  • Random

    We have been at civil war for a long time now. This war is not fought with guns or knifes. It is fought with words on paper and doctrine. This war does not shed blood. It sheds freedoms and liberality’s. A new dark age is upon us and we have no one to blame but ours self’s.

    “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.” – John F. Kennedy

    • http://www.facebook.com/billyup Jesse Jones

      “Knives” “Liberties” “Selves”

    • Ven

      I beg to differ. The war of paper and doctrine was lost decades ago in the United States. Our two party system is corrupt on both sides, and the sheeple won’t wake up and vote for real change. But you are right, we have nobody but ourselves to blame.

      I mean, can you find even a 1% of our population that would trade 40-hour work weeks, fast food, Snuggies, and Survivor for their freedom to work 16-hour days being self-sufficient?

      No.

      • Fred Fnord

        Uhh… so you’re asking if I would trade a 40-hour work week for a 112-hour work week?

        Nnnnnnno, I don’t think so. Got any more puzzlers?

        • Tesla

          Genius, its all about – would you be into making an effort to pay off the debt.
          The answer we already knew was of course no.
          The balloon bursting is inevitable.
          Hong Kong residents-taxpayers will, hell ARE your landlords
          Obama is a rent a pres.
          read dude, your dollar is worthless and no amount of inflation could fix that because that is what caused it.
          I love the USA, but you are apparently not to clear on whats what.

        • Ven

          Actually Fred, it’s all about an America free of big business. Farming is quite hard, and includes very long days, but is self-sufficiency at it’s finest.

          We have traded little bits of freedom in the name of convenience for so long that most Americans don’t realize how hard it is to be free.

      • Danny

        Well done Ven, stupid question.

  • stosd1

    I find it interesting that these idiots in Congress who are obviously paid off by big business in an effort to crush small competition and small businesses across the web; are using their time and our tax dollars to push this through when already a million people have signed the petition to stop this. What happened to congress for the people instead of for the corporations like the MPAA and the RIAA?!?!? Why are they so focused on this which will destroy the internet, free speech and jobs, when they should be focused on creating jobs for us. Vote anyone who tries to pass this bill out of office!

    • Anonymous

      If your 1,000,000 number is true, and each voice counts as (several) 1,000 people, then we have more opposition than we have people. :P

      • Mistiry

        In America, corporations are also considered “people”…

    • Bob D

      I feel like people either choose, or fail to realize that the representatives are not corrupt, but are acting because they believe it to be the right way. They are receiving funding BECAUSE these corporations support their views, not TO support their views. These representatives we have now don’t understand how the internet functions. They are ~50-65 years old, the internet boom was about 10 (maybe 15) years ago. So these people were 40-55 years old when the internet hit, many of them did not take the time to learn about it and embrace it for its benefits. Now we have them forming a bill because they realize that people are stealing. They do not know what actually is happening for this to function but they are trying to get justice for American companies.

      I have seen so many posts saying how these politicians are corrupt or evil, I do not believe this. I believe this bill comes from ignorance, not corruption. By all means they are very wrong in making this bill, it will do far more harm than good. I do not think you should be calling your representatives evil, but instead try to explain to them through their misguided opinion of the internet.

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  • Anonymous

    “Linking to the pirate bay in a news article”? What about in a… search engine? :)

    • http://hollywoodite.com Hollywoodite

      That would be where the handy vagueness of the language comes into play. Making copyright material available in any way could cost your domain. Direct or indirect, I think.

  • Anonymous

    I will sum up SOPA for the newbies.

    Already DMCA law has armed them with virtual cruise missiles. An example is seen in how UMG took this Mega Song offline but of course most victims do not have the lawyers or funds to fight back.

    This is also not UMG’s first YouTube related court case. We may recall that back in 2007 they took off-line a video uploaded by Stephanie Lenz simply because her 13-month old son was dancing to Prince’s song “Lets Go Crazy” that was simply playing in the background. She took them to court and in court UMG’s lawyers said they did not have to consider “fair use” before taking a video offline. The Judge disagreed with them and this video is now back online.

    Google says that 67% of all take-down requests target a rival business and 37% of take-down requests were false. Considering that hundreds of thousands of DMCA take-down requests go around then that is sure a vast volume of false cases with innocent people being harmed,

    SOPA if it passes will arm them with virtual NUCLEAR BOMBS.

    When that WAR starts you will see large parts of the Internet get vaporized before your eyes. Innocent or guilty will make little difference.

    These companies would be delisted from search engine, their payment providers like PayPal and Visa would shut them off, ISPs would DNS block access to your website, and advertisers and other companies would be banned dealing with you.

    Keep in mind that 67% would target a business rival just like they do now and 37% is a shit load of collateral damage. They would of course start with the small sites first before working up.

    • Lordhoff31

      what effect would this have outside of the US though?

      • Anonymous

        It is mainly aimed at sites outside the US.

        Well how many of those overseas operations make use of American companies like PayPal, Visa and Mastercard? Even the US trying to shut down Wikileaks shows how effective cutting their payment providers proved.

        DNS blocks would be US only for now but that idea would spread.

        Then as to website’s being delisted then since Google’s UK service blocks a French site due to a French court order that only applies in France then they would certainly take down SOPA targets from the entire World. That would then be a good point to stop using Google.

        Beyond that then European and other businesses would lose access to the US market when the Great Firewall of the United States rises.

        • Lordhoff31

          hmm been reading up on SOPA now. Surely all it will achieve is the US companies being alienated from the internet and the future. Stupid Americans.

        • Anonymous

          Well you have already done that in other laws.

          Many European businesses now do not want US hosting including cloud services due to the US Government spying on their data.

        • TelezarZ

          But Wikileaks’s main source of revenu was donations by Paypal.
          For example , ThePirateBay.org has ads from an Israel based company on its website. They directly send the money to offshore account located in tax haven where they keep their client’s informations in secret vaults.
          The worse that can happend to The Pirate Bay, is to got their domain name .org seized, but since we all know the guys who are running the site for years, they will just change it.
          Sooooo, I don’t think it will affect that much on well implented foreign websites.
          SOPA will built a firewall around US’s internet users so, the foreign website will just loose US audience, and Tech companies of US will just move offshore and the future investors as well.
          SOPA will turn foreign admins into terrorist or copyright dealers like Viktor Bout did with weapons all accross the globe.

        • Anonymous

          Yes and this is why Anonymous attacked PayPal, Visa and others for cutting off support for them. Wikileaks now say this…

          WikiLeaks is under attack by the big financial services companies , but there are still ways you can beat them.

          As a result of exposing U.S. embassies from around the world, five major US financial institutions, VISA, MasterCard, PayPal, Western Union and the Bank of America, have tried to economically strangle WikiLeaks The attack has blocked over 95% of our donations, costing tens of millions of dollars in lost revenue. The attack is entirely political. In fact, in the only formal review to occur, the US Treasury found that there were no lawful grounds to add WikiLeaks to financial blockade .

          Your donations are vital to pay for our fight against this and other kinds of censorship, for Wikileaks’ projects, staff, servers and protective infrastructure. We are entirely supported by the general public.

      • Tesla

        If the rest of the world is blocked to you or removed from the net due to litigation, you will actually have to buy a newspaper to see whats going on.
        Or maybe..hades forbid me from saying this out loud
        Visit a Library or News Stand, or heh visit a record store
        can u say dial me off-hook??

    • http://twitter.com/MorsvirSyphin Matthew Shea

      Do you have a source for your statistics? I’d love to use them in some arguments, but I can’t just say “A guy on TF said….”

      Thanks in advance!

  • Lordhoff31

    i’m not really to sure about the long term effects SOPA act will have, but giving anyone the power to remove things from the internet they don’t like is surely an act pure stupidity.

    • http://amygrindhouse.com/ Amy Grindhouse

      Indeed. Moreover, it’s written by people who don’t understand the Internet (and who ignore the best advice of people who do understand it).

  • Anonymous

    SOPA could apply to Reddit because Reddit would fall under a “search engine.” Under the broad definition of a search engine, Reddit would have to monitor posts to make sure certain links did not appear.

    • http://www.facebook.com/billyup Jesse Jones

      Explain better please. Since reddit is not a search engine, it is a link agrigator(spelling :/ ) with nothing but user submitted posts. If you are right I want to know why. I just can’t see how you think that is so.

      • Ven

        Consider this: Can you define in a generalized way what Reddit does as a site without having that definition also apply to TPB? How about a cyber locker or streaming links site?

        Right now Reddit receives DMCA notices and acts upon them in such a way that, if they were taken to court by a copyright holder, they could show they comply with takedown requests and therefore have safe harbor under DMCA. This changes under SOPA: Reddit would instead be taken offline until they paid for a court case to determine that they did function lawfully.

        Now I don’t think SOPA is going to beat down Reddit: as has been said, it is an enormous community with resources to step around this. The real concerns are towards the open source community (which has no revenue to fight legal battles with), the little guys who are trying to step into markets, and the big corporations who only need a legal team to flex monopolistic force over competition using SOPA.

        Read the Wiki, it’s pretty in-depth:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act

      • Ven

        Here is the exact definition of a Search Engine according to SOPA:

        “(16) INTERNET SEARCH ENGINE- The term `Internet search engine’ means a service made available via the Internet that searches, crawls, categorizes, or indexes information or Web sites available elsewhere on the Internet and on the basis of a user query or selection that consists of terms, concepts, categories, questions, or other data returns to the user a means, such as a hyperlinked list of Uniform Resource Locators, of locating, viewing, or downloading such information or data available on the Internet relating to such query or selection.”

        Reddit falls under that. It is a search engine supported by user posts, but a search engine nonetheless. I search for Football, I get Football related posts – boom, it’s a search engine.

        • Anonymous

          I think the amended version of the bill is possibly broader: The term “Internet search engine” – (a) means a service made available via the Internet whose primary function is gathering and reporting, in response to a user query, index information or Web sites available elsewhere….”

  • Nick

    SOPA may be terrible, but at least without Reddit I might become productive :P

    • dsfsdfsdf

      Yeah don’t bother getting your news from the internet, go ahead and do what every one else does. Go exerciser, get drunk, go to school etc etc. You know the sheeple way of life.

      • Ven

        Don’t forget to vote for Clinton because you don’t want Dole, or vote for Bush because you don’t want Gore, or vote for Obama because you don’t want McCain… All of those have worked out great for us.

        • Bread

          I like being force fed false choices every 4 years.

  • Anonymous

    If SOPA & PIPA pass it will only open a door that never should of been opened and that is the beginning of the end for all of us who do not want to ever see any form of Censorship.
    Just like the Patriot Act created for Terrorism but also now used in domestic Crimes so will they add on a little at a time till it is in fact used not in the form of copyright blah blah.
    Those who support this in Washington are a bunch of Benedict Arno0lds.I am hoping they will get what is coming to them in 2012.
    I feel no sympathy for these Politicians nor will I ever allow MPAA or RIAA to ever see a penny out of my Wallet.

    • Paperbagblues

      the door has already been opened. i can’t believe so many people care more about SOPA than Obama just signing our rights away.

      • http://www.facebook.com/billyup Jesse Jones

        ” i can’t believe so many people care more about SOPA than Obama just signing our rights away.”

        You shouldn’t believe that, because people don’t care more about SOPA. The same people that hate SOPA hate NDAA. And stop laying ALL of the blame on Obama. He didn’t write the damn thing, he just let it happen. I’m not saying that is any better, but it is different.

        • Stuff of dreams

          Yes. Don’t blame Obama. He was forced to sign it into law.

        • Bleeding Kansas

          Don’t blame Obama. He only requested the language in the bill that gives the military the power to indefinitely detain American citizens without due process.

        • Snoozed

          @And stop laying ALL of the blame on Obama. He didn’t write the damn thing, he just let it happen. I’m not saying that is any better, but it is different.

          I cannot believe people like you still exist. I thought people were beginning to wake up but I guess not. STOP PROTECTING A DAMN PARTY OR STUPID POLITICAL IDEOLOGY AND START HOLDING INDIVIDUALS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS!

          WAKE UP!

  • Anonymous

    as if the MPAA, RIAA or any other entertainment industry or, indeed, the US government is interested in which companies go to the wall. as long as the entertainment industries get what they want and the proponents of SOPA/PIPA and the Online Streaming Bill can notch up a win by getting their way, nothing else matters.

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  • http://breki.se Breki Tomasson

    Here’s an idea. Why not just move to reddit.se or reddit.is or reddit.no or reddit.dk or anything else, really.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hopeyoufsckingdie Hope You Die

      Why do you think that would make any difference at all?

    • http://www.facebook.com/billyup Jesse Jones

      We in the US would still not be able to access it. Meaning the bulk of their users would disappear.

    • Pelouze

      They could.

      But if they receive funding through payment systems like Visa, MC, etc (which the large majority of use) what difference does it make ?

      Piracy only exists at today’s levels because costs can be offset by memberships and other revenue streams. Take those payment gateways away and you’ll have a shitty pirate site, hosted in Indonesia, getting smacked hard for bandwidth but, no money to offset it.

      Which is how it should be.

      • Ven

        I’m of the opinion that SOPA will not only move a great deal of U.S. sites overseas, but also give opportunity for new payment systems that are not interested in playing ball with the United States.

        • Pelouze

          Its possible.

        • Danny

          @Peloser

          It will happen, the US really are just signing their livelihoods away.
          This will not stop file sharing one bit, it wont even slow it down! Tell your MAFFIA bosses that the only way to combat this is to compete with it with services people want to use.

          I use several private trackers that are free that don’t accept donations and don’t have Ads. How are you going to shut these down if you A. don’t know they exist, and B. can’t cut them off in any way?

        • Pelouze

          @ Tranny

          I don’t have bosses – My company produces its own materials. As for the rest, we’ll just have to wait and see.

      • Anonymous

        Might this be described as wishful thinking? You seem to think the “little people”
        can’t innovate, adapt, run circles around corruptable beaurocracies. You need to ask yourself five times why it is that they repealed prohibition. Suggestion, In the end what they brought forth with their repression were symptoms worse than the disease.

        • Tesla

          Al Capone was a necessary evil
          He and those like him changed the U.S.
          And there are many more just like him.

          I agree, by the way

        • Pelouze

          It might be wishful thinking.

          But as for thinking the “little people” as you put it, can’t innovate, that’s not what I think at all, I am one of those little people.

          Innovation isn’t ripping other people/companies off for a persons own profit, no matter how big or small they are.

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  • Kevin

    The narcissist president Obongo of the US is at it again. Americans can help but vote in idiots. They vote on emotion not brains.

    • lolrus

      Oh because Obama has so much to do with it?

    • http://www.facebook.com/billyup Jesse Jones

      You’re a Moron. I capitalized Moron because your level of idiocy is outstanding. I’m guessing you’re a party liner, AKA someone who thinks the republicans or at the least the tea party can make no mistakes. Initially 9 of the people championing SOPA were republicans, only 4 were democrats. You need to realize democrats aren’t the enemy, money in politics is the enemy. If a dem or a repub take money from big business and vote in that businesses favor they are corrupt and need to be voted out. I don’t care which party they belong to, if they are corrupt they are corrupt. So turn off the fox news and start thinking for yourself.

      • Joshschmautz

        not like msnbc is much better

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PXX4S66KOUIGIKTTIMV3CBGO7Y Colin

        True,
        But the voter is left with no choice when Big Business funds both the Republican and the Democrat candidate for senator or whatever.
        If you vote for one, he’s corrupt & in their pocket. If you vote for the other, ditto. If you don’t vote, you may be able to claim the moral high ground, but you have done nothing to stop corrupt Corporate America.

        • Ven

          The correct answer is to vote for the independent. The vote is not wasted, because it sends a message to both of those parties that the corruption is getting ridiculous. Go read McCain’s Facebook: after penning the new stuff in the NDAA, he gets more hate comments than I would have thought possible. The problem is that a ton of folks will vote anti-Obama or anti-Perry… by voting for the other one.

          If you think the system is broken, vote independent. It may do next to nothing, but that’s still more than not voting at all.

      • James

        You would have to be American right? They all resort to insults. What a failure of a country America is now. Disgrace of mixed race garbage.

        • Guest

          Flagged for the obvious racism.

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  • Anonymous

    How corrupt is politics?

    The EU Council has just adopted the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA).

    In case you did not see this one coming that would be because they sneaked it in at the Agriculture & Fisheries meeting. So amongst topics like “Total allowable catches (TACs) and quotas for 2012″, “Fishing opportunities for 2012 in the Black Sea”, “Authorisation of four genetically modified varieties”, “Aid for processed citrus fruit”, “Welfare of animals during transport”, “Vaccination against bluetongue”, “Excess CO2 emissions from new cars” and oddly “Temporary reception of certain Palestinians” we come to the small extra note of ACTA.

    And of course amongst all these other big animal discussions ACTA was not mentioned, discussed, debated or opposed in the slightest. ACTA was however passed into law.

    You did not see that one coming exactly as they planned and I am sure the SOPA distraction helped.

    • FinalApokylypse

      New Zealands 3 strike law was rushed through too due to the earthquake that hit one of its cities Christchurch. It however has no relationship with the quake and it was an excuse to slip it in.. Seems to happen waaay too much. Course it should never happen at all really..

    • F**kMargaretThatcher

      The EU council is an unelected body totally independent of the EU parliament which hosts our elected MEPs. The Council often overrules matters of European Union law which the Parliament and EUCJ have set with no means of public oversight.

      All Europeans should be afraid of this system. It regularly makes decisions affecting one of the biggest communities in the world with no way to counter its powers.

      Independent nation states may still be able to discount any laws or regulations set by the council, but I doubt any of the more powerful EU nations (Germany, France, UK, Italy) will do in this instance as the policy is in line with the acts they are pursuing themselves in their own countries.

  • Stiev0Kniev0

    I would like to note that I used to pirate music all of the time, and now that Spotify came along, I have no problem paying $10 a month for premium with a seeming unlimited amount of music with much more ease of finding new music. Not to mention that the service is free with ads.

    • jimthom

      Really? Why would you pay $10 a month?

      The question for all of this is, “What new businesses will spring up around SOPA?”

      It won’t be as dramatic as DMCA, when it was passed.

      Actually, SOPA probably won’t mean much at all.

      • http://www.facebook.com/billyup Jesse Jones

        Wow you’re thinking very shallowly. DMCA is nothing compared to SOPA. Under SOPA there will be no court case to prove a site needs to be shut down or blocked. DMCA at least gave immunity to ISPs and Web Hosts, DMCA allowed for lots of protections for those not actually involved in something their costumers do. SOPA doesn’t.

  • Alyssa Blindy

    SOPA is, way overboard. It is a SWEEP of the internet, which would cause the internet to turn into a much, less active place than it currently is. Many things would be swept away which o not deserve to be, such as twitter, Facebook, grooveshark, all torrent sites such as TPB (this can be argued; some people believe this should be swept away but I personally don’t believe so), possibly even Napster, many CC copyrighted materials, an so much more. The internet would be, a really really hallow and almost valueless place if SOPA passes. The opponents have the common sense to recognize this fact.

    • http://www.facebook.com/billyup Jesse Jones

      I can’t believe people don’t understand this. Also, I can’t believe people don’t understand that torrents themselves aren’t illegal.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PXX4S66KOUIGIKTTIMV3CBGO7Y Colin

        Mr & Mrs Average are bombarded with far more news & opinion on TV & in the press than they can absorb. These news sources belong to Big Business. So, surprise, surprise, they say little or nothing about their proprietors’ pushing for censorship – both for copyright infringement and to distort peoples’ perception of what’s happening in the world.
        I’m not interested in most sports, so don’t follow the burning issues in tennis. Equally Mr & Mrs Average aren’t that interested in file sharing, so they don’t read Torrentfreak & learn about the burning issues here.
        So they don’t understand the threats to their freedom.

  • FARK

    I don’t think so

    • http://www.facebook.com/billyup Jesse Jones

      What don’t you think?

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  • Teejones1766

    OMG the sky is falling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/billyup Jesse Jones

      I hope you’re joking about you thinking people are over-reacting. We are not over-reacting. This will mean the end of the internet as anything but another place for big business to sell it’s products. There will be no news sites that aren’t main stream. There will be unofficial ANYTHING. No fan fiction, no parody songs, no sketches based on anything that isn’t 100% original, no Youtube videos that aren’t just people speaking their opinion or playing their own original music, no torrent sites at all even if they only host legal torrents(yes torrents are 100% legal if the file that is being shared isn’t copywritten). There are thousands of other examples, so please tell me you were just joking.

      • Aussie Bob

        no it’s not the end of the internet, even in the limited sense you suggest. It simply is America shooting itself in the foot with a shotgun, both feet.

        What will happen will be along these lines:
        1. a period of chaos where companies try to adjust to new laws
        2. companies outside America stop dealing with American companies
        3. American net companies move out of America
        4. America loses significant tax income becomes unable to pay loan interest so defaults on debt
        5. China now owns America

      • Pelouze

        You’re overeacting – the act is designed for Foreign Infringing websites, that are “prominently dedicated” to copyright infringement.

        Not taking down Youtube and some kid singing a song.

        • I am Spock

          If you truely believe that…….youre a fucking idiot!!

        • Anonymous

          The problem is how do you define “foreign”?

          Is that using hosting overseas when many US businesses do that? Or is it because they have customers outside the United States? Overseas funds? Maybe it is because they have sub-companies in other countries?

          I think we could quite comfortably fit FaceBook in as being a foreign service and shock horror they even use BitTorrent to keep their servers updated.

          SOPA is a very ambiguous law and that is half its danger. It is very easy to turn around and make US business into “foreign”

        • Ven

          Regardless of intent, read the wording of the Bill. It spells out clearly that right’s holders (or whoever wants to claim rightsholder – it doesn’t require proof to lodge a claim) can send SOPA takedown requests to knock out sites. Those sites have to turn around and file a counterclaim, go before a judge, and PROVE they are innocent.

          SOPA essentially urinates on the concept of “Innocent until proven guilty” or however the wording goes in the Bill of Rights.

        • Pelouze

          Calm down – “I am Spock”

          The bill is designed to effect sites predominantly engaging in piracy, that is its aim. Will the internet change if it passes, yeah probably…..who bought it to this , legitimate content producers from large to small…….or people stealing their material for personal gain ?

          …….um, the latter of course.

        • Danny

          Peloser you must see that your bosses will abuse this. They abuse DMCA all the time to knock out competition. Just think what they would do if they had the power to take a site offline, they can see the $$ in their eyes already!

    • Ven

      Oh yeah no big deal, the Federal Government is just whittling away our Constitutional freedoms… Nothing to see here.

  • AVGN Junior

    If Facebook and all of the Immature Networking sites did go offline, the Internet can be better again. Facebook is the worst site to have replace MySpace, yet MySpace was signs of showing how stupid and fucked up the world has gotten. Many people clicking the “Like” button on everything they see that shows how blinded they can be by modern technology. Technology hasn’t gotten better, it has gotten worse. I normally don’t post but yeah just saying, laters people.

    • AVGN Senior Senior

      So what you’re saying is, you have absolutely no clue what this news item is about.

      • Candle_massacre

        I read the article douche :D my comment applied to the SOPA ACT that if Facebook and all them sites got shut down that would be total kick ass. Shouldn’t you be playing COD MW3? :D

        • Pelouze

          It would be good in a way – FB, twitter etc, demonstrates how self absorbed people can be. Like I’m interested in what you’re having for dinner.

          In any event, these site are not the object of this act, so nothing changes.

        • FinalApokylypse

          I’m not a big fan of twitter and facebook etc. That doesn’t mean that I think its a good thing for it to go down.. That’s like saying just because you like rock music but dislike techno music that rock should continue to develop and grow but techno music should just crash and burn and should never be played on a radio station or in a shop. Just because you don’t like something does NOT mean its bad or that someone else can’t find a use or enjoyment out of it..

          And as for Pelouze you really are just out of touch completely.. Different people are different in the ways that they socialize. You are probably prefer face-face conversations or email or well… you could be very anti-social.

          Facebook is just another medium for people to keep in touch and socialize and twitter appeases those who prefer to broadcast their thoughts/feelings.. Neither is inheritently bad and accomodate different people doing things they want. Hell this forum lets me voice my opinion, that’s something your doing as well or should all forums go down as well as people should be engaged in these discussions through snail mail..

        • Pelouze

          @ FinalApokylypse

          I didn’t say I wanted them to go down.

          Sites like FB and Twitter are not the targets of the bill. And no, I’m not out of touch.

          The current landscape of the Internet has some very bright spots and some very dark spots. The rampant infringement of other peoples original works (not just mainstream) but small production companies, individual artists etc – is being shared by others for profit in many cases and at little to no cost to the consumer. Any cost from those infringing enterprises (be it cyberlocker earnings, advertising revenues etc) goes straight to their pockets. In many cases, even the taxes that they pay (if they pay any) do not go to the country where they consume services. Why is that vaguely right ?

          Doesn’t that sound a little parasitic to you ?

  • Anonymous

    Protect-IP (PIPA) now claims to have 41 out of the 60 people needed to pass the Senate once the vote occurs near the end of January.

    • Guest

      That’s bad?

      • Anonymous

        It is bad but it could we worse. PIPA is a less bad version of SOPA where PIPA goes through the Senate and SOPA the House.

        In this case I see 41 Senators who don’t care about the US Constitution.

        SOPA/PIPA to the Internet is like trying to cure a common cold using a lobotomy. The real scary part is that there are no Doctors or Nurses in the room when the Internet experts have been ignored.

        The good news is that while PIPA managed to get 41 in support then on my last count only 25 would support SOPA.

  • http://y2kemo.com y2kemo

    SOPA will, whether intentionally or unintentionally, disrupt mega sites such as Reddit, DIGG, and Stumbleupon and may completely eradicate small time bloggers like me. Downvote SOPA.

    • Pelouze

      why would it effect you ?

      what sort of blog do you run that might be dedicated to copyright infringement ?

      • Lance Kyo

        A site doesn’t have to be dedicated to copyright infringement. Basically, if someone CLAIMS it’s dedicated, it’s taken down. There’s no counter notice or anything like with DMCA. Not to mention, if any of the users who comment on his blog happen to link to something that can be misconstrued as copyright infringement based on the VERY broad definition of this bill, it’s taken down as well.

        • Pelouze

          That’s not how it works, the site isn’t taken down.

      • Anonymous

        You are best of reading this one…
        http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2011/12/16/how-sopa-could-ruin-my-life/

        Any web 2.0 site that allows user content, uploads or linkage is also at risk.

        • Pelouze

          If a person runs a site that allows user uploaded content, I can see them having to be damn careful about what they allow – but, shouldn’t it be that way anyway ? – being responsible for what you provide ?

          As for the guy in the Forbes article, I glanced through his site and saw plenty of reviews and hand written content. I didn’t see anything related to profiting from piracy.

        • Ven

          Also, any site deemed to be facilitating the bypassing of these and other copyright procedures will be considered a site “Dedicated to the Theft of U.S. Property” under Section 103.1 of SOPA. This section also targets sites that take deliberate action to hide copyright violation (which could definitely include failure to log data).

        • Anonymous

          The problem Pelouze is that most sites only have a small staff even for many thousands of users. So they don’t have the resources to monitor all they do and they could even be laws against spying.

          A second problem occurs if the site allows file uploads when it is not so easy to say what files infringe copyright and what ones don’t. With thousands of uploads it is not possible to play them all to estimate. Then what have I already said about user privacy?

          So this why under DMCA law copyright owners need to point out the problem files so the business can remove them.

          The big problem then is what if you have many infringing uploads, many DMCA take-down requests, and many other suspicious files amongst the much good stuff you do welcome?

          SOPA law can then say much infringement happens here so let us destroy this business. All with the site owners acting honestly, fairly and within the law.

        • Anonymous

          “If a person runs a site that allows user uploaded content, I can see them having to be damn careful about what they allow – but, shouldn’t it be that way anyway ? – being responsible for what you provide ?”

          You just made an argument for a bar owner being kept liable for what two patrons were saying to one another in the corner. So no, you should not be held responsible for what is being said outside of your control.

          I’ll make it even simpler for you. You have a party. Two people get into an argument. Politics get discussed. One party libels the other. You are instantly arrested for enabling.

          Now imagine that this isn’t a private party. You own a football stadium and are held liable for every conversation going on in the seats. Your only solution is to post a security guard every three seats or close the stadium down.
          And that’s exactly what SOPA does.

        • http://y2kemo.com y2kemo

          Correct, so if users comment on a blog and upload copyrighted images I could be held accountable.

        • Pelouze

          “The problem Pelouze is that most sites only have a small staff even for many thousands of users. So they don’t have the resources to monitor all they do and they could even be laws against spying.”

          On the other hand, companies that create content can also have a very small staff.

          So why should the creator of content have to search 000′s of sites for their material ?

          Isn’t it more time effective for a site owner to be responsible for their own website ?

          And sure, I understand that some sites are giant and still run with a skeleton staff……but, if that business is so large and difficult to manage, is it even a viable business to run on a skeleton staff…..why should the creators have to police their website (and 000′s like them) because they don’t have the ability to do it themselves ?

        • Anonymous

          Under the law it has always been the case that the copyright or patent owners need to police their own property. That is the way it has always been for several reasons where the main one is that no one else cares to protect your property.

          Even if they did care then no one knows your property better than you do and you sure are not paying them for the their time cleaning up your problem. It is also easy for them to put their business needs first.

          Should you not have the desire or time to play police then there are certainly businesses around who will protect your creation for you for a fee. Should your creation be largely successful then that forms part of the common cost.

          In conclusion from what I have seen then the pirates are more successful keeping media on-line than the copyright owners are with taking it down.

        • Anonymous

          @Pelouze

          “So why should the creator of content have to search 000′s of sites for their material ?

          Isn’t it more time effective for a site owner to be responsible for their own website ?”

          1) For the same reason it isn’t up to the owner of a parking garage to verify that all the cars parked in his garage are legit? For the same reason the distributor of a phone book is not responsible for checking that none of the phone numbers go to a crack distributor? Because in ordinary jurisprudence, no person should be held responsible for raising a grievance rightly belonging to another person?

          2) That’s a direct straw man. Either made through blunt ignorance or deliberately. It is in practice completely impossible for any site owner to police a website containing user-generated material. The only people who can take a stance on whether the material is “legitimate” or not are either the owners of the material or the ones who uploaded the link. Making the site owner responsible for the uploads is just like making the owner of a store responsible for the content of everything you happen to hear while walking down an aisle.

          I.e. that argument is irrelevant since it levies a burden on to the site owner which is impossible for the site owner to fulfill. In real effect it gets even worse. SOPA, used in the example above, would make the store owner culpable if two customers discussed an adress in the store and that adress in turn happened to contain illicit goods.

          A site owner has no real ability to know whether any link which was posted leads to an “enabling” site. This is why legislators wrote safe harbor provisions into the DMCA – every law expert agreed that without such a provision, the DMCA would literally kill any business trying to run a website. SOPA removes that provision and drags the entire mess one step further.

          For us pirates SOPA doesn’t mean a damn thing. For legitimate businesses it’s much like a double amputation.

        • Pelouze

          “In conclusion from what I have seen then the pirates are more successful keeping media on-line than the copyright owners are with taking it down”

          And why is that ? because there are 000′s of sites and almost no consequences for posting content that infringes on someone elses rights ?

          This model obviously suits pro pirates, why would anyone who prefers to not pay for the copywritten material that they consume for free want that to change ?

          Sites are dedicated to it and money is made by those involved. at the very least, leechers benefit from free media at cost to the creators.

          So its ok for everyone to prosper apart from those who created it ?? Wow, only on the internet lol

      • Anonymous

        A free speech blog???

      • Anonymous

        If that was the criteria under which you can get in hot water with SOPA then there’d be little problem as that would, in effect, be the DMCA.

        The problem is that SOPA is the DMCA without safe harbor or burden of proof needed. I.e. If your blog is completely legal but is in competition with any of the franchises deemed “stakeholders” under SOPA then they can point a finger and put you out of business without you having any realistic chance of clearing your name.

        You’ll just wake up to discover that as far as the credit card companies and banks are concerned, you just ceased to exist. You have a grand total of five days to put an appeals process through court at your own expense.

        And if you manage to get your name cleared they can point the finger again. Can you think of one good reason why even Microsoft is against SOPA? And Kaspersky? Because the legislation in effect renders everyone with a commercial software platform at all liable.

        Basically, you run a blog, I post a commentary containing a link to a torrent, or to any site where such links are found then one finger pointed your way and your assets are frozen.

        In short, no blog can be run without pre-moderating every comment made on it. Guess what that means for WordPress, Youtube, Facebook or any other social site to be found on the internet?

        My impression of you so far has been that you are a clueless idiot with no sense of consequence at all. Your commentary above just confirmed that.

        • Pelouze

          In short, no blog can be run without pre-moderating every comment made on it. Guess what that means for WordPress, Youtube, Facebook or any other social site to be found on the internet?

          Depends on the blog. Look at all the Blogger sites, I have one and can moderate everything. Same with WordPress.

          Clueless, moi ? take a glance in the mirror.

        • Ven

          Let it go SDM. When his blog goes he can calmly and rationally explain to himself what he did wrong.

        • Anonymous

          @Pelouze

          “Depends on the blog. Look at all the Blogger sites, I have one and can moderate everything. Same with WordPress.

          Clueless, moi ? take a glance in the mirror.

          No, your problem is that you literally have no idea. Unless you are willing to approve or decline any post before it gets posted, you are liable for wanton prosecution under SOPA. No warnings given.

          For you yourself that means you just got yourself another part-time job checking and approving everything anyone might think of leaving as commentary. For a blog such as torrentfreak, that means you are required to pre-moderate a few hundred comments per day. If your blog was actually sizeable, try a thousand or more.

          And for any social site such as Facebook, try enforcing that every last one of the thousands of comments, status updates, links, added material, imagery etc which gets updated per hour HAS TO BE PRE-MODERATED with 100% accuracy. Every link posted has to be checked so it doesn’t lead to a site where copyright infringement is, in some later stage, possible. Any torrent link has to be downloaded in it’s entirety to verify whether it’s “infringement” or not – but if it is, you, while trying to verify it, are also guilty of infringement directly. So you can not afford to have links to any software or any third-party site at all existing on your site.

          And that includes ads – you are held responsible for the ads randomly generated by a third party and if those ads in turn lead to a site which can, under the same terms as yours, be seen to violate SOPA, then you are out of luck.

          Basically with SOPA in place, no one allowing users to post commentaries or material can practically exist at all.

          Last time I looked in a mirror I was seeing a highly paid professional who’s job it is to deliver consequence analysis on complex systems. Looking at you and going by the general trend of your arguments, I just see a highly opinionated clueless moron who apparently is unable to add ten plus ten together without taking off his shoes and socks.

        • Pelouze

          “Last time I looked in a mirror I was seeing a highly paid professional who’s job it is to deliver consequence analysis on complex systems.”

          You should stick to doing consequence analysis – the SOPA bill doesn’t work the way you think it does and fear-mongering that blogs will get taken off line for one user posted infringing link when the blog in question isn’t dedicated to piracy shows that.

  • Christopher Franko

    these comments have me laughing so hard. But the sad truth is well exactly that.. sad as fuck. sopa is that shit elites have been wanting to clean the internet with for a while. Anyone that knows about deepnet will instantly see a huge influx of newfags. Perhaps we should start a lesson on TOR and Onions now before its too late. The current internet will migrate and all the people still using it will be abandoned.

    • Anonymous

      Actually, the regular internet will become a colorless dumbed down corporate desktop which will be available mostly for you to shop in after you click the “accept” button and write your email address in the box.

      It must amaze us how many people have no clue that this is exactly what is happening. What’s most disgraceful in that this internet transfer has been fully paid for by taxpayer dollars with the view toward fundamental social priorities beyond those of business. It has taken these corporations decades of controlling the media and the legislatures to get to this point where they can declare themselves the rightful and exclusive landlords of the internet. The 15 trillion dollars they extorted during the financial crisis is an unmeasurable drop in the bucket of corporate welfare by comparison. It’s incredible that any American or European politician can actually believe that they were elected by human citizens to do this.

      I think the point is not just to stop SOPA. That’s just a holding srategy. The real point is to raise the social awareness for the only action that will permanently stop these monopoly corporations from owning all aspects of the political process: A constitutional ammendment referendum to redefine corporate personhood such that corporations have standing only in administrative and judicial forums; and, are barred from being present in the legislatures during the making of new law unless formally summoned.

  • Rodtracyt1

    They may have started out trying to stop piracy, but now they are turning into bullies. They actually want to control the internet. How crazy.

  • Sharada prasad Mohanty

    I’m not really sure how facebook or youtube are any safer than reddit.

    http://goo.gl/fjbqO

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    • Candle_massacre

      ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKE JACK A DULL BOY ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKE JACK A DULL BOY ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKE JACK A DULL BOY ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKE JACK A DULL BOY Okay move along folks, nothing to see here!

    • Anonymous

      Sometimes I wish disqus had a downvote button.

  • RIAAtarded

    They are so short sighted with this it will hit their tech sector like a hammer. All US payment system, webhosting, cloud servers, data centers, domain names / registrars etc. will be considered a highly risky proposition for any business to use simple because they can lose that portion of their business without any warning or recourse. Over night you’ll see a mass exodus from these services which is sad as that isn’t a hit their economy needs right now. I can tell you everything I do online now from a business standpoint with no longer have any US affiliation I need to know I can trust in their products and as it stand I can’t.

  • Geee

    sopa…reddit….yup now it has no chance of passing

    • Anonymous

      The only sure way to stop SOPA is to phone up the supporters and say their latest check from Hollywood (MPAA/RIAA) just bounced.

      • Ven

        “I am mortified to be told that, in the United States of America, the sale of a book can become a subject of inquiry, and of criminal inquiry too.”

        “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.”

        “I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”

        “I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”

        “I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it.”

        “If the present Congress errs in too much talking, how can it be otherwise in a body to which the people send one hundred and fifty lawyers, whose trade it is to question everything, yield nothing, and talk by the hour?”

        “It is more dangerous that even a guilty person should be punished without the forms of law than that he should escape.”

        “Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”

        “Leave no authority existing not responsible to the people.”

        “Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains.”

        “Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add ‘within the limits of the law’ because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.”

        “Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then be trusted with the government of others? Or have we found angels in the form of kings to govern him? Let history answer this question.”

        All of these are courtesy of a Mr. Thomas Jefferson. I have no doubt that, should he appear today, he would without hesitation take up the fight against our current government. He was quite the rebel…

  • mrgeist445

    The hollywood elites are going broke, They are loosing their mansions and no one is watching their movies buying their cds dvds or mp3s anymore, There is no jobs so no one has the money to spend on entertainment anymore, The truth of the matter is when no one has a job and people are almost homeless no one really cares what the kardashians are doing anymore.

    This is all part of the inevitable collapse and ultimate failure of the capitalist economic model.

    • Enjoi

      Usually, capitalism goes wrong when governments get in it’s way. But I must admit you’re having a point: under capitalism, the only function of government should be to provide justice and protect private property. Since copyrights does that, SOPA would not be entirely wrong (under capitalism).You really disturbed my thoughts Mr. Geist…

      • Economist

        The initial concept of Copyright was supposed to protect freedom and private property but the copyright laws we have right now does not do that at all.

        SOPA is entirely wrong under capitalism because it work against free enterprise.

        Extreme capitalism, capitalism without control is the same as Communism.

        Instead of having a central government controlling everything like in the former Soviet union you have only an handful of feudal corporations controlling everything. In both case there is no freedom and no free enterprise.

        We have to go back to the drawing board.

    • Anon

      Copyright monopoly is not capitalist (well, not free-market capitalist), don’t go around blaming capitalism for this shit. Actual capitalists should be appalled by copyright and patent law. In fact, copyright is usually justified on socialistic grounds – the “poor starving artists” couldn’t compete in a free market, so let’s give them a century-long monopoly and completely destroy any semblance of a free market.

      http://mises.org/against.pdf

      Really, copyright monopoly it’s just comes down to a sociopathic desire for control and power over information flow, not capitalism or socialism. It’s from the “it’s not enough for me to win, somebody else must lose” school.

      • Resin

        “Actual capitalists should be appalled by copyright and patent law.”

        Not so. To someone who values a low amount of government influence, such laws are appalling, but a capitalist does not have to be such a person. Capitalists are, by and large, the ones who profit from copyright and patent law. The fact that the monopolies are government-mandated should have little effect on them.

        A true capitalist who has enough power can desire to use that power to create governmental mandates that favor their businesses. That’s one of the fundamental flaws in capitalism, the inability to separate the economic power from governmental power.

        And with all that said, it’s still a better system than any others out there. The only system that could be better is one that eliminates greed while retaining desire. In other words, impossible. Sad, isn’t it?

        TL;DR It’s just a matter of definition vs “capitalist” and “one who favors the free market”. Similar, but not the same.

        • Pasteur

          Life changes and I am afraid that Capitalism is no longer sustainable.

          Why? Because a perpetual growth is no more possible than a perpetual motion machine.

          The only thing setup to perpetual growth is cancer and it’s lead to death.

        • Resin

          I’m not sure that’s a valid criticism.

          No one ever said that growth had to be perpetual in economics; there could always be an end point. However, we’re nowhere near that end point now. People still have needs and desires go unfulfilled all the time, not due to the greed of anyone else, but due to the limitations of production. There are many inefficiencies.

          A system without growth has to be one that is extremely advanced and has mechanisms to allow for stasis. This isn’t true in the current world, and as a society, we aren’t ready for it. In fact, I’d go further and say it would be actively damaging to current society to lose our growth.

          As a question, what system do you think would work better? I don’t see a better one that wouldn’t require a complete reshaping of human nature, along with everything that got us as far as we’ve come.

        • Pasteur

          Well I am not an economist and frankly I don’t care how you call the organization of the economy as long as it work. The problem right now is that it does not work. Between 1945 to 1970 it seem to me that it was kind of working until it got totally corrupted. Communism obviously is even worst. So what do we have to do to fix this ?

  • LOLZ-SOPA

    I guess the USA likes censorship. What they’ve been talking about for decades about defeating. Now they’re implementing it by paid off politicians…And what can the public do? Fuck all. Thanks and Good Day.

  • Enjoi

    These guys probably do not give a fuck about the Internet, just like my great grandfather thought the fuel car was a machine from hell and was not worth a tenth of his horse.

    The Internet is probably from hell too. Oh wait, it’s from the US army, which is under the control of US government…

  • http://www.michaellockyear.com michael lockyear

    This sort of legislation could have a positive impact – I believe that it will drive the development and adoption of the world’s largest darknet. The next generation of P2P file-sharing networks will no doubt be ungovernable, impossible to censor, private and with hundreds of millions of users.

    • Anon

      And how are all these “hundreds of millions of users” going to find out about it, if content is censored/blocked? The bottom line is that there is no way to build a network without infrastructure, and if laws are passed handing over effective control of that infrastructure to the media industry, they own it. Its like giving a group of anti-car environmentalists control of the traffic light system, and then when traffic is all jammed up saying “don’t worry, new roads will be built bypassing the roads we just gave away control of”. It ain’t happening. The media industry knows that once this law is passed, it will never be repealed.

      • Anonymous

        If absolutely all traffic is encrypted, ISPs won’t know a pirate website from an AOL article.

        The hundreds of millions would find out about it through word of mouth as well as links. Just a few people can easily overcome censorship with enough links, and as population grows, so do the number of links. They can’t even touch piracy as it is, so how would they manage without upload speeds and sharing as the bottleneck? :P

        And then the “darknet” would replace the internet, effectively wasting the billions that were spent on this worthless bill.

        • Ven

          How do you truly decentralize, in such a way that inserted law enforcement can’t track and catch people?

        • Anonymous

          @Ven

          IP clusters would do it.

          There’s really nothing stopping people from telling ICANN to fuck off and doing whatever they please, and some new router firmware could start handing out “public” IPs (preferably IPv6). The trick would be to do a sort of “crashplan” type system, where one router (connection) hands out several IPs, and the same router receives its own IP from a random router of the same design. The idea would be to take a given ISP IP, and from it create a connection that is used temporarily by someone else; the owner of a router would then use a connection that is provided by someone else. Each router would ignore logs, effectively using an extra (random) hop for a given connection. This would avoid ISP logs completely without any encryption necessary.

          A service could be set up online to “register” your router, which would add it to the system. Past registration, however, the service’s only job would be to hand out lists of others in the system. It would be very similar to a bittorrent tracker.

          This is just an idea I came up with on the spot, and I’m sure there are much better ways of doings things, but I imagine it would work pretty damn well. I’ll watch for replies to see if you can poke holes in it. :)

      • http://www.michaellockyear.com michael lockyear

        We already have darknets (TOR, Freenet) – they are just not that popular. TOR for example only has a few thousand nodes which is not that many when compared to the millions of people sharing files with complete strangers using systems like bittorrent.

      • Geak

        You analogy is flawed because the road actually occupy space that is limited. Network connections however are for any practical purpose virtually unlimited. We could use the air wave for example bypassing completely the ISP.

  • Guntomy980

    Basically, SOPA bill going to affect torrentfreak also. Torrentfreak links to many sites that is illegal in view of USA

    • Ven

      More importantly, TF’s main function is to educate readers on methods of bypassing existing piracy-prevention systems.

  • http://hdmikabel.narod2.ru/ hdmi

    First reddit, then Digg, StumbleUpon, all article directories, blogs, search engines, anything with a link will be suspect.

    Follow the money, this a battle of corporations for the right to control everything on the internet.

    “Because the definitions and terminology in the bill are so vague, passing SOPA in its current form poses a threat to ALL user-generated sites online, and many other websites too.”

    Censorship by default. No one will want to link to other sites for fear they will be breaking the law.

    Patriot Act, NDAA 2012, SPOA, and a myriad of other bills taking rights away from Americans.

    I am all for stopping copyright infringement, but this is just another overreaction and goes too far.

    • Guest

      “then Digg”? You say that like it’ll be missed. Reddit has usurped the majority of past Digg users over the past two years. I mean, yeah, boo SOPA, but Digg hasn’t been relevant for quite a while.

      • Ven

        What’s that, you don’t mind if Muslims don’t get their religious freedoms, or if celebrities don’t deserve a right to trial, or seniors don’t have need for firearms?

        The best assurance of your freedoms is assurance for the freedoms of all men.

  • Tesla

    I have never been to Reddit till now, wish I hadn’t
    kinda queasy now…
    but.. they have rights too.
    Everyone has a right to say what the feel or think..

  • Internet Freedom

    ——– IMPORTANT: ——–

    I would like everyone’s attention for a moment. I’ve been an internet user for many years, and almost everything I’ve done depends on the internet. SOPA wishes to destroy it, completely ignoring people like me, and that it would utterly destroy our lives. The situation would be so desperate for me, that I am adopting an extreme measure of protest for the first time in my life, described here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtvc32i8iQA

    Text versions at the following links:

    http://piratepad.net/ep/pad/view/ro.LZhfuzV$YH$/latest
    http://tinypaste.com/bfeb59f0
    http://pastebin.me/83a7870a872ecefb396a05038b2471bf

    Basically: If the SOPA bill makes any progress, I will climb on one of the buildings in my city, and I will call the next senators or the media from there. This is not a joke, and it is a potential suicide threat! If they destroy everything I’ve been doing for years, I have no choice but to protest in this way for the world to see. PLEASE DESTROY THIS BILL NOW AND STOP THIS MADNESS NOW!

    Please share this message and the linked video! You are free to re-post it anywhere, so everyone can see how bad this is for some of us. If possible, I’m aiming to get the media to air it (eg: CNN). Thank you.

    • Ven

      That is not the best way to give your life for your beliefs.

  • Jon7272

    isps across the world now lose heaps of income. i only need 2 gig to do my banking not 500 g i currently have. not to mention the no need for external hard drives anymore so that market crashes. i will no longer need media centres, expensive pcs so that market drops .so the new nbn broadband network in australia 100 mb ps. 50 bill spent with no one needing it anymore . idiots running govs

    • RIAAtarded

      exactly so this all begs the question why US ISP aren’t opposing SOPA more vigorously as opposed to getting into bed with them. They know bloody well what we all use our connections for. Piracy pretty much accounts for a large percentage of what one would need any of these large plans with huge caps for. Same goes for cellphone data plans. The demand dictates what they are offering the consumers so what happens when it is no longer there? Pretty sure if these morons know it is effecting their shareholders it might give them pause.

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  • Anon

    Destroy the innovative money rolling part of the US enconemy to save the dinosaur part that refuses to embrace a new world. Well China and Europe are jumping up and down if SOPA is passed they are going to make a huge pile of GDP off the back of the USA. USA is not exporting enough and these tech info companies are booming and provide huge GDP gains…very odd to give the upper hand to countries refusing these laws. When the US sites are cleared out and caught up in legal fights Europe, China and Russia will simply fill the void for users and by the time the US sees it it will be too late.

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  • Cyan

    Shit makes no sense, why would Reddit be taken down for sharing links but Facebook would remain intact even thought people share millions of links on it each day?
    SOPA is flawed, even an eight year old can see it violates the first amendment.

  • WmDan

    Instead of Reddit you could check out

    http://www.UnambitiousUs.com – The Online Magazine for Time Wasters

    Movies, Games and Sports – now with YouTube Clip of the Day!
    Get your own stuff published!

    No ads, no bs.

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  • Anonymous

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  • BLUBBER

    I like the last paragraph. Paraphrasing, maybe you shouldn’t worry about people stealing your product and just lower the price instead. Yea, it’s okay to break the law and steal something if you can’t afford it. Ferrari dealership, here I come. Hey, I wouldn’t have to steal it if they would just lower the prices. It’s their fault.

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  • Herpder

    Reddit isn’t a community and I’d be happy if it died. An enormous group of idiots posting other people’s writing or work and taking credit via “Karma”.

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  • Mwhahaha

    SOPA Will Mean The End of Reddit, Says General Manager

    sorry that’s bullshit. it just won’t make that much money any more as it will have to either have link checkers or ppl to supervise membership applications, so those who are warned then banned for posting sites which don’t want to be linked aren’t allowed back in.

  • Anonymous

    now i hope it passes, just so reddit gets shut down

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