Supreme Court Rejects Hearing For Pirate Bay’s Peter Sunde

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November 8, 2012
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After being convicted for his role in operating The Pirate Bay, former site spokesman Peter Sunde is required to serve a jail sentence, but rather than giving in he’s fighting to the bitter end. His battle, however, has just received another setback. Despite Sunde calling for a retrial on evidential issues and allegations of bias, Sweden’s Supreme Court has announced the rejection of his application. All hopes now lie with the EU Court and the European Court of Human Rights.

Earlier this year the copyright infringement sentence of Peter Sunde was made final. This meant that the former Pirate Bay spokesman should have begun an eight month jail sentence in May, but this did not come to pass.

Despite having the odds stacked against him, Sunde has continued fighting for his freedom. In the same month his sentence was due to begin, Sunde filed a plea with the Swedish government requesting clemency.

In his plea, Sunde highlighted the lack of evidence to back up allegations made against him in the original case, including his participation in advertising deals and the work he is said to have carried out on The Pirate Bay’s load balancer.

Sunde also cited health concerns on top of commercial fears for his fledgling micro-payment business, Flattr. Not least, the former TPB spokesman came back to the claims of bias against two lay-jurors and a judge in the previous hearings (all of which were members of pro-copyright groups), and a policeman who worked on the case while also working for Warner Bros., one of the plaintiffs in the case.

But despite all the effort, it seems that at least for now the legal options in Sweden have been exhausted.

“Peter Sunde has not shown any evidence that may lead to new trial in the case. The Supreme Court therefore rejects the application for revision,” the Supreme Court said in a short statement.

Speaking with TorrentFreak, Sunde says he’s not surprised by the decision and that the application was somewhat of a formality before he begins the next phase of his fight.

“I didn’t really expect any other outcome,” he said.

“I just actually put into evidence all of the circumstances, including the US government’s pushing of Sweden, the police officer working for Warner brothers and thus no evidence in my favor ending up in the case, the prosecutor having clearly defined goals of sentencing us, and the issues of bias etc.”

Sunde explains that he wanted to show that no matter what the authorities are confronted with, The Pirate Bay are always guilty.

“I was making a point, that no matter how innocent we are, it doesn’t really matter. Our case was never up for a real trial, it was just up for us to lose,” he adds.

Despite the options in Sweden ending (at least for now) Sunde says that there are other avenues for claim in Europe.

“Now I can go to the European Court of Human Rights and use this denial of appeal as basis for the European Convention being breached. I needed to try all things in Sweden before it was possible for me to try it, and I didn’t want to be sent back to Sweden saying ‘you didn’t try THIS thing yet’.”

In addition to the ECHR application, Sunde says that the Court of Justice is also in receipt of a request for a new trial.

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What better way to keep an innocent person guilty is to prevent that person from appealing with presenting evidence that clearly would show that the judge/trial was of conflict of interest and biased to a guilty verdict. I hope that the ECHR will decide on the evidence presented.
- Scary_Devil_Monastery
  
  And actually, as Sunde says, it’s the very pro forma request for a retrial and the denial thereof which presents the documents required to place the subject before the EHCR.
- http://twitter.com/LanceRose2 LanceRose
  
  Evelyn answered I’m blown away that anyone can profit $5348 in 1 month on the network.(Click on menu Home)
- http://twitter.com/LanceRose2 LanceRose
  
  ……goo.gl/GiLQI
- Chronoss2008
  
  ya mena a guy whom in 2007 stood in front of a court and argued that a child molestation advocacy website is free speech is innocent.
  
  I call this karma, he’d actually get support and what not had he not done that and there are plenty a ways to argue free speech that dont advocate harm to kids….
  - I
    
    So free speech only applies to subjects that you like/agree with?
    - Stefan
      
      No, free speech applies also to content that people dont like. Bowever, that does not mean thatbfree speech is without limits. We bave agreed in our carbon worlds that not all information available is necessarily free speech. A violation of personaility rights for instance is not considered free speech. Slander, childpornography and copyright violation for commercisl purposes is not free speech either.
  - SlimThugScrewedMusic
    
    this guy again, hes hooked on cp, everything he says relates to it and how hes against it when no one asked what is his view on the subject. Outcome = hes a true p3,d.0…
  - Colin Carr
    
    Let’s follow your logic.
    1. In 2007 Peter Sunde argued that a child molestation advocacy website is free speech.
    From your tone, you seem to disagree. As an advocate of free speech, I support your right to disagree 100%. Indeed, like you, I’m far from keen on advocating child molestation.
    
    2. You conclude that Sunde must therefore be guilty as charged in the unrelated case commonly called The Pirate Bay Trial.
    
    Trying to accept your argument, I think you mean that because he said something you didn’t like, he must be guilty of something totally unconnected. All I can say is, “Whatever you’re on, I’d like to try some please.”
    - Later01
      
      It is koolaid
  - Scary_Devil_Monastery
    
    Indeed he is. I would say the same. Primarily because I know (which you appear not to do but which Sunde apparently does) that if you have monsters in society, their free speech is society’s greatest weapon.
    
    In a society where everything can be freely debated, good ideas prosper and bad ideas die (and are noted).
    Child abuse is more or less prohibited by normal biological prerogative – it has no chance of becoming acknowledged. Ever. Only in the most sick and restricted societies was it even tolerated. It is not nor ever will be a realistic option today.
    
    And this concerns almost every “freedom of speech” topic. The results when you block such freedoms are legion. Where I live it was unthinkable racists would ever occupy the parliament. Then “hate speech” was blocked and a decade later, here they are. Using more “politically correct” wording, but still bearing the same message.
    
    In defending PRQ Sunde was doing more to defend children from abuse than your ill-conceived venom ever will, you idiot.
    
    And in that you should check the german group Mogis – consisting of people who were abused as Children and as adults now make a stand against censorship because they see the harm that is done in preventing abuse.
  - Netgrazer
    
    Get help dude. You need to let go of what happened to you all those years ago, or you will go through life bitter and hateful.
Boblenton3

bottom line is if you have any reletion to TPB you got as less chance to appeal than a child rapist
- Chronoss2008
  
  thats ok PRQ will host your child rape website as they do a child molestation one….
  - MadAsASnake
    
    Can you take your pedophilia obsession elsewhere please.
  - ScrewEwe2
    
    Crownose, you’ve made your point man. Your repetitious pedophile posts are getting old. Give it a break, will ya please?
  - Scary_Devil_Monastery
    
    PRQ will do nothing of the sort. However, where “freedom of speech” is concerned, I note Mogis shares the PRQ’s stance. I assume that means that abused children, upon growing up, support Child molestors?
    
    I advise – once more and once only – that you actually read up on the facts.
    
    Being a self-proclaimed “hacker” means you should be supremely aware of the importance of actual fact.
    
    Or you might just be a troll in which case i seriously advocate that you hide.
Guest

If he can prove his allegations in relation to alleged bias he may stand a chance of having his conviction set aside or overturned however, unfortunately for Peter, his earlier bravado and total disregard for the rights of others and their business models will, I suspect, garner him little sympathy.
- Fredrika
  
  > “..unfortunately for Peter, his earlier bravado and total disregard for the rights of others and their business models will..”
  
  In what way has Peter shown total disregard for the rights of others and their business models?
  
  Being a spokesperson for a search engine that hosts no copyrighted material whatsoever, or disregarding legally completely baseless demands from ignorant and arrogant monopoly holders, does not equal disregarding anyone’s rights, or a business model, of which the success isn’t his responsibility in the first place.
  - Guest
    
    Here http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/12843 knock yourself out.
    
    There are any number of interviews with Peter where he openly shows disdain and contempt for the rights of others by advocating the free sharing of their IP and copyrights. Unfortunately for him, and your “argument”, the internet is awash with such interviews and statements where he is described, by himself and others, as a “Founder” of TPB.
    
    I appreciate that you are young and enthusiastic but your reality is not THE reality but an aspiration,
    - Fredrika
      
      > “There are any number of interviews with Peter where he openly shows disdain and contempt for the rights of others by advocating the free sharing of their IP and copyrights.”
      
      He has never advocated free sharing of anyone’s IP and copyrights, and just by reading that sentence it seems you know nothing of copyright in the first place. You can not share someone’s IP or copyright, you can share copies, and by dosing so performing an intrusion into a legislative monopoly, but that doesn’t mean you have shared IP or copyrights.
      
      Secondly, having a political opinion does not equal actually disregarding anyone’s right.
      
      > “Unfortunately for him, and your “argument”, the internet is awash with such interviews and statements where he is described, by himself and others, as a “Founder” of TPB.”
      
      Being a founder does not equal being a moderator, which are the one’s that handle reports on torrents.
      
      > “I appreciate that you are young and enthusiastic but your reality is not THE reality but an aspiration,”
      
      I would appreciate if you could show enough age, maturity and decency to refrain from resorting to personal attacks and discussing me, instead of the actual topic.
    - Guest
      
      “I would appreciate if you could show enough age, maturity and decency to refrain from resorting to personal attacks and discussing me, instead of the actual topic.”
      
      Ah, the old “I really don’t know how to answer this so I’ll try to make out that it’s a personal attack” technique.
      
      This, coming from someone who describes others who disagree with them as “ignorant”, proves just how self centered and detached from reality you are.
      
      “He has never advocated free sharing of anyone’s IP and copyrights” Really? Then what was the Pirate Bay all about?
      
      As for my knowing nothing about copyright?
      
      You cannot “share” copies without first creating copies. Creating copies without the rights holders permission is an illegal infringement of their IP / Copyright. That is a fact, not opinion. It’s you who does not understand copyright and, unfortunately for Peter and the other three (convicted) defendants the law does.
      
      Twist it how you want. He / they were convicted.
      
      As far as I am aware you are not suitably legally qualified to assert what is or isn’t correct in law – though I’m happy to be proven wrong if you are qualified legally. Unfortunately for them those who convicted Peter and his co-defendants were / are.
      
      Whether their conviction was correct or impaired remains to be seen.
      
      All I am saying is that Peter, by his own words and deeds, both pre & post conviction has done little to suggest that it was flawed.
      
      Good luck to him with the ECHR – I suspect he’ll need it.
    - Fredrika
      
      > “Ah, the old “I really don’t know how to answer this so I’ll try to make out that it’s a personal attack” technique.”
      
      I did indeed respond do the actual relevant parts, that touched on the topic. That last part was a response to something which had nothing to do with the topic. Starting to discuss what you believe to be someone’s age, and your personal perception of someone’s enthusiasm, as if that had any relevance to any arguments, and claiming that they don’t live in reality, without explaining why that would be the case is a text book personal attack by every definition. Are you to ignorant to understand that?
      
      > “This, coming from someone who describes others who disagree with them as “ignorant”, proves just how self centered and detached from reality you are.”
      
      No, i have never called anyone ignorant for disagreeing with me? I call people ignorant after they have proven to be just that, and before i call them ignorant i actually explain in detail what of their writings that was wrong, and why, as i just did above with you, when you again proved your ignorance, accusing me of trying to make a personal attack out to be a personal attack, when it in fact was one according to actual definitions of what constitutes personal attacks.
      
      If you believe different, please quote any comment from me where you believe i called someone ignorant purely based on difference of opinions, and i will help you read that comment properly. I dare you.
      
      > “Really? Then what was the Pirate Bay all about?”
      
      Pirate Bay is a search engine where people can use their free speech and human rights protected freedom to seek, receive and impart information through any media and regardless of frontiers, through legally uploading, indexing, searching for and downloading fully legal non-copyrighted torrents. That does not equal sharing of someone’s IP or copyright, nor does it equal advocating copyright infringements.
      
      > “You cannot “share” copies without first creating copies. Creating copies without the rights holders permission is an illegal infringement of their IP / Copyright. That is a fact, not opinion.”
      
      Yes, in some countries, far from all, but that’s not what you said, now is it??? Performing an IP infringement on someone’s copyright does not equal having shared anyone’s actual IP or copyright, and Peter has never advocated that. If you believe otherwise please produce a quote from Peter and i will help you read that properly.
      
      In fact Peter on the contrary actually rejects sharing of copyrighted works from Hollywood if the copyright holders disagrees with such sharing, he again made that opinion clear in the very interview you provided a link to. You seem to know very little of Peter and his opinions.
      
      > “It’s you who does not understand copyright..”
      
      Again an empty meaningless accusation with no explanation to what you mean or refer to.
      
      > “..and, unfortunately for Peter and the other three (convicted) defendants the law does.”
      
      We don’t know that, because the judges were according to the Swedish and European constitution biased.
      
      > “Twist it how you want. He / they were convicted.”
      
      Which has no relevance whatsoever to any of the claims put forward by me.
      
      > “As far as I am aware you are not suitably legally qualified to assert what is or isn’t correct in law..”
      
      Since you know nothing about me, who i am or what i know, your awareness is zero, and therefore there is no reason for you to assume anything?
      
      > “Unfortunately for them those who convicted Peter and his co-defendants were / are.”
      
      Which has no relevance to any of the claims pout forward by me.
      
      > “All I am saying is that Peter, by his own words and deeds, both pre & post conviction has done little to suggest that it was flawed.”
      
      He has correctly quoted the Swedish and European constitution regarding what actually constitutes bias, and those circumstances where indeed fulfilled during the trials by all the involved judges. If you don’t consider clearly unconstitutional trials with according to the Swedish and European constitution biased judges to be flawed, well then..
    - icec0ld
      
      “Ah, the old “I really don’t know how to answer this so I’ll try to make out that it’s a personal attack” technique.”
      
      Hilarity on ice friend. Sadly, you’ve failed to back up anything you’ve said.
      
      “You cannot “share” copies without first creating copies. Creating copies without the rights holders permission is an illegal infringement of their IP / Copyright. That is a fact, not opinion. It’s you who does not understand copyright and, unfortunately for Peter and the other three (convicted) defendants the law does.”
      
      So the fact that I copy the CD to my computer and then put a copy of that onto my iPod equates to copy right in fringement? In your dreams perhaps. It’s you you who dosn’t understand copyright and just how outdated your source of the definition is
      
      “Twist it how you want. He / they were convicted.”
      
      By a court with clear, present and open ties to clear levels of influence and bias.
      
      Innocent until proven guilty extends beyond a conviction. It’s actually the basis for apeals and retrials to enforce justice. Not subvert it as you seem to think
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      It’s interesting to note that you accuse Fredrika for making up a straw man wordwall – after which you yourself creates one.
      
      “Creating copies without the rights holders permission is an illegal infringement of their IP / Copyright.”
      “Fair Use” in quite many nations expressly allow this.
      
      And Sunde was never accused of either making copies or distributing them. Both steps were performed by third parties. To be blunt his involvement in either activity was less than that of a chemistry teacher whose teachings include the chemical formula for thermite. According to your argumentation, said teacher should be held culpable for his student’s actions.
      
      “”He has never advocated free sharing of anyone’s IP and copyrights” Really? Then what was the Pirate Bay all about?”
      
      An open forum centered on free communication…and no filesharer, even today shares “IP”. IP is not and never has been either a created work or a copy thereof. IP is a very specific restriction in the property rights of other people and nothing else.
      All we have established so far is that you do not know what copyright is. Just as Fredrika states.
      
      “All I am saying is that Peter, by his own words and deeds, both pre & post conviction has done little to suggest that it was flawed.”
      
      In short the tacit fact that the chief investigator of the TPB case was conducting salary negotiations with his new employer at one of the major plaintiffs at the same time that he was investigating TPB is irrelevant to you because Sunde has demonstrated an “opinion”?
      
      Or that the raid was directly ordered by a minister which is actually strictly illegal according to most european laws? (Assuming – which is a clincher in Sweden if nowhere else, that intent can be proven).
      
      Or, and this is really interesting – that the TPB crew were sentenced as being “accessory” to a crime which was neither raised as a case nor proven.
      
      And finally, that the sentence, by extension, assumes that the sales lost by the industry in total would amount to 42 times the GNP of the entire world?
      
      Thank you for that tidbit. It tells us all volumes about your own “stringent” criteria for what is an open-and-shut case. As well as your ability to measure proportional response.
      
      So far you have only demonstrated a thorough ignorance of what “copyright” is, what “intellectual property” is, and an extremely casual attitude towards what constitutes due jurisprudence. Apparently, according to you, an “opinion, well stated” is enough to prove both intent and guilt.
      
      Now thank you for playing – but unfortunately your mere “opinions” require backing by fact before they become relevant.
    - Anon
      
      im ALWAYS looking forward to reading a post by fredrika u ROCK dude/dudette
      PS: this has nothing to do with the topic
    - Fredrika
      
      > “im ALWAYS looking forward to reading a post by fredrika u ROCK dude/dudette”
      
      Naaaaaw, you’re almost as cute as the polar bears i’m watching a documentary about right now!! :D
      
      I’ts BBC’s Polar Bear: Spy on the ice by John Downer, and it has a pirate connection btw, hidden camera surveillance!! =)
      
      And in an hour it’s time for some Powerpuff Girls ass-kicking!!
  - roadkill
    
    The Guest is obviously trolling us. You should ignore him. Cheers.
    - Anon
      
      acutally no im not trolling her, every post he/she makes has alot of info backing them up and i acutally learn more from her post than the people that whine and cry in the comments
    - Brandy_dl
      
      “acutally no im not trolling her, every post he/she makes has alot of info backing them up and i acutally learn more from her post than the people that whine and cry in the comments”
      
      That is clearly bullshit.
  - JordanKratz
    
    I totally Support his Cause and his views and I am not a young one.
    I am 56 years old and an original 1976 Punk rocker.I still play live music in Bands.I live in Maine.Big Meat Hammer has been going for 22 years now.
    
    FUCK THE MAFIAA !!!
    That is my views.And I wish Peter all the luck.
    Boycott all MAFIAA Stuff.Do not allow these fuckers into your wallet in any way.I actively Boycott and I actively ignore their Industry and anything they are putting out.
    
    Buy & Support Local and Indie Art !
    Find and discover new Bands who are making it on their own.These guys are not Traitors like the Sell-Out Artists of the Big Labels.Support the small Artists and Fuck the MAFIAA but good.
  - Andrew Lee
    
    ROFL! You owned him!
  - Dirtyshits
    
    The guy is a total coward and a cry baby fuck turd. He is not so brave no is he? ‘Fucking copyright holders with retractable battons’ as one of his gobshites said when a request was placed to have someones stolen work removed.
    HA HA I hope he goes down for the rest of his miserable little life.
    I guess he is like most theiving turds on here, all mouth and no trousers.
    It is people like you lot that are going to give goverments the excuse they need to totally clamp down on the net and restrict it. The new infrastructure is coming and soon little bits of shit like you lot will not be able to take a piss without someone knowing about it and you will drag all us law abiding decent people into you shitpit. Ooooh our freedom of speech….Since when has stealing stuff been about freedom of speech. AND FREDRIKA SHUT YOUR FUCKING GOBSHITE MOUTH YOU FUCKTARD…YOU KNOW NOTHING AND YOU HAVE THE BIGGEST MOUTH THAT NEEDS SHUTTING WITH A FIST.
    - Fredrika
      
      > “The guy is a total coward and a cry baby fuck turd. He is not so brave no is he?”
      
      Standing up against an illogical sentence from an unconstitutional trial with according to the European and Swedish constitution biased judges make you a coward, cry baby and unbrave? Ok then..
      
      > “..as one of his gobshites said when a request was placed to have someones stolen work removed.”
      
      Try not do distort the facts, ok? The request was legally baseless and it was not regarding any stolen works, it was regarding a fully legal non-copyrighted torrent file, to which the correspondent had no rights whatsoever.
      
      > “It is people like you lot that are going to give goverments the excuse they need to totally clamp down on the net and restrict it.”
      
      Pointing out facts and refuting false claims gives the governments excuses to violate human rights? Ok then.. Well at least China and Iran agrees with you.
      
      > “The new infrastructure is coming and soon little bits of shit like you lot will not be able to take a piss without someone knowing about it and you will drag all us law abiding decent people into you shitpit.”
      
      Yeah, please remind me how that worked out in China which has the most controversial surveillance of the net that’s possible, but still they didn’t manage to make a dent in on-line piracy. You obviously have no technical knowledge whatsoever.
      
      > “Ooooh our freedom of speech….Since when has stealing stuff been about freedom of speech.”
      
      No one has ever claimed something so stupid.
      
      > “AND FREDRIKA SHUT YOUR FUCKING GOBSHITE MOUTH YOU FUCKTARD…YOU KNOW NOTHING AND YOU HAVE THE BIGGEST MOUTH THAT NEEDS SHUTTING WITH A FIST.”
      
      Oh behave. Do you always give this much affectionate attention to people which you believe knows nothing?
    - ScrewEwe2
      
      You know, there are over the counter medications that can be taken by people like you that suffer from irritable bowel syndrome. I’m sure if you can overcome your dirty shits problem you won’t be in such a bad mood and you can start being nicer to people. It will probably help to elevate your self worth too. It must be difficult going out in public knowing that everyone can smell your soiled undergarments from a block away. Good luck.
- Guest
  
  It wouldn’t matter if Peter Sunde had walked up and pissed on the judges. There is confirmed evidence of bias and conflicts of interest.
  
  You legally aren’t allowed to ignore that based on the defendant’s attitude.
  
  Not that the Swedish court cares. They’ll happily break their own laws in order to kowtow to the US/copyright industry. But the EU might care about Sweden breaking the European Convention assuming they aren’t 100% bribed by the MAFIAA.
Cestlavie

All those years of ignoring legal take-down requests, not policing your tracker site for illegal downloadable shit, posting legal take-down requests with fancy/cocky/astute responses for everybody to see finally paid off.

I dont feel sorry for this man, at all.
- Cestlavie
  
  to touch base on what I said:
  If TPB team didnt do all that cocky email response bullshit/actually responded to takedown requests, I’d start to feel bad, but clearly they tried WAYYY to hard to be fuckin’ “rebel’s”, so when that shit catches up to you, usually you end up earning your prison sentence. They thought they were to safe/on top of the world/smart for thinking they were outside US law when ICANN & most of the things that are pirated on the net COME FROM THE FUCKING US.
  - Cestlavie
    
    To touch base on this yet again: If files were illegally downloaded OUTSIDE THE US, files that originated/belong to offshore US countries, the US govt wouldnt give 2 fucks about “policing” that shit, but since every “pirate” or “warez” site out there is almost completely made up of shit that comes from US companies/corporations, obviously they wont just fuckin’ sit around and let that shit happen. If you think that would be the right course of action, you’re seriously a delusional idiot, that, or you know they’re “doing the right thing” but you’re against it because you dont wanna pay for anything and think not paying for other peoples work is totally fine/morally acceptable.
    
    What’s NOT okay is getting extradited, thats really where I’d draw the line, but thats such a grey area/i dont know more than thinking getting shipped off to another country like a sex doll to get abused for years then eventually thrown into a dumpster sounds pretty bleak.
    
    Just mah 2 cents.
  - Fredrika
    
    > “..usually you end up earning your prison sentence.”
    
    Again you clarify that you don’t give a shit about the law or if anyone has committed any actual crimes, you just feel that people that you subjectively dislike for their attitude should be punished.
    
    > “..when ICANN & most of the things that are pirated on the net COME FROM THE FUCKING US.”
    
    Which should have no relevance whatsoever in a civil society, because of a well established concept called jurisdiction. But you have already clarified that you don’t care about the law.
    - Cestlavie
      
      when did I say your attitude makes or breaks you? ACTIONS BRO, ACTIONS. Its really irritating when people try to pick apart/overthink everything you say on the net like you’re doing right now. You’re totally blowing everything im saying out or proportion to make yourself seem extremely smart/witty. Seriously, just stop.
    - Fredrika
      
      > “Its really irritating when people try to pick apart/overthink everything you say on the net like you’re doing right now.”
      
      Because you don’t like when someone points out what your own words actually mean?
      
      > “You’re totally blowing everything im saying out or proportion..”
      
      No, i’m trying to help you to understand what it is you’re actually saying, because i don’t think you do.
      
      > “..to make yourself seem extremely smart/witty. Seriously, just stop.”
      
      As long as you post illogical and irrational crap, i will help you by re-writing it, so you can understand what it was you actually wrote. If you don’t like it, think harder before you post or stop writing.
    - Guest
      
      Fredrika. You only care about the law that suits you as you see it. That makes you no different from the people who (with a legal judgement on their side) you accuse of having no regard for the law. Understand that not everyone is against you / corrupt / bought or bribed. It’s just that some people don’t feel the need to adapt a fantasy alternative reality to advance a cause or debate whereas you with your constant denial of the facts do. People disagree, it’s our nature to do so but all the ranting in the world by you or anyone else is meaningless if it is not based on the premise of factual accuracy but instead on opinion.
    - Fredrika
      
      > “You only care about the law that suits you as you see it.”
      
      What kind of accusation is that? From what that i wrote did you come to that conclusion? Do you think you could explain yourself, so that any actual argumentative substance emerges, to which i can then respond? As is is now, that was nothing but an empty accusation, and therefore a logical fallacy.
      
      > “That makes you no different from the people who (with a legal judgement on their side)..”
      
      You mean that judgement that was handed down by according to both the Swedish and European constitution biased judges?
      
      > “Understand that not everyone is against you / corrupt / bought or bribed. “
      
      When did i ever claim otherwise???? Another straw-man.
      
      > “It’s just that some people don’t feel the need to adapt a fantasy alternative reality to advance a cause or debate whereas you with your constant denial of the facts do.”
      
      When did i ever deny any fact????? Please, if you have the guts, quote any sentence from me where you believed that was the case, and i will help you read it properly, so that you understand what i actually wrote, and why there was no denial of facts in it. I dare you!!
      
      > “People disagree, it’s our nature to do so but all the ranting in the world by you or anyone else is meaningless if it is not based on the premise of factual accuracy but instead on opinion.”
      
      And in reality, where i live, unlike you apparently, every single claim from me is based on actual facts, and not opinions. Again, if you believe otherwise, please quote from me that text which you don’t find factual, and we will sort this out, because as it is now, the only thing you do is come up with empty meaningless accusations and logical fallacies. In other words text book trolling.
    - Guest
      
      “Logiac fallacy” this, “Logical fallacy” that. Get a life Peter, you’re going to jail. Deal with it.
    - Fredrika
      
      > “Get a life Peter, you’re going to jail. Deal with it.”
      
      He is dealing with the fact that the trials were unconstitutional and that the judges was were clearly biased according to both the Swedish and European constitution. Are you saying that people should accept unconstitutional trials and sentences handed down by biased judges?
    - Fagdrika
      
      @Fredrika I hope you realize how overly obnoxious you are with the these sort of replies. It’s like you’re TRYING to be annoying. Christ.
    - Fredrika
      
      > “I hope you realize how overly obnoxious you are with the these sort of replies. It’s like you’re TRYING to be annoying. Christ.”
      
      Clarifying facts, refuting incorrect claims, producing actual arguments and pointing out flaws in illogical line of reasoning’s is usually disliked by trolls and those who don’t want the facts to be brought to light. If those dishonest idiots find me annoying that would be a huge bonus.
      
      If someone dishonest like you, who apparently can’t produce any actual arguments or constructive criticism but only meaningless one-liners and personal attacks, find me annoying, that would also be a huge bonus.
      
      Thank you for encouraging me to write even more comments in the exact same manner as the previous ones.
  - Guest
    
    “They thought they were to safe”
    
    No. They no longer thought they were safe after the raid in 2006.
    
    They did think the Pirate Bay was safe, though.
    
    And they were right.
    
    What the trolls keep forgetting(okay, more like ignoring on purpose) is that the point of the trial wasn’t to send four Swedes to jail for roughly a year. The point was to shut down The Pirate Bay by convicting the people who ran it. Except by the time the trial rolled along none of the defendants had anything to do with TPB anymore so while the rigged political trial managed to convict them, it failed to combat piracy in any way. And for that it was an insanely epic fail.
    
    You can cheerlead for Sunde going to jail all you want but that doesn’t accomplish shit except for making you look like a dumbfuck.
- Fredrika
  
  > “All those years of ignoring legal take-down requests..”
  
  The moderators ignored legally baseless take-down requests regarding non-copyrighted material, to which the copyright holders had no right whatsoever. Peter ignored nothing, he was not a moderator, he was a spokesperson.
  
  > “..not policing your tracker site for illegal downloadable shit..”
  
  There were no illegal downloadable shit available on neither the Pirate Bay nor it’s trackers, only legal non-copyrighted torrents, and legal IP-addresses.
  
  > “..posting legal take-down requests with fancy/cocky/astute responses for everybody to see..”
  
  They were posted in a pedagogic manner to try to get the ignorant idiots that didn’t understand why their demands were legally baseless, that they completely incorrectly flooded Pirate Bay’s crew with. Their hope with ridiculing them publicly was to get the idiots to stop sending demands, and from what i understand, to some degree that actually worked.
  
  > “..finally paid off.
  
  I dont feel sorry for this man, at all.”
  
  You don’t feel sorry for a spokesperson that has committed no crime at all, being sentenced by according to the both Swedish and European constitution biased judges?
  
  In other words, you don’t give a shit about the law or society, or if any actual harm has been caused to anyone, you just want people that you subjectively dislike to be punished?
  - Cestlavie
    
    arguing with me probably wont work very well since its really not gonna change my mind. Yeah, if hes a spokesman, great, he had wise words for the masses, but he still worked with the piratebay team, and im not convinced that was his only role in working with the site.
    If “spokesman” was his ONLY role, then this punishment is obviously outlandish.
    - Fredrika
      
      > “arguing with me probably wont work very well since its really not gonna change my mind.”
      
      You mean you have made up your mind, and if the facts don’t match, you don’t care? In other words you’re admitting to being a troll?
      
      > “Yeah, if hes a spokesman, great, he had wise words for the masses, but he still worked with the piratebay team, and im not convinced that was his only role in working with the site.”
      
      So you still stand by your opinion that whether or not any crime has taken place is irrelevant, what’s relevant is your personal and subjective opinion, and if you’re not convinced people aren’t crooked, they deserve to get punished?
      
      > “If “spokesman” was his ONLY role, then this punishment is obviously outlandish.”
      
      So the fact that the judges according to both the Swedish and European constitution was biased is irrelevant? Being given a fair and constitutional trial is not relevant to if a punishment is outlandish or not?
    - IMForeman
      
      So in other words, guilty by association?
      American justice for you.
    - fluck fluck
      
      > arguing with me probably wont work very well since its really not gonna change my mind.
      
      So, basically, talking to you at all is pointless unless it’s regurgitating the lies you hear repeated on Fox News for long enough to believe them. Understood.
      
      Please crawl back into your armchair/the lap of Rupert Murdoch and content-thieving billionaires and die slowly in a place where you don’t interfere with conversations between people who have the capacity to reflect on and adjust their views based on factual information.
- Dirtyshits
  
  spot on-he deserves everything he is getting-I hope he gets a cock up his arse in prison aswell
  - Fredrika
    
    > “I hope he gets a cock up his arse in prison aswell”
    
    Copyright trolls do have a tendency to advocate rape. It doesn’t take them many seconds to disclose their inhuman despicable opinions.
    - Anon
      
      For the record, I also believe your vapid and reality-ignorant posts are constructed on a fantasy-land belief system that has little to do with how the laws actually work or are written. It’s all based on law Fredrika, and if Sunde had a case he’d be heard. God knows they’ve wasted enough time and money on that little putz grandstander. At this point he’s just wasting tax payer revenue. He doesn’t care.
      
      Oh, and it’s okay with me if he winds up the cellmate girlfriend of some huge guy named TINY. Peter Sunde deserves cellblock sexual satisfaction, too. And hopefully, he’ll get it. With that same retractable baton he loves to reference.
    - Fredrika
      
      > “For the record, I also believe your vapid and reality-ignorant posts are constructed on a fantasy-land belief system that has little to do with how the laws actually work or are written.”
      
      Another empty meaningless accusation. However, the reason you believe this is since you don’t live in reality, you live in a fantasy world, so when people post claims or argumentation that is reality based and correct, of course it seems unreal to you.
      
      You prove this every time when you are asked to point out what it is that you can’t accept as it is written, or believe to be incorrect, and then you always go completely quiet.
      
      > “It’s all based on law Fredrika..”
      
      Every single claim i put forward are based on actual laws, and i you like i can verify it or quote from the laws. Is there something which you would like me to do that with? Please speak up, if you dare. But we all know that’s not going to happen, because you are afraid of little girls.
      
      > “God knows they’ve wasted enough time and money on that little putz grandstander.”
      
      Every single penny spent on piracy is wasted, that is correct. Piracy just grows and grows and grows, and stopping any of it doesn’t make you any money, since piracy doesn’t cause harm in the first place.
      
      The only one’s that likes this wasting of money is the con artist collective known as the Mafiaa, who only make money as long as they can trick their funders into thinking that they can do any good, which they naturally can’t. Against piracy they are completely helpless.
      
      > “At this point he’s just wasting tax payer revenue. He doesn’t care.”
      
      Trust me, Peter cares a great deal about being convicted in an unconstitutional trial, by according to the Swedish and European constitution biased judges.
      
      As should every sane man who believes in civil liberties, democracy, human rights, due process and fair trials. You on the other hand have clarified on many occasions that you oppose all that.
      
      > “Oh, and it’s okay with me if he winds up the cellmate girlfriend of some huge guy named TINY.”
      
      Yes you do advocate rape of human beings. We all know that.
      
      > “Peter Sunde deserves cellblock sexual satisfaction, too.”
      
      Are you saying that you aren’t man enough to stand up for what you actually believe in and advocate, as in rape? You have to embellish it to have the guts to say it? Damn you are a coward.
      
      > “With that same retractable baton he loves to reference.”
      
      Peter in his role of former official spokesperson for Pirate Bay did not write that response, it was written by one of the moderators, but you don’t care to much about the facts, now do you?
    - Guest
      
      Hey Anon, for somebody who keeps saying Fredrika is “vapid” and “reality-ignorant” it sure is funny how you can never point out where she’s actually being vapid or reality-ignorant in her comments. Ever. Despite being asked to multiple times. Why is that?
      
      It’s almost like you’re lying. But that couldn’t be right, could it?
Omegalove

This faggot needs to stfu and accept his punishment like a grown up, he always has acted like a damn child.
- Guest
  
  So grown ups are ball-less cowards that just silently accept injustice and corruption?
  
  Fuck that. I’d rather act like a man than a grown up. Looks like Peter Sunde came to the same conclusion
- Dirtyshits
  
  spot on. He is a crybaby who thought he was above the law and now the law has spiked him right up his smug arse….Love it.
No Way Out!

It’s futile to go to the EU. It can only say whether Sweden has breached fundamental human rights of Sunde (which it has most certainly not). It can not overturn decisions by the Swedish courts. Sunde will have to serve his jail sentence or choose to live as a fugitive abroad.
- Scary_Devil_Monastery
  
  You mean as in when Wikileaks actually exposed the embassy cables pressuring Sweden to raid TPB, for instance?
  
  That IS sort of sidestepping the entire judicial process.
- When
  
  If Sweden have breached his human rights by refusing him the right to appeal on the grounds of evidential bias, then the ECHR can compel Sweden to allow his appeal or at the very least pay him compensation.
  - 1hhh1
    
    Nothing of what you say is actually true,he did appeal to their HIGHEST COURT and they rejected his appeal,that’s it,human rights does not come into this case at all.
    - Guest
      
      He appealed to the Supreme Court and they rejected his appeal and he can take his case to the European Court if he wishes to do if he has grounds to do so. If the European Court rejects his claim then that’s it game over for him but if they accept his appeal then it is for them to decide if Sweden had treated the case against him unlawfully and in a biased way. If they decide that his case was unlawfully dealt with being biased by judges etc by the evidence that is presented to them then they have the authority to tell Sweden what to do to correct it. Every person has human rights and receiving a fair and unbiased trial is one of those human rights.
  - Scary_Devil_Monastery
    
    Well…here are a few facts…
    
    1) The lead investigator was negotiating his new salary and employment with a main plaintiff in the case (Warner) at the same time he was running the investigation.
    
    2) The wikileaks embassy cables outright praise the swedish authorities for living up to the “agreement” concerning TPB.
    
    3) Added to number 2, the TPB raid was directly ordered by the then-minister of justice, Thomas Bodström. That is in itself a flagrant violation of swedish law. Ministers do not authorize and order criminal raids in civil cases, prosecutors do.
    
    4) The presiding judge was a long-time associate of the representatives of the plaintiff, and co-member in a number of copyright maximalist-oriented associations.
    
    5) The defendants were in essence not allowed a normal defense. The case mainly hinged on making them “accessories to enabling copyright infringement” which rendered much of their defense less relevant than if they had been directly implicated.
    
    6) And speaking of which, the sentence and damages awarded were handed down despite the fact that no effort in proving that copyright infringement had taken place, nor to what extent. The prosecution merely presented a dozen files, claimed these had been downloaded, and estimated the damages to 30 million SEK (~3 million Euro).
    
    The list goes on. In strict theory it is legal to run a trial this way in Sweden but it really means making the law jump through hoops. And it wouldn’t fly for a second in most other european nations. Or, for that matter, in the US. A constitutional judge would toss this trial out on it’s ear faster than he could swing the gavel.
Nono

He’s delusional if he thinks that the court of human rights if less corrupted than any other court in this world.
- Guest
  
  You have evidence that the court of human rights is corrupted?
- Violated0
  
  I would not say Sweden has done a good job in this case and if the EU Court agrees to hear his case then they have an established history of slapping about countries for their bad rulings.
  
  So the EU Justice system has always been the best hope he has when they would certainly pick and poke into Swedish authority failings. I have seen myself there is much in this case that should not have been including the evidence against Peter Sunde not being up to criminal standards.
Dondilly

The last thing he should have done is as for clemency from his persecutors. As for the advertising deals, unless they have his signature on docs, they have no proof. Surely his work on the code for the load balancer means nothing as the purpose and functionality is generic and could have been farmed out to anyone to work on.

As for the well founded complaints of corruption and conflicts of interest in the judiciary, he is never going to get an SE court no matter how high to admit and acknowledge that corruption. Judges are more interested in their own career progression than they are to the rights of defendants. If a judge were to publicly acknowledge corruption, rather than doing anything about it, the judiciary would close ranks for their own self interest and are more likely to ‘shoot the messenger’. Judges depending on level are appointed and promoted by their peers and immediate superiors until you get to the top of their food chain who are appointed or approved by the very politicians being lent on by washington. Sadly the EU courts are made up of judges under similar systems, the only reason there is more chance of justice at EU level in such cases is that the judges are nolonger ‘pissing in their own pool’.
- Scary_Devil_Monastery
  
  As Sunde himself states, he did not expect clemency. However, in order to raise a case with the EHCR he needs the documentation which states that the swedish state is denying him all venues of appeal and why.
  
  In short, the request for clemency is what he had to do pro forma.
FuckingTrolls

any body smell trolls? Your at a torrent news site Banging out somebody who dedicated his time to offer most if not all of us a free service? and Why is he getting busted? Because he offered links to stuff, like google. And yet u rag him and call him a bad man. STFU Trolls
- Gbgfrdcxresgesg
  
  you use the term “troll” way to loosely. Idiot
  - When
    
    You use the term idiot completely inappropriately. Troll.
  - Guest
    
    ^ trolls hate it when you point out that they’re trolls.
Sapphire_scales8686

OMG SOMEONE STOLE PENNIES FROM MILLIONAIRES! BETTER FUCK UP HIS LIFE

fuck the world
- Dirtyshits
  
  It is not just millionaires though you fucktard-You people rip anything off and hurt anyone and don’t care about anything except for your own greed and over inflated sense of self entitlement.
  fuck yall.
  - ItSuckDoesItIt
    
    “It is not just millionaires though you fucktard-You people rip anything off and hurt anyone and don’t care about anything except for your own greed and over inflated sense of self entitlement.
    fuck yall.”
    
    What you said actually applies pretty good to the MAFIAA they did rip Edison’s invention when they started, them they ripped their customers and artists working for them and now they are trying to rip the whole world
  - Scary_Devil_Monastery
    
    It’s interesting to note that you are willing to advocate violence for people who have an opinion but somehow believe that copying a file is somehow inexcusable in comparison.
    
    I believe the term we have to use for you is “hypocrite” – for a start.
    
    Or, given your name, just a troll out to vent his spleen on his most recent fotm.
Anonymous

and the obvious reasons why the appeal has been rejected?
a) the influence of the US entertainment industries on the bought and paid for Swedish government and legal system
b) they know that what has happened to him was done out of bias and that there were evidential issues.

no way are they gonna admit to either or allow investigations if they can be stopped. as for the EUCHR, he will be rejected there as well, simply to protect what has happened in Sweden and the EU move to partner the USA on copyright and ‘piracy’ issues. the EU is fast becoming another USA ‘bitch’ just grabbing ankles when told, ready to receive another severe shafting!
the other worrying thing is that when bias and evidential problems occur in a criminal trial, they are addressed by having a re-trial. not doing the same in copyright trial is taking the piss!
- 1hhh1
  
  He’s guilty,,they’ll,the EU court,will politely refuse to hear this case.
  - Guest
    
    You have evidence that the EU court will refuse to hear the case?
- MadAsASnake
  
  The EU has a habit of rejecting Copyright BS – remember what happened to SOPA?
steve

No wonder Assange doesn’t want to go to Sweden to face trial…
- Scary_Devil_Monastery
  
  For the record Assange probably should face trial, or at least investigation.
  
  However, Sweden simply isn’t trustworthy. We already have a proven record of shipping people the US finds “inconvenient” to terrible places without so much as a hearing.
  - MadAsASnake
    
    Simple look at the bank accounts of the accusers would be interesting…
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      I doubt it. Although the judiciary has embarrassed itself with flip-flops and ridiculously bad investigation all over this case, the case is pretty clear:
      
      Assange may have ignored a “no”.
      
      The ladies in question may be have been driven by anger at perceived infidelity to use a convenient law in order to get even.
      
      That in itself renders a rape investigation necessary. The problem isn’t the case itself. It’s how it has been handled at literally all levels of the judiciary involved. And of course, there is a clear and present danger that if Assange does become extradited to Sweden, he won’t even get as far as the courtroom before they ship him off to a detention facility conveniently placed beyond the reach of any law.
- When
  
  …because the Swedish are already lining up his extradition to the US.
  - Scary_Devil_Monastery
    
    That would be my guess. in order to be extradited from the UK the UK actually needs to hear the US has a criminal case against him. If the US does have such a case then Assange falls under US law and constitutional protection when he is extradited.
    
    Sweden however, has repetitively extradited foreign nationals to third-world hellholes without needing either suspicion or a criminal case. The most obvious case being the two egyptians who were suddenly blindfolded, gagged, equipped with adult diapers, trussed like hogs and driven to Bromma Airport where a few american gentlemen escorted them onto a special chartered plane straight to egypt where they were both incarcerated and tortured.
    
    And this happened without any claim other than a quick call made by the US embassy to the swedish minister of justice at the time, Anna Lind.
    
    So Assanges chances in Sweden? He’d be better off in any other nation, literally, than Sweden for his trial. Five minutes on Swedish soil, he gets shipped off as an “enemy combatant” without any rights accorded by the US constitution or the UN statutes.
- Hogspace
  
  Precisely so.
  As with the UK and the USA (and NZ) the executive is now prepared to use the Security and Secret Services to steamroller legal Due Process and other protections of law. Just as long as it isn’t something people do not riot about.
  In Sweden they can even knobble the Supreme Court it seems.
  
  If the UK hadn’t intervened against Nazi germany and you lived in their regime now, would it be much different, 72 years down the line?
  
  You have to hand it to the islamists in Europe, they have the same forces on the back foot, fearful of riots and retribution killings. Apparently it’s the only thing they now “understand”.
- http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater
  
  That’s because he’s afraid of a fair trial.
  - Guest
    
    No the opposite for your information,
  - http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell
    
    Just ignore nejtillpirater. He’s a paid corporate troll by his past posts.
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      I don’t even think he’s being paid which makes it very sad. He’s a known anti-pirate troll who’s been spamming pirate forums under multiple nicks for the last four years or so.
      
      Usually his posts are longer but he may finally have realized that he seems unable to avoid contradicting himself if he writes more than three sentences in one go…
  - Scary_Devil_Monastery
    
    No, historical precedence actually provides the empirical fact that a fair trial nearly guarantees Assange walks away a free man. This is usually the case where word stands against word alone.
    
    This Assange knows very well.
    
    Sweden does however have a tradition in shipping off people the US wants shipped off to third-world hellholes without any need for extradition treaties or formal requests. And this is what Asange is rightly afraid off, given that powerful politicians in the US have called for his execution.
    
    You, however, are as afraid of factual discourse as usual.
    - http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater
      
      “No, historical precedence actually provides the empirical fact that a fair trial nearly guarantees Assange walks away a free man.”
      
      If he’s guilty, he should NOT walk away as a free man after a fair trial.
      
      “Sweden does however have a tradition in shipping off people the US wants shipped off to third-world hellholes without any need for extradition treaties or formal requests”
      
      Tradition? Like this has happened hundreds or thousands of times, deliberately? Now give us the long list of all those cases to prove that this “tradition” exists.
      
      I’m sure that you can back this up with a VERY long list. Or, however, are you afraid of or incapable of a factual discourse?
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      “If he’s guilty, he should NOT walk away as a free man after a fair trial.”
      
      And if he is not he should. In any word-against-word confrontation in a court, it usually means the defendant carries the day.
      
      As it should since the law clearly assumes innocence until guilt is proven. I know you’ve had trouble realizing that salient fact before.
      
      “Tradition? Like this has happened hundreds or thousands of times, deliberately? Now give us the long list of all those cases to prove that this “tradition” exists.”
      
      Would you like this list back to the baltic extraditions or would you settle for the time during the second world war when Sweden explicitly made a deal with nazi germany to guarantee and protect, by military force, the “prisoner transports” to and from Norway over swedish soil during the second world war?
      
      Or would you settle only for the specific times where Sweden has explicitly delivered foreign nationals to what the swedish government knew beyond a doubt was torture and incarceration after any specific date?
      
      I’m only asking because there is indeed one period, lasting a few decades, where Sweden did not practice what we could call “extraordinary rendition”.
      
      Kindly name a time frame, because otherwise it will be a long long list indeed.
  - tetridae
    
    No, it’s because Sweden has foreign policy of licking americkan buttholes. See, I could do that all in one line?
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Chronoss2008

the guy wanted to host on prq what child molestation advicacy group again as free speech and you ask me why i care that the guy should rot in some cell? NO really TF get a new set a heros these guys are not helping you and making you look like sickos.
- Guest
  
  Go take your ranting up with the police I am sure they will care more about you then those on here!
- Scary_Devil_Monastery
  
  Once again, you only demonstrate that you in fact do not know the importance of even sick people being allowed their own forums.
  
  Their free speech is our immunization which is what free speech is all about. In the world you’d like to live in, paedo’s ply their sick “hobby” undisturbed, forgotten band conveniently covered away by society’s unwillingness to look at what they’re saying in private circles.
  
  You are simply being a “useful idiot” for active paedophiles, Chronos.
TinWooo

Stupid kangaroo court is a joke!
http://www.in-anon.tk
http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater

Peter Sunde’s plea for pardon was rejected by the Swedish government September 27.

http://www.sydsvenskan.se/kultur–nojen/sundes-nadeansokan-avslogs/

Now he must do the time for his crime.
- Guest
  
  When will the corrupt judges do their time for violating Swedish anti-bias law and the Swedish Constitution? Or for somehow producing a guilty verdict even though the prosecutors failed to prove their case? When will the Supreme Court do their time for turning a blind eye to this?
  
  An innocent man is convicted while the real criminals walk free. As usual.
  
  There’s still the European Court of Human Rights which, if it’s fucking remotely interested in doing its job, will rule in Sunde’s favour. Or have your MAFIAA bosses made sure that won’t happen?
  - http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater
    
    “An innocent man is convicted while the real criminals walk free. As usual.”
    
    He’s not innocent.
    
    “There’s still the European Court of Human Rights which, if it’s fucking remotely interested in doing its job, will rule in Sunde’s favour.”
    
    Actually ECHR cannot change the sentence, only make advisory recommendations regarding compensation in the unlikely event that his human rights have been violated, probably several years after serving his time in jail.
    - Guest
      
      If the ECHR deals with his appeal and they find that there has indeed been biased and unlawfulness with his case from the evidence that is presented to them then they could find that Sweden have committed an unlawful act in doing what they did with the case and give instruction to rule that the conviction was unsafe, They could instruct Sweden to award compensation. There have been a couple of cases here in UK that have been taken to the European Court and they have found that the conviction and verdict have been unsafe and they have instructed the UK to quash the conviction to which the UK have done. If they can instruct the UK to rule the conviction and verdict unsafe then they could well instruct Sweden to rule the conviction unsafe. Why should Sweden get away with something when the UK can’t.
    - http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater
      
      @Guest
      
      “If the ECHR deals with his appeal and they find that there has indeed been biased and unlawfulness with his case from the evidence that is presented to them then they could find that Sweden have committed an unlawful act in doing what they did with the case and give instruction to rule that the conviction was unsafe, They could instruct Sweden to award compensation.”
      
      Correct but extremely unlikely according to my opinion.
      Anyway, the appeal will not stop him from going to jail, only provide compensation some years after having served his time.
    - Guest
      
      @nejtillpirater “Correct but extremely unlikely according to my opinion.”
      
      Your opinion is NOT the decision the of the European Court. It is not for you to decide if he is guilty or not or whether Swedens justice system is corrupt or not but that of the European Court and no amount of you stating that he is guilty will make any difference to what the European Court decides or not.
      
      As for compensation. If he does goes to prison and he is found to have been vindicated by the European Court then it is for them to instruct compensation if needs be and of course no doubt the Swedish tax payer will be the one having to pay for it.
    - http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater
      
      @Guest
      
      “Your opinion is NOT the decision the of the European Court. It is not for you to decide if he is guilty or not or whether Swedens justice system is corrupt or not but that of the European Court and no amount of you stating that he is guilty will make any difference to what the European Court decides or not.”
      
      Rather obvious, isn’t it?
      
      Don’t you know the meaning of a personal opinion, as I stated very clearly?
    - Predator
      
      “Your opinion is NOT the decision the of the European Court.”
      
      No but once we are done with your corporate boss the decision of any fucking court will no longer matter. Hey! Their choice, not our. They did not have to do this. After all we are still for the death penalty.
    - Guest
      
      “He’s not innocent.”
      
      Prove it.
      
      The prosecution couldn’t. Can you?
Who

ok what every body is FAILING to realize is the FACT that TPB is still in operation.
so IF this is IN FACT about COPYRIGHT infringing….then Y is file sharing STILL @ large? Y have they let file sharing go for this long? Y are they NOT suing EACH up-loader/down loader? its because it ALL a BIG load of HORSE SHIT!
maryhinge

a hot potato is yet again passed from one place to another quicker than a hot bag of dog mess……until it reaches its final destination….the European courts. ahem!! here is how it will pan out. a lengthy period of time shall pass….the case will be heard……the result will come……2014….he will be released without serving a sentence because he will have been in custody for the equivalent of the sentence he would have received had he been found guilty………
Guest

There is no justice if you don’t have money to pay the judges.
Predator

Let’s terminate all the executive of the 7 major corporations of entertainment executives and burn down all of their studios. This is the only way left to get justice.

And also let’s terminate all of these fucking judges supreme or not involved in this crime against justice and freedom. That will deter others from following.

Sometime you have to do what you have to do man and put the ball to do it.
- Anon
  
  Another internet talker. lol Pirates are assholes. Aren’t they?
  - Guest
    
    Says the anonymous internet moron who does nothing but talk smack he can’t back up.
  - Scary_Devil_Monastery
    
    “lol Pirates are assholes. Aren’t they?”
    
    That, coming from a person who advocates RAPE as a suitable punishment for making a copy of a file?
    
    I think you need to work on your rhetoric. I haven’t seen you utter one single comment at any time in which you did not simultaneously manage to engineer the destruction of your entire argument.
Guest

If only Peter Sunde were a Banker and had stolen billions he would be ok.
FuckingTrolls

The Funny thing is that the big music companys have been ripping of the talent for years. Oh and does any of the reclaimed Revenu go back to the artists? No OF course not.It goes back to filling fat cats pockets. Oh and paying u trolls to bag out us
HustleHard

I honestly don’t remember cuz there’s been so much go on since this started but didn’t he NOT show up for trail? if that’s the case I don’t feel sorry for him one bit as he had the chance to do what he’s trying now.
An0nYm0u5

If the EU court and Justice system do not help you… the internet will.
Guest

If Peter Sunde and his legal advisor had done their homework they would know that him asking for a retrial and getting a no is not sufficient for the European Court of Human Right to hear his case. The Court will declare his complaints inadmissible on grounds that he did not lodge them within 6 months of the Swedish Supreme Court’s decision on the matter. And I mean the Supreme Court’s decision in the original case. The European Court of Human Rights is very strict with the formalities. When the 6 month timelimit is gone, its gone. Making a request for a retrial will not help him in any way.

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The Pirate Bay Isn’t Down Completely, Just Having a Few Issues

Pirate Bay Founder Gottfrid Svartholm on Freedom of Speech

Blu-ray Anti-Piracy Tech Stops Discs and Promotes Purchases

Foxtel Breeds Pirates by Locking Up Game of Thrones

UK Student Admits Breaching Sony Copyrights With Leak of PS3 SDK

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Pirate Bay Takes Over Distribution of Censored 3D Printable Gun

McAfee Patents Technology to Detect and Block Pirated Content

Pirate Bay Finds Safe Haven in Iceland, Switches to .IS Domain

Copyright Trolls Threaten to Call Neighbors of Accused Porn Pirates

The Pirate Bay Moves to .SX as Prosecutor Files Motion to Seize Domains

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