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Tech News Sites Tout Misleading BitTorrent Piracy Study

A new study has been making the rounds, concluding that only 0.3% of all files available on BitTorrent are confirmed to be ‘legal’. The results of the study were promoted by anti-piracy outfit AFACT and have been picked up by several news outlets, including Ars Technica and ZDNet, who all failed to see that the report is bogus.

Every so often a new study surfaces that attempts to describe the BitTorrent landscape. Yesterday a study by the Internet Commerce Security Laboratory (ICSL) was publicized (pdf) and the researchers found that only 0.3% of all torrents were confirmed legal. Good enough for a catchy headline, but how accurate is the study really?

Unfortunately, the results of these type of studies are pushed by anti-piracy outfits and taken for granted by outsiders, even by respected news outlets on the Internet such as Ars Technica and ZDNet. In this case their reporters were completely taken in by the report.

Just a few minutes into reading the study we were shaking our heads here at the TorrentFreak headquarters. Mistake after mistake is made in the report and conclusions are drawn based on painfully inaccurate data and methodologies. We’ll lay out the most critical errors below, which represent just the tip of the iceberg.

The study aims to answer four questions. We will state each question and indicate what’s wrong with the answers.

1. How many files are shared using BitTorrent and what are the categories of shared files?

ICSL claims that there are slightly more than a million torrent files to be found online, according to data obtained from 17 BitTorrent trackers this spring. They further come up with an overview of categories where applications account for 2.3% of all torrents, while movies and TV-shows are good for more than 70%.

Both conclusions are horribly wrong.

We’re not sure how the researchers came up with the one million torrents because the OpenBitTorrent tracker, which is included in their sample, reports it has 2,5 million torrents alone. In addition, sites such as isoHunt index over 5 million unique torrents. Needless to say, ICSL’s data collection methods are far from accurate.

An even bigger flaw is found in the categorization process. The categories are not based on the entire set of torrents, but only on the most-seeded ones, which heavily skews the data. Books and applications generally have a lower seed count than movie and TV-shows which means that they are underrepresented in the category overview.

2. At a given point in time, how much sharing of files is actually occurring using BitTorrent?

“For the trackers that we scraped, we recorded a minimum of 117,420,061 current seeds. This value is calculated by determining the highest available seeder count for each torrent from any tracker that was scraped,” the researchers answer in their report.

Again this is figure is bogus, but this time it’s wrong on the other end of the scale. As will become clear later in our analysis, the researchers have made a critical mistake by including various trackers that report false seed counts. We had to chuckle when we saw 2-year-old torrents with more than a million seeders in their report. The real seed count at any given time lies between 10 and 20 million.

3. For each shared file, how many times has it been shared in total?

Here’s where the researchers make total fools out of themselves. In their answer to the question they refer to a table of the top 10 most seeded torrents. As noted before, the most seeded file was uploaded nearly two years ago (The Incredible Hulk) and has a massive 1,112,628 seeders. The torrent in 10th place is not doing bad either with 277,043 seeds. All false data.

Top 10 of Fake Torrents?

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We’re not sure where these numbers originate from but the best seeded torrent at the moment only has 13,739 seeders, that’s 1% of what the study reports. Also, the fact that the release is nearly two years old should have sounded some alarm bells. It appears that the researchers have pulled data from a bogus tracker, and it wouldn’t be a big surprise if all the torrents in their top 10 are actually fake.

4. Overall, what is the number and percentage of shared files which are infringing, both by number of files and total downloads?

Here the researchers conclude that 97.9% of all files on BitTorrent are copyright infringing, and only 0.3% confirmed ‘legal’. Based on our previous conclusions it is hard to believe that these figures are even remotely accurate, and they aren’t. There are too many flaws in the methodology to list here, but for one this statistic is grossly inaccurate because it’s based on the most popular files, of which many are fake.

The researchers should have at least tried to determine the percentage of infringing files on their whole (inaccurate) dataset instead of the most seeded ones (of which many are fake). We’re not trying to argue that the majority of the torrents are legit, but the selection of torrents and sources is extremely biased towards discovering copyright infringing torrents.

To back this up, we only have to take a look at isoHunt. According to isoHunt their site indexes 5,451,959 unique torrent files, and 85,457 of these come from Jamendo, a site that publishes only Creative Commons licensed music. So that’s already 1.5% torrents that can be shared legally, without mentioning any Linux distros.

Bottom line is that this ‘Academic’ paper is one of the most inaccurate reports we’ve seen thus far, and the mainstream tech media either didn’t spend long reading the report or simply didn’t have the specialist knowledge to read the results and come to their own conclusions. Even worse, the Australian anti-piracy outfit AFACT will probably use this ‘credible’ report in court to convince the court that the local ISP iiNet responsible for the copyright infringements of its customers.

Let’s hope that Ars and others will update their reports accordingly.

Update: They did..!

We’ve contacted Paul Watters, one of the researchers, for a comment but haven’t heard back from him yet.

Update: Watters replied to me, stating that he stands by his findings. He ignored all questions and offered to send a copy of a statistics manual instead. Since I taught statistics and research methods to PhD students myself, I kindly declined his offer.

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  • matthew

    you’ve contacted the various news sites as well?

  • Wighar

    Not surprised tbh, hiring researchers with no prior experience or that are biased to the dying copyright movement will make failures and/or provide false data.

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  • John

    Being a researcher myself, I have to take sympathy with these guys. I doubt they where siding with and pro-copyright organization. They just made the mistake of trusting tracker statistics.

    As TF mentions, a two year old film being number 1 should have rung some alarm bells… but even so, I’d very much like to hear what Paul Watters has to say about this…

    Anyway, I’m currently downloading the Yes Men’s video, so 100% of my torrent traffic is currently legal.
    I know my sample isn’t exactly perfect, but i’d say it’s just as off as the reports.
    Would any journal fancy publishing my results? “100% of all torrent traffic is legal” ?

  • politux

    I love it when people who know nothing about BitTorrent publish utter tripe.

  • Anonymous

    “dying copyright movement”

    geez…

  • Anonymous

    This probably doesn’t include various online games that use bittorrent for their distribution either, such as WoW, but especially a lot of the new f2p (p2win) online games.

  • Poo Poo

    Yeah too bad the RIAA and the MPAA and their own members are not making mention of their own scamming add nauseum:

    They are shitbags – and that is all they are.

    http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100708/02510310122.shtml

    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-disney-20100708,0,4051564.story

    http://www.helium.com/items/1891205-harry-potter-return-of-the-jedi-and-lotr-all-reported-to-lose-money

  • Justin

    Are Technica reported that a sampling of 1000 files was taken and each was verified by a human.

    Still not accurate (because of tracker selection) but it proves that your opinions on the files being fake are incorrect.

    I’m as much against the anti piracy nuts as the next guy, but please read the studies before posting news about them.

  • MissedMemories

    Bittorent is way too big to make an study, has many torrents about the same thing and isn’t that centralized..

    That does tell us is hard to be accurate.

    And, as mentioned by #6, what about those games that use bittorent (DNA) for distribution?..

    It’s simply wrong from the very beginning.

  • me

    I am sure they are well aware that these results are incorrect, infact it would not suprise me atall if those that conducted the research were instructed to manipulate the data to give the result they wanted whilst still appearing correct to anyone having a casual glance at the report.

  • anonymous

    seems to me that people are missing the main point. this is another study instigated by the copyright industries and the figures released are the made up ones they want people to see. if the truth was released, there would be all sorts of crap flying about, that is why most independent studies never see the light of day. i am surprised, however, that Ars Technica etc didn’t do their homework before making themselves look stupid! no bribery here, surely?

  • Anonymous

    @8 – Justin

    TorrentFreak – “Just a few minutes into reading the study”

    They read the study, not the news company’s summary. Please read the article before posting news about them.

  • bitsnoop.com

    Obviously such “researchers” have trouble finding their own buttocks when they need to go take a dump.

    http://bitsnoop.com/stats/ – at the moment of writing there’re almost 5.6 million uniqie torrents we’ve indexed, with 3.1 million torrents “active” (seeded/leeched).

    It’s not a rocket science to gather this sort of statistics, all this data is available online for collection.

    Ars Technica and ZDNet showed their utter incompetence yet again.

  • Lucky Man

    I think these researchers were hired to make fake generated of torrent statics. they probably look old top 10, 20, 50, 100 of torrent statics then made it look like legal reports. it not like they spent lot of times on bittorrent because nobody can use bittorrent like 24 hours a day. because it been like that for years so they just became researcher and talking about what they think or know what they doing? don’t think so… well all ppl who are researchers, antipiracy retards need to get new job because they are about to go out of business because they waste lot of money on useless methods…

  • Honest bob

    I read a similar piece a few hours ago, linked from slashdot, made many of the same points.

    http://ktetch.blogspot.com/2010/07/ars-forgets-how-torrents-work-cites.html

  • Whatever

    You should contact iiNet with your findings to see their reaction.

    Any ‘research’ by MAFIAA ‘scientists’ (LOL) is always in preperation for some kind of action. In this case its even too obvious what their plan is.

  • Ano

    “concluding that only 0.3% of all files available on BitTorrent are confirmed to be ‘legal’.”

    I guess they got that number by doing: “In the music / movie industry, a researcher concluded that only 0.3% of all movies / albums available to be scammed on are confirmed to be utter crap”.

    Didn’t they based their number on that?

  • duane

    Nice article Ernesto!

    IIRC they chose 1000 torrents out of what they THOUGHT were “the most popular” and extrapolated what they found to millions of torrents.

    It’s like asking 10 random people in France what food they like and extrapolating the answers to the rest of the world.

  • Classic
  • Whatever

    @those who believe it was done by researchers/scientists.

    Did you forget the fake experts from the tabacco industry in the past ? (disguised through various companies and organisations)

    I am not even going to try (or may not have the means) to check if those researchers or scientists are real because it is very likely they are fake/marketeers. There are whole institutions now to buy ‘positive’ reports from. Even countries buy those (and change/remove things they dont like). There are a lot of people using a title nowadays. Some actually have a title, in a total different field like archeology, but need some money so they do a study of filesharing.

    Here in NL i already have seen a degree/title for most stupid subjects (a degree in copyrights!?) passing by in the news for some expert opinion.

    Any statistical study should be taken like any commercial that says that 1 of 3 persons have some disease that they can fix with some soap.

  • Mike

    Your biggest complaint is they took popular torrents, and popular torrents are more commonly pirated? Doesn’t that just prove the point that the most active torrenters aren’t online for legal content?

    This article is weak.

  • duane

    @21 Mike

    No, it doesn’t prove anything. You could easily make a similar point that the most active internet users are also pirates.

    What is brought into question here is not whether there are more illegal than legal torrents (a given), it’s the dodgy methodology and the made up numbers.

    They are probably trying to send a message to the Australian government to ban the entire Bittorrent protocol.

    With the same methodology, you could show that 97% of internet traffic is illegal, and ask the government to ban the internet…

    The Australian government has proved itself to be quite fickle when it comes to internet policy, and I wouldn’t put it past them if they started banning entire protocols to “protect the children”!

  • Anonymous
  • harry krishna

    zd (ziff davis) is the slut of technical publishing. their in-depth publishing is about 1mm. their readers are marketing types who want to pick up some buzzwords, but don’t know jack about the product.

  • anon2

    the people that believe these false reports are the same idiots that vote on our behalf on whether laws should be introduced or not, based on this type of misinformation. they then give speeches about how bad file sharing is for the various industries and the economy in general, when in actual fact, they know nothing other than what they have been brainwashed into believing. when those people have been paid to do things in a certain way, you can guess the outcome. such a shame that nothing matters more than a bank balance.

  • ali3nx

    Did my part and corrected slashdot at least :)

    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1730670&cid=33013928

  • PirateDave

    I used to work in government and my boss asked me to get some ‘facts’ for him, so, I worked very hard on the study and brought him back the finished product.

    He said, “Those aren’t the results I want–do it again.”

    So I did–and he was very happy with the ‘new results’.

    And a week later I quit.

    You don’t need to tell me about these studies…

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  • Anonymous

    The entire industry of entertainment parasites are illegal and all their executives should be put to jail.

    Once they are in jail they will stop polluting our networks with their craps!

  • Anonymous

    is it the type of study that found the weapon of mass destruction in Iraq?

  • zak

    shouldn’t it be 3.1% instead of 0.3% if there are 97.9% illegal torrents? Three percent and a third of a percent are kinda different…

  • Mr.Q

    Did anyone else notice that 5 of the torrents listed where by aXXo?

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  • Anonymous

    “Are Technica reported that a sampling of 1000 files was taken and each was verified by a human.”

    These corporate parasites are tap worm. They are not human.

    How could they have anything verified by humans? They can not even talk any human languages.

    Gee!

  • osama

    legal = 5%

    backup = 95%

  • vintage

    usually companies like Ars Technica and ZDNet are paied to publish thing like these. and usually they are own by the very people that want to put out error for the people to serve their purpose.

    the sad thing is people trust and will beleive any thing from thses companies with out reason.

  • Ballarata

    Australian university making schoolboy errors – not world class, oh dear! Although I believe the Ballarat region has a history of digging for gold…

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  • RIAAtarded

    Really someone needs to make this illegal to release such nonsense. If they were making that claims about a product you could buy spouting crap like that they would end up in court for false advertising. This garbage looks like they used a magic 8-ball and a random number generator to interpret the data.

  • Anonymous

    Fucking thieves… Who is really stealing?! The ones GIVING to the people or the ones TAKING from and LYING to the people!!?!?

  • Your Attention Please.

    Everyone read #27 again. xD

    Be skeptical ppl, it’s amazing how they pulled this misinfo out of their ass.

  • Jack Grahl

    I have only started reading this ‘study’ but it looks pretty weak. The first citation is a story on torrentfreak:
    http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-still-king-of-p2p-traffic-090218/
    this citation is given as evidence that 43% of internet traffic is bittorrent protocol. can you see that figure anywhere on the page?
    if this was a serious study they would have cited the original research by ipoque, not the bittorrent study, and explained how exactly they got that figure.

  • ~tL

    So uh… I have a new point of view.

    These facts may have been leaked… but did you stop to think that those numbers are their torrents? Hosted on a public/private tracker hosted by the lovely people in charge.

    Or perhaps this assessment is bogus, which also is a very big possibility. Either they are showing all the people being targeted, or a dummy is in charge.

    ~tL

  • bootytape.com

    I could tell something was wrong when they put that only 3.7% of torrents are pornographic in nature. If only there was more games than adult content the internet would be a more kid friendly place.

  • Kaptain Krunch

    Those greedy bastards will never quit with their futile agenda will they?

  • huh? wait… waht?

    @ 37:

    the internet doesnt need to be a more kid friendly place. it wasn’t made for kids.. sure they can use it, but lets not get carried away.

    personally, i am sick of all the kid oriented stuff in this world. it seems that too many movies with potential are dumbed-down for the ignorant adults and kidded-up for the sheeple families. its no wonder hollywood crap is crap.

    thats one of the few reasons i like tarentino’s stuff; he seems to know how to make a movie a story, and not really make it for ‘target audiences’. he just does it the way he wants..

    all that was off-topic, and i apologize.

    clearly these reports are, and will always be, complete lies, skewed towards the “agenda of the day”!

    yawn

  • mark

    1,112,628 seeders

    Haha, that’s hilarious!

  • Anonymous

    So when you ONLY look at isohunt the creative commons files only make up 1.5% of “legal” files? Not counting Linux distros you say? So let’s be generous and say 10% of files are legal ONLY on isohunt, a site that has legal files uploaded as an extra feature they call Jamendo or something. I’m a member or many private trackers for the soul purpose of downloading copywrites files. (I’m a big enough man to admit it) and I would agree that less then 1% of files on these trackers are “legal” so while the process of getting these numbers are messed up, the end justifies the means. True. Any downloader that browses his trackers can’t deny that the majority is “illegal” and that’s just the way I like it.

    Can we please stop this lazy reporting? Yes bittorrent is an excellant way to share files, legal or not. Yes it is encoraged that more people use it as a distribution method. Yes we are all guilty of “illegal downloading”. Can we PLEASE move out of the denial phase, admit we use this power for evil, and move towards building a legal system where the people are in control instead of the labels?

    The sooner we are willing to admit we are breaking the law, the sooner they realize that they can’t arrest the entire world. Torrentfreak is not helping with biased reporing that belongs more in celebrity tabloids then a respectable news blog.

    Grow up. The world may follow.

  • m3__2

    @31vintage “usually companies like Ars Technicaand ZDNet are paid to publish thing like these.”

    I dunno if this assestment is correct but from my experience with Ars, I gave 3 legitimate helpful commments when they did an article about some people being sued and I gave reference of where to go to and what you should do and I got banned for spam. I used a username like mafiaasucks so this may also be the case as my comment was deleted & my username was banned.

  • John

    Email of the person who did this study:

    p.watters@ballarat.edu.au

    Shame on him.
    Express your rants to him.

  • inaccurate

    This article makes a huge inaccurate statement of it’s own!

    Number 3 states “Here’s where the researchers make total fools out of themselves.”, after they already made total fools out of themselves in number 1 & 2 :P

  • anon

    found this as a sublink from one related article:

    http://www.iinet.net.au/press/releases/20100422-hollywood-dreams.pdf

    from here where torrentz is attirbuted: http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/354286/university_study_89_bittorrent_illegal/

    interesting read

  • Anonymous

    Ridiculing your opponent does nothing in the “grown up” world. If you want things to change, first admit to your own faults and educate your opponents on your views. Calling them the MAFFIA on a one sided “news” blog does nothing to help your cause and only makes you look like children.

  • tl8

    Funny you should say this

    http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/354286/university_study_89_bittorrent_illegal/

    This article released on Friday says 11% of torrents are legal

  • mike

    The full results were 0.3% confirmed legal, 89% were confirmed illegal, and 11% were ambiguous.

    Sounds about right to me.

  • stick in your eye

    @46:

    “If you want things to change, first admit to your own faults and educate your opponents on your views.”

    when did doing this ever do anything for anybody??? maybe you should take your own advice, take off the blinders, and grow up. join us in the real world, if you like. if not? we really dont need your kind mucking things up for the rest of us. that is exactly why we are where we are. ignorant people with ignorant ideas spreading ignorance.

  • Dr. Bit

    I can confirm that only 0.2% of all torrents were confirmed illegal :)
    The rest are just not confirmed yet.
    But it has been confirmed that the AFACT are 100% idiots!

  • Thomas

    The report says it’s based on info provided by torrentz.com (page 10, middle of the page)

  • Pasta and Sauce Statistics

    mmm…I’m hungry.

    I think I will make some pasta and sauce.

    Combined and considering the RDA daily value, they make up….

    5% fat
    0% saturated fat
    0% trans fat
    0% cholesterol
    23% sodium
    18% carbohydrates
    16% dietary fiber
    15% vitamin A
    12% iron
    2% calcium
    30% thiamin
    15% riboflavin
    20% niacin
    25% folate

    But I tell you, it all adds up to be 100% yummy!

    Yawn.

    Keep seeding people.

  • QuadSlacker1313

    WE ARE ALL YES MEN

  • QuadSlacker1313

    Today, we are all yes-men.

    Let us continue seeding… but if a file has over a milion seeders, maybe there’s a more deserving one or two seeder file that needs your attention.

  • ddv

    Recent research has shown that 0.3% of the mafiaa people were straight and the rest of the 99.7% confirmed gay

  • basalt

    We all know what torrent is is used and we all can use trackers and search engines and everything and we have a GOOD feel for the REAL numbers since we all pay 20 or 30 or 40 or 50 dollars a month for a high speed internet line.

    I could easily drop my internet cost in half if I would take a slower line. But I don’t and many won’t. And many won’t stop buying terabyte hds for all their “data” requirements (some even have already two, three, four external drives. It will never stop.)

    Some people want to have numbers, want to play politics or change the course of discussion. While others simply want to be left alone with their selected lifestyle scouring the bottom of the net, behind that little magic box that IS THEIR LIFE and will be _LIFE_ for so many years to come.

    I don’t understand why groups of people can’t left other groups of people alone. There are so many other problems in the world.

  • Anonymous

    @50
    “Ridiculing your opponent does nothing in the “grown up” world.”

    You are right. We have to kill them all, these corporates parasites and their lawyers.

  • Anonymous

    What a pack of liars!

    But we are used to it by now. What’s new?

  • Ninja

    wow, that’s so damn flawed I dunno where to start bashing MAFIAA here lol

    what is worse, somewhat famous news outfits swallowing it all. i mean, they should AT LEAST find some1 that actually has a clue about the issue before accepting it as truth…

  • tammy Whiddle

    Absolutely no surprise there at all now is there? I mean seriously

    post-anonymously.at.tc

  • Sam

    Bitsnoop has 5,622,245 torrents indexed, and 13.34 million hashes in it’s servers. I laughed when I saw the one million figure.

  • lulz

    When following ZDNet’s stuff, this chick appears to be the first journalist to pick it up? Wondering if they were paid off with the Ballarat (Ball-a-rat’s, rofl) idiots that did the study?

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  • I would like to see #45 “admit” to file sharing illegal files to someone other than a comments section where people actually care about what may happen to you, and under an actual name.

    Don’t claim to be a “big enough man” if you’re still hiding behind anonymity.

  • Daniel

    The seeds the report refers to is actually number of completed downloads.

    You can see this by comparing the “Current Seeders” in the top 100 list from the report to the “times completed” count on a site like Demonoid.

    eg:

    The Incredible Hulk[2008]DvDrip-aXXo 1112628 / 1141320
    Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull[2008]-aXXo 1029695 / 1058942
    College[2008]DvDrip-aXXo 509576 / 515348

    The difference is just between when the sample was taken on April 21st and now.

    The people behind it (Robert Layton and Paul Watter) are real:

    http://web.ballarat.edu.au/ard/itms/research/researchStudents.shtml
    http://ballarat.edu.au/ard/itms/staff/pwatters.shtml

    The whole report is flawed because of failure to understand what they’re researching! Extremely incompetent for someone part of a “Internet Commerce Security Laboratory”

    I hope this is the end of their academic careers. Fail.

  • Preternature

    All these wastrels taking government funds and using it to back up corporate conglomerates that steal from and rape their customers year after year.

    Movies are still making hundreds of millions of dollars. if their revenue is falling it is because the quality is terrible and people want to do other things (facebook, watch youtube videos) etc.

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  • AnarchyNow

    They claim more 100 million “pirates” and they want their “copyrights” to be protected against all these people?
    Making suck a big number wasn’t a good idea, even stupid people can do the math: 100 millions against a bunch of useless greedy corporate morons, it’s a lot, even at 10 or 20 millions, it’s still a lot more than the copyright-lobby.
    Stupid inefficient brainwashers.

  • anonymous

    @#66
    unfortunately, rather than end their careers, this useless load of lies called a report will boost them. why? because they have given a totally one-sided view, based on bullshit from the industries and done for the industries. the people this is aimed at (eg Joe Bidden) are the very ones that will be sent a copy to ensure that they also give one-sided opinions favouring the same industries and can use it to help prepare new laws to screw the public even further!

  • Drake3

    @50 Anonymous:

    “Ridiculing your opponent does nothing in the “grown up” world.”

    Grown up you say? Browse the internet a while longer and then say that again with a straight face.

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  • HateTheHaters

    So, they peddle out a statistic as to what % are illegal?

    In Spain, nearly 100% of the torrents are legal, why’s nobody reporting that statistic? – Oh yeah, because it highlights that America’s laws and governance are controlled by a corporotocracy, not for the people by the people.

    And even if 99.7% of torrents are copyright-infringing… that still doesn’t prove even $1 has actually been lost.

  • HateTheHaters

    @65 … for what it’s worth, even posting anonymously online is braver than being a faceless, unaccountable corporation.

    btw… to those of you in the UK, a small excerpt of a larger product can LEGALLY be copied thanks to fair use exemptions.

    If you are caught sharing 1MB of a 250MB file, the evidence obtained (distribution of 0.4% of a product) should not exceed what is allowed under fair use exemptions.

    Therefore, pushing the case with such minimalist evidence would be tantamount to wasting the court’s time.

    Peace!!

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  • Jeff

    To paraphrase Mark Twain:

    “There are lies, there are damned lies, then there are MAFIAA piracy statistics.”

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  • duane

    @74 HateTheHaters

    We DON’T HAVE fair use in the UK!! :(

  • DERP

    @45

    What a fucking joke.
    I don’t know what kind of laws they’ve pushed on you now, but piracy for personal use (not making any profit whatsoever) shouldn’t be illegal at all. Luckly, my country still thinks this way.

    Nobody is denying anything, it’s just a warning to people that believe in this kind of crap, which can have an impact on politics making even more retarded laws and people approving them.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, we are about 15 years too late to expect a mainstream news site to “fact check”. They print press releases these days didn’t you know? Anyway, this “study” is much the same as a lot of other “special interest” research going on these days. If you don’t produce a result that is beneficial to your grant provider, you won’t get the grant next time. Is this really such a surprise to people? No one can say that Bittorrent isn’t used to massively infringe on copyright, but by that same rationale, Big Media would like to confiscate “infringers” PCs, ban them from using the internet and enslave the next 3 generations of the persons family to pay back their imagined losses. And then they wonder why more and more people do not empathize with their plight.

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  • Anonymous

    “Not surprised tbh, hiring researchers with no prior experience or that are biased to the dying copyright movement will make failures and/or provide false data.”

    The corporate parasites just like the politics piece of crap and master of BS are use to pull fake stat out of their ass. Why do they need statisticians to get the fake results they want?

    Just make up some Dr Paul Watters who do not even exist from universites that do not even exist either and ask the janitors to make scientific noise while we make the real statistic:

    Percentage of corporate parasites still at work: 0%

    Percentage of corporation of parasites still in business: 0%

    Percentage of executives parasites who had an accident on the job. . .

    And so forth and so on.

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  • Anonymous

    @45 the troll.

    Yes “”bittorrent”" is an “”excellant”" way to share files, legal or not. Yes it is “”encoraged”" that more people use it as a distribution method.

    Oui, bitttorrrent is excellant, reely reely excellant and Peuple are encore age to use bite torrent that can pisse a lot more than your little music executive winny from Vivendique Univers Sale.

    Do you want more camembert!

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  • Anonymous

    ADD:

    Wanted, Veterinary inspected music and/or movie executives to be use as meat for my Dobermans.

    They are HUNGRY!

  • dude

    Not sure why my comment was not posted before, but I will reiterate myself.

    @34 vintage
    “usually companies like Ars Technica and ZDNet are paied to publish thing like these. and usually they are own by the very people that want to put out error for the people to serve their purpose.” I agree which is why I don’t read those sites. I avoid OSNews aswell. The problem with slashdot is there are just too many trolls and elitism there.

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  • Aussie

    Here’s a link to the story on an Aussie website – bit closer to the source.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/bittorrent-home-to-illegal-software-study/story-e6frgakx-1225896185591

    Note the first paragraph. First, the study was funded by the movie industry, hence there is immediate bias. Second, note the conclusion – 89.9% illegal, 8.2% porn so probably illegal anyway…

    Timing of this is NOT co-incidental. Not with the appeal against iiNet scheduled for next month. For such a “damning” report to come out now can only be used to further the AFACT case. Otherwise this would have been out a long time ago.

    I just hope iiNet reads pages like this and gets an alternate perspective (read: accuracy) they can use.

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    Ballarat’s BitTorrent study “horribly wrong” says TorrentFreak
    http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/354460/ballarat_bittorrent_study_horribly_wrong_says_torrentfreak/

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  • DRuNKeN MaSTeR

    One of Hungary’s biggest news site also took the bait: http://index.hu/tech/net/2010/07/25/a_bittorrent_forgalmanak_99_7_szazaleka_illegalis/

    (Although, they mostly translate from other sites, like TorrentFreak and Engadget.)

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  • Kirkpad

    Now that I think about it, I didn’t download any of those movies in the top ten. I rented some of them, because I know that blu-ray quality is better than rip quality.

    However if I did not have an affordable rental solution, I would surely have gotten 8 out of 10 those movies illegally.

  • Dave

    Exactly what qualifies you to claim that the study is wrong besides your own bias?

    Are you a trained researcher or mathematician who is qualified to do statistical and numerical analysis of data?

    Or, did you just read it and decide it was wrong because you didn’t like what you read?

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  • Anonymous

    afact sucks ass. its more like alie…

  • legit

    I’m a big fan of TorrentFreak, but this informal writing style will get you nowhere even if you’re right. If you expect people to cite this post as a legitimate rebuttal to this study, any objective judge will prefer the study if for no other reason than its more formal tone. TorrentFreak is a biased blog, and it reads like one. That means any reader who is not similarly biased will be likely to disregard even legitimate points it makes. Please sound academic if you want to be considered academic.

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  • 2bits

    Ok so this report was trash. I have to have something to hand to my boss to counter it. Is there good study to hand him? Anyone have a link?

  • Anonymous

    “Exactly what qualifies you to claim that the study is wrong besides your own bias?”

    How about the data he listed that wildly contradicts the study?

    “Are you a trained researcher or mathematician who is qualified to do statistical and numerical analysis of data?”

    If you read the second update you would know the answer to that is “yes”.

    “Or, did you just read it and decide it was wrong because you didn’t like what you read?”

    Chuckle. That’s clearly how you do things, but reasonable rational people don’t.

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  • Anonymous

    ZDNet’s respected? Since when?

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